Re: [SLUG] Accounting and business software
There's also a newish one available online which is free for up to 20 transactions per month: http://www.saasu.com/ Jon. On 22/09/10 12:13, elliott-brennan wrote: Hi all, I haven't written back to everyone individually just yet, but wanted to send a general 'Thanks' first to everyone for the suggestions I've received. I'm just checking them out at the moment to see what they're like. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 17:18:46 pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > In either case, start by forcing yourself to use the command > line tools, not the GUIs, because: > 1. The command line is more similar across distros than the GUIs > are (with a few exceptions). > 2. When you're trying to administer a machine on the other side > of the planet, the command line is all you have. (or even when > doing something to a machine in a locked room down the hall!) > 3. you'll end up understanding more of what's going on. +1 on learning the command line. The original question was being asked in the context of servers, which I assume is because the poster wants to do this for career purposes. When I used to interview potential sysadmins (before I was tempted by the dark side and became a lawyer), all the technical questions I asked during the interview were about the command line and standard configuration files (as in standard across not just Linux systems but other Unix and Unix-like systems). In my experience, the sysadmins who know these things can deal with pretty much anything they need to (and can figure out the rest in no time flat). On the other hand, sysadmins who only know the GUI will be stuck as soon as anything goes wrong. -- Regards, Troy Rollo Solicitor Parry Carroll Commercial Lawyers Direct: (02) 8257 3177 Fax: (02) 9221 1375 Switch: (02) 9221 3899 E-mail: t...@parrycarroll.com.au Web: www.parrycarroll.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation This message and any attachments are confidential to Parry Carroll. If you have received it my mistake, please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. You must not copy the message, alter it or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] enabling snmp on NIC ?
On Mon, September 20, 2010 7:48 pm, Martin Visser wrote: > I think the latest releases of Net-SNMP have been tightened up security > wise. By default on Ubuntu, SNMP access is limit to the system description > information. I suspect the same problem is occuring to you on Centos. > In the line below from /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf to enable read-only access to > all of the available SNMP MIB objects compiled in, you need to change > associated security name for the "public" community from "paranoid" to > "read-only", which is what I have done here, by commenting the line with > "paranoid" and uncommenting "readonly":- Martin thanks, unfortunately... I can't access the system as, through sheer own stupidity I've fried the mainbboard, and, system is down. hopefully the hard disk should be OK, just need to find another RAAD system to try it (RAAD Random Array of Abandoned Devices) (it has to be dumbest of dumb ideas, making a makeshift connection to replacement CPU fan...) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Learning Linux
my 2c. my recommendation is just to pick a popular distro and focus on configuring services and applications. you should also endeavor to avoid leaning on gui tools and wizards to configure things. 'learning' all the different distributions is pretty much pointless. mastering what they have in common is far more important than mastering their differences - as you can pick up the differences in no time if youve got a solid foundation. what they have in common being those services and applications so perhaps set yourself or have someone set you some scenarios you should master. i also wouldnt lean too hard on vms to create a lab. linux runs on just about anything which provides more opportunity for learning via breakage. some examples might include... - configure dhcp server with dns and samba, connect windows machines effectively to that network - configure squid and NAT for a local network - configure apache with several virtualhosts, mysql and postgresql with different php applications in different virtualhosts (a range of forum softwares for example) there are also lots of study guides for RHCE and similar. try all the labs and challenges they present. also, if you really want to learn linux you need to take a page out of cortez's book by burning your ships and committing to the new world. by that i mean format your computers (back up your data sure) and only run linux. there is absolutely no substitute for full immersion. Dean On 22/09/10 17:26, Richard Ibbotson wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2010 07:53:01 Lee Isaacson wrote: Oh... just about any... http://distrowatch.com/ But, just about any version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Fedora or openSuSE is easy to install and use. Easier than winduhs. You just need to make sure you have enough RAM in your machine. A good graphics card also helps. I like to use Nvidia. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 05:27:07PM +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: > > On 22/09/2010, at 4:53 PM, Lee Isaacson wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > What would be the best Distro to learn linux. > > > > Fedora or Ubuntu. > > yes. Agreed, the more the merrier. Start with Ubuntu or Fedora; they're fine if you want something moderately stable yet up to date. Then start running other distros in VMs or by double,triple, ... booting. Run Centos to get a feel for Redhat which is I think the most popular 'enterprise' linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
On 22/09/2010, at 4:53 PM, Lee Isaacson wrote: > Hi all, > > What would be the best Distro to learn linux. > > Fedora or Ubuntu. yes. Take your time and learn both. I take it you're looking to get experience for work? Both are handy to know. If you have, say, a gig+ of ram, you can install virtual machines of centos for playing on, get bored with it, delete it and install debian, etc. If you have $20/month to spend, you could get a vps from linode which you can play with email and web servers. But of course you can do all that from home without spending money, but if you have a dynamic ip it's not going to be the same experience as an internet connected vps. -- http://chesterton.id.au/blog/ http://barrang.com.au/linux/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Learning Linux
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 07:53:01 Lee Isaacson wrote: Oh... just about any... http://distrowatch.com/ But, just about any version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Fedora or openSuSE is easy to install and use. Easier than winduhs. You just need to make sure you have enough RAM in your machine. A good graphics card also helps. I like to use Nvidia. -- Richard http://www.sheflug.org.uk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
> "Aníbal" == Aníbal Monsalve Salazar writes: Aníbal> Isaacson wrote: >> What would be the best Distro to learn linux. Aníbal> Debian, of course. Linux itself (the kernel) is pretty much the same whatever distro you use. Userspace is mostly the same too --- there are bigger differences based on whether you choose KDE or Gnome than whether it's Redhat or Debian. The place where things change distro wise is in system administration. And even there there are lots of commonalities. I'd suggest starting with Debian or Ubuntu, working with that for a while until you're used to the basics, then switching to Suse or RedHat. In either case, start by forcing yourself to use the command line tools, not the GUIs, because: 1. The command line is more similar across distros than the GUIs are (with a few exceptions). 2. When you're trying to administer a machine on the other side of the planet, the command line is all you have. (or even when doing something to a machine in a locked room down the hall!) 3. you'll end up understanding more of what's going on. After you've worked with both for a while, try some of the others --- Gentoo, or Linux from Scratch, or Slackware... There are lots and lots. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:53:01AM +0200, Lee Isaacson wrote: >What would be the best Distro to learn linux. Debian, of course. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Learning Linux
A nice way of learning Linux is going over to LFS and setting up your own system; http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ As a primary system you'd want to be using as your main desktop in a Windows replacement context, you'll get more support from Ubuntu, but I can't fault either Ubuntu or Fedora. It's really a personal choice. Personally? go with Archlinux any day. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Lee Isaacson wrote: > Hi all, > > What would be the best Distro to learn linux. > > Fedora or Ubuntu. > > I am thinking Fedora because most servers run red hat but then there > is more information available for Ubuntu, > > I know some people may say CentOS but there the packages are not up to > date and I will be using the distro as my primary OS to learn linux. > > I have done an LPI course. > > Please advise > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
