Re: [SLUG] Task bar not working
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 21:17 +1000, Chris Allen wrote: I am using Ubuntu 10.4 Since yesterday my task bar (@ bottom of Gnome screen) has been unworkable. It is still there but is always black on black. When I minimise a window, I see it shrink and disappear into the task bar but after that I see no trace of it. It almost impossible to recall it again from the task bar. Is there any explanation / fix for this? I've seen this happen on my wife's laptop twice, with NVidia drivers and compositing turned on. Seems to be a NVidia bug to me. Turning off compositing and turning it back on again fixes it, or rebooting. These commands will disable and then reenable metacity compositing: gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager -t bool false gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager -t bool true - Jan. -- Jan Schmidt thay...@noraisin.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Compromised Linux box stories (Re: [SLUG] upgrading complicated installs
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:21 +0800, jam wrote: On Tuesday 03 June 2008 08:50:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The server had ssh access enabled via password entry and fell victim to a brute force password attack. First thanks to everyone who contributed to this interesting thread :-) Some (and this is critique :-) not criticism) had credible offers eg Mary and turning sendmail into an open relay, but many just had a BadThing happen. Daniel talks about 'brute forcing' a password: say [EMAIL PROTECTED]*()_/?] and 6 chars passwords 6**70 umm 70 * log (2) and 10**8 brute forces / sec I think you mean the much more sedate number of 70^6 combinations. At 10^8 tests per sec, that's a much scarier (70^6)/(10^8) = 1176.5 secs, or under 20 mins to check the entire password space. Fortunately, external brute-force testing of passwords doesn't typically run to anything like that many tests per second! J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to change first day of week in Gnome?
Sonia Hamilton wrote:
(Ubuntu 7.10)
The calendar that comes with Gnome (when you click the date) lists the
first day of the week as Sunday - how would I change it to Monday?
I've right clicked on stuff, looked in System, Preferences; didn't find
anything. I've also dredged thru gconf-editor - only close setting
('week_start_day') applies to Evolution.
Did you try changing it anyway? :)
The calendar in the clock applet drop-down draws its info through the
evolution-data-server, and I'm pretty sure it respects that evo gconf
key too. Mine is set to '1', and my calendar starts on a Monday.
J.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: voip/Ekiga and could not open audio channel
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 20:59 +1100, Sonia Hamilton wrote: Adam Bogacki wrote: I'm using voip on my machine (Ekiga) and all is working fine. But I notice that when I've been playing music and then try to place a call, I get an error along the lines of Could not open audio channel for audio reception. You need to set up a .asoundrc using dmix which allows multiple applications. See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Getting_several_applications_using_the_sound_card_at_the_same_time_%3F I you don't have a '/home/user/.asoundrc' create one. Cut 'n paste .. Thanks Adam. Other people have recommended I use RhythmBox (because it uses ALSA). It's a bit clunky compared to xmms - any other ALSA music players people could recommend? How about xmms? :) Preferences-Audio I/O Plugins tab - Output Plugin = ALSA. Configure-Audio device= default Uses Dmix happily here (even though dmix sucks in other ways, and we need to replace it - but that's an issue for future distro releases :) J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] The woman you buy -- and she is the least expensive -- takes a great deal of money. The woman who gives herself takes all your time. - Balzac -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OS or Linux equivalent of windows media streaming
On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 20:35 +1000, Ben Donohue wrote: Hi Slugs, I'm after a Linux equivalent of windows media streaming or windows media services. Even if I weren't a Fluendo employee, I'd point you to http://www.flumotion.com The Free (GPL) Flumotion server is focussed on Ogg/Theora/Vorbis streaming, but the commercial server does WMV/WMA. The Streaming Platform part provides hosting and bandwidth on top. Cheers, Jan -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recent SLUG Downtime
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 18:06 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY I'd like to thank Dave Kempe/Solutions First for providing the new hosting, Matthew Moor (Vice-President) for organising the erection of the server, Matthew Palmer for bringing up the new server and Peter Hardy for migrating the lists across and other configuration bits. We should also thank UTS' ProgSoc, who hosted the slug.org.au server for gratis for years, and continued to do so well after the original members that put it there moved along. Without them, maddog would have been homeless and network free a long time ago. Thanks guys! J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: pentium M series
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 13:54 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=O Plameras Architecture wise, some changes from i386 to i586: But crucially, few of these things are interesting at the kernel level. Apps can take advantage of CPU features like these regardless of the architecture the kernel was built for. The only one that really needs kernel help is MMX/SSE stuff, but that works regardless of the architecture the kernel is built for, provided it's a recent enough kernel. As long as the kernel knows about MMX/SSE, it should do the right things with the registers even if built for '386' - it's only old kernels that don't know about MMX/SSE at all that will break. AIUI, apps that want to use those instructions should technically be checking /proc/cpuinfo for the appropriate flags in order to guarantee that the kernel won't make their data disappear, but in general it's safe anyway because everyone is running new kernels that support all the MMX/SSE features of the cpus. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It all works, but it limits Linux processes to a mere 512GB of virtual address space. Such limits are irksome to the kernel developers when the hardware can do more, and, besides, somebody is likely to release a web browser or office suite which runs into that limit in the near future. - http://lwn.net/Articles/106177/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux portable game/media
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 12:11 +, Richard wrote: Hai I was looking at grabbing a Sony PSP then saw all the nasty proprietary hooks in the thing, so I put it off. Well today I saw this thing on the web http://www.gbax.com/ordergp2x.html 1. has a 720x480 res colour screen The marketing mentions that it plays 720x480 movies... but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gp2x#Specifications says it does so on a screen that's only 320x240 pixels. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Laptop sellers in Oz with preinstall Linux as an option (was: Partitioning software)
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 13:15 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: James Gray wrote: Digital Star (http://www.digitalstar.com.au) also have OS-less laptops on offer. From their main page, follow the link to BTO Notebooks or simply go here: http://www.digitalstar.com.au/_PowerNoteComparisonChart.aspx OK, they have some nice looking machines and the no OS option is $120 cheaper than windows ex-pee home. Now if only they would also pre-install Linux so I knew everything worked :-(. I own a CL50 from Digital Star. The only parts I've never had working are the SD card reader and the winmodem. I think both can be gotten to work if you care enough. The network chip is a bog-standard realtek part. It's got a centrino chipset, with Radeon 9000M (which Ubuntu supported out of the box) I'm pretty happy with the hardware, although the disk IO is slow. The screen is nice @ 1400x1050. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 5.1 passthrough
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:24 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: Hi, I have a laptop with IEC958 digital output. It uses an i810 with AC97 codec. How can I get full 5.1 channel output through the digital output? Stereo works well, by specifying ALSA device iec958 To the best of my knowledge (and I'd enjoy being corrected), you can't. The only way to get 5.1 channel output from the SPDIF/IEC958 output is to use a compressed codec, ie AC3 or DTS, which have actively-defended-patented encoders. Basically that means it's only good for streaming the content straight off a DVD to a decoder box, or decoding speakers. I believe the best you can manage in raw PCM is a 4 channel output at 48khz. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Low - mid level graphic card recommendations
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 17:31 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 15:29 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I've just had a graphics card die on me and I'm looing for a replacement. Here's what I'm after: - Easily/currently available - Less that $150 - Must have open source drivers (I dislike binary only drivers intensely) Anyone have anything to recommend? I recently picked up an ATI Radeon 9250. They're fairly new and readily available. I got mine up from EYO for... around $70 I think. There's a binary driver, but the open source driver in the x.org server has almost all of the same features. I think the only thing missing is the hardware TL support? Others can probably provide more detail. I'd be looking for a card with an R200 chipset - IMO, they're the best supported by open source drivers with hardware 3D. I'm quite happy using DRI on the Radeon Mobility 9000 in my laptop, for example. The parts the open source drivers don't have by comparison to the ATI drivers: * Pixel shader support * FS Antialias * Reported slight performance drop I think that's it. They certainly do hardware TL nicely. J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Laptop recommendations?
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 22:17 +1000, Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Michael (Micksa) Slade); - 1600x1200 display. I've been spoiled. I'd prefer something with ATI, for decent 3D graphics, but it doesn't have to be the very latest radeon or whatever. I'd just mention that from everyone I've heard, the nvidia propietry drivers really do kick arse. More than I think ati's open drivers seem to be (hurray for powerpc). To be clear, ATI don't have any open drivers, neither do Nvidia. There's the proprietary closed-source no-support-from-the-kernel-guys drivers that give you access to your nice vertex shaders etc, and there's the open source not-associated-with-ATI drivers that would love to do that if only the vendors would give us the specs to the hardware we paid for. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVD iso img - how to play?
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:48 +1000, Bill wrote: Hi, I've successfully copied a DVD as an iso image to my hard-drive, and have managed to mount it with the loopback device, but I have not been able to figure out how to get it to play in Xine. If you decrypted the contents as you copied it, then just do: xine dvd://home/bill/my-dvd-image.img If you didn't decrypt it as you went, I'm not sure libdvdread will cope with detecting that and cracking the title, although setting the env var DVDCSS_METHOD=title may help with that. J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Compatibility Issues with Windows64
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 19:03 +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: Edwin Humphries wrote: Just got some more details. There are apparently 2 concerns: One is that the Windows64 file system is yet another variant of NTFS (well, why not?) and may not be compatible with Linux. I think the concern here is in file transfer between systems, and I think they are talking about the samba-based windows network (a second option), so I was able to advise that the file system is transparent in file transfers from the windows workstation to the Linux server. 1. Even for local access, you might be able to use this driver with ndiswrapper. Work asking on the ndiswrapper mailing list. I don't know what would have given you that impression. NDIS stands for Network Driver Interface Specification. NDIS is a specific subset of the windows driver system that deals with drivers for networking adapters. That said, there has been some code from ReactOS that successfully wraps the ntfs.sys file from an MS Windows install to provide full read-write access to NTFS. I doubt that will work unmodified with the 64 bit equivalent, but may not lag too far behind it. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Annodex
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:01 +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote: Some information on Annodex which we saw recently; this is a CSIRO blurb: http://www.ict.csiro.au/topic/Apr05.htm#video Annodex is awesome technology - done in Sydney by SLUGgers. Conrad, Sylvia and Andre have done a fantastic job. Hopefully we'll be seeing more and more of it in the next few years! http://www.annodex.net/ for anyone that doesn't know what annodex is yet. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Annodex
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:31 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Jan Schmidt wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:01 +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote: Some information on Annodex which we saw recently; this is a CSIRO blurb: http://www.ict.csiro.au/topic/Apr05.htm#video Annodex is awesome technology - Maybe! The fine print is 1) for 512Mb ADSL lines, 2) It is alpha code, 3) requires glibc 2.3 Sounds like you're confusing Annodex the media indexing, annotating and accessing technology with the Annodex firefox plugin. The latter one _is_ alpha code and requires a recent glibc - whether you need ADSL depends on what media you access with it (for audio streams a dialup line will do, for video you almost always need bandwidth, Annodex or not). J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Teeny-tiny Linux Device - Your Flight of Fancy?
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 11:45 +1000, Grant Parnell wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:13:36PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: What would you do with a teeny-tiny Linux machine like this? Glue one to my ear so I can look really clever by googling on the sly. There's the i/o to think about tho... I suppose if you added a tiny 4 bit DAC and wrote an audio driver then ran a copy of festival (or something more low-tech) you'd have suitable output at least. A few simple buttons (possibly using the same GPIO pins) could be wired in for a bit of input. It's only a 55MHz cpu with limited RAM don't forget - festival isn't going to run too well on that. Mind you, I don't think I'd like 802.11b right in my ear. It's microwave frequency after all! Any intelligence gain would be negated by frying brain cells. Indeed. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Failing to install DVDStyler
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:31 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote: imagjpg.cpp:35:21: jconfig.h: No such file or directory imagjpg.cpp:37:21: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory Looks like you're missing the development packages for libjpeg. On debian/ubuntu, that'd be either libjpeg62-dev or libjpeg-mmx-dev J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: does Apache log rollover restart re-reads httpd.conf ?
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:49 +1100, Voytek wrote: quote who=Matthew Palmer On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:07:59PM +1100, Voytek wrote: if I alter httpd.conf, will the alterations get picked on log rollover restart ? As far as I can tell, the apache config will be reread on reload after a log rotation. The wisdom of relying on this course of action, however, is questionable: if you have a problem in your config, you may not have an apache server for a few hours... yes, I realize that.. however, I'm just talking about adding another vhost .conf file, not really altering apache setup it's on a couple of ocassions that restarting apache to relaod config has given me grief (there were no errors in httpd.conf, fwiw, just, shutting apache seemed to have caused unrecoverable problem.) In which case you're still better off issuing /etc/init.d/apache reload when you make the change - if it's going to have an 'unrecoverable problem', better that it do it when you're around than at some strange hour when logrotate runs and you're sleeping. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Failing to install DVDStyler
Moved back to the SLUG list On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 23:19 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote: Jan wrote On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:31 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote: imagjpg.cpp:35:21: jconfig.h: No such file or directory imagjpg.cpp:37:21: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory Looks like you're missing the development packages for libjpeg. On debian/ubuntu, that'd be either libjpeg62-dev or libjpeg-mmx-dev J. Hi Jan, I had a look and found libjpeg-devel.i386, so installed that. Now I have THIS problem (%)): * sudo ./configure make checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes *snip* g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\DVDStyler\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\dvdstyler\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\1.0\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\DVDStyler\ 1.0\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\[EMAIL PROTECTED] -DPACKAGE=\dvdstyler\ -DVERSION=\1.0\ -I. -I. -g -O2 -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk-2.4 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -DDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/dvdstyler\ -c -o xml.o `test -f 'xml.cpp' || echo './'`xml.cpp xml.cpp:754: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/xml.TPo: Permission denied * Now, I can't locate a file name 'xml.TPo', but can locate one named 'xml.Po' Any advice or assistance is, again, most appreciated. When you do 'sudo ./configure make', you are executing _2_ commands, separated by the statement. Hence you're running sudo ./configure and make - the first runs as root and creates a bunch of stuff, the second runs as a normal user and _doesn't_ have root permission to write to the directories created by configure. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders
quote who=David Fisher I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on Debian sarge. You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders. Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could prove me wrong. Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests dovecot series. http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] The woman you buy -- and she is the least expensive -- takes a great deal of money. The woman who gives herself takes all your time. - Balzac -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FOR SALE: CTTE Positions!
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:31 +1100, Robert Collins wrote: On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:24 +1100, Ken Wilson wrote: I an available for SLUG committee. Previous committee experience on various committees of voluntary organisations over the last 20 years, often as treasurer. Linux ability is far below most others on list, but committees are about organising and doing the preparation. Ken I nominate Ken for Treasurer General Committee member Seconded. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Nomination - Taryn East - Ordinary Committee Member
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 19:24 +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: I'd like to nominate Taryn East for the role of Ordinary Committee Member. I've not spoken to Taryn about this as I've lost her email address :/ but I'm hoping she won't mind a nomination out of the blue :) Taryn's an active participant on the mailing list and an avid participant around SLUGlets at the monthly meetings and I think she'd be a great asset to the SLUG community. I hope, if your life / schedule allows, you'll be willing to consider this Taryn :) Seconded. I think Taryn could be a useful addition to the SLUG committee. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Grant Parnell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 19:52 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: I'd like to nominate Grant Parnell to continue his job as secretary. Seconded -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 00:50 +1100, Robert Thorsby wrote: Let him stand -- and then insist that anyone who challenges his election point to an unequivocal, written, Law or binding Court judgement that explicitly and unambiguously states otherwise, in which case there will be (from that moment on) a casual vacancy in the Committee but all decisions made by or contributed to by LH prior thereto will stand and be binding on the members of SLUG. I agree. And given that stance on under-18 members of the committee, I would like to nominate Chris Deigan for the position of Ordinary Committee Member. Chris has been a backbone of SLUG for a couple of years as an honourary committee member - we should make it official. Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SB Live and Alsa
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 22:40 +1100, Alexander Samad wrote: Hi I am trying to get 5.1 digital sounds out of my linux box, but I have so many sliders in alsa mixer and they all seem to do strange things, but I can't seem to get 5.1 to my amp. I've actually been playing with this on my Audigy in the last week. Has any one been able to do this ? Yep. There are lots of EMU10K1 PCM EMU10K1 PCM Sending EMU10K1 PCM Routing You don't want to play with the send and routing sliders. They're actually a bitmask that specifies how to connect the various channels in the emu10k1 dsp to each other. You can only play 5.1 digital sound on an SPDIF channel in a compressed form, ie AC3 or DTS. Apparently, SPDIF doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to carry that many raw audio channels. I think it does at most 4. The upshot of this is that you can only do 5.1 channels from a DVD player like xine. To make that work, turn on the digital output from the card so that 2-channel audio is coming out your amp correctly, and then set xine to use 'AC3 passthrough' as the speaker configuration in the config dialog. Your amp should then get the compressed channel coming straight from the DVD and play it back. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Turbolinux 10
Hey, Does anyone out there have a copy of Turbolinux 10? I'd be interested in checking it out if you do and don't mind. Cheers, J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SB Live and Alsa
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 23:10 +1100, Alexander Samad wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:53:08PM +1100, Jan Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 22:40 +1100, Alexander Samad wrote: Hi I am trying to get 5.1 digital sounds out of my linux box, but I have so many sliders in alsa mixer and they all seem to do strange things, but I can't seem to get 5.1 to my amp. I've actually been playing with this on my Audigy in the last week. Has any one been able to do this ? Yep. There are lots of EMU10K1 PCM EMU10K1 PCM Sending EMU10K1 PCM Routing You don't want to play with the send and routing sliders. They're actually a bitmask that specifies how to connect the various channels in the emu10k1 dsp to each other. Okay I have a coax cable to connect to the amp ,if I turn these off then I get no sound! SPDIF should be a single coax cable link, yes. You can only play 5.1 digital sound on an SPDIF channel in a compressed form, ie AC3 or DTS. Apparently, SPDIF doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to carry that many raw audio channels. I think it does at most 4. The upshot of this is that you can only do 5.1 channels from a DVD player like xine. To make that work, turn on the digital output from the card so that 2-channel audio is coming out your amp correctly, and then set xine to use 'AC3 passthrough' as the speaker configuration in the config dialog. can you do the same with mplayer ? I believe so. Here's an example off the net that I found: mplayer -ao alsa1x:default -ac hwac3 dvd://9 Cheers Jan -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SB Live and Alsa
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 01:16 +1100, Simon Males wrote: I am trying to get 5.1 digital sounds out of my linux box, but I have so many sliders in alsa mixer and they all seem to do strange things, but I can't seem to get 5.1 to my amp. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emu10k1/emu-tools-0.9.4.tar.gz?download Once compiled: $ emu-config -d emu-tools shouldn't be needed with an recent ALSA, you can just un-mute the 'digital output' slider in alsamixer. Cheers, Jan -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slow Wireless Speed
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 11:38 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Peter Rundle Well, scp is poo for transferring files. :-) Using 100Mbit cable ethernet I can transfer the same file to the same server at 4.6MB/sec using scp. With the wireless connection, which is quoted as 108Mbit, I'm currently getting 40KB/sec. So that means it's about 500 times slower all else being equal. :-( Sure, there's craploads of overhead they don't bother mentioning, all of which is not present on wired networks. LAN wifi infrastructure is a convenience. If you're looking for performance, you're looking in the wrong place. :-) Nevertheless, 40KB/s is pretty slow. For reference I get ~550KB/s here using scp, on a laptop with a 10Mb wireless chipset talking to a 55Mb Linksys AP. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dhcpd not working
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 00:29 +1100, David wrote: I'm setting up dhcpd on Ubuntu 4.1 The client can get a lease, and ping the dhcp server, but can't get past there. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. I assume you mean that the clients can't ping other machines than the dhcp server, which is also acting as a gateway. It's no sufficient to just enable ip_forwarding - have you also set up some iptables rules for the forwarding? In this case, you'll need IP masquerading, because the client machines have non-routeable 192.168.* addresses. Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] problems getting apt-get through a firewall
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 08:04 +1100, justin randell wrote: hi all, since the network firewall was tightened where i work, i can't get apt-get to work. i can't figure out why, because i thought apt-get used ftp and http, and both of these are allowed through: I don't recognise the firewall rule syntax, so I don't know if there's anything wrong with it. apt-get should only require http and ftp as you say, so I would try using wget and ftp type rules on the commandline to check whether they work. Cheers, Jan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] free software alternative to Big Brother
quote who=Tony Green On 21/12/2004, at 3:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the sake of an alternative though, you might want to look at opennms.org. opennms has come a long way, but it's all java. Not a real problem if you've got the grunt to run it. Nagios+cricket+syslog-ng+swatch+snmp gives a great (and free) NMS You forgot Umbrella (hi Jaq!) ;) http://www.spacepants.org/src/umbrella/ J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo
quote who=Terry Collins Can someone explain this? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB* -print %p The problem is your escaping of smtpdAB* - as it is, the expression will be expanded by the caller and find will actually receive a list of matching files/dirs in the current directory. You want to put smtpdAB* in quotes, or escape the wildcard so that the string 'smtpdAB*' is passed to find, rather than the list of matching files/dirs. find /spam -name 'smtpdAB*' -print %p or find /spam -name smtpdAB\* -print %p should do the trick. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Test sorry
quote who=Michael Lake The saga of this story is that not only can't I send a particular email about geting X to work from either work (uts.edu.au) or from home, but neither can Benno or Rick who kindly tried as well. They can receive it OK. Rick was able to send it back to me OK. Rick tried indenting each line by one space but it didnt get through. I can send it to myself OK too. My conclusion is that there is something in the message that the slug anti-spam is picking up causing it to ditch my message. Yes, looks like it: Dec 12 14:04:23 2004 (4249) slug post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] discarded: SpamAssassin score was 5.7 (discard threshold is 5.5) Can you send the mail through to me? J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Test sorry
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 20:28 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test as I have been trying to post a msg here since Friday. weird. I leaves here but doesnt appear in slug. time now 8.10 pm Sunday Made it all the way to Port Macquarie Oh good, glad it arrived. I think my question about getting X running must have some rude words in it or something. It still hasn't come through again me thinks. This time I pasted the msg into a new email and tried afresh but its still disappearing ? u... They're not being held for moderation, so I'm not sure where they've gotten to. J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Test sorry
quote who=Jan Schmidt Yes, looks like it: Dec 12 14:04:23 2004 (4249) slug post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] discarded: SpamAssassin score was 5.7 (discard threshold is 5.5) Can you send the mail through to me? Looks like it is falling afoul of some over-zealous 'kill those annoying we have windows software for sale ads' spam rule. I've modded back the score on that particular rule and a couple of others until I have time to review them all properly. Can you try sending the mail again for me? Also, for future reference, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right place to hit the list admins for assistance - it makes it more likely that we won't miss it. Cheers, J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] no XP boot with ubuntu, dialup weirdness
quote who=Brad Kowalczyk Couple of questions: 1. I got my ubuntu cd's the the other day (BTW the live cd did not work for me, seemed to die at X startup, just a black screen) and promptly did an install onto a vacant partition on my HD. Everything ran smoothly, detected all my hardware and my XP installation. However despite XP being on the grub boot list it now refuses to boot. I couldn't browse my XP partition with ubuntu (can you? I couldn't find it) so I threw in Lindows live cd and all my windows data seems intact. So question is does anyone know how I may be able to fix this XP boot problem? I installed FC3 over ubuntu hoping that it might somehow fix the problem but no luck... What is the symptom of XP failing to boot? Is it getting anywhere, or hanging as soon as it starts to load the NT boot loader? If so, it's possibly the problem I ran into where the partition manager screwed up the drive geometry written into the partition table. Linux recognises the mismatch and continues, where XP dies and none of the XP recovery mechanisms fix it. If that's it, it can be repaired - just don't go running any XP 'fix boot' or XP re-installations. Apparently Fedora Core used to have the same problem, but I can't find the bug report right now. It had to do with writing an incorrect drive geometry description to the partition table. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Talks page (Re: [SLUG] talks last night)
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 16:41 +1100, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: Not a silly question at all - that's the right place to find talks. The problem is converting them takes ages, especially since the audio is coming out quite dodgy on a lot of our recordings. As a consequence, the encoded versions get converted and distributed more or less according to the amount of demand I receive. Could the talks page be updated to have a fuller list of talks, perhaps with bold for the ones that were recorded and the text if a recorded talk is not available on this page, email Jan Schmidt to request a copy of the recording? Yeah, except that would involve publicly admitting just HOW backlogged I am :) Nevertheless: http://stage.slug.org.au/talks/ J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Is there a way to tandem on to a SSH connection?
quote who=Paul Ford I am new to Linux and would like to know if I could take over another users ssh connection as a root user? My Linux box is running RedHat 7.2.1 ttysnoop should allow you to join the users login session. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas -- Arnold 'Ace' Rimmer, Red Dwarf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] talks last night
quote who=Taryn East * Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Sorry, I didn't think to turn the camera on until half way through, so I missed the talks. We've got a recording of Luke's awesome Accessibility talk though. erm, silly question - where can they all be found? the only ones listed on: http://www.slug.org.au/talks/ Are one from January and another from April - am I looking in the wrong place? Not a silly question at all - that's the right place to find talks. The problem is converting them takes ages, especially since the audio is coming out quite dodgy on a lot of our recordings. As a consequence, the encoded versions get converted and distributed more or less according to the amount of demand I receive. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas -- Arnold 'Ace' Rimmer, Red Dwarf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New SLUG member, not so new Linux user =P
On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 15:29 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:50:32 +1100 Stephen Merity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm obsessed with computer graphics (mainly 3D art/animation, and I use http://www.blender3d.org Blender, opensource 3D suite =P) . If you'd like to see some of my work, goto http://www.smerity.tk , just follow the prompts to Gallery 3D) Hey Stephen, Care to give a demo of Blender some time? Maybe a sluglet? I'd love a full length intro to Blender - I've never had the time to learn my way too far into the interface, and I'm jealous of the great results the experts get :) J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] talks last night
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 10:43 +1100, Phil Scarratt wrote: Ken Foskey wrote: I would like to thank the three people from last night. These were extremely interesting talks. We had a talk on IP telephony. This was great and the idea of a IP phone that plugs into my network for overseas calls without a computer sounds great. (Easy is good right now...) Damn! I've really gotta make it to a meeting. :( This woulda been a good one to hear. Any chance of notes being posted? Wasn't recorded anywhere by any chance?? In fact the same applies to the other two Ken's mentioned below. Keep up the good work guys!! Sorry, I didn't think to turn the camera on until half way through, so I missed the talks. We've got a recording of Luke's awesome Accessibility talk though. Thanks Ken for the write-up - it's really great to see these after the meetings :) J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] No response to bowling for December meeting
quote who=Grant Parnell I received no response to the invitation to do Tenpin Bowling for December other than jokes about various programming languages. Therefore I think people might want to do something else for the December meeting. Any suggestions? Well _I_ want to go bowling if there are other takers. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Linux DV camera
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 22:20 +1100, konrad Zielinski wrote: I'm trying to connect a DV camara to a newly built Ubuntu(2.6 kernel recompiled for 686) box without success, So far i have learned that for some reason the system that Ubuntu uses dosn't create the appropriate dev node when the raw1394 module is loaded, I have added the following to the end of my bootmisc.sh mknod /dev/raw1394 c 171 0 chown root:video /dev/raw1394 chmod 666 /dev/raw1394 The software I am trying to use is Kino and DVGrab both of which i installed from binary packages. attempts to access the camera come back with an error no camera found. I have previously used the same firewire controller to access a firewire hard drive enclosure (under mandrake) Ditto for the camera (but with a different controller). Ubuntu uses udev to build the /dev nodes, which relies on the sysfs (/sys) entries for a device being created properly. The problem is that the raw1394 driver hasn't been fully updated for 2.6 kernels - so it doesn't update sysfs properly. I'm not sure exactly what the right fix is (other than fixing the kernel modules), but I've been going with creating the device nodes manually using MAKEDEV after stopping udev. I need to stop udev, because otherwise it seems to delete the device node again immediately. sudo -s /etc/init.d/udev stop cd /dev MAKEDEV raw1394 Cheers, Jan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Building kernels [Was: Maybe trying out gentoo again]
quote who=Matthew Palmer On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:55:18PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: people who critises others but not making their own. This is a technical and idea forum and not some kind of popularity contest. You're shooting 1 for 4, Oscar, and it's not any of the last three that you've managed to hit... I don't think there's much more productive coming from this thread. Please take it to slug-chat unless you've got something on-topic to add. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Monthly Meeting: Friday, 29th October 2004
When: Friday, October 29, 19:00pm - 21:30pm Where: UTS Broadway, Building 1, Level 4, Room 06 SLUG's monthly meeting featuring talks and SLUGlets. Meetings are open to the general public, and free of charge. Please note the change in rooms: This month's meeting will be held in Building 1, Level 4, Room 06 at UTS Broadway (There is a map of UTS availible here). * ALSO please note, the room will not be available until 19:00 this month * SLUGlets will be in room 1.5.10B General Talk Stuart Guthrie: Fun with Calendars Special Interest Talk Gavin Sherry: PostgreSQL 7.5 As usual, SLUGlets will be running in another room during the 2nd half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the 2nd talk. This month SLUGlets will focus on post-installfest issues. 7:00pm: Doors Open The Usual Suspects QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me lately? + SLUG News Discussion 7:15pm: General Talk Stuart Guthrie - Fun with Calendars 8:00pm: Break Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge. 8:20pm: Split into two groups for: + Special Interest: Gavin Sherry - PostgreSQL 7.5 + SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free Software. Dinner Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head. Stuart Guthrie - Fun with Calendars Did you know that Linux Calendar programs have several significant advantages over their microsoft outlook equivalents? Fun with calendars is a short talk designed to explain a little about open standards and how to construct a calendaring groupwarish situation at your work with string, paper and some Open Source Software. Gavin Sherry - PostgreSQL 7.5 Gavin will be providing an overview of the changes and new features in the latest release of PostgreSQL Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Why can I remove a file owned by root:root ?
quote who=Michael Lake Im a bit confused. Prob something simple. -rw-r--r--1 root root 1968 Oct 27 15:25 report As mikel I can remove the file report. rm: remove write-protected regular file `report'? y done ! as its -rw-r--r-- I should not be able to write to it or remove it. Im missing some basic understanding. When you remove a file, it's the directory that's being modified to no longer have the file in it hence it's the directory permissions that matter. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Can't reboot: cannot open /mnt/etc/fstab: no such file
quote who=Adam Bogacki I noticed the error message mentioned 'timeout' so I thought I'd let the system work it through. I watched the first half of 'Pearl Harbour' (not recommended) and came back to find the logon screen waiting for me. It's twice rebooted without problems since then. I put it down to software teething problems and the unexpected arrival of an upgrade which remembers the settings of the previous user session. It threw me for a while, but I'm impressed. Urk, personally, I'd be more worried than that. I've normally only seen timeouts like that when a) The hard disk was about to die b) The disk geometry was configured incorrectly, and the kernel was trying to seek past the end of the disk c) A bug in the kernel was simulating one of the first two. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENOSIG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Update on SLUG Goonellabah roadtrip
quote who=Jan Schmidt quote who=Lindsay Holmwood The next Slug roadtrip up to Lismore was scheduled to occur on the 30th and 31st of this month. We'd managed to get a good group of people together for the roadtrip, and all seemed to be set. We've got a few definites keen on making the trip, but not enough to make the trip worth it. If you would like to go, then let me know. We should be able to organise accomodation with the GLUGgers, so all you should need is a sleeping bag. At this stage, I'm thinking of driving, so travel costs will just be time, petrol, and maybe a driving shift if you're licensed. I'm postponing the trip until a later date. One of the guys that was coming along won't be able to make it, and the SLUG meeting is on Friday as well, so I think we'll get a bigger group and have more fun if we make it a later date. Hopefully Lindsay will be well enough to join us when we go :) Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] commonwealth bank netbanking stopped support linux?
quote who=Hugh Madden Has anyone noticed that commbank's netbanking has stopped working with linux/ mozilla? I get a page not found with Linux, while it continues to work fine with windows. I always connect directly to https://www2.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/bankmain.htm and it's still working for me in firefox. Cheers, J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] c programming - structures
quote who=Benno
On Sat Oct 16, 2004 at 16:21:04 +1000, Lucas King wrote:
how does one compare two structures of the same type?
You need to either compare each element, or use memcp; eg:
if (memcmp(sin1, sin2, sizeof sin1) == 0) {
}
and memcmp isn't usually a great idea, because most structures have padding
bytes that will be uninitialised (random) data.
J.
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Re: [SLUG] Update on SLUG Goonellabah roadtrip
quote who=Lindsay Holmwood The next Slug roadtrip up to Lismore was scheduled to occur on the 30th and 31st of this month. We'd managed to get a good group of people together for the roadtrip, and all seemed to be set. We've got a few definites keen on making the trip, but not enough to make the trip worth it. If you would like to go, then let me know. We should be able to organise accomodation with the GLUGgers, so all you should need is a sleeping bag. At this stage, I'm thinking of driving, so travel costs will just be time, petrol, and maybe a driving shift if you're licensed. As I said, send me a mail if you'd like to be in our merry band. :) Unfortunately my treatment will be starting sometime around the meetup, and I don't believe that i'll be able to manage both treatment and getting up there, let alone give the five or so talks that I put myself up for. Good luck, Lindsay. I hope the treatment goes smoothly. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] User mode linux 2.6
quote who=Benno Has anyone got UML running on 2.6 series kernels? (Either with 2.6 as the host machine, or the user mode kernel) Yeah, but really haphazardly. I could run 2.4.19 happily under 2.6.3, but with 2.4.26-3um it's really flaky. For example, I'm not able to start postgres under the UML without it locking hard, but the rest of the installed woody runs ok. Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] installing amsn error
quote who=Gareth Smith Ian Wienand wrote: Does it do something that gaim doesn't? I tryed #apt-get update but it didn't seem to do much but I did some more reading and I'm gonna try #apt-get -u upgrade to upgrade all my packages. I haven't tryed gaim, but I'll try it. I thought gaim was only for AOL messanger not msn 'apt-get update' just fetches an updated list of available packages, so that when you run any of the other apt commands, it's working off the latest listings. To actually fetch update packages and install them you'd use either apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. The difference is in the logic the 2 commands use to pick the set of things to upgrade. dist-upgrade is allowed to install new packages to bring things up to date, 'upgrade' on its own will only install new versions of already installed packages. Gaim's biggest virtue is that it supports simultaneously connecting to multiple protocols and accounts. It can talk icq/aim, msn, jabber, yahoo, irc and others. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xine Colour display problem
quote who=Peter Rundle When I try to run Xine on a FC2 desktop, with xorg 16 bit display and 1152x864 the Xine display comes up with a kind of lime green test pattern with semi-horizontal black lines zig-zagged across the Xine window. It appears to play the video no problems but I can't see it. Some sort of colour table/refresh problem. (All other windows display fine) If I edit xorg.conf and drop back to 1024x768 the Xine window works perfectly. I tried to go up to 24 bit colour but the monitor/card couldn't take it. It sounds like an X server problem with the Xv output. The xvinfo command tells you about the Xv extension that xine is probably using. You might try the xshm output with 'xine -V xshm' and see if that is ok. XShm output will use more cpu, but will avoid the Xv output and might work. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xine Colour display problem
quote who=Peter Rundle Jan Schmidt wrote: You might try the xshm output with 'xine -V xshm' and see if that is ok. J. Bingo! Thanks that does the trick! So, the next thing you want is to identify whether it's a problem with your Xserver or with Xine's use of the Xv extension. If you have mplayer or gstreamer tools installed, you can try their Xv output. For example, in Gstreamer 0.8 you could try something like gst-launch-0.8 videotestsrc ! xvimagesink and to stress it a bit more gst-launch-0.8 videotestsrc ! video/x-raw-yuv,width=1440,height=1152 ! xvimagesink J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu newness
quote who=Peter Chubb I suggest you get Bach to work ... fire up a mixer and make sure that output is enabled from the CD and the volume control isn't on zero. Then you can Lizten to your heart's content. That may not be sufficient. On a lot of recent machines, the audio cable from the CD-ROM drive to the sound card is not installed. Windows Media Player uses CDDA digital extraction and then plays the music as if it were a wav file. This won't use the analog cable, and allows the visualisation effects they play (otherwise they'd have to capture the audio from the sound card). Which means that you need a CDDA based CD player to play them... which Gnome 2.8's CD player isn't, but 2.8.1's should be... the patch just missed the freeze date. Of course, this is not to say that your problem isn't just that the CD channel is turned down in your mixer :) J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENOSIG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu newness
quote who=David On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: That may not be sufficient. On a lot of recent machines, the audio cable from the CD-ROM drive to the sound card is not installed. Windows Media Player uses CDDA digital extraction and then plays the music as if it were a wav file. This won't use the analog cable, and allows the visualisation effects they play (otherwise they'd have to capture the audio from the sound card). Which means that you need a CDDA based CD player to play them... which Gnome 2.8's CD player isn't, but 2.8.1's should be... the patch just missed the freeze date. Of course, this is not to say that your problem isn't just that the CD channel is turned down in your mixer :) Thanks, Jan.. I now have both Mahler and Zeppelin. OK - you have the audio cable between your CD player and the sound card then :) Now the cute little speaker icon on the desktop shows zero and is non-functional. I don't care about that too much, but it certainly fails the Just Works test espoused by Ubuntu. A non-technical person would have no hope. That's a bit strange, I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm also trying to set up GnomeMeeting, but even though I can induce feedback using alsamixer (implying that both speakers and mike are working), GnomeMeeting's test is implacably silent :( Ditto for GnomeMeeting's video. Did you hit the space bar when 'mic' was selected to turn on the 'capture' flag? J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [activities] Re: [SLUG] University of Wollongong
quote who=Craige McWhirter On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 18:13 +1000, Ashley Maher wrote: Today an Installfest was held at the University of Wollongong. At lunch 40 participants were catered for. It is believed over 50 participants attended the day. Hopefully such a strong turnout sews the seeds of a healthy users group potentially starting up in Wollongong. There were plenty of sharp minds and enthusiasm in the turn out. Great day Ashley. It was certainly a good kickoff for such a group. Thanks you to Ashley, Greg and Daniel for lining everything up and making it happen so successfully. Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ATI Radeon, Video Out and MythTv
quote who=Jason Rennie Has anybody had any experience with the ATI Radeon and its video out capability ? I've got a Radeon 9600 VIVO and MythTV (with a couple of ht eplugins for playing stuff back) looks perfect for converting my exisiting WinXP based PC/DVD player to linux. Especially on the new radeon cards, you will have no joy with TV out and free drivers. There is an atitvout utility, but it only works on older cards. I believe, however, that the binary ATI drivers do TV out properly, and if you want to use the 3D capability of the cards, the binary driver you'll need the binary drivers, because I think the 9600 is an R300 chip. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question
quote who=Matthew Davidson Funny; I've always assumed that the system treated a directory symlink as a real directory that just happens to have exactly the same contents as some other directory. I suppose I'd never put myself in a situation to find out outherwise. No, think of it more as a http redirect that takes you to the real location. However, I maintain that's the way it _should_ work! That's the way hard links work, but they can only link within the same file system. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. - Unknown -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8
quote who=Rod Butcher CONFIG_INPUT is set to y. Kernel is 2.6.8.1, diirect from kernel.org. I've narrowed this down to : the terminal emulators (konsole, gnomeconsole, xterm) load Ok but they do not fireup bash (according to the dependencies shown on the system monitor). And these consoles are really just x11 wrappers for bash aren't they ? So... what would prevent bash running ? I'm running a homegrown 2.6.7 at the moment, on the same box, with no problems. Did you disable Unix ptys perchance? You need them to connect bash shells to their input mechanism, among other things. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
quote who=Brett Fenton umm because 99% of portable music players don't support the formats? But some do, so buy those and stop supporting software patents :) To answer the original question, I added ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main as a repository. It has a bunch of multimedia related packages that can't go in Debian for legal reasons. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENOSIG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Talk: Martin Gregory from Microsoft, Thursday August 12th
Just to clarify, the same as all our monthly meetings, this event is open to non-SLUG-members and the general public also. If you're interested, please come along. With Martin's permission, we'll also video the talk and make the recording available afterward. Cheers, Jan. quote who=Jan Schmidt Apologies for the late notice. We had some trouble sorting out a room and time to host this talk. i We are holding this talk separately to the ordinary SLUG meeting, as it doesn't clearly meet SLUG's normal talks, but we still thought that it would be of interest to some SLUG members. When: Thursday, August 12, 7:00pm - 9:30pm Location: UTS Broadway, Building 10, Level 2, Room 410 This is located in the Fairfax Building - UTS Building 10 - in Jones St on the corner of Thomas St. It is between UTS Building 1 and Wattle St. Level 2 is street level from Jones St. Synopsis: Martin Gregory has been with Microsoft for 15 years and works on the company's platform strategy. He is based in Sydney. Martin will be joining us to talk about what Microsoft has learned from the Open Source community, the feedback they have received from various players in the industry, including customers, partners and developers and Microsoft's view of Open Source. Martin is keen to hear your views on the Open Source versus commercial software debate and the key concerns IT decision makers face, including total cost of ownership, security and sharing source code. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] stoping/restarting ipchains firewall: OK from remote access ?
quote who=Voytek to test whether it's my own ipchains blocking it, can I just do this over ssh: service ipchains stop [try accessing] service ipchains start as the machine is remote to me, and, I'd rather not upset it, is issueing 'service ipchains stop / service ipchains start' OK to do over shh, or, can I screw something up ? It depends entirely on the changes that you've made - it's entirely possible for you to lock yourself out of ssh access to the machine, in which case you'll have to get to the console to fix it. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Talk: Martin Gregory from Microsoft, Thursday August 12th
Tonight SLUG hosted the talk from Martin Gregory - MS Australia's Platform Strategy Manager. He wasn't comfortable with recording the proceedings, so unfortunately there is no video footage available. There was some interesting discussion, but I don't think I really learnt anything new. I hope other people got some more insight from it, or (even better) if Martin got more insight into what our attendees don't like about MS. A pity that he wasn't able to provide official comment on the issues that I really wanted to hear about, like MS, Mono and patents assertion. In the end, I think I've walked away feeling like MS and Open Source people really don't connect on a fundamental level that makes genuine attempts at communication go awry. Martin's presentation included of a bunch of information from the 'get the facts' campaign, which a few people in the audience hadn't seen. I (and others) tried to convey that for us, those numbers are irrelevant - we don't pick Linux for the financial reasons, it's about the Freedom. I was really hoping for a more meaningful conversation than an MS sales pitch, and I think we got some of that by way of questions from the floor, which was good. Wandered over Shared Source, monopolies, standards of behaviour for market dominating companies, commercialisation of Open Source, interoperability and other stuff in the course of the dialogue. If people have other questions about the event, let me know. I'm off to bed. *yawn* J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Running Gnome in Xnest
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:55:08 +0100 (IST) Dave Airlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome-session I think is the command.. Yeah, tried that but it doesn't seem to be everything. For instance, clicking on the background doesn't bring up menu as it should. Which sounds like Nautilus isn't running - it is responsible for drawing the icons on the desktop and providing the root window popup menu. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homer: No TV and No Beer make Homer something something Marge: Go Crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! rrrarrgghar! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Talk: Martin Gregory from Microsoft, Thursday August 12th
Apologies for the late notice. We had some trouble sorting out a room and time to host this talk. i We are holding this talk separately to the ordinary SLUG meeting, as it doesn't clearly meet SLUG's normal talks, but we still thought that it would be of interest to some SLUG members. When: Thursday, August 12, 7:00pm - 9:30pm Location: UTS Broadway, Building 10, Level 2, Room 410 This is located in the Fairfax Building - UTS Building 10 - in Jones St on the corner of Thomas St. It is between UTS Building 1 and Wattle St. Level 2 is street level from Jones St. Synopsis: Martin Gregory has been with Microsoft for 15 years and works on the company's platform strategy. He is based in Sydney. Martin will be joining us to talk about what Microsoft has learned from the Open Source community, the feedback they have received from various players in the industry, including customers, partners and developers and Microsoft's view of Open Source. Martin is keen to hear your views on the Open Source versus commercial software debate and the key concerns IT decision makers face, including total cost of ownership, security and sharing source code. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What Debian dev package do I need to get gd.h ?
quote who=Simon Wong On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 14:09, Michael Lake wrote: GD.xs:7:16: gd.h: No such file or directory OK so I need a dev package that will contain the gd.h file. I have searched using apt-cache search libgd | grep dev and there are many possibilities. You can go to packages.debian.org and search for gd.h within packages. http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gd.hsearchmode=searchfilescase=insensitiveversion=testingarch=i386 My guess is libgd2-xpm-dev or if you like libgd2-noxpm-dev. Another option is to configure auto-apt and use it to search the entire Contents list of packages. auto-apt search gd.h usr/include/gd.h libdevel/libgd-gif1-dev,oldlibs/libgd-noxpm-dev, oldlibs/libgd-xpm-dev,libdevel/libgd2-noxpm-dev,libdevel/libgd2-xpm-dev Also, even though it's a bit insane, I have been known to compile things (such as all of gnome) inside an auto-apt session in order to let it prompt me for every possible dependency that the packages are searching for. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [activities] Wireless fest - 14 Aug 2004 - Postponed for 5 weeks
quote who=Dean Hamstead doesnt it fall under slugs PLI? If it's a SLUG event, it sure does. I have no problem with making it an event run by Richard, head of the SLUG wireless SIG. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts
quote who=Alan L Tyree On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:10:11 +1000 Chris Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP From /var/log/messages: Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK -- Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK -- Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9), pid 7234 us er 'alant' So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK -- every 20 min. I don't seem to have any documentation on gconf. No, that's gconf shutting down BECAUSE you've logged out and there is no longer any clients. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENOSIG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and X forwarding woes.
quote who=Richard Heycock Can anyone shed any light on this as I am going completely mad! Make sure that xbase-clients is installed on the machine you're ssh'ing into - xauth is required on the destination machine. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] convert video formats
quote who=Kevin Waterson I wish to convert a mp4 to mpeg2 or avi. Is there any linux based tools for this? Take a look at: http://www.gstreamer.net (GStreamer) http://zebra.fh-weingarten.de/~transcode/ (Transcode) http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html (MEncoder) Cheers, J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] C pointer allocation
quote who=Rajnish Tiwari
In C, I have the following declaration:
int foo()
{
char* bar;
};
If unitialised, what the the value of variable bar ?
Will it get initialised to 0 or be a random value ?
Is the value allocated at runtime or compile time ?
It will be essentially a random value, but often 0.
C won't do any initialisation for you, but if it's the first time your
process has used that particular piece of stack, the kernel will
have initialised it to 0.
If you need a variable to have a particular value in C, always initialise it
explicitly.
J.
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Re: [SLUG] linux laptop shopping
quote who=Simon Males Within the next four weeks, I wish to be the proud owner of a laptop. Currently my target price is currently $2500. I do not want centrino wireless tech because I plan to do some war driving and already have PCMCIA card with the appropriate pigtails etc, further there is limited linux support (centrino models seem to have lower spec CPU compared to non-centrino models). I bought a CL50 from www.digitalstar.com.au in October last year, and it got stolen. I liked it enough that I replaced it with the same model :) A note on Centrino - the clock rate is lower, but you get higher instructions-per-cycle... so a Centrino 1.6G benchmarks somewhere between P4 2.2G and P4 2.4G. Points in favour of the CL50 for me: * Centrino means better battery life * Good Linux support for most of the hardware - the only things which don't really work are 'suspend/resume (crappy on most new hardware) and the integrated SD reader. * digitalstar will sell it for $150 cheaper without OS. * It has firewire. * Radeon 9000M video chipset means there are good open source drivers available (unlike NVidia). * Has a 15.1 1400x1050 screen * $2500 Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (walkman) device that plays ogg files?
quote who=Richard Neal eeer wasn't there an article recently on slashdot saying the cpu in the iPOD doesn't have enough grunt to do ogg even if it could... The earlier models, yes. It was followed by a rebuttal from Monty (@xiph.org) that they'd had ivorbis working on lower spec cpu's just fine, and he reckoned it would work. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came for the quality. I stayed for the freedom. -- Sean Neakums -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] remote desktop on linux accessing windows xp
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble If this is for anything but casual use, and particularly over a slow network, Citrix works a treat. There's a Linux client, though it's not easy to find on their web site. I used it while in Sydney to access my work systems in London from a very underpowered laptop. Worked a treat! And oh so open and cheap (...not)! J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. - Unknown -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless fest - 14 Aug 2004
quote who=Jeff Waugh Cool! (Cc'ing activities, the new festies, so the ctte can put it up on the SLUG website...) festies forwards to activities. Your duplicate messageid killer has turned against you! J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] no debsig/codefest?
On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 19:14 +1000, Del wrote: What happened to everyone else? Sorry you didn't find us Del, we were definitely there. Lots of good hackery was done. I'll try and remember to throw my contact number on future announcements for people to call if they're having trouble finding the place. Cheers, J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] The woman you buy -- and she is the least expensive -- takes a great deal of money. The woman who gives herself takes all your time. - Balzac -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SLUG Codefest (and Debian RC bug squish): Sat 29th May, University of Sydney
quote who=Matthew Palmer On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 02:20:59PM +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: -- Where -- Lab 108, School of Electrical and Information Engineering, University of Sydney (Camperdown/Darlington campus -- the main one). That's the same room we were in last time, isn't it? I believe so, yes. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Rhythmbox - GStreamer osssink- Alsa - snd-intel8x0.. Something here is crackling...
quote who=Jordan Wightman And I know (well, think I know..) that the Alsa OSS emulation is working correctly (muine, xmms, mplayer all work with OSS stuff). So. What's happening? Does anyone know? I've looked around for similar problems, but haven't found them. Unfortunately, alsasink was pretty broken in the 0.6 series GStreamer, and not helped by the terrible quality of the i8x0 sound hardware (I have the same chipset :-/) It's unlikely to be fixed until the new stable 0.8 debs make it into debian. I know the debs are built, but not why they're not in unstable yet. You may have more luck using esdsink with that soundcard, or harassing the package maintainer to finish off his 0.8 debs. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] cebit and fta
quote who=Ashley Maher G'day, interesting criticism of loose wording in FTA, with respect to digital media. http://www.cebit.com.au/html/news_4_art_5_prereg.cfm And of course, as Pia posted the other day and from Rusty's talk: http://linux.org.au/fta/ J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Dear SLUG members, After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. Ordinarily, these licenses are $699 for a uniprocessor server, and $199 per Linux desktop. As a special benefit for SLUG members, the reduced rate of $698 per server and $198 per desktop is now available. As many of you know, SCO have recently revealed that several lines of SCO header files appear to have leaked into the Linux kernel, giving them ownership of the entire code base. As such, the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux is now required in order to legally use a Linux system. SLUG is very pleased to provide its members with the opportunity to become SCOSource compliant, and the boss of SCO Australia and and New Zealand, Kieran O'Shaughnessy, is reported to be just this side of ecstatic at the opportunity to bring in some sales. In order to assist SLUG members with taking advantage of this deal, we've provided SCO Australia and New Zealand with a complete list of all our members, and they'll be in touch with everyone soon! Regards, Jan Schmidt SLUG President. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] stibbons Yeah. The whole climax thing would make much more sense if I'd paid attention. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second that You can't second that, you're not a former committee member AFAIK! I'm afraid you'll have to propose your own motion to distance yourself. J. On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Jan Schmidt wrote: After some lengthy negotiations, the Sydney Linux Users Group committee are pleased to announce the availability of the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux at a reduced rate for SLUG members. As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came for the quality. I stayed for the freedom. -- Sean Neakums -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry forgot to include sluglist Hmmm Didn't /. have something in about IBM filing for a decloratory judgment in the SCO case. Where the court will state that IBM didn't infringe on SCO's copyright through any linux activity. If IBM wins that case then SCO's license would be null envoid. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong. Yes, IBM have filed for a declaratory judgement in the SCO-IBM contract dispute. Despite the ample evidence that the very worthy www.groklaw.net has compiled, I don't think anyone can say yet what the courts WILL state. After all, both the Linux kernel and the SCO source trees were written in the VERY SAME CHARACTER SET, which is clear evidence to me that there may be copying going on. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas -- Arnold 'Ace' Rimmer, Red Dwarf -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [activities] Re: [SLUG] New Membership Benefit
quote who=Mary Gardiner On Thu, Apr 01, 2004, Peter Chubb wrote: Please note the date on the header. It's April 1. Good grief. However that does bring up another point. What is SLUG's privacy policy? *Can* the committee sell the membership lists to earn some lucre? SLUG's been in need of a privacy policy for ages: there is none at present. Yup. We're still looking for someone that knows the appropriate jargon to write it up correctly. My summation of my stance is: SLUG takes the privacy of its members and mailing list subscribers very seriously. Personal details are only collected to meet legal requirements and allow correct notifications of AGM and SGM or other official SLUG business. At no stage will SLUG be selling or making available the details of members without their permission. Details of the mailing list subcriptions are available to the volunteer list administrators, chosen by the SLUG committee, and email addresses can obviously be collected by anyone subscribed. Subscribers concerned about this are probably best off using ficticious details when subscribing to the list. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Any one running mytv?
quote who=DE LUCA Ben Does any one on the list have a mythtv setup? I have a broken one. I haven't been able to get it going anywhere near satisfactorily, so I went back to using crontab. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Any one running mythtv?
quote who=DE LUCA Ben HUH? That is to say, I tried setting up mythtv. It downloads the TV timetables from ebroadcast.com.au and puts them in its database, which was a reasonable amount of effort on its own. I haven't, however, actually been able to get it to record anything, so it's on the backburner. I may look at it again later, but for now I've gone back to putting an entry in the cron tables each time I want the computer to record something. Is that any clearer? J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you been half-asleep? Have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name... -Kermit the Frog (Rainbow Connection) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Intel release Centrino wireless driver
quote who=Simon Wong On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 14:35, Jan Schmidt wrote: P.S. It appears to still require a limited-license binary firmware, and doesn't have a lot of features finished yet, but it's a step upward from having to load the windows driver using ndiswrapper. ndiswrapper works fairly well though for basic infrastructure connections (I used it at LCA2004 with NO problems). Yeah, same. It works pretty well. A few hiccups with WEP, but otherwise good. I hope this project progresses further and faster though... I wish that it didn't have the binary firmware portion, although I can understand why Intel chose to do things that way. Did you try it out? Actually, I got distracted putting out a new gst-editor release and forgot to. How did it compare against ndiswrapper? Here's the cut and paste from the website, seemingly saying that it should be ok for unencrypted links if there are no errors encountered :) What it does: * Build (tested in 2.4.23-25, and 2.6.1-3) * Initialize the firmware * Scan and associate * Limited support of iw* tools * Infrastructure mode * Dynamically load the binary firmware image from /etc/firmware/ipw2100-1.0.fw * Fragmentation (Tx and Rx) What it doesn't do: * AdHoc mode * WEP * Restart the firmware after a 'fatal interrupt' received. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Source Software: Free as in Free Speech, not Free Beer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Intel release Centrino wireless driver
For people who have an Intel PRO2100 wireless chipset, the driver from Intel is now available. http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ I'll try this out tonight. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Intel release Centrino wireless driver
quote who=Jan Schmidt For people who have an Intel PRO2100 wireless chipset, the driver from Intel is now available. http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ I'll try this out tonight. P.S. It appears to still require a limited-license binary firmware, and doesn't have a lot of features finished yet, but it's a step upward from having to load the windows driver using ndiswrapper. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Gnome 2.6 Release RSN
A great (p)review of the upcoming Gnome 2.6 release, due on March 22nd. http://www.clai.net/sayamindu/GNOME-2.6/GNOME_2_6.html J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants Pants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. Lovely Pants, wonderful Pa-ants. (Shut up! Bloody Vikings.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [activities] Re: [SLUG] [Computerbank] Call for assistance
quote who=Peter Hardy How do the committee and others feel about throwing some money in a worthwhile direction? Dan asked if we would like to make a donation in the form of sponsoring the sausage sizzle tomorrow. (ALERT: CBNSW event tomorrow, see http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/03/msg00061.html for details) I think it sound like a great idea, so I vote yes. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Panic -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination: Sarah Webster
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson I'd like to nominate Sarah Webster for the position of Treasurer! Seconded. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Committee Nomination: Jaime Hemmett
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson I'd like to nominate Jaime Hemmett for the position of Treasurer! Seconded. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils: people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing. -Tom Dreesen signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Nomination: President
quote who=Craige McWhirter Jan Schmidt You've done a good job Jan, give it another tilt. Thanks, Craige. Acccepted. I'm keen to remain on SLUG committee and ensure that SLUG retains the friendly atmosphere it has grown up with, and that it continues to foster and support the Open Source community within Sydney. I'm looking forward to furthering the policy we've started in the last 6 months to open up the committee discussions and make it easier for interested members to contribute without having to be on the committee itself. Cheers, Jan. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] who wrote the most code?
quote who=Mary Gardiner On Tue, Feb 24, 2004, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Robert Collins wrote: It's simpler than that I think... I hit reply-to-all as reflex - there's no reply to list icon in evolution. ;) though there is a reply to list menu action... i'd file a bug. Fixed in 1.5, according to Jan. It's the dammit-they-fixed-it-in-unstable bind. Here's my patch for /usr/share/evolution/1.4/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml to add reply-to-list as a keybinding to evo 1.4. ctrl-l is the new keybinding (already in 1.5) J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Darl McBride had his way, he would have banned marriage too, because it obviously is against the remunerative interests of prostitutes - Bruce Perens --- evolution-mail-message.xml.orig 2004-02-17 14:35:25.0 +1100 +++ evolution-mail-message.xml 2004-02-17 14:35:42.0 +1100 @@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ cmd name=MessageReplyList _tip=Compose a reply to the mailing list of the selected message - accel=/ + accel=*Control*l/ cmd name=MessageReplySender _tip=Compose a reply to the sender of the selected message -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ATTN: thaytan.. [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]
quote who=Conrad Parker On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 01:35:28PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 01:45, Jan Schmidt wrote: Hi Rob, =20 There's a new speex file at http://masher.homeip.net/~jan/down/robc- arch.spx that you can fetch. Cool. So how do I get an ogg file from that? The ogg file you did before was ok in quality - but too short ;). an ogg vorbis file may be about 10x the size of a speex file, so you may prefer to simply use the speex file directly. Also re-encoding from speex to [anything] ogg vorbis will produce terrible quality. I ended up producing a new ogg/vorbis file from the original wav, at quite a low bitrate, which still produced acceptable quality because the original is a voice only recording. (or use sweep to do these with a gui :) ... as soon as sweep supports loading a 70 minute file without consuming all of swap :) J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came for the quality. I stayed for the freedom. -- Sean Neakums -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Compiere
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 11:52 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 15:14, Hal Ashburner wrote: Any thoughts on Sourceforge in general? Slow, too much promotion and advertisement clutter, difficult to use, stupid forums that don't map to mailing lists. But nevertheless providing an invaluable place to stash code and collabarate without having to pay for the bandwidth. To be honest, I've never thought it was hard to navigate, or that they had too much advertising. I will admit to being frustrated by the poor performance of their anonymous CVS servers and the fact that promised upgrades have never arrived. As someone that's used sourceforge for a few projects though, the logged-in-developer experience is better than the anonymous one. J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
