[SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
I'm conscious that I haven't acknowledged quite a few suggestions that people have made in response to my question. I apologise for that. I won't have a chance to get back to this problem till Saturday and that's what's made me tardy. Thank you to everyone for their suggestions. I'll try to absorb them on Saturday. Leslie -- To see papers I've written on, among other things, literary allusions in Australian reasons for judgment, start here: http://ssrn.com/author=1164057 To see photos I've taken of, among other things, Sydney, then and now, start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23623...@n03/sets/72157604225021655/ -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 08:52:38PM +1100, Bruce wrote: > You might like to try a live distro, such as PCLINUXOS, with which I have no > problems mounting "foreign" drives. Basically, the live distro runs from the > CD and you muck around with mount arguments (someone else may have a more > structured approach here) until it can read the drives. Once you have that > its pretty easy to copy precious stuff to a USB drive or etc. > > I have used this several times to do exactly that. It seems that the live > distros are better placed to do this than installed systems. If you're going to use a live cd he might as well use the fedora live/rescue disk. Re lvm well I've found it it be pretty useful. It's not that complicated, and you can selectively mirror more fine-grainedly which I like. The issue here is lack of backups, not so much anything else. Sorry to be blunt, but I've had the same (actually worse) situation (lost about 8 months worth of baby photos) and have been cursing myself ever since. EVERYBODY BACK UP NOW. -- (but read Mary's note/presentation too) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been in Sydney so if you have solved the problem already just ignore this. If you have an older machine it should be pata which means that the CD/DVD will probably be on a separate pata connection. If so you could just connect both HDDs in place of the CD/DVD using the cable from the dead machine. An alternative would be to replace the HDD in the good machine with the two HDDs in the dead one using an ide cable with a double connection(the one from the dead machine probably will be) and boot the machine. you could then copy the data you want to memory sticks. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJmM6UybPcBAs9CE8RArRfAJ91Wn65T2pjGkihKWPOcU/UO/4/mgCgiEB0 b0DVv+27G7ONrbDtuV+27/A= =OHTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
On Saturday 14 February 2009 10:00:06 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > Thanks for replying so quickly, Jake. > > After posting, I kept looking. I found a document on the web called > "Accessing a Fedora Logical Volume from Ubuntu". > > You were right about the need to install software. I did. > > The document next told me to load the dm-mod module. I did. > > It next told me to run vgscan. I did. > > I was told that all physical volumes for the volume group VolGroup00 > couldn't be found. That confirms your point about needing both disks > connected. > > I think I might get a second gadget and see what happens when both > physical volumes comprising the logical volume group are connected. > > I think that's my best shot, because I haven't got a clue about how I > might get the CPU fan on computer A going again. If I knew that, I would > also have known enough not to accept the default installation in Fedora > 9, in so far as it used LVM!! Unless you are lucky AND have an older mobo ie tiny heatsink and fan, the dead fan machine is irretrievably dead, mobo and cpu. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
On Saturday 14 February 2009 10:00:06 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > Computer A, an old computer, was running Fedora 9. It had two hard > drives. Unawares, when I installed Fedora 9, I set things up using > Logical Volume Management. > > Computer A will no longer boot up. I suspect it has something to do with > the fact that the fan over the CPU doesn't run. > > I got computer B, another old computer, going, running Ubuntu 8.10. It > has a single hard drive and no facility to add a second. > > I hoped to be able to get data off the two old hard drives, in > particular, photographs. I got a gadget that allowed me to plug an IDE > drive into a USB port. I removed one of the old drives from computer A > and attached it to computer B via the gadget. > > When I run fdisk -l on computer B, I'm told that the attached drive is > sdb1. > > However, I can't mount sdb1. When I try, I get the message "unknown > filesystem type 'LVM2_member'". > > Does that mean that there's no way for me to get the data from computer > A's drives to computer B? > > Thanks for reading this. Leslie, being burnt by the absolute bizareness of some Dells I say this oh so softly ... a) Don't be silly b) Connect both A drives on an IDE cable, one as master one as slave if you had not already configured them so to (presumably) the single port on B c) Put them on the table or on a book, whatever. If you don't have 2 power cables, use the power supply from A Turn on and off both supplies at the same time (but don't be tragically exact) Now 50% chance B will boot from the A disks, if not use your favorite boot disk. To put this in perspective this is a 1 hour task for me Now the sage words: Until you can use your stats math to show that you need 20 (odd) bods in a room before 2 share a birthday, accept LVM is silly !!! Play with it, use it as appropriate, but do not rely on it !!! If the mechanical drudgery is too much heed Marys words about backups and never use LVM. Go away older wiser and sadder. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:25:08PM +1100, Leslie Katz wrote: > Thanks for replying so quickly, Jake. [snip] > > I think that's my best shot, because I haven't got a clue about how I > might get the CPU fan on computer A going again. If I knew that, I would > also have known enough not to accept the default installation in Fedora > 9, in so far as it used LVM!! if its only to get the stuff of the drives. open the case leave it open - maybe get an external house fan and point it at the open case (although with the temp right now it might not be a problem) and just turn it on, should last long enough to start up and copy the files over > > Thanks again, > > Leslie [snip] > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- "I don't have to accept their tenants. I was trying to convince those college students to accept my tenants. And I reject any labeling me because I happened to go to the university." - George W. Bush 02/23/2000 Today signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
On Friday 13 February 2009 15:25:08 Leslie Katz wrote: > Thanks for replying so quickly, Jake. > > After posting, I kept looking. I found a document on the web called > "Accessing a Fedora Logical Volume from Ubuntu". > > You were right about the need to install software. I did. > > The document next told me to load the dm-mod module. I did. > > It next told me to run vgscan. I did. > > I was told that all physical volumes for the volume group VolGroup00 > couldn't be found. That confirms your point about needing both disks > connected. > > I think I might get a second gadget and see what happens when both > physical volumes comprising the logical volume group are connected. > > I think that's my best shot, because I haven't got a clue about how I > might get the CPU fan on computer A going again. If I knew that, I would > also have known enough not to accept the default installation in Fedora > 9, in so far as it used LVM!! > > Thanks again, > > Leslie > > Jake Anderson wrote: > > Leslie Katz wrote: > >> Computer A, an old computer, was running Fedora 9. It had two hard > >> drives. Unawares, when I installed Fedora 9, I set things up using > >> Logical Volume Management. > >> > >> Computer A will no longer boot up. I suspect it has something to do > >> with the fact that the fan over the CPU doesn't run. > >> > >> I got computer B, another old computer, going, running Ubuntu 8.10. > >> It has a single hard drive and no facility to add a second. > >> > >> I hoped to be able to get data off the two old hard drives, in > >> particular, photographs. I got a gadget that allowed me to plug an > >> IDE drive into a USB port. I removed one of the old drives from > >> computer A and attached it to computer B via the gadget. > >> > >> When I run fdisk -l on computer B, I'm told that the attached drive > >> is sdb1. > >> > >> However, I can't mount sdb1. When I try, I get the message "unknown > >> filesystem type 'LVM2_member'". > >> > >> Does that mean that there's no way for me to get the data from > >> computer A's drives to computer B? > >> > >> Thanks for reading this. > >> > >> Leslie > > > > You need to install the stuff to handle LVM in ubuntu, as i recall it > > doesn't come with it by default. > > if you spanned the LVM over both disks you will probably need to have > > both of them connected to use the volume effectively. > > > > If you can get the fan spinning again it'd probably be enough to get > > the other one to boot. > > -- > To see papers I've written on, among other things, literary allusions in > Australian reasons for judgment, start here: http://ssrn.com/author=1164057 > > To see photos I've taken of, among other things, Sydney, then and now, > start here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/23623...@n03/sets/72157604225021655/ > -- You might like to try a live distro, such as PCLINUXOS, with which I have no problems mounting "foreign" drives. Basically, the live distro runs from the CD and you muck around with mount arguments (someone else may have a more structured approach here) until it can read the drives. Once you have that its pretty easy to copy precious stuff to a USB drive or etc. I have used this several times to do exactly that. It seems that the live distros are better placed to do this than installed systems. hth bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
Thanks for replying so quickly, Jake. After posting, I kept looking. I found a document on the web called "Accessing a Fedora Logical Volume from Ubuntu". You were right about the need to install software. I did. The document next told me to load the dm-mod module. I did. It next told me to run vgscan. I did. I was told that all physical volumes for the volume group VolGroup00 couldn't be found. That confirms your point about needing both disks connected. I think I might get a second gadget and see what happens when both physical volumes comprising the logical volume group are connected. I think that's my best shot, because I haven't got a clue about how I might get the CPU fan on computer A going again. If I knew that, I would also have known enough not to accept the default installation in Fedora 9, in so far as it used LVM!! Thanks again, Leslie Jake Anderson wrote: Leslie Katz wrote: Computer A, an old computer, was running Fedora 9. It had two hard drives. Unawares, when I installed Fedora 9, I set things up using Logical Volume Management. Computer A will no longer boot up. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the fan over the CPU doesn't run. I got computer B, another old computer, going, running Ubuntu 8.10. It has a single hard drive and no facility to add a second. I hoped to be able to get data off the two old hard drives, in particular, photographs. I got a gadget that allowed me to plug an IDE drive into a USB port. I removed one of the old drives from computer A and attached it to computer B via the gadget. When I run fdisk -l on computer B, I'm told that the attached drive is sdb1. However, I can't mount sdb1. When I try, I get the message "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'". Does that mean that there's no way for me to get the data from computer A's drives to computer B? Thanks for reading this. Leslie You need to install the stuff to handle LVM in ubuntu, as i recall it doesn't come with it by default. if you spanned the LVM over both disks you will probably need to have both of them connected to use the volume effectively. If you can get the fan spinning again it'd probably be enough to get the other one to boot. -- To see papers I've written on, among other things, literary allusions in Australian reasons for judgment, start here: http://ssrn.com/author=1164057 To see photos I've taken of, among other things, Sydney, then and now, start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23623...@n03/sets/72157604225021655/ -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
Leslie Katz wrote: Computer A, an old computer, was running Fedora 9. It had two hard drives. Unawares, when I installed Fedora 9, I set things up using Logical Volume Management. Computer A will no longer boot up. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the fan over the CPU doesn't run. I got computer B, another old computer, going, running Ubuntu 8.10. It has a single hard drive and no facility to add a second. I hoped to be able to get data off the two old hard drives, in particular, photographs. I got a gadget that allowed me to plug an IDE drive into a USB port. I removed one of the old drives from computer A and attached it to computer B via the gadget. When I run fdisk -l on computer B, I'm told that the attached drive is sdb1. However, I can't mount sdb1. When I try, I get the message "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'". Does that mean that there's no way for me to get the data from computer A's drives to computer B? Thanks for reading this. Leslie You need to install the stuff to handle LVM in ubuntu, as i recall it doesn't come with it by default. if you spanned the LVM over both disks you will probably need to have both of them connected to use the volume effectively. If you can get the fan spinning again it'd probably be enough to get the other one to boot. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] How to get files off hard drive?
Computer A, an old computer, was running Fedora 9. It had two hard drives. Unawares, when I installed Fedora 9, I set things up using Logical Volume Management. Computer A will no longer boot up. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the fan over the CPU doesn't run. I got computer B, another old computer, going, running Ubuntu 8.10. It has a single hard drive and no facility to add a second. I hoped to be able to get data off the two old hard drives, in particular, photographs. I got a gadget that allowed me to plug an IDE drive into a USB port. I removed one of the old drives from computer A and attached it to computer B via the gadget. When I run fdisk -l on computer B, I'm told that the attached drive is sdb1. However, I can't mount sdb1. When I try, I get the message "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'". Does that mean that there's no way for me to get the data from computer A's drives to computer B? Thanks for reading this. Leslie -- To see papers I've written on, among other things, literary allusions in Australian reasons for judgment, start here: http://ssrn.com/author=1164057 To see photos I've taken of, among other things, Sydney, then and now, start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23623...@n03/sets/72157604225021655/ -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
