[SLUG] Nouveau Firmware and Driver setup.
Last night at SLUG, Graeme was asking about a Nouveau error he was having. We discussed about firmware for Nouveau and it did appears to have some on one of my machines, maybe just used in early nouveau development? Wed Apr 30 21:18:41 2014 sys-firmware/nouveau-firmware-325.15 I now just use: Thu Feb 19 17:47:33 2015 x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau- which you can see is a Beta(unstable) install by the suffix. (this is a gentoo thing.) more info can be found here: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/VideoAcceleration/ I am happy with the results on my single head media box: localhost ~ # dmesg |grep -i nouv [0.899366] nouveau [ DEVICE][:02:00.0] BOOT0 : 0x0c8080a1 [0.899465] nouveau [ DEVICE][:02:00.0] Chipset: GF110 (NVC8) [0.899590] nouveau [ DEVICE][:02:00.0] Family : NVC0 [0.899698] nouveau [ VBIOS][:02:00.0] checking PRAMIN for image... [0.996419] nouveau [ VBIOS][:02:00.0] ... appears to be valid [0.996523] nouveau [ VBIOS][:02:00.0] using image from PRAMIN [0.996744] nouveau [ VBIOS][:02:00.0] BIT signature found [0.996843] nouveau [ VBIOS][:02:00.0] version 70.10.17.00.03 [1.019321] nouveau :02:00.0: irq 24 for MSI/MSI-X [1.019328] nouveau [ PMC][:02:00.0] MSI interrupts enabled [1.019459] nouveau [ PFB][:02:00.0] RAM type: GDDR5 [1.019561] nouveau [ PFB][:02:00.0] RAM size: 1280 MiB [1.019658] nouveau [ PFB][:02:00.0]ZCOMP: 0 tags [1.021221] nouveau [VOLT][:02:00.0] GPU voltage: 913000uv [1.050574] nouveau [ PTHERM][:02:00.0] FAN control: PWM [1.050682] nouveau [ PTHERM][:02:00.0] fan management: automatic [1.050800] nouveau [ PTHERM][:02:00.0] internal sensor: yes [1.070950] nouveau [ CLK][:02:00.0] 03: core 50 MHz memory 135 MHz [1.071054] nouveau [ CLK][:02:00.0] 07: core 405 MHz memory 324 MHz [1.071193] nouveau [ CLK][:02:00.0] 0f: core 732 MHz memory 1900 MHz [1.071411] nouveau [ CLK][:02:00.0] --: core 50 MHz memory 135 MHz [1.074156] nouveau [ DRM] VRAM: 1280 MiB [1.074252] nouveau [ DRM] GART: 1048576 MiB [1.074344] nouveau [ DRM] TMDS table version 2.0 [1.074437] nouveau [ DRM] DCB version 4.0 [1.074534] nouveau [ DRM] DCB outp 00: 02000300 [1.074630] nouveau [ DRM] DCB outp 01: 01000302 00020030 [1.074726] nouveau [ DRM] DCB outp 02: 04011380 [1.074822] nouveau [ DRM] DCB outp 03: 08011382 00020030 [1.074919] nouveau [ DRM] DCB outp 04: 02022362 00020010 [1.075015] nouveau [ DRM] DCB conn 00: 1030 [1.075141] nouveau [ DRM] DCB conn 01: 00010130 [1.075267] nouveau [ DRM] DCB conn 02: 2261 [1.080162] nouveau [ DRM] MM: using COPY0 for buffer copies [1.328603] nouveau [ DRM] allocated 1920x1080 fb: 0x6, bo 8800df8d9800 [1.328822] fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device [1.417990] nouveau :02:00.0: fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device [1.418017] nouveau :02:00.0: registered panic notifier [1.422560] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.2.1 20120801 for :02:00.0 on minor 0 cut from : cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep -i nouv ... [36.875] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [36.875] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: nouveau [36.875] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nouveau [36.892] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Backing store enabled [36.892] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Silken mouse enabled [36.892] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [XvMC] Associated with Nouveau GeForce 8/9 Textured Video. [36.892] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized. [36.892] (==) NOUVEAU(0): DPMS enabled [36.892] (II) NOUVEAU(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. [37.364] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized nouveau [37.367] (II) NOUVEAU(0): NVEnterVT is called. . My recommendation is to use the unstable drivers but yeah, be careful. Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] 32bit code on 64bit microprocessors and CFLAGS
After my talk on Friday a few people were discussing how 32 bit code can actually run slower on 64 bit uProcessors. (compared to a 32 bit uProcessor) We discussed this is true but thankfully the linux community is working on this problem with the x32 ABI (Application Binary Interface): https://sites.google.com/site/x32abi/ http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/12/24/2025228/linux-x32-abi-not-catching-wind The speed gains appear only slight and it does create a few overheads, well... and a new ABI to look after. remember this coming from me, a guy that is experimental with CFLAGS (compile flags) for just a few % Speaking of CFLAGS , another person asked me what I was running for them on my Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3120M Laptop? : CFLAGS=-march=corei7 -ftree-vectorize -funroll-all-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays --param prefetch-latency=300 -O3 -fno-tree-pre -minline-all-stringops -pipe -mtune=corei7 (don't try these at home kids! Use them on the biggest mainframe you can find!) Oddly I am finding faster performance switching the AVX functions off with -march=corei7, they are supposedly enabled in my kernel: [0.724241] sha1_ssse3: Using AVX optimized SHA-1 implementation [0.724303] sha256_ssse3: Using AVX optimized SHA-256 implementation [0.724364] sha512_ssse3: Using AVX optimized SHA-512 implementation ..and test programs such as nbench are being compiled with 493 AVX instructions used when -march=corei7-avx or -march=core-avx-i is being used . Perhaps we need some sort of avx64 ABI to improve 128,256 and 512 bit AVX performance in later uProc's?doh let's just nest the ABI's Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] talks for Friday.
Hi, There are a couple of things I could talk about: 1:) Hostapd and getting it running under systemd. 2:) GCC and how it appears more efficient over the years. Let me know which one you prefer by late 22/07/14 ? regards Brett Coady On 20/07/14 12:00, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: Send slug mailing list submissions to slug@slug.org.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slug-requ...@slug.org.au You can reach the person managing the list at slug-ow...@slug.org.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of slug digest... Today's Topics: 1. A call to arms! (Ji?? Baum) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian Linux Release.
Debian Linux Release. This sounds like a good talk for Friday Week ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx the only Debian page I use on Gentoo systems. Brett Coady From: slug-requ...@slug.org.au slug-requ...@slug.org.au To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 12:00 PM Subject: slug Digest, Vol 91, Issue 4 - Forwarded Message - Send slug mailing list submissions to slug@slug.org.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to slug-requ...@slug.org.au You can reach the person managing the list at slug-ow...@slug.org.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of slug digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian! (Martin Visser) The announcements posts are always nostalgic (From https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.os.linux.development/Md3Modzg5TU/xty88y5OLaMJ ) :- Fellow Linuxers, This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release, which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release. This is a release that I have put together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn't simply make some changes to SLS and call it a new release. I was inspired to put together this release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it, and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start from scratch. The base system is now virtually complete (though I'm still looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for everything), and I'd like to get some feedback before I add the fancy stuff. Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several more weeks; however, I thought I'd post now to perhaps draw a few people out of the woodwork. Specifically, I'm looking for: 1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the release to their anonymous ftp-site. Please contact me. Be warned that it will be rather large :) 2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community. This is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or anything you'd like to see part of the final release. Don't assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be included in the Debian release! Things like ls and cat are a given, but if there's anything that's in SLS that you couldn't live without please let me know! I'd also like suggestions for specific features for the release. For example, a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn't have to babysit the installation. Suggestions along that line are also welcomed. What will make this release better than SLS? This: 1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer. No more multiple binaries and manpages. 2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything. The system will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in the base system which will allow complete integration of upgrade packages. 3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine install the release while you do more interesting things. 4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig. 5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven system administration. 6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the Internet. Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with SLS. Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system. They will also have the option of selecting from a huge library of additional packages that will not be included in the base system. This library will contain packages like the S3 X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I can ftp but non-netters cannot access. 7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few READMEs). 8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of where I got
[SLUG] Interviews from FOSDEM
Hi Sluggers, The recent FOSDEM has some interesting 'lightning interviews' on their website: http://fosdem.org/2011/interviews Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re:[SLUG] USB wifi N adapter? With benchmarks?
I cannot speak for USB with N wifi but do run an ath9k PCI card as a Hostap server with N speeds, although not 5 GHz. It runs fine as WPA2 CCMP. It is getting more features as it matures.(I have run this setup for 2 years now) I also have an Intel 4965AGN mini PCI card in a netbook that only works to 150 Mbps(be careful of this some cards only do 150 not 300), it has worked well on 5 GHz at Google cannot remember the exact speed, sorry. On a Ralink RT2860 I have seen 90 Mbps iperf through concrete to the ath9k 2.4 GHz Access Point I mentioned above on Ralinks own proprietary drivers. Last time I tried with the rt2x00 or Testing drivers I had issues. A good starting point might be : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers good luck Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB wifi N adapter? With benchmarks?
Hey, just wondering if anyone here can recommend a USB wifi for use with Ubuntu Lucid that can do 802.11n and can sustain a decent transfer speed? I am having lots of trouble finding a stable N adapter that actually works at 5.4Ghz. Hi, I have a D-Link DWA110, which has some kind of RaLink chipset. It does not support n mode, only b and g. Prior to this I was using TP-Link TL-WN821N, Atheros AR9001v2 chipset I believe. It lost the connection all the time (even though there was no problem with the strength of signal from the router), it was very annoying to use, and required unplugging and replugging to reconnect to net. From my experience with these 2 deveices, and from what I have seen on the net, I would say try something with a RaLink chipset over Atheros. My guess is, if so many people are working on the Atheros drivers, it is because they suck so badly. Cheers, Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] proprietory drivers from NVIDIA
How do I install the proprietory drivers from the NVIDIA web-site on Fedora 14? Regards, Lee Isaacson -- Hi Lee, The Fedora and Red Hat people recommend you use their package rather than install drivers from Nvidia website (less likely to go haywire when you update your kernel later on). See: http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Flashplayer
On 19/10/10 17:20, Malcolm Johnston wrote: Hi I've copied the new libflashplayer.so to its plugin directory, but something is not working. I get a message that I need to download a new flashplayer from Adobe, but that's what I've done. Restoring the older *.so gets me back to par, so no damage has been done; it seems, however, that I must be missing something. snip Cheers, Malcolm Johnston Another long shot is assuming you copied and pasted libflashplayer.so with a mouse: once you have pasted it you need to click in the folder to deselect the icon, before closing and re-opening firefox. If libflashplayer.so is still highlighted it will not be detected. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Flashplayer 10
So, once again, do I just copy the new ``libflashplayer.so'' to the plugin site in mozilla, change the permissions to root, and 0755, or am I missing out something? Will I wreck my browser's flashplay ability or something equally unthinkable? Hi, Yes just replace the libflashplayer.so with the new version. You should not need to change permissions. On newer versions of Firefox you can put in folder /home/username/.mozilla/plugins (create plugins folder if it does not exist) and it will work once you restart Firefox. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Subject: [SLUG] change to linux and google chrome
I am new to slug, can you do the following, I have a note book with XP, can I remove microsoft and change to linux and use google chrome as the browser You might like to check out SW Iron instead of Chrome, it is the same thing but without the many Google tracking devices built-in: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] change to linux and google chrome
From: Bob Peterson bbbpeter...@gmail.com To: s...@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] change to linux and google chrome I am new to slug, can you do the following, I have a note book with XP, can I remove microsoft and change to linux and use google chrome as the browser, if so, how would I get information to do so. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Disappearing title bar
Subject: [SLUG] Disappearing Title Bar -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The title bar on the windows that open within gnome sometimes go away. This is a random sort of happening. I may be using the system fine for an hour or so and then the next window I open has no title bar and when I look at the other open windows I find that their title bars have disappeared also. The only way they come back is by rebooting. Is this a bug in gnome? System: Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM OS: Ubuntu 10.04 with Gnome 2.30.2 I am using 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 (mine came with Gnome 2.30.0, which I did not upgrade) and the title bars have never disappeared. I do not use desktop effects, though. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] watching Channel Ten videos on Linux?
| I'd like to send a link to an episode of Good News Week to a friend | and I think I found it | with either Chromium 6.0.472.53 or Firefox 3.6.3. | Is there a way to view this on Linux? I just get the digest version of this list (in case this question is already answered). This plays fine on for me with Flash (I have installed the flash plugin in ~/.mozilla/pluginsdownloaded from Adobe). Also if you use Mozilla you can install the plugin video downloadhelper. It will show 3 spinning balls on your toolbar everytime there is downloadable media on a webpage. You can click on the icon and download the episode, it should play with vlc or xine. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: fedora 13 qemu guest (Peter Miller) (Daniel Pittman)
That sounds suspiciously like you are either running fully emulated (eg: no KVM support) on Slackware, or that you don't have virtio on that platform. It would be interesting, to me, to know if either of those guesses were true, because I have a current need to improve my skills diagnosing KVM performance issues and feedback helps with that. :) I only thought it was that because I could not think what else it could be. In the next few weeks I hope to have some time to investigate further, and will let you know. Is the backing store for the virtual machine also on the USB disk? If so it would point a finger toward guest I/O performance is the pain point, and the introduction of USB would just be making a painful service slower. In all cases the virtual hard drive was on an (real) external usb drive (not the same one as the host OS was sometimes on). So I don't think the guest I/O is the culprit. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] fedora 13 qemu guest (Peter Miller)
I'm trying to use qemu to host a Fedora 13 guest. On that note, be aware there are vast differences in the speed of applications running on qemu virtual machines, depending on the host system. Eg, BOINC on Debian or Suse running inside a virtual machine, with an Ubuntu 10.04 host is about 10 times faster than on Slackware 13 host (MIPS measured by BOINC software). I am guessing this is due to Ubuntu kernel being built with kernel same page merging, and Slackware without, but am not sure. Also inexplicably, having the host OS boot from an external usb hard drive causes major drop in the speed of the virtual machine, far beyond what would be caused by disk access times. I am not sure why this happens. Brett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 55, Issue 10
The National Press Club addresses are also on ABC24 news channel at the same time, 1pm today. Brett. The Australian Computer Society has organised an 2010 Federal Election Forum at the National Press Club in Canberra, from 1 to 2pm AEST, 10 August 2010. This will be live on Sky News and YouTube. You can comment via the ACS Blog, or Twitter using the tag #ITElectionForum. The forum will feature Senator Stephen Conroy, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (Labour Party), Tony Smith MP, Shadow Minister (Liberal Party) and Senator Scott Ludlam (Greens ICT spokesperson). Issues to be discussed include the Digital Economy, High Speed Broadband, Professional certification, ICT Skills, and no doubt Internet censorship. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Serial write problem
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On Saturday 22 May 2010 20:46:49 Jim Donovan wrote:
I have been working with a single-board computer (TS-7250, using the
built-in linux) which, about three times per second, sends 8-byte messages
out through COM2 to another device. Very occasionally (it can go 20 hours
without failing) a message doesn't all get transmitted. Only 7 of the
eight bytes get sent. On these occasions, the status returned by write(2)
is Resource temporarily unavailable.
It seems reasonable to try another write(2) to transmit the eighth byte.
However, it crashes without returning. We tried with COM1 and the same
thing happened. This is illogical - we are not using handshaking and the
UART has no way of knowing what is going on at the other end of the line
This may be quite logical if the UART's FIFO or Buffer get flooded and it is
returning a message back to the CPU.
You don't tell us what Baud rate your running at either ?
or even whether there is anything there. I have dumped termios and the
control registers immediately before the crash; no corruption or other
abnormality is evident.
Before I try a different linux (cut-down debian Potato is available), does
anyone have any simpler suggestions?
Tried changing Baud rates ?
Thanks,
Jim Donovan
regards
Brett Coady
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Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM
From: Tony Sceats tony.sce...@gmail.com To: slug@slug.org.au Slower, though ... is a bit of a strange claim. Not because it is false, but because the answer is complex: you can, for example, double read speed and halve write speed, using a two disk RAID 1 array ... in the ideal case. I must say I'm curious about this, because I have always assumed that for a RAID 1 the write speed would be roughly the same as a single disk, not halved.. my reasoning being that both writes would occur in parallel, as with the reads.. the difference of course is that the 2 reads in parallel each transfer half the data, but the 2 writes transfers all the data each sure, you may have a little bit of overhead - issuing 2 IO instructions instead of 1, or in the case of a setup where both disks share the same bus (which is not the ideal setup) there would be contention on this bus, but halved? Is it really the case? If this is true, I guess the reason would be that the same data travels over the same bus twice before the operation can be said to be completed, therefore halving your write speed. But then this holds true for the read as well, so that despite issuing an instruction to 2 different disks, each with half the data requested, then you will meet the same contention and the data will get to you with the same speed as 1 disk.. so, if this is right, then RAID 1 compared to a single disk would be something like 1. 2 disks on 2 buses = (approx) half read time, same write time 2. 2 disks on 1 bus = (approx) same read time, double write time I honestly don't know if this is the case or not, I've certaintly never measured it and it may be implementation specific, but if not I'd really like to be shown where this is wrong.. I am inclined to think for raid1: 1. 2 disks on 2 buses = (approx) same read time, same write time 2. 2 disks on 1 bus = (approx) double read time, double write time and for raid0: 1. 2 disks on 2 buses = (approx) half read time, half write time 2. 2 disks on 1 bus = slightly better than same read time and write time The reason I state the above is that I did see a benchmark for one of those SIL680 PCI cards (Dual IDE Channel), most raid0 gain was having 2 individual drives on the individual IDE buss' They did put 4 IDE drive on 2 IDE buss and you got more gain but not as much as 2 drives on their own buss , all compared to 1 drive on one buss of course. I use a Kernel raid setup with 2 disks (Samsung 500GB), raid1 for /boot and raid0 for / and backup with dd to another drive every other week. This is just a desktop nothing too important, Raid 5 seems all the go from what I have read but I do not have the setup or time to look into it.. My raid1 /boot /dev/md1: Timing cached reads: 7612 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3810.62 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 244 MB in 3.01 seconds = 81.09 MB/sec 1 drive from the raid1 array above: /dev/sda1: Timing cached reads: 7490 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3749.14 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 248 MB in 3.02 seconds = 82.01 MB/sec My raid0 / /dev/md3: Timing cached reads: 7770 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3889.21 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 486 MB in 3.00 seconds = 161.79 MB/sec Some guy had a new WD drive and got 100MB/sec from a single drive so expect 200 MB/sec from 2 (Sata2) ... haven't seen a Sata3 drive yet. 1 drive from the raid0 md3 array above: /dev/sda3: Timing cached reads: 7612 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3810.57 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 256 MB in 3.01 seconds = 84.99 MB/sec These read-times were all done with: hdparm -tT /dev/(device) Anyone know a good non destructive write test for benchmarking HDD ? Hope this helps Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM
- Original Message From: Dave Kempe d...@sol1.com.au To: Brett Coady bc196...@yahoo.com.au Cc: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 8:10:00 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM - Brett Coady wrote: These read-times were all done with: hdparm -tT /dev/(device) Anyone know a good non destructive write test for benchmarking HDD ? Hope this helps Brett Bonnie++ is what we use. You can use IOzone if you like complex charts. hdparm isn't great for this sort of thing. The trouble with Bonnie and IOzone is that they test the filesystem , for my example I was looking at the raw disk speed for raid results. Also, back to the one of the other suggestions - don't use RAID5. If you only have 3 disks, use RAID1 and 1 hotspare. They don't make disks like they used to, and RAID5 and MTBF stats meant that the chance of having a failure during a rebuild is too high. RAID5 is dead to me. RAID10 if you have enough disks, or RAID1 when you don't. and use LVM. It makes for growing/shrinking/chopping much easier. You can't shrink XFS. Be careful shrinking ext3. http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/10/21/2126252.shtml and don't backup to tape. Buy lots of harddrives, and expect to buy more of them. Dave That's handy to know about RAID5, thanks There are 2 other things I can suggest. 1: I use those cheap Caddies you get from the markets and noticed upon installing 2 Hard Disk in 2 of them they vibrated as they are both parallel.(well they are cheap and I only use them for backup) Upon installing my 2 Disk for RAID without caddies, I staggered them so the center axis is offset (trying to destroy some inertial cavitation here). If you are real keen you may like to mount one of the drive upside down on the same axis counter-acting inertial vibrations. (Going a bit too far ? see below.) There was a RAID array with 20+ drives stacked one on top one another, and when turned on the system tipped over due to inertia. If you use Gentoo this is known as Larry the Cow Tipping and like normal Cow Tipping is frowned upon. (yes, I know in the BIOS they have staggered Drive start for some systems, Larry just tips slower). 2: I had an issue when setting up RAID that I always lost 1MB or 2 from one of the HDD, this concerned me and every time I repartitioned and rebooted I lost it again, the second drive was fine.? After giving up and leaving the last 2 MB on both drives untouched to keep them the same size I was happy. (sort of) I have since that learnt that some Motherboard backup the BIOS to the end HDD and have a setting to do so. My motherboard has no option for this and has dual BIOS anyway but it still appears to do it! Regards Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM
From: David Kempe d...@sol1.com.au To: Brett Coady bc196...@yahoo.com.au Cc: slug@slug.org.au slug@slug.org.au Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 12:20:43 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] RAID and LVM On 20/02/2010, at 11:53 AM, Brett Coady bc196...@yahoo.com.au wrote: The trouble with Bonnie and IOzone is that they test the filesystem , for my example I was looking at the raw disk speed for raid results. Well if you keep the kernel and filesystem identical between runs you end up benchmarking the hardware. Still useful for the purpose of comparision. That is true , however the original poster was asking about RAID and partitioning , He hadn't mention File-systems and that's is why I did the benchmarking the way I did to try and shed some light on Raid gains/loses and speed. I have since that learnt that some Motherboard backup the BIOS to the end HDD and have a setting to do so. My motherboard has no option for this and has dual BIOS anyway but it still appears to do it! The difference in drive size is not the dual bios at all. And leaving a buffer at the end of drives when using software raid is a good idea cos diffrences in drive geometry will always happen. Are you sure about this, I spent quite a bit of time trying to work out where my missing 1MB had gone? On initial Boot the Drives had exactly the same size on both. Also to try and test the problem I actually swapped the drives over and guess what, I lost 1 MB from the opposite drive! (yeah I checked the electronic serial numbers) Ahhh, Upon further investigation I find something interesting and I am not alone! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_protected_area An application called Sleuthkit tells me more. This is handy to know for someone setting RAID up, they even give examples on how to remove stubborn HPA regards Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Konqueror spits out 'malformed UR'L when accessing /home
Hi Elliot, So to confirm you want Konqueror to show your home directory on start ? Settings - Configure Konqueror - When Konqueror Starts : Show My Home Page Set your home page to ~ Tested as working on Kubuntu 9.x Konqueror version 4.2.2, no errors on start. Let me know if it helps :) There are perhaps some nicer and more convient ways to do what you want too, if you give us some background info. Brett (long time Kde user) -Original Message- From: slug-boun...@slug.org.au [mailto:slug-boun...@slug.org.au] On Behalf Of Martin Visser Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2009 8:30 AM To: slug; m...@elliott-brennan.id.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Konqueror spits out 'malformed UR'L when accessing /home Patrick, Not being a KDE or Konqueror user, I don't experience this (and Chromium, Firefox and Nautilus don't seem to have problems with the file protocol) But there seem to be a number of open bug reports that are related to your issue:- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192632 - Protocol not supported file https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202288 - Konqueror has crashed browsing filesystem, It might be worth submitting a new report if you can't find your a problem close to yours. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192632 Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM, elliott-brennan elliottbren...@gmail.comwrote: Erk! Nope. Doesn't work either. I changed the home page within Konqueror to file:///home/amanda and file:///home/amanda and file:///home/amanda/Documents and on start up, Konqueror still gives me the same error message. Once I'm in, it's okay (??) If my start up selection is my home page (well, Amanda's) it gives me the same error. If I use the 'introduction page' as the starting point, it starts without a problem BUT if I click on ANY file within the hierarchy shown in the navigation panel, the damn thing gives me the same error. It pops up twice. I okay it and then all is well. ??? Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: 2009/10/19 elliott-brennan m...@elliott-brennan.id.au: Hi all, I've recently installed Kubuntu Jaunty 9.04. Konqueror version 4.2.4 I changed the home page to /home/user.name and each time I tried to open Konqueror it would pop up a window stating: Malformed URL At a guess, you might need to specify a protocol, e.g. file:///home/username Sridhar -- Blog:http://youcantdothatinlinux.blogspot.com/ Blog:http://lugnuts.wftl-lug.org/pg/blog/Patrick Website: www.youcantdothatinlinux.com Registered GNU/Linux User 368634 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Hyperthreading
From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading): Intel claims up to a 30% speed improvement compared against an otherwise identical, non-simultaneous multithreadinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreadingPentium 4. The performance improvement seen is very application-dependent, however, and some programs actually slow down slightly when Hyper Threading Technology is turned on. This is due to the replay systemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replay_systemof the Pentium 4 tying up valuable execution resources, thereby starving the other thread. (The Pentium 4 Prescott core gained a replay queue, which reduces execution time needed for the replay system, but this is not enough to completely overcome the performance hit.) However, any performance degradation is unique to the Pentium 4 (due to various architectural nuances), and is not characteristic of simultaneous multithreadinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreadingin general. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an Intel Xeon 3 gig CPU and have hyperthreading turned on in the BIOS. I've been trying to work out what the advantages and disadvantages of this are. The CPU appears as two CPUs to the machine, which means that non-threaded apps don't appear to use the whole CPU. Is this a correct assumption? For example, using Devede to convert video, the transcode process only uses 50% of CPU in top. If I run another CPU-intensive process, the CPU usage in top goes close to 100%. So would I be correct in assuming that hyperthreading is useful for keeping the system responsive under load, but if running single-threaded CPU-intensive processes, it'll run faster without hyperthreading? This machine can actually take another CPU, but finding a suitable one and the matching fan and shroud (Dell) doesn't seem to be easy. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Just because you're on holiday, doesn't mean you're not a geek. http://engineer.openguides.org/ When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me. - Emo Philips -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Brett Morgan http://brett.morgan.googlepages.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Hyperthreading
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Brett Morgan wrote: From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading): Yeah I read that. It didn't answer my question 8) My reading of it is that your feeling that turning HT off for a single threaded process is probably going to be a win. Wanna test it and tell us what happens in reality? -- Brett Morgan http://brett.morgan.googlepages.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Python Meetup around the time of google's Sydney Developer Day?
Guys, Brett Slatkin, one of Google's engineers on the AppEngine project will be in Sydney for the Google Developer Day. He is interested in getting together with sydney based pythoneers on either the 16th of june, or the 17th of June. He is willing to host the meetup at Google's Sydney HQ. So, who is interested? brett -- Brett Morgan http://brett.morgan.googlepages.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone
As a Linux guy an iphone owner im confused as why you need to install linux on a iphone ? .. What are you trying to do, it already runs a BSD based deriviant, I have SSH, Samaba a console and everything else I need, I can install apache and any dev tools I need. What are you interested in doing ? chances are it does it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morgan Storey Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 9:07 AM To: James Dumay Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on Iphone I can see if it had 3.5g a decent camera, real gps and ran Linux I would go for it... But there are linux Phones coming out that are more open, or run Linux by default these are the better options. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, James Dumay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepan, As far as I am aware Linux cannot be run on the iPhone (Im not sure why you would want to either). James On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Deepan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am wondering if anyone has managed to install linux on iphone? I am aware of ipodlinux, for ipod. Not sure if someone has hacked into iphone. Openmoko is a nice alternative though. Regards Deepan Sudoku Solver: http://www.sudoku-solver.net/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey,A+, MCSE:Security. Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Panel session at CeBIT - Open Source underpins Aussie innovation
Folks, I know this has been discussed on the lists, but let me assert that there is nothing wanky about innovation. Innovation is critical to sustaining economic growth in any economy, and particularly ours as we move more and more towards knowledge and service industries to sustain our lifestyle. When the time comes for our economy to contract, as these things are want to do from time to time, innovation will play a fundamental role in underpinning the minimisation and recovery from such. I trust things are going well at CeBIT, and I'm looking forward to meeting a few on you down there on Thursday. Thanks, Brett Pia Waugh wrote: Hi all, There is going to be two panel sessions about Open Source at CeBIT. The first has Jon Oxer, Con Zymaris and David Perdue at 1pm on Wednesday the 10th. The second panel session is being run by Linux Australia about how Open Source underpins Aussie innovation. This is timed to be part of the Innovation Festival (http://www.ausinnovation.org/) and the event is registered as part of that event. We are basically getting some leading researchers, business people and a journalist to comment about why they think Open Source is so important to their work and to Australian organisations focused on innovating. Yes, the word innovation is wanky, but we are working with a theme here people! :) The panelists are: - Dr Silvia Pfeiffer, leading researcher and software developer CSIRO - Bruno Mattarollo, CTO Rising Sun Pictures - Gernot Heiser, leading researcher and software developer NICTA - Brett Hooker, Director Sauce Software - Professor James Dalziel, Chief Investigator Australian Open Source information service - Matt Overington, journo at BuilderAU Each panelist has 10 mins to talk about their thoughts, then we'll have open discussion till 4:30. The innovation OSS panel will be on Thursday the 11th from 3:00pm till 4:30pm at Stand P1 at the front of Hall 4. Feel free to visit us at the Linux Australia stand beforehand to say hi and join in the fun :) Both panel sessions are free and we hope that they help educate people about how important Open Source is in yet another way. By running such a panel at CeBIT we hope to get to a wide audience. If you have a boss, workmate or friend who you are trying to convince about Open Source, bring them along to this panel and they'll hopefully start to see that it isn't just you :) Links: http://www.ausinnovation.org/InnovationFestival/Events/Open+Source+underpins+Australian+innovations.htm http://www.cebit.com.au/main/events/viocorp/ Please pass on the information to any mailing lists or people you think might be interested :) Cheers, Pia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Two concurrent Gnome Desktops?
thats a neat feature i wasnt aware of ... anything similar for kde? regards, brett On Friday 04 February 2005 13:28, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jeff Waugh Applications System Tools New Login Applications System Tools New Login in a Nested Window Hopefully this functionality will be exposed in a much nicer way during the next GNOME development cycle. :-) It probably won't work this way in GNOME proper, but if your distro ships the user switching applet, or you're happy building it, you'll probably enjoy this: http://esco.mine.nu/category/code/fast-user-switching-applet/ - Jeff -- GUADEC 2005: Stuttgart, Germany http://2005.guadec.org/ Mr Hunt also admits he does not like the expression 'diddly squat', though he will not be ruling it to be unparliamentary. - ABC News Online -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Copying a CD to disk image
sounds like you're out of luck. as a last resort, you could try mounting the cd, copying recursivley the contents to a temporary directory then using mkisofs to make the iso. fwiw. i've only ever had this problem on burnt disks. they appear fine in some cd devices and have difficulties in others. regards, brett On Thursday 27 January 2005 08:57, Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, I've always been able to make a copy of a cd or floppy onto the hard disk by using dd. I.E dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myimage.iso I've been trying to do this with some FC3 cd's but after copying about 630Mb the process starts throwing messages up onto the console about bad block read's. This goes on for several minutes and trying to kill the dd process doesn't seem to work, though it eventually dies. When I mount the resulting .iso images with -o loop they appear ok and I can see all the directories and file names but if I try to copy an .rpm from the mounted file system it's no good. So obviously the cd's are dud right! BUT! I've just done an install of a working system from the very same CD's and even ran through the little check media utility at the start which said the CD's were OK. What give's? Pete P.S I've tried using dd's bs=512, 1024 and 2048 but the result is unchanged. -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Slow Wireless Speed (Peter Rundle)
Seriously? with .11b it was only slightly more than plugging the card in, compiling the module into the kernel and a little config in /etc/network/interfaces Ok it's not .11g but it all just works, Linux, Mac and Windows all happily residing on the network. On Friday 14 January 2005 11:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please give list, or me, a two-liner to say what you have done. I have spent months, and $1000s to get two linux boxes to talk to one-another wirelessly. This list offered 'go to Dick Smith and get a pile of cards' to try. I eventally got two ciso aironet 350 cards working beatifully, the only down side is that I need to do it 30 times, and the ciso cost $500 EACH. Thanks James -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: Optus cable problem?
if it's one of the motorola surfboards i had a similar thing happen about 6 months ago. my access speed would crap out. a powercycle would briefly resolve. then i was getting intermittant access before it finally died. On Friday 07 January 2005 17:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just been off the net with a suspected Cable modem failure (Optus, 26 hrs). But it's just spontaneously started working again. Anyone else here experienced the same thing, or was it really just me? luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] sshd config: tighten access ?
what do you use the machines for? if there are no services that require general access eg a web or mail server, you can use hosts.allow and hosts.deny to basically deny everything other than what is in the hosts.allow file. you could add some general C class block (or B class) to hosts.allow if you're really interested you can add a line like to hosts.deny ALL: ALL: spawn (/bin/echo -e %d %a %c %s from %h at `date` |/usr/bin/mail -s 'LOGIN ATTEMPT %h %a' [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which basically emails you a log each time someone tries to connect. the connections will always fail unless they are coming from an IP from within an IP or IP range specified in hosts.allow regards, brett On Thursday 30 December 2004 13:01, Voytek wrote: I just looked through some logs, and, see a lot of attempted access like: # grep illegal user secure Dec 29 10:10:11 koala sshd[20080]: input_userauth_request: illegal user jane Dec 29 10:10:14 koala sshd[20080]: Failed password for illegal user jane from 20 3.42.32.89 port 56720 ssh2 Dec 29 10:10:15 koala sshd[20083]: input_userauth_request: illegal user jane Dec 29 10:10:16 koala sshd[20085]: input_userauth_request: illegal user pamela Dec 29 10:10:18 koala sshd[20083]: Failed password for illegal user jane from 20 3.42.32.89 port 56825 ssh2 Dec 29 10:10:18 koala sshd[20085]: Failed password for illegal user pamela from 203.42.32.89 port 56842 ssh2 Dec 29 10:10:20 koala sshd[20088]: input_userauth_request: illegal user pamela Dec 29 10:10:22 koala sshd[20088]: Failed password for illegal user pamela from 203.42.32.89 port 56898 ssh2 Dec 29 22:52:18 koala sshd[944]: input_userauth_request: illegal user test Dec 29 22:52:21 koala sshd[944]: Failed password for illegal user test from 213. 149.114.51 port 59211 ssh2 Dec 30 10:48:10 koala sshd[30110]: input_userauth_request: illegal user test Dec 30 10:48:10 koala sshd[30109]: input_userauth_request: illegal user test Dec 30 10:48:14 koala sshd[30109]: Failed password for illegal user test from 64 .174.136.250 port 2399 ssh2 Dec 30 10:48:14 koala sshd[30110]: Failed password for illegal user test from 64 .174.136.250 port 2401 ssh2 Dec 30 10:48:22 koala sshd[30111]: input_userauth_request: illegal user guest Dec 30 10:48:24 koala sshd[30111]: Failed password for illegal user guest from 6 4.174.136.250 port 2433 ssh2 what should I do to increase security ? 99% of the time, I'm the sole user accessing via ssh, ocassionally, I temporarily allow someone else. 80% of the time, I ssh from a fixed IP, rest of the time, I ssh from several Aussie ISP dislups/adsl is it worthwile to scan logs and block these ips temporarily ? is it easy to add such IPs to my ipchains ? -- Voytek -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Generating a website map
linklint will do exactly what you want. it's an apt-get for debian, i dont know what the status is for other distros. regards, brett On Monday 22 November 2004 20:46, Ken Foskey wrote: I am currently revising http://udk.openoffice.org website to fix the wording spelling and formatting of the website. I am tripping over a lot of dead documents in the website so I want to start with a map and publish a list of all those documents not in the map for confirmation. So what do I need: Is there a way of identifying all pages that are not linked to? My thought was to start with a website map that shows what links to what and then graphviz this to show things that are orphans or branches that are orphans. Any suggestions on tools that extract links from websites, website is checked out on my hard disk so file based is fine. -- Ken Foskey OpenOffice.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ext3 to ext2?
you may be lucky and have only killed the journal. if this is the case probably changing the /etc/fstab entries to ext2 might solve your problem and let you boot. ymmv, b On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:55, William Chivers wrote: Hello all, Please don't ask why, but I put a Lindows sampler CD into my Mandrake 9.2 machine at home. You know these CDs: they allow you to look at the distro without touching your hard disk... Presented with a choice of sample or configure, I chose configure to try to take control of hardware detection. A couple of minutes later when I returned to the machine I found messages about converting /dev/hdb9 to ext2 etc. No warning, no dialogue box Do you really want to do this, or backup your data. Am I stuffed? Trying to re-boot into Mandrake failed with a Kernel panic - no init. As the /home directory is in its own partition, I tried to upgrade to Mandrake10 but again, this failed as the root partition was unreadable. So I installed Mandrake10 leaving the old /home partition alone. Booting into Mandrake10 there is nothing in the old /home partition. Most of the data on this partition is backed up on my trusty pentium II running a very minimal Debian stable ftp server, but not all. Sigh. Thanks, Bill Chivers BTW, I have been thinking of automating backup from the server end. Any thoughts on the script to do this (or existing software)? - William J. Chivers Lecturer in Information Technology School of DCIT Faculty of Science and Information Technology University of Newcastle---Ourimbah Campus PO Box 127, Ourimbah, NSW 2259 Australia phone: +61 2 4349 4473 fax: +61 2 4349 4565 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Evolution and sending mail
I could be understanding this incorrectly. but you're on the university network presently and are trying to send mail out through the mail server of your isp? if this is the case the isp will have relaying turned of on their mailservers effectively stopping anyone from outside of their network sending mail via their mail servers (unless they have have smtp authentication happening for instance). which is what is preventing you from sending mail. of course i could have completely misunderstood the situation you're trying to describe. regards, brett On Friday 19 November 2004 10:21, Denis Crowdy wrote: Hi all, Trying to set up my mail using evolution (debian unstable) - various reasons including work shifting to groupwise, and nice palm syncing for the address book. I read mail from an imap server and have my ISP's smtp server set as the outgoing server. When I send mail, however, I get blocked by the MAPS(?) service refused by blackhole site yada yada yada. Have contacted the support people there who point out that this is because my mail appears to come from a dynamic IP address, hence the blocking. Conclusion - it must be a setup problem on my box. I can send mail from mutt, and have set up exim (using dpkg-reconfigure exim) as option 2 (the dialup system) with the ISPs server as the outgoing mail machine. When I set up evolution at work, using the uni's outgoing mail server, I have no problem. Any ideas? Something stupid and simple I've missed I'm positive. Denis Crowdy -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mandrake non-usb scanner permissions woes
the scanner will be in /dev however by the interface the device is connected across. if it's on a parallel port it'll be /dev/lp0 or ./lp1 etc. you can create a scanner group, modify permissions/group on the device, and add the users you want to the group and you should be able to scan ok. regards, brett On Tuesday 16 November 2004 09:30, William Chivers wrote: Hello all, I hope that this email is the appropriate way to add a question to the discussion. If not, apologies for the unsolicited email. Has anyone managed to get a parallel port scanner (CanoScan N 340P) working with Mandrake 10.0? I used the Mandrake configuration tool to setup the scanner - it had the scanner model in its list - and according to the setup tool all went well. However, noone but the root user can use the scanner - no other user has the appropriate permissions. The scanner works well for the root user, by the way. Searching for this problem in Slug and elsewhere locates plenty of information about this problem and USB scanners, but nothing for parallel scanners. Should I locate the offending file and change its permissions? If so, what is the file? Searching file:/ for scanner did not find anything relevant. There is no scanner entry in /dev. Or should I somehow add users to the scaner group or vice-versa? I had this problem with Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 and just ran the scanner as root, thinking that Mandrake might eventually sort this out... Thanks, Bill Chivers - William J. Chivers Lecturer in Information Technology School of DCIT Faculty of Science and Information Technology University of Newcastle---Ourimbah Campus PO Box 127, Ourimbah, NSW 2259 Australia phone: +61 2 4349 4473 fax: +61 2 4349 4565 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Modifying GRUB to remove graphics
i think you are talking about editing menu.lst which is probably going to
reside someplace like /boot/grub/menu.lst
then you'll want to add a line like:
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
where splash.xpm.gz is the image you want to load, or alternatively comment
the line out if you want to get rid of the image, this just gives you a plain
text boot screen.
regards, brett
On Thursday 11 November 2004 09:05, DaZZa wrote:
Grub experts please. :-)
I've just installed SuSE 9.1 on my work desktop dual booting with XP
across two ATA drives.
Unfortunately, for some reason, LILO didn't like this configuration
{windows booting off drive 1, Linux booting of a partition on drive 2},
so I had to install GRUB instead.
I don't know how to edit GRUB's configuration files without breaking
anything, and I want to remove the damn fscking annoying blue screen
SuSE puts around VC1 - I believe it's done through GRUB, but I'm buggered
if I know how to get rid of it.
Can someone apply the cluestick, please?
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Modifying GRUB to remove graphics
no grub is smart enough to handle the changes, just reboot ... regards, brett On Thursday 11 November 2004 09:18, DaZZa wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Brett Fenton wrote: i think you are talking about editing menu.lst which is probably going to reside someplace like /boot/grub/menu.lst then you'll want to add a line like: splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz where splash.xpm.gz is the image you want to load, or alternatively comment the line out if you want to get rid of the image, this just gives you a plain text boot screen. Do you need to run grub to re-read the config file like you do LILO, or is GRUB smart enough to just read the config without it? DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Preventing attacks
i think a few hours is a stretch (on a p4 in any event) http://www.cryptography.com/resources/whitepapers/DES.html high end gear ... not really, but purpose built and using inadequacies in the standard to optimize the cryptanalysis routine regards, brett On Tuesday 09 November 2004 14:25, James Gregory wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:31:50PM +1100, Toliman wrote: and it is 'relatively' secure, in that it would hopefully take a p4 a few hours to brute force... more likely in minutes. How long is 'a few hours'? I didn't think things were that dire. Are you talking about a straight brute force or some kind of known-plaintext attack or what? James. -- Now, there are no problems only opportunities. However, this seemed to be an insurmountable opportunity. - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ide-scsi on vanilla 2.6.9
it depends on how you've built the kernel but scsi emulation is being depreciated and you should be able to burn directly to the ide device now. for example if you use cdrecord, you no longer have to use the lun's but can call the /dev/hd* directly. regards, brett On Sunday 07 November 2004 02:13, Vino Fernando Crescini wrote: Is there anybody using ide-scsi on a plain 2.6.9 kernel? eject -t (on /dev/sr0) doesn't seem to be working anymore. Vino Fernando Crescini Intelligent Systems Laboratory School of Computing IT University of Western Sydney Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 2 4736 0140 Web: http://www.cit.uws.edu.au/~jcrescin Scanned by SCIT E-Mail Gateway http://www.cit.uws.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to rename partitions
all you need to change is fstab as long as your are referencing the drive correctly then it should be fine. this is all i did when i cut over and it's no probs, in fact i still have old kernels in grub and to boot off one of them i simply edit fstab and go back. brett On Saturday 06 November 2004 20:58, Rod Butcher wrote: I've heard (but not confirmed) the latest 2.6 SATA drivers do live under /dev/sd* instead of /dev/hd*. You'll need to confirm the your kernel actually supports it. I'm talking about 2.6.8 and up - they default to libata which refers to SATA drives as SCSI and hence sda1 etc. so to load this kernel which wants sda*, on a system built for 2.6.7 i.e. hda*, what do I change apart from fstab ? I can bootup 2.6.10 compiled to inhibit libata, and it accepts hda* fine.. I'm using it as I speak... but this is deprecated. So.. to bootup 2.6.10 using (the recommended) libata, I believe the question is how do I rename my partitions to sda* ? Changing the grub files and fstab didn't work. I've asked this question before but still no luck. man fstab didn't help me.. I'll RTFM if I can find what FM to RT. cheers Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Keith Hopkins wrote: Rod Butcher wrote: Hello sluggers, if I want to change the name of a drive partition from say hda1 to sda1, what do I need to do in addition to updating /etc/fstab ? If I just change fstab and try to boot a kernel using libata to access SATA drives, it can't find /dev/sda. thanks Rod Hi Rod, You can't just change it for the sake of changing it. The device name is (for the most part) assigned by the driver that controls that device. Once upon a time, SATA drives fell under the /dev/hd* model. If your kernel has that set of drivers, then you are stuck with /dev/hda, /dev/hda1, etc. I've heard (but not confirmed) the latest 2.6 SATA drivers do live under /dev/sd* instead of /dev/hd*. You'll need to confirm the your kernel actually supports it. Try booting your kernel into single user mode, and looking at dmesg to see how it maps the drives. You might even manage a `fdisk -l` -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
Right your PATA devices don't change, so it makes no difference. If you had SATA devices in there and cut from say a 2.6.5 to a 2.6.8 kernel your SATA devices would go from /dev/hd* to /dev/sd*, it's not a big deal other than needing to modify fstab to accomodate the change. regards, brett On Wednesday 03 November 2004 19:10, Heracles wrote: Brett Fenton wrote: I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were recognized as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered or not the fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my system for example the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root partition /dev/hde1 this needed to be changed to /dev/sda1. This is unusual. I have two SATA interfaces, but my IDE (PATA?) devices are called /dev/hde /dev/hdf etc. Stay well and happy Heracles -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 9 sorted out
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 07:42, O Plameras wrote: 4. Question :- do people need to change all SATA entries from HDA etc. to SDA to use the new libata ? I'd be really greatful if somebody with 2.6.8 or 9 could send me a copy of their fstab file, and tell me whether it was installed fresh or as an upgrade from 2.6.7. Again, you don't if you did not re-arrange the physical connections. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were recognized as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered or not the fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my system for example the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root partition /dev/hde1 this needed to be changed to /dev/sda1. fortunately i use grub and usually leave the old kernels listed in menu.lst, so it was simply a matter of booting into a 2.6.5, altering fstab and rebooting into 2.6.8. regards, brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] question to mutt users
there might be an easier way to do it, though not that i'm aware of. basically you need a separate mda like fetchmail, i prefer getmail as it's config is easier. pipe that through sortmail and it separates your mail into mailfiles based on whatever rules you define. brett On Saturday 23 October 2004 14:09, Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit wrote: Hi, I'm currently using evolution and I'm trying to convert to mutt. I've worked out a few things so far, but one obstacle is filters. In evolution I'm able to filter incoming mail into mailboxes. How can I do this with mutt? TIA, Luke -- Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Apple 23
I've done the 20 ... It wasn't a big deal just add the mode lines into the config and away you go. I had more difficulty getting my particular card to operate, which was unrelated to the monitor choice. regards, brett On Wednesday 13 October 2004 15:18, Malik Jayawardena wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any clue about getting an Apple 23 display running at full res ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on XFree86? Haven't tried it yet, but I'd like to get a heads up. I know it's old but we're using RH 7.3 at the mo. Cheers, -Mal -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] 2.6.8 and usb mass storage
Hi, I upgraded to 2.6.8 (from 2.6.5) a couple of weeks back and everything was relatively smooth with the exception that my sata disks changed from being recognized as ide devices (hd*) to scsi disks (sd*). I went to use an occasionally used lacie external usb hard drive on the weekend only to find this no longer functioned (and it's been fine since i first got it and was using a 2.4.20 kernel). i figured i may have forgotten to configure the kernel accordingly and wanted to change to 2.6.8.1 in any event. it turns out the kernel options were compiled in (scsi disk support and usb mass storage support and usb generic support) the device still no longer functions in fact it's not even detected when i plug it in. a usb flash drive i has is still fine, detects as a scsi device (/dev/sdc) it alos appears in /proc/scsi/usb-storage. any hints here? or anyone else finding similar problems? i've googled on this for a few hours and have found some similar problems recorded but no suggestions as to fixes etc. brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
lame
On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:14, Terry Collins wrote:
What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
umm because 99% of portable music players don't support the formats? brett On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:20, Robert Collins wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 15:14 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: What do people use to encode mp3s on debian? Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff. I know this doesn't answer your question... but why not use flac or ogg ? Rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details
nmap -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 where the xxx's are your subnet. typically it will be something like 192.168.0.0/24 or 10.1.1.0/24 this is assuming your machines are responding to pings b On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:44 pm, bill wrote: I have a home LAN - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected to the 'Net via a modem/router. The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP. AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch to which the PC is connected, and as each PC is running a different OS or Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse and is accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN? I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck. thanks in advance BILL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] External USB Hard Drive Case + HDD
I've got a Lacie 120GB USB2 external HDD. There wasn't much required to get it going. I already had USB2 working and also USB-storage, basically I just plugged it in, looked in /proc/scsi and it was there as /dev/scd2 from memory (as I already had two ide cd-r's in the box as scd1 and 2). From there it was just a matter or creating the FS and mounting it. Good luck Brett Gerard Blacklock wrote: Slug, Anyone had any luck in getting an external USB hard drive to work under linux? I have had the USB keys working fine by mounting as FAT no probs, Any pointers on where to look regarding this issue? not 100% sure where to start! gerard -- Brett Fenton NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addressee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] talk proposal request for help with lftp
Try escaping out the spaces. So for example 'pass word here' would become pass\ word\ here M.da Cruz wrote: Hi All, I have recently switched to Linux and now have it running on my Targa Traveller laptop including the winmodem :-) I bought the Openskills/SLUG Debian CD, also tried Fedora on loan, but ended up installing knoppix. If this stuff is of interest I could share my experiences in a talk. My current challenge is to successfully conect to my webhosting service using lftp. It's an Apache server with one time passwords. These are a set of ten words with spaces... The debug 4 to turn on error messages was a step forward and I have tried replacing the spaces between the words with %20 - but still get an incorrect login message. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. Marghanita -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NetRegistry: December Newsletter
Guys, I'm really sorry this was posted to the list. An error was made in me doing testing on a script. Humble apologies. Brett Fenton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] compiler warnings
It turns out that I am sending a const string to putenv which is defined: ./stdlib.h:extern int putenv (char *__string) __THROW; snip Should I raise this as a bug? It isn't actually a bug. putenv puts the supplied string into the environment (not a copy, the supplied string). This means a future call to getenv will return a pointer to it, (a char *), which can be modified to change the value. Thus to be correct putenv can't take a const, as it can't guarentee how the pointer will be used in future. Take a look at the man page for putenv, in particular the notes. As you can see from the description, the function has a rather interesting history in glibc ;-) Regards, nash [Too much C for my own good] -- Brett Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] work apparently available yet no-one seems interested
a. it's from an agency so it's 50/50 as to whether it's a genuine placement or a resume collector b. salary is unquantified, so highly qualified people may be applying only to find it's $15/hr thus quickly losing interest c. for someone very qualified the role is very mundane in the generalized description given, anyone with several years of exp isn't at face value going to find a lot of meat in it d. its a short contract so many people have only limited interest e. maybe it's poorly worded re:requirments and he's received hundreds of apps but none meet his internal job spec or are of interest to the client, thus the cycle perpetuates with each relisting regards brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I refer to the job set out below, which I found on JobNet. It has appeared repeatedly over the last few weeks and I am surprised the advertisers haven't been killed in the rush. Does anyone know why the job is still there? - Jim Donovan JOBNET - The Career Centre for IT Professionals. JOB REF: JN/NH1001- (PLEASE quote this reference number.) POSITION: Systems Engineer JOB TYPE: Contract SKILLS: Our Client is looking for an enthusiastic Linux support engineer fluent with Versions 7,8 and 9 to become a member of a efficient and dedicated team. A successful candidate will able to Build, Configure and maintain Linux servers and provide solutions to a high standard. All applicants must be able to perform the following :- Managing Users Managing Groups Configuring disks and file systems Disk partitioning and physical device nomenclature Mounting file systems File system labels Networking: Key Utilities and Files Interfaces configuration and monitoring Network Routing Monitoring live network connections Any certification would be a major advantage. All applicants will be contacted if deemed suitable. Please forward your resume to Nathan Holt :- [EMAIL PROTECTED] references will be required to process your application - this is essential. All resume's sent to Nathan Holt for this position will be read and considered of other positions if unsuccessful. LOCATION: Sydney CBD DURATION: 3 months Rolling RATE: Excellent AGENCY: GAP Consulting Group WWW: http://www.gapcg.com.au CONTACT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PHONE: FAX: OPEN TO: Australia/NZ Residents Working Holiday Visa Applicants SUBMITTED: 13-NOV-03 -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Real lamo question about scripts
just include `date -I` as part of the file creation routine ie something like: tar cfz file.`date -I`.tgz /home regards brett Kevin Saenz wrote: Hi all, I have a bash script where I create a tar.gz file I would grab current date and add it to the file name. Could anyone please advise where I could look so I can develop my script further? -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ide cd-writer
I'm sure there are a couple of different ways to handle this. I did it through recompiling the kernel with: no support for IDE CD devices support for SCSI CD support for SSCI gerneric devices support for IDE-SCSI emulation worked on reboot, fstab just needed to be modified to /dev/scd0 /cdrom Regards Brett Ken Caldwell wrote: quote who=Terry Collins Shaun Oliver wrote: hi all, I have here a reco mp70-40a 4x ide cd-writer. I'm attempting to run it on debian woody. how does one set up scsi emulation for this device? There is a HOWTO on this. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. btw. how should I enter in the information in /etc/fstab? Also, you may need to do a kernel upgrade. I recently asked this question and Ken Caldwell posted what he did to get it working under Debian Woody. I really should have posted to the list anyway. This is what I wrote: quote who=Terry Collins 8--- I do not have the ide-cd.o module on my system anywhere. I was wondering where it comes from (source). The problem is I am trying to get a IDE CD-burner working on the Debian system and without this module, I can not access the other CD drive. Usual stuff, which I have done before, but this time, that module is missing. Hi Terry, I rebuilt my Woody box this morning. You are right the default kernel 2.4.18bf does not support a CD burner. I think you may be wrong about the reason though. What I did was to run modconf and install the sg module. (you need both the sg and ide-scsi modules but the ide-scsi module was listed as having already been installed. I then cd to the /dev directory and rm cdrom followed by ln -s scd0 cdrom This was insufficient to get cdrecord working so I did aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 and rebooted using that kernel. I am burning a CD using the box (not this box) as I type. I will be out for an hour or so but will be home later this afternoon or this evening. Feel free to 'phone if you have a problem. cheers, Ken -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Recommended .com.au registrar
There are provisions in place to deal with this type of situation. auDA who is the .au regulatory body will become the acting registrar for the domain in the interim period between company X going belly up and the registrant selecting a new registrar. A very similar thing occurred at the time of deregulation of the space. auDA became the registrar of record for all .net.au domains (about 10,000 or so), registrants had to then transfer the domain to a registrar in order to be able to manage contact details, delegation and the like. Brett Fenton Matthew Palmer wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 09:24:26PM +, Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:54:43 +1000 (EST) excuse my ignorance, but. What happens if your registrar company (whoever they are) go belly-up? I'm sure that all IT companies are run by reputable businessmen with incredible acumen and skill, but you never know, do you? it's my understanding that even if your regisrar goes belly up, the names will be registered for the full 2 years, regardless, Although, since your domain information is managed through your registrar, and not the registry, that if you want to change your details you have to switch to a new registrar before you can do anything like that (such as change contact details, DNS servers, etc). - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Division by zero error
Hi Lyle, Which version of Wine ?, also what does the app do, is it proprietary ? Can we get a copy to do some testing for you? Thank You Brett Olsen -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 1970 5:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Division by zero error Can anybody help, I am trying to run a legacy program in wine, and when I do the program goes through all the output listed below then it spits out this error - can anybody help. Run-Time error 11 Division by zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICS]# wine KeyColor2000_TEST7.exe Building font metrics. This may take some time... Font metrics: 0.0% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-gothic-medium-r- normal--16- 120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-mincho-medium-r- normal--16- 120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-mincho-medium-r- normal--24- 170-100-100-c-240-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-fangsong ti-medium-r- normal-- 16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song ti-medium-r- normal--16-1 60-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song ti-medium-r- normal--24-2 40-72-72-c-240-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. Font metrics: 0.5% done Font metrics: 1.0% done Font metrics: 1.4% done Font metrics: 1.9% done Font metrics: 2.4% done Font metrics: 2.9% done Font metrics: 3.4% done Font metrics: 3.9% done Font metrics: 4.3% done Font metrics: 4.8% done Font metrics: 5.3% done Font metrics: 5.8% done Font metrics: 6.3% done Font metrics: 6.8% done Font metrics: 7.2% done Font metrics: 7.7% done Font metrics: 8.2% done Font metrics: 8.7% done Font metrics: 9.2% done Font metrics: 9.7% done Font metrics: 10.1% done Font metrics: 10.6% done Font metrics: 11.1% done Font metrics: 11.6% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu arabic extra-medium-r- normal--1 7-120-100-100-p-101-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and char acter encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu devanagari-medium-r- normal--15- 120-90-90-p-104-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and characte r encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu devangari extra-medium- r-normal --17-120-100-100-p-105-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and c haracter encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu ligature-medium-r- normal--17-12 0-100-100-p-141-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and characte r encoding '0' Font metrics: 12.1% done Font metrics: 12.6% done Font metrics: 13.0% done Font metrics: 13.5% done Font metrics: 14.0% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look cursor-12-120-75- 75-p-160-s unolcursor-1' has unknown registry 'sunolcursor' and character encoding '1' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look glyph-10-100-75-75- p-101-su nolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' and character encoding '1' Font metrics: 14.5% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look glyph-12-120-75-75- p-113-su nolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' and character encoding '1' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look glyph-14-140-75-75- p-128-su nolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' and character encoding '1' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look glyph-19-190-75-75- p-154-su nolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' and character encoding '1' Font metrics: 15.0% done Font metrics: 15.5% done Font metrics: 15.9% done Font metrics: 16.4% done Font metrics: 16.9% done Font metrics: 17.4% done Font metrics: 17.9% done Font metrics: 18.4% done Font metrics: 18.8% done Font metrics: 19.3% done Font metrics: 19.8% done Font metrics: 20.3% done Font metrics: 20.8% done Font metrics: 21.3% done Font metrics: 21.7% done Font metrics: 22.2% done Font metrics: 22.7% done Font metrics: 23.2% done Font metrics: 23.7% done Font metrics: 24.2% done Font metrics: 24.6% done Font metrics: 25.1% done Font metrics: 25.6% done Font metrics: 26.1% done Font metrics: 26.6% done Font metrics: 27.1% done Font metrics: 27.5% done Font metrics: 28.0% done Font metrics: 28.5% done Font metrics: 29.0% done Font metrics: 29.5% done Font metrics: 30.0% done Font metrics: 30.4% done Font metrics: 30.9% done Font metrics: 31.4% done Font metrics: 31.9% done Font metrics: 32.4% done Font metrics: 32.9% done Font metrics: 33.3% done Font metrics: 33.8% done Font metrics: 34.3% done Font metrics: 34.8% done Font metrics: 35.3% done Font metrics: 35.7% done Font metrics: 36.2% done Font metrics: 36.7% done Font metrics: 37.2% done Font metrics: 37.7% done Font metrics
RE: [SLUG] Division by zero error
Hi Lyle, Sounds like a specialist application indeed :-) Hmm, 20030911 is pretty up to date, you could spend days trying out the DLL overrides and other options in the wine config file and merging in DLL's from an existing Win98 box or if you are game compile the latest version of Wine from CVS (if available). If you have some time to sort out the DLL's, refer to the DOCO and try this option --debugmsg +loaddll, see http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-user/config-drive-main for more info, expect to spend at least a couple of hours doing this, it might not work 100%. What about another option like VMWARE ?, the requirements are quite hefty compared to Wine though. Also I noticed that Transgaming's WineX (www.transgaming.com) runs some applications that Wine does not and vice versa. Um, that's about all I can think of for now, if we had access to the app we could help you with the DLL stuff, but if you got Redhat+Wine installed you can probably work through this yourself. Best of luck :-) Thank You Brett Olsen -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 1970 6:03 PM To: Brett Olsen Subject: RE: [SLUG] Division by zero error Cheers for replying, the version is wine-20030911-1rh9winehq.i686.rpm and is obviously runnning on RH9. The app is proprietry and is used to control colour settings on a Printing Press. The software connects to a central server over tcp/ethernet for colour values and also controls ink ducts on our press via a serial port and parallel port connected to specialised control equipment. It has a basic GUI setup with controls to change ink settings, press configuration etc. The software was written to my knowledge in Visual Basic and at the moment is running on a Win98 platform, we want to try and move to Linux as we have had reliability and virus issues with 98. Unfortunately I cannot supply a copy of the software. Thanks for the swift reply, I appreciate it. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:04:29 +1000, Brett Olsen wrote: Hi Lyle, Which version of Wine ?, also what does the app do, is it proprietary ? Can we get a copy to do some testing for you? Thank You Brett Olsen -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 1970 5:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Division by zero error Can anybody help, I am trying to run a legacy program in wine, and when I do the program goes through all the output listed below then it spits out this error - can anybody help. Run-Time error 11 Division by zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICS]# wine KeyColor2000_TEST7.exe Building font metrics. This may take some time... Font metrics: 0.0% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-gothic-medium-r- normal--16- 120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-mincho-medium-r- normal--16- 120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-daewoo-mincho-medium-r- normal--24- 170-100-100-c-240-ksc5601.1987-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-fangsong ti-medium-r- normal-- 16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song ti-medium-r- normal--16-1 60-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song ti-medium-r- normal--24-2 40-72-72-c-240-gb2312.1980-0' are not working correctly now. Font metrics: 0.5% done Font metrics: 1.0% done Font metrics: 1.4% done Font metrics: 1.9% done Font metrics: 2.4% done Font metrics: 2.9% done Font metrics: 3.4% done Font metrics: 3.9% done Font metrics: 4.3% done Font metrics: 4.8% done Font metrics: 5.3% done Font metrics: 5.8% done Font metrics: 6.3% done Font metrics: 6.8% done Font metrics: 7.2% done Font metrics: 7.7% done Font metrics: 8.2% done Font metrics: 8.7% done Font metrics: 9.2% done Font metrics: 9.7% done Font metrics: 10.1% done Font metrics: 10.6% done Font metrics: 11.1% done Font metrics: 11.6% done fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu arabic extra-medium-r- normal--1 7-120-100-100-p-101-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and char acter encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu devanagari-medium-r- normal--15- 120-90-90-p-104-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and characte r encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu devangari extra-medium- r-normal --17-120-100-100-p-105-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and c haracter encoding '0' fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu ligature-medium-r- normal--17-12 0-100-100-p-141-fontspecific-0' has unknown registry 'fontspecific' and characte r encoding '0' Font metrics: 12.1% done Font
[SLUG] RAID question
Greetings etc, In a system I am building I have setup two hard disks in a RAID 1 configuration (which has worked well so far) but I would now like to disable (possibly temporary, possibly permanently) the secondary hard disk from the array (so the RAID array will be an array of one). I have tried removing the secondary hdd from /etc/raidtab (and rebooting) but this has no effect (lsraid -R -p also does not show the changes I made to /etc/raidtab). I have also attempted to raidstop each array, but the majority of them are in use at runtime, and thus I can't unmount them. Can anybody offer some pointers? Additionally I will still need both hdd's in the machine as I will be installing Gentoo on the secondary hdd, so simply removing the hdd is not an option. I suppose I could simply format the drive from a boot disk (and recreate the array when I want it back),but there has to be a nicer solution than this? Thanks in advance, Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multi function printer
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 09:31, Ken Foskey wrote: I was thinking of getting a laser / fax combo. The boss lady wants a simple fax and I can use this to get my laser printer. On the lower price point. It must run under cups and toner must be in the reasonable range. Any suggestions. I don't have your exact answer but... I recently bought a multifunction printer (inkjet (which is not what your looking for but anyway...) from HP (Officejet 4110: supported only via CVS compile, under Redhat 9 (+ fixes)). As far as I know HP are the only company which have any support for multifunctional devices under Linux. (ie: Brother, Canon, Epson *don't* (AFAIK)). If you are going to go HP you might want to check out: http://hpoj.sf.net/ (HP linux drivers) http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ (HP's linux page +filters) Some other Linux printing resources: http://LinuxPrinting.org/ (all the linux printing info you could ever want) and in particular: http://www.linuxprinting.org/vendors.html (lists general vendor support) http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html appears to have some good info as well which might help, and in particular (to contradict my earlier statement re Canon): For a working multifunction device, consider the Epson CX3200 and CX5200 (use kernel 2.4.21 or newer); or one of the HP OfficeJet or PSC devices supported by the HPOJ project such as the PSC 2150 or PSC 750. Avoid Lexmarks, Canons, and Brothers. (I don't think the Canon's have fax tho, :-( Erm, if you *really* want laser, HP I believe have some nice network printers (in the higher price range ~ $1,200 AU, which appear to work with any OS(?), they use things lie FTP + email to transmit data(?)). And in any case, if you find anything good or bad (*especially* if you find a cheaper multifunction laser ) could you post back to the list (and or myself?) I'd *really* link to know :-) I bought my printer from OfficeWorks (www.officeworks.com.au). I asked regarding printers under Linux (and both people I talked to about it even knew what Linux was!), they told me that I could return the printer if I couldn't get it to work. (YMMV) And don't take my word for it, I have only been looking at linux printers the last couple of weeks... Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] A question of deletion.
use shred or wipe to kill the files rather than say rm. there are many file recovery tools out there they just depend on the fs being used. eg e2undel for ext2 brett Bill Bennett wrote: In the old days, MS deleted a file by clipping the leading letter and substituting a token that stood for deleted. You can't undelete a file in Linux. Is this because the file has been shredded? I ask not because I want to undelete, but because I have some sensitive data files that I have deleted and *don't* want resurrected at any later date. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Benefits of source distro (Gentoo) somewhat elusive :-)
This is an interesting POV. We currently have about 40 Linux boxes in high load production environments, and racking my brian I can't think of a scenario where a 0.1% increase in performance (for performance alone not considering interoperability or security for example) would be worth more than a very quick update. Perhaps you could give us some examples in the real world? Brett DE LUCA Ben wrote: If you need to handle more load, throw another cpu, more ram or another box at the problem. Some times this is not possible, that even a 0.1% increase in performance is worth it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] aunic whois 24 hours blacklist on my web server
I think the query limit is 20/hr from any single IP address, it is to prevent mining of the whois db. Brett Voytek Eymont wrote: I just tried to run a whois on a com.au domain, and, what I got was: --- [echidna-]whois aname.com.au BLACKLISTED: You have exceeded the query limit for your IP address and have been blacklisted. This restriction will be removed in 24 hours. %%% End of referred query result --- it 's only on 'com.au' domains I get that, other whois servers reply OK this whois was executed from my web/mail/dns server, there are no shell users (apart from me, infequently). today was 1st time in days if not weeks that I executed whois I guess it's implying there is some recurrent whois queries running from a web user ?? perplexed. Voytek Eymont -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] can't write superblock when unmounting SMB share
umount -l ? On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 20:48, Douglas Stalker wrote: RedHat 9.0, SAMBA 3.0.0beta3 I'm having problems unmounting a remote SMB share, and I'd like to get it unmounted without resorting to rebooting the linux system. The problem I get when trying to unmount it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pristic01]# umount share_images umount: share_images: can't write superblock I also can;t go into the directory: bash: cd: share_images: Input/output error Does anyone know any tricks to forcefully unmount the directory? Doug Stalker Technical Support Engineer Rational Software, an IBM CompanyPhone: +612-9419-0111 Fax: +612-9419-0123 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.rational.com/support Did you know you can search for solutions at: http://solutions.rational.com/solutions/ __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] stripping CtrlM: CRLF vs LF vs CR dillema
tr -d '[\200-\377]' infile outfile -d deletes \200-\377 is all non-ascii characters infile is the http.conf you have outfile is the stream output brett On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 07:47, Voytek Eymont wrote: I just edited httpd.conf on a non-*nix machine, and, now have have lots of CtrlMs in the file: I uploaded the file back to linux machine, and, it seems OK, it looks OK in an editor, though, mc shows the CtrlM I know there is the issue of CR/LF vs LF vs CR DOS/*nix/Mac, BUT will it cause real problems ? - what can I use to strip the CR ? - will it cause any prbs if I was to leave the CR in the httpd.conf ? Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] stripping CtrlM: CRLF vs LF vs CR dillema
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:54, Angus Lees wrote: vi: :%s/.$// - which is a cop-out, since I can never remember how to put a literal \r in :%s;\r;;g brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] scp syntax
you need sshd on the host not the client. syntax is: scp file [EMAIL PROTECTED]: brett Voytek Eymont wrote: do I need sshd on my pc to use scp ..? I'm trying to copy some files with scp; I have installed ssh CLIENT stuff only on my OS/2 pc. I did NOT install or configured the sshd stuff I can ssh no probs to the linux box, specify user, it just works BUT, what do I need to scp...? scp says it wants: 0[roman][F:\work\linux]scp usage: scp [-pqrvBC1246] [-F config] [-S program] [-P port] [-c cipher] [-i identity] [-l limit] [-o option] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:]file1 [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:]file2 1[roman][F:\work\linux\temp]scp koala.sbt.net.au: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf RSA key fingerprint is . Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 1[roman][F:\work\linux\temp] it exist with error level 1, and, nothing copied what do I need ...? Voytek Eymont -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
depending on your boot loader you need to specify where the kernel is. in lilo this is /etc/lilo.conf then re-run /sbin/lilo in grub you can either define in /boot/grub/menu.lst or just pass the kernel at the grub boot prompt. brett On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 05:02, Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:41:58 +1000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: what do I now need to reload the (new) kernel...? reboor or what else ? Reboot. is there any 'special' way to reboot to specify new kernel...? I rebooted, but, RHN keeps telling me to 'update the kernel' RHN says i have: Kernel: 2.4.20-18.7 Registered: 2003-07-13 01:57:18 (GMT +10) Checked In: 2003-07-28 18:02:36 (GMT +10) Last Booted: 2003-07-28 11:59:53 (GMT +10) machine says it has: uname -a Linux 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown looking in the /boot I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls boot.b lost+found System.map-2.4.20-18.7 chain.b message vmlinux-2.4.18-5 config-2.4.18-5 module-info vmlinux-2.4.20-18.7 config-2.4.20-18.7 module-info-2.4.18-5 vmlinuz grubmodule-info-2.4.20-18.7 vmlinuz-2.4.18-5 initrd-2.4.18-5.img os2_d.b vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.7 initrd-2.4.20-18.7.img System.map kernel.hSystem.map-2.4.18-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# anyhow, I've told RHN to update the kernel again Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Quiet keyboards
I've got a logitech cordless which is relatively quiet and the cordless is good if you have a desk full of crap like me. Brett Andrew Monkhouse wrote: Not quite Linux I know, but SWMBO is complaining about the noise I am making while typing. I do have a noisy keyboard, and I type fast, which makes for a lot of fast loud clicks, which gets her heart racing. So I am looking for a very quiet keyboard. Must be compatible with Linux (cannot imagine any problems with that though). Anyone have any suggestions? Regards, Andrew -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, though has dated very slightly. Brett Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
When I click on the link it auto downloads the pdf it works for me. Brett Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:45, Brett Fenton wrote: http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, though has dated very slightly. It's also not there. Cheers, Bret Brett Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SMP kernel?
Having just been through this ... yes. Recompile with SMP support and enable the Hyperthreading in BIOS if it's not already. The 2.4.21 kernel will be ok. You'll be able to then see both processors in /proc/cpuinfo If you want to see both processors in top, you'll need to recompile the package that provides it from source. Regards Brett Fenton Lyle Chapman wrote: I have a small question - I purchased a new machine on the weekend, P4 3ghz with HT. Do I need to update my kernel to an SMP one to gain the use of hyper-threading? thanks, Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. www.torchpublishing.com.au 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia (02) Ph: 9795 (02) Fax: 9795 0096 -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed
I haven't really tuned anything for this. The newer 2.4 kernels mostly optimize the disk paramaters. Presently I've got a 120GB WD disk in the box. hdparm revels: /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.15 seconds =853.33 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.42 seconds = 45.07 MB/sec Which is okay for what I use the disk with. I remeber a while back playing with hdparm and getting the reads up around 60MB/s from memory. I think you'll need to look in the IDE/ATAPI section of the kernel config there is options there *from memory* for use DMA by default and another option that escapes me for optimized use of DMA. Brett Lyle Chapman wrote: Sorry one more question to annoy everybody with, I have installed a new 80gb seagate drive and the problem is when I copy something to or from it I am getting a woeful 3 mb/sec transfer speed. I ran hdparm -Tt /dev/hda and the result was the cache access was reporting the right speed but disk access was 3.5meg/sec (pathetic) I ran hdparm again and turned all the go faster bits on, this increased it to 5.5 meg/sec. Although I did notice that I get a DMA error in hdparm when trying to turn DMA on. Any ideas anyone, thanks? Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. www.torchpublishing.com.au 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia (02) Ph: 9795 (02) Fax: 9795 0096 -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed
I've got 2.4.21 and the IDE/DMA seems to be fine. Brett Matthew Palmer wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:34:10AM +1000, Lyle Chapman wrote: Sorry one more question to annoy everybody with, I have installed a new 80gb seagate drive and the problem is when I copy something to or from it I am getting a woeful 3 mb/sec transfer speed. Are you running it under 2.4.21? I've had really slow speeds on HDD access under 2.4.21, and I'm told it's because something got broken in IDE DMA in that kernel version. Luckily the machine I'm running it on is only my firewall, so HDD speed isn't important. - Matt -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux POS software
Greetings, Other than gShop and banahead, can anybody recommend any decent point-of-sale software for linux? Does anybody have an good/bad expereiences with the former? TIA Brett gShop http://gshop.sourceforge.net/ Bananahead http://www.bananahead.com/pos/index.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hard disk
wipe or shred will do it. you'd need to stick the disk into another machine say as the first device on the secondary ide channel (assuming ide). then: wipe /dev/hdc will sanitize the disk. it'll also can your mbr, so you'll need to start from scratch afterwars. lots of hassle for something. the easiest way is to create a boot floppy or cd with fdisk on it. fdisk the disk re-create partitions/filesystems and everything should be fine. you may also want to recreate the mbr on the disk. brett Dan Banyard wrote: Hi, Recently my linux box was hacked. I re-installed the OS but I am still having problems with the machine. At this stage I am unsure whether these problems are due a hardware or software issue. I would like to totally wipe the hard disk and start again just in case the hackers have left any files. There seems to be loads of disk wiping utilities for Windows but I cannot see a way in which I can totally wipe the disk. Does anyone know of a utility or command? Also does anyone know of a hardware checking facility? I am using SuSE 7.2. I am getting to the stage when I am considering junking the whole machine, but this seems a real waste. Comments from anyone who has been hacked on what they did? Thanks in advance. Dan -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] intel i875
has anyone been successful in getting linux to run on a board with an i875 chipset? apparently the latest 2.5.x kernels can support it, but i'm not having a great deal of luck. brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] intel i875
of course after 4 hours of frustration, five minutes after posting, it all works. recompile 2.5.75 with hyperthreading support and all systems are go .. brett On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 20:19, Brett Fenton wrote: has anyone been successful in getting linux to run on a board with an i875 chipset? apparently the latest 2.5.x kernels can support it, but i'm not having a great deal of luck. brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Converting courier-imap Maildir to Cyrus Maildir structure
no i don't believe so. i use uwimapd (mailfile not maildir) and state is maintained when viewing through different clients, in fact different clients on different machines. brett Adam Hewitt wrote: I dont know about the Maildirs but I think you will find that it is actually the client that knows whether the mail has been read or not. I remember formatting my PC and reinstalling before and when I checked my mail they were all unread. Adam. On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:28, Gonzalo Servat wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know of a way to convert Courier-IMAP Maildirs (including folders) to Cyrus Maildir? Cyrus uses numbers for each message (ie 1. 2. 3.) so renaming them is trivial, but does Cyrus then simply scan the folder for all emails when a user logs in or do you have to run some command to re-write the Cyrus index files for that folder? I guess converting folders and the rest wouldn't be too hard either using Perl. I'm trying to switch to Cyrus without causing any disruption (eg, I don't want emails to appear as 'new' next time the user logs in) Thanks in advance. Regards, Gonzalo -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Gentoo/Redhat: time
Greetings,
I am currently attempting to install Gentoo, over a modem, using Redhat
boot disks (Gentoo doesn't have a boot disk option as yet, though some
poeple have had success in building Gentoo using other distro bootdisks
(slackware/redhat)). I am trying to bootstrap the distro (bootstrap.sh),
however, due to a buggy motherboard/BIOS the build is failing due to
incorrect time (the hardware clock will not keep dates after Y2K, the clock
is reset to 1994 dates after every reboot).
The redhat bootdisk I am using has a program clock but I am not sure of
the exact argument format to pass to set the clock to a reasonable time. An
example is as follows:
{
# clock --set --date=01012003
BusyBox v0.60.5 (2003.01.24-24:44+) muti-call library
Usage: date [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]
The date command issues by hwclock returned with unexpected results.
The command was:
date --date=01012003 +seconds-into-epoch=%s
The response was
No usable set-to time. cannot set clock.
}
Redhat uses Busybox as part of their boot disk image(as above?),
unfortunately busybox does not have documentation for the clock command
(http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html)
Output of clock --help (of which I can be bothered to type...):
{
Usage hwclock [function] [options...]
Funtions:
--help ...
--show ...
--set set the rtc to the time given with --date
--hctosys ...
--systobc ...
--getepoch print out the kernel hardware clock epoch value
--setepoch set the kernel hardware clock epoch value to the value given
with --epoch
--version ...
Options:
--utc ...
--localtime ...
--direction ...
--badyear Ignores rtc's year because the bios is broken
--date specifies the time to which to set the hardware clock
--epoch=year specifies the year which is the beginning of the hardware
clock's epoch value
--noadjfile ...
}
I have also tried the following (where XX is a time/number):
{
#clock --badyear
/var/lib/lastdate: No such file or directory
#echo Wed Jul 6 11:11:11 2003 -0.175775 seconds lastdate
#clock --badyear
Wed Jul 6 XX:XX:XX 1994 -0.175775
}
But that doesn't seem to work either (and gives no reason why it shouldn't)
Please, somebody put me out of my misery, I don't want to have to
re-install redhat :-)
Brett
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Re: [SLUG] Gentoo/Redhat: time
At 11:32 AM 6/07/2003, you wrote: Greetings, I am currently attempting to install Gentoo, over a modem, using Redhat boot disks (Gentoo doesn't have a boot disk option as yet, though some poeple have had success in building Gentoo using other distro bootdisks (slackware/redhat)). I am trying to bootstrap the distro (bootstrap.sh), however, due to a buggy motherboard/BIOS the build is failing due to incorrect time (the hardware clock will not keep dates after Y2K, the clock is reset to 1994 dates after every reboot). And in reply to myself; I have found some documented examples of using clock and hwclock (it's amazing what you find after a computer break:-) , but they still do not seem to work (and give the same I gave previously). I have tried the following: hwclock --set --date=7 Jul 2003 14:32 hwclock --set --date=07 Jul 2003 14:32 clock --set --date=7 Jul 2003 14:32 clock --set --date=07 Jul 2003 14:32 AFAIK these commands are valid, can anybody tell me why they might not be OR does anybody know of a statically linked binary of a network time program? TIA Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] RH73 RHN rhn-register fails with socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out')
At 09:04 AM 30/06/2003, you wrote: snip Now that the machine has a proper IP/hostname, I wanted to re-register it with RHN, but , it fails with: rhn-register A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out'), attem pt #1 A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out'), attempt #2 A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out'), attempt #3 A socket error occured: (110, 'Connection timed out'), attempt #4 I have also had a problem recently with rhn-register, on a new install of Redhat 7.1, I believe that the problem in my case (I can't remember if it is the exact same, but I seem to remember it being very similar) was an incorrect date/time on the box. Additionally, you may find that up2date + rhn-register may not work without being significantly updated anyway, (and about 12 other dependencies besides). YMMV After a few alternative approaches to updating the system (eg: downloading updated up2date rpm's + dependencies) I gave up (it was only installed that day so nothing to loose) and am today downloading/installing gentoo (www.gentoo.org) (over a modem, should be interesting...) Brett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MSWebsite2LinuxWebSite.sh utility?
You can do it in a couple of lines by calling sed or better yet in perl. Brett Stuart Guthrie wrote: From the ThisMustHaveBeenDoneBeforeDept I´ve a friend who has a Linux server and they have got a MS web site loaded. Problem is that MS doesn´t care about upper/lower case and GNU/Linux does. Is there a utility that can uncapitalise image file names, directory names and tags or should I write one? Stu -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OS disguise in browser
I don't know about Mozilla, but this is a config setting in Opera. Alan L Tyree wrote: Evidently Mozilla sends out information which permits the server to identify Linux as the operating system. Is it possible to fool the server into thinking that some other :-) operating system is being used? Thanks, Alan -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IMAP client on Windows
I have a very similar setup here and in the office, except it's getmail sortmail uw impad I also have an issue with finding a decent client to handle imap on windows. I haven't tried some of those you've mentioned, but can give advice on those you ommitted to name. Outlook is terrible and continually crashed, Express was notably better but still has it's own quirks. I find myself more often than not using a terminal emulator and mutt. Brett On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 07:10, Nik Belajcic wrote: On Sunday 01 June 2003 07:52 am, Nik Belajcic wrote: I know this is not a Linux question in the strict sense, but I am posting it here because I think that there may be others who have already faced the same problem and might offer suggestions. I have just finished setting up my mail server at home (Fetchmail, Postfix, Procmail, Courier-IMAP) and I am trying to find something that would be more or less a Windows clone of KMail - simple but functional - to use as IMAP Windows client. I have looked at Mahogany, Mulberry, Sylpheed, Pocomail3 (beta) and Mozilla mail, besides the obvious one that will remain nameless, but they all have one problem or another. I just can't believe that there is nothing that fits this description, so any suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Nik Belajcic. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Mkiso off CD not working
I could be very wrong, but I dont think its that simple.
I usually extract the wav files to a temporary directory then pipe the
output to mkisofs. In fact a while ago a wrote a shell script that did
it all automagically. I'll see if I can retreive it.
Brett
: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Behalf Of Terry Collins
: Sent: Monday, 7 April 2003 11:29 AM
: To: Slug List
: Subject: [SLUG] Mkiso off CD not working
:
:
: I'm trying to take an iso off an audio CD, but no luck. Both Cdrom
: drives are /dev/hdc ide cd-burner (HP) and /dev/hdd (LG
: 52x). The system
: is a debian potato.
:
: damselfly:/shared2/cd-images# dd if=/dev/hdc
: of=/shared2/cd-images/test.iso bs=8196
: dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
: 0+0 records in
: 0+0 records out
: damselfly:/shared2/cd-images#
:
: My brain is still suffering from Mondayitis and thinks
: that this is all
: it did under the RH system. Anyone got any clues?
:
:
:
: --
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RE: [SLUG] Mounting a second hard drive
The easist way to do it is to: 1. fdisk to make the partitions on the new disk 2. create the filesystem (different tools for diferent fs) 3. mount the disk in some temporary space eg /mnt/home2 4. copy all the data over from /home to /mnt/home2 ensuring that you maintain file permissions 5. edit fstab so that /home mounts on the new device 6. for safety mv /home /home_old (you can delete if everything is okay later) alternatively you can copy all the data across and symlink /home to the new location. Brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Edwin Humphries : Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 10:11 AM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [SLUG] Mounting a second hard drive : : : I want to add a second hard drive to my server, but I need : to define it's mount : point as /home/. : : I've worked out how to partition it and set up the file : system, but all the advice : I've found so far uses rather useless (for me) mount : points such as /new/, or : /mnt/hd2, or similar. : : Can I mount the new drive into /home/? : What wil it do to the data already in that directory, and : its subdirectories? : : Edwin Humphries, : Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.ironstone.com.au : Phone: 02 4233 2285 : Fax: 02 4233 2299 : Mobile: 0419 233 051 : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Good April 1st on Slashdot.org and Gentoo.org
What a good one, got me for a while there almost had a Heart Attack, fancy using RPM Significant architectural changes to Gentoo Linux and Portage 2.1 headline this week's GWN. Read on to understand how these changes, including the migration to RPM format, will affect the future of Gentoo Linux. Additional updates bring news on the next release of Gentoo Linux 1.4 as well as news about bugs, portage and new developers. See www.slashdot.org and www.gentoo.org, non Gentoo users may not find this funny :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately
They are way more elegant. dpkg is what it's all built off. If you get the .deb file you can use dpkg -i package.deb just like you would on an rpm based system. apt is the obtaining of the packages from either a local source say your installation cd's or a remote source like ftp. apt is cutting out a step. in the simplest case with an rpm you might visit rpmfind.net for example, locate your package, download and then install. with apt it will find the package for you and then use dpkg to install it, so you don't need to bother with the searching and download part. Where apt really shines is when it's less simple and there are a number of dependencies for the package you want. In an RPM based system you may find them each individually, download, and install. With apt it figures it all out for you, grabs the packages it needs and installs them all to meet the dependencies. Dselect is just a graphical apt. It loads the list of packages available in the source you define, you select the ones you want and it then uses apt to get them and dpkg to install them, solving any dependicies along the way. The above is a very simplstic view they are loads of other neat things like apt-cache, graphical package managers (storm) etc etc. Brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Stewart : Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 1:45 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately : : : : On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 09:23 AM, : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : Having said that, Mandrake's urpmi is a big leap in the right : direction, but still lacks the simple elegance of : apt-get/dpkg/dselect : in both operation and configuration. : : now i'm turning into a debhead, can someone 'please : explain' exactly : what the difference between apt-get/dpkg/dselect is and : how they work : together? to my mind three commands aint as 'simple : elegance' as one : rpm one. :-) : : but other than that i'm pretty impressed with how my woody is : installing. : : ..S. : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Fwd: What are apt-get/dpkg/dselect? [Was: apt-get weirdness lately]
upgrading the kernel is about 10x easier on debian as on other distributions (imho). you simply select your kernel options in config/menuconfig/xconfig build a .deb package, then install the package with dpgk. i think you'll be suprised at how easy it is. brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Stewart : Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 2:55 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [SLUG] Fwd: What are apt-get/dpkg/dselect? [Was: apt-get : weirdness lately] : : : : thanks for the subject change - i should've done that myself. :) : : and thanks to all who replied, it's a bit clearer now. : : i was getting a bit mystified because 'apt-get install php' wasn't : working for me, where i thought the package name was a : sort of wildcard : search, it doesn't seem to be. i fired up dselect and : scrolled through : reams of packages and found the php ones (and a bunch of : other stuff i : want) and it's downloading now as i type. (looks like i : should've said : apt-get install php4...) : : yes indeedy, it's a very neat system. : : next i get to wrestle with upgrading the kernel because i : forgot about : that part post-install - but i think i'll ring the debhead : guy i know : and get him to explain it all again to me rather than : bothering the : list.. : : ..S. : : On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 02:13 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: : : quote who=Stewart : : now i'm turning into a debhead, can someone 'please : explain' exactly : what : the difference between apt-get/dpkg/dselect is and how : they work : together? : to my mind three commands aint as 'simple elegance' as : one rpm one. : :-) : : Okay: : :dpkg: : : Basic package management functions such as : install/remove/replace, : etc. : At the same level as rpm(1) in the package management stack. : Nothing : much to write home about; at this level, the interesting : differences are : in the actual deb/rpm file formats. : :apt-get: : : Basic network-aware package installation/management : tool which : handles : dependencies and OS-integration. CLI-based, it is : basically on the : same : level as urpmi and up2date, but is arguably more : useful (lots of : other : features that make it 'nice'). : :dselect: : : An attempt to provide a sensible user interface : (ncurses-based) to : package management on apt-based systems. : :apititude: : : Another attempt to provide a sensible user interface : (ncurses-based) to : package mangement on apt-based systems. : : There are lots of other packages that provide what dselect and : aptitude are : designed to, such as synaptic, aptivate, etc., etc... : But I don't think : anyone has managed to find the right combination of : simplicity and : usability : to steal me away from apt-get. Sad, but true. : : - Jeff : : -- : I think hot Chinese girls who kick ass are the wave : of the future, : as :far as films go. - Cody Russell : : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] THE DEPRESSED DEBIAN GUY ....
Because after the pipe it's trying to execute the command. The command should be dpkg -l insert package list here Brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Mick Boda : Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 5:57 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [SLUG] THE DEPRESSED DEBIAN GUY : : : Hi All, : : Not realy depressed, a little frustrated, but mainly with my : inAPTitude with Debian ... Still, I must admit, amid the : frustration : theres been some quality time refreshing my command-line : stuff (which I : won't let lapse again, even when I get my GUI happening) and I'm : enjoying the learning experience. : : dpkg -|xserver xfree86 returns the following error : : xserver xfree86 command not found. : : I'm still running 4.1 (according to /var/log/XFree86.0.log) : : There's no listing regarding any Xfree packages in : ?var/cache/apt/archives : : Thanks all : : Mick : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] depressed debian guy
apt-cache search 'xfree' will give a lot of output .. in there will be the correct package name ie 'xserver-xfree86' you can either dpkg -l this if you think you may have it installed, or apt-get it: dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 apt-get install xserver-xfree86 brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Mick Boda : Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 6:07 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [SLUG] depressed debian guy : : : Hi all, : : bret wrote : The command should be dpkg -l insert package list here : : What is the package list, where would it live and would it be : downloaded via apt-get? : : Regards : : Mick : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] WineX 3.0 Preview release available
Title: WineX 3.0 Preview release available Just a quick note, Winex have released a preview of Version 3, available to all members. The WineX 3.0 preview release marks the first recent release based on TransGaming's core development efforts on the main WineX development branch, rather than the 'stable' 2.0 branch. TransGaming's developers have added the key enabling technologies for the next generation of games, including many that were highly rated in the monthly polls, such as Battlefield 1942, Sim City 4, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, and Dungeon Siege. Thank You Brett Olsen
RE: [SLUG] WineX 3.0 Preview release available
Hi Guys, Sorry about that :-) Transgaming can be found at www.transgaming.com, some screenshots can be found in the games database : http://www.transgaming.com/dogamesearch.php?keywords=search=Searchworking= 0order=working A bit of NFO, WineX is a project that was originally based on Wine, which focuses on DirectX and other gaming technologies. I use WineX, to ease my Windoze gaming fix, typically I can install the game from WineX, get a Desktop Icon and click the shortcut, just like any windows game, but with no windows at all ! Guess I just assumed you had all been using it since version 1 :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 4:18 PM To: Brett Olsen Subject: Re: [SLUG] WineX 3.0 Preview release available Screenshots...? URI...? Thanks Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Brett Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2003 02:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] WineX 3.0 Preview release available Just a quick note, Winex have released a preview of Version 3, available to all members. The WineX 3.0 preview release marks the first recent release based on TransGaming's core development efforts on the main WineX development branch, rather than the 'stable' 2.0 branch. TransGaming's developers have added the key enabling technologies for the next generation of games, including many that were highly rated in the monthly polls, such as Battlefield 1942, Sim City 4, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, and Dungeon Siege. Thank You Brett Olsen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multiple Xsessions with Gnome 2
Hello, I've been having some weird problems with Gnome. I'm not sure if gdm is the culprit or something else is. I am currently useing gnome2.2 backported to debian 3.0. The problem is two people use my machine. We generally both like to keep an Xsession around, rather then continualy log each other of X. What the problem is we can't seem to start a second session of Gnome up. To reproduce: UserA: Uses startx to start an Xsession UserB: uses 'startx -- :1' to start an Xsession UserB's session will never start - it just hangs after it popups the gnoem spadh screen (no icons are shown). UserB can log in okay if UserA isn't logged in. Additionally if UserB starts first, UserA won't be able to start a session. To really make things strange - either user can create two sessions, without a problem. I'm curious if anyone has any idea what may be causing this? If not I'll try reporting a bug - although I'm not sure which component has the problem. Regards, nash -- Brett Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Xsessions with Gnome 2
I've been having some weird problems with Gnome. I'm not sure if gdm is the culprit or something else is. I am currently useing gnome2.2 backported to debian 3.0. UserA: Uses startx to start an Xsession UserB: uses 'startx -- :1' to start an Xsession So, if you're using startx, you're not using GDM. :-) I would recommend turning on GDM, and using the flexiservers feature: In the System Tools menu, choose New login - it will create a new X server with a login dialogue, and lock the current X server. Well it has the same effect with gdm, (if userA logs in GDM it doesn't work) It's cool stuff. :-) That doesn't work either: - Clicking System Tools-New Login activates the screensaver on my current session and the monitor flickers like X restarted, but doesn't create a new login window. - System Tools-New Login in a nested window works fine. (Not sure what the problem is with the startx approach though - perhaps look at .xsession-errors or something to see the error logs.) Nothing looks bad - basically no errors in either .xession-errors, or XFree86.1.Log. Essentially it appears something is waiting for something else to startup - some sort of deadlock or something. nash -- Brett Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Multiple Xsessions with Gnome 2
XFree86.1.Log. Essentially it appears something is waiting for something else to startup - some sort of deadlock or something. Are you trying to log on as the same user (it doesn't sound like it)? Perhaps check the date of the other XFree86.*.log files - .1 doesn't necessarily mean :1... If I start as the same user - no problem (however this is of limited use). The log file is the correct one. (It even tells me on stderr when I start X). Basically something in gnome-session doesn;t work. My best guess is that gnome-session is trying to do something with the display :0. This will work fine for the same user as the xauth file will be fine, but if it's a different user - no luck. I had the same problem before, and I assumed it was something screwed in my xfree setup (I'd had other strange problems with X previously), so I reinstalled debian, and am now getting the same problem. So either I've recreated the same weirdness, or its a weird pacakge problem. Regards, nash -- Brett Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Steps to install printing (lprng) on new debian system
I don't know what your requirements are but have you considered cups?
The packages you'll want are cupsys and foomatic-db there will be some
dependencies that apt will solve. Configure via QT-Cups or the web
interface.
For lpr you'll want lprng then I find printtool useful to configure
(if you have a GUI)
Brett
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: I tried searching the doco, but I can not find anything on steps to
: install printing on a new debian system.
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: If it is just a matter of packages to install, which ones?
: So far I've
: chased lprng, lprngtools, lprfax, printop, ifhp and hpoj,
: but now where
: have a I managed to create a /etc/printcap.
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RE: [SLUG] Avoiding debian dependancies
get the deb for it. dpkg -i --ignore-depends=package package.deb where package in this instance would be the package you want to ignore xfree86-common for example. brett : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of : Ben Leslie : Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 2:57 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [SLUG] Avoiding debian dependancies : : : Hi all, : : I just tried to apt-get install slapd (OpenLDAP server) on a debian : production server. Debian then wants to install an xfree86-common, : which I obviously don't want on a server. : : (slapd depends on libiodbc2 depends on xlibs. xfree86-common). : : Now, I know the way I'll be using slapd doesn't *really* depend on : libiodbc2. Is there a simple way to tell apt-get this? : : (I guess I could get the source and change the : dependencies manually : but that sounds really icky.) : : Cheers, : : Benno : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
