Re: [SLUG] Email line length
Martin == Martin Visser martinvisse...@gmail.com writes: Martin On 11 July 2014 08:04, Peter Chubb pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au Martin wrote: At the moment it's only a few senders, plus many spammers (which I ignore anyay, after reporting them) Peter C Martin it was a bit of an effort with Gmail on Chrome (on Windows), Martin but I refrained from top posting (but left the HTML) ;-) Martin Do you really report all scammers, or only special ones that Martin are particularly evil or obnoxious? And who do you report them Martin to? When I'm aboard I occasionally trawl through spam mail Martin headers to ascertain the malevolent mail relays or sources, Martin but despite numerous mails to ab...@dumbcompany.com or the Martin like I think I have only ever had one thank you for me being a Martin net vigilante, Even my work's CERT or the AUS-CERT, Fair Martin TRading, seem relatively non-interested unless it is a Martin serious attempt at extortion or fraud. I use spamcop.net. It anonymises, and forwards a spam report tot he appropriate person, and updates a score card that it then populates a DNS blacklist from. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email line length
On 3 Sep 2014, at 1:52 pm, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Martin == Martin Visser martinvisse...@gmail.com writes: Martin On 11 July 2014 08:04, Peter Chubb pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au Martin wrote: At the moment it's only a few senders, plus many spammers (which I ignore anyay, after reporting them) Peter C Martin it was a bit of an effort with Gmail on Chrome (on Windows), Martin but I refrained from top posting (but left the HTML) ;-) I use a plugin for may mac mail.app that helps reformat to stop top-posting. I also have an inbuilt muscle memory that stops me typing beyond 80 chars per line. no matter what editor I use. Perhaps there is a plugin that will do the wrapping as you want? It helps that I used PINE now for nearly 20 years and still do when it suits. rachel — Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@exemail.com.au IT consulting, security, programming The more an answer costs, the more respect it carries. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email line length
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:30:20AM +1000, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: I'm seeing more and more emails that have incredibly long lines. I'm confused. You mean a single LF-terminated line is used for the whole paragraph? Like this (112 characters)? I can of course word-wrap, but that breaks quoting, I'm using mutt, and the lines wrap around on the terminal but when I quote them there's only a single ' ' used, which is quite alright. I usually follow the sender's style and so if I'm quoting a substantial chunk of text from a single line then I need only one ' ' anyway. I'm assuming this is a Windows and Mac thing. Is there any setting I can get the senders to tweak that will label emails as `format=flowed'? Asking senders to change the way they email is usually fruitless. I find it's generally more of a problem for Windows users receiving my email, where I put in the line breaks myself (such as this paragraph). Their mail clients automatically flow the lines together to fit their terminal width, which may not be what I want if I'm pre-formatting the text, such as a list: - a - b - c I'm told their clients turn off auto flowing if a line starts with at least 3 spaces, so to prevent them seeing -a -b -c I will do this: - a - b - c Or even this: - a - b - c Given the wide variety of ways mail clients display and create email messages, desired formatting could be preserved by marking up the message with HTML, but on the other hand HTML email as it's usually used is extremely evil and forget I even mentioned it. Nick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email line length
Nick == Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net writes: Nick On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:30:20AM +1000, Nick pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: I'm seeing more and more emails that have incredibly long lines. Nick I'm confused. You mean a single LF-terminated line is used for the whole $ Yes -- exactly like that (which appear5s in my client as a line of 80 chars then a $ sign at the end to indicate there's more to scroll). I can of course word-wrap, but that breaks quoting, Nick I'm using mutt, and the lines wrap around on the terminal but Nick when I quote them there's only a single ' ' used, which is Nick quite alright. I usually follow the sender's style and so if I'm Nick quoting a substantial chunk of text from a single line then I Nick need only one ' ' anyway. I'm more concerned with getting quoted email and resending it with more quotes. RFC2646 has a solution --- it's `format=flowed', which says 1. Word wrap to fit screen 2. Lines starting with one or more chars are quotes, so mark each in display as a quotation I'm assuming this is a Windows and Mac thing. Is there any setting I can get the senders to tweak that will label emails as `format=flowed'? Nick Asking senders to change the way they email is usually Nick fruitless. At the moment it's only a few senders, plus many spammers (which I ignore anyay, after reporting them) Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email line length
On 11 July 2014 08:04, Peter Chubb pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: At the moment it's only a few senders, plus many spammers (which I ignore anyay, after reporting them) Peter C it was a bit of an effort with Gmail on Chrome (on Windows), but I refrained from top posting (but left the HTML) ;-) Do you really report all scammers, or only special ones that are particularly evil or obnoxious? And who do you report them to? When I'm aboard I occasionally trawl through spam mail headers to ascertain the malevolent mail relays or sources, but despite numerous mails to ab...@dumbcompany.com or the like I think I have only ever had one thank you for me being a net vigilante, Even my work's CERT or the AUS-CERT, Fair TRading, seem relatively non-interested unless it is a serious attempt at extortion or fraud. Regards, Martin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Email line length
Hi Folks,. I'm seeing more and more emails Content-Tyoe: text/plain charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-encoding: quoted-printable that have incredibly long lines. There is no `format=flowed' in that content-type. I can of course word-wrap, but that breaks quoting, and it's a bit difficulty to swap between turning it on and off -- and I get patches throught the email that should definitely not be wrapped. I'm assuming this is a Windows and Mac thing. Is there any setting I can get the senders to tweak that will label emails as `format=flowed'? Or should I give up, and change my email client to word-wrap somewhere sensible, and attempt to turn that off for emails where plain text formatting is important? Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email line length
What client are you using Peter? N/ On 10/07/14 11:30, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Hi Folks,. I'm seeing more and more emails Content-Tyoe: text/plain charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-encoding: quoted-printable that have incredibly long lines. There is no `format=flowed' in that content-type. I can of course word-wrap, but that breaks quo/ting, and it's a bit difficulty to swap between turning it on and off -- and I get patches throught the email that should definitely not be wrapped. I'm assuming this is a Windows and Mac thing. Is there any setting I can get the senders to tweak that will label emails as `format=flowed'? Or should I give up, and change my email client to word-wrap somewhere sensible, and attempt to turn that off for emails where plain text formatting is important? Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
