Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
Peter Chubb wrote: (I compile kernels for the small boxen to get rid of modules I don't need --- in fact I don't compile modular kernels for these things, as then there's a whole heap of userspace I can do without, and neither has more than 1G disc) There is a 'multi-call' binary named busybox (http://www.busybox.net) with open source and has GPL. Busybox combines many linux utilities and tools into a single binary and hence producing linux distribution with tiny footprint. In fact this distribution is so tiny that it can be implemented in embedded chips and no need to have peripherals like hard disk. Will also work happily on systems with ide hard disk, cdrom, etc. if anyone requires these. I have a proto-type for i386 using Linux kernel 2.4.32 that fits in a single-floppy. #free total used free sharedbuffers Mem:127996 12168 1150200 0 Swap:0 00 Total: 127996 12168 115020 I have another proto-type for i386 using Linux kernel 2.4.32 that is even smaller in footprint though somewhat inflexible because unlike Busybox with many utilities written in C-language, assembly codes are used instead. (Of course, there are tools these days that translate assembly of one chip to another). I can use utilities written in C-language instead of assembly if the assembly version is not available yet. The footprint will be somewhat larger. #free total used free sharedbuffers Mem:127996 2268 1256720 12 Swap:0 00 Total: 127996 2268 125672 Comparing Codes as follows: Utility /bin/ls Fedora Core 3 - # ls -l /bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 85232 Oct 6 2004 /bin/ls Busybox - # ls -l /bin/ls lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7 Aug 2005 /bin/ls -> busybox -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 208080 7 Aug 2005 /bin/busybox (all utilities) Assembly - # ls -l /bin/ls -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1018 2d /bin/ls My proto-types will run on i486 or better on Linux kernel 2.0 or better. Not sure if 2.6 will fit in 1.44M floppy. Have not tried. On salamander (the 486 firewall; no GUI here): $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 21676 19296 2380 0956 8504 -/+ buffers/cache: 9836 11840 Swap:32592 6456 26136 30 BogoMIPS. On piggle (the laptop): $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 78392 75920 2472 0848 34440 -/+ buffers/cache: 40632 37760 Swap:64504 16544 47960 323 BogoMIPS. FYI O Plameras -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
Hi Yosep, I had Smoothwall: http://smoothwall.org/ running on a old P166MMX with 128Mb RAM for about a year Ran best with an Ethernet modem - the USB modem seemed to suck a lot of power and caused it to be unhappy at times. If you need any cheap hardware, (eg. RAM, network card, or another old HDD - 4Gig) I still have the machine, I just don't use it anymore (it eventually had 196Mb RAM - 3 X 64Mb chips). Regards, Patrick Yosep wrote: 3. Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz (Kasim, Yosep) Hi there I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there any good distro for this old machine. Many thanks in advance * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
> "Kevin" == Kevin Saenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Hi there >>> >>> I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is >>> there any good distro for this old machine. >>> >>> Kevin> You could try Gentoo I reckon Gentoo would be a pain on such a slow machine, because of its habit of recompiling things as you go. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
> "James" == James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> On Tuesday 10 January 2006 13:16, Kasim, Yosep wrote: >> Hi there >> >> I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is >> there any good distro for this old machine. >> >> Many thanks in advance James> I have a P166 (non-MMX variety) with 160MB RAM running as a James> firewall, Samba server, DNS server, DHCP server...bit of James> everything really. Ha. I'm typing this on a laptop P166 with 80MB memory, with X, and xemacs. It's slow (I can't run internet banking, although firefox runs) Debian Unstable with a self-compiled 2.6 kernel. My firewall is a 486DX50 with 32M memory, but some of that is stolen by the BIOS. Also running a hand-tuned debian unstable, with a self-compiled 2.6 kernel, and the TIS firewall toolkit. (I compile kernels for the small boxen to get rid of modules I don't need --- in fact I don't compile modular kernels for these things, as then there's a whole heap of userspace I can do without, and neither has more than 1G disc) On salamander (the 486 firewall; no GUI here): $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 21676 19296 2380 0956 8504 -/+ buffers/cache: 9836 11840 Swap:32592 6456 26136 30 BogoMIPS. On piggle (the laptop): $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 78392 75920 2472 0848 34440 -/+ buffers/cache: 40632 37760 Swap:64504 16544 47960 323 BogoMIPS. -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
Hi there I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there any good distro for this old machine. You could try Gentoo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 13:16, Kasim, Yosep wrote: > Hi there > > I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there > any good distro for this old machine. > > Many thanks in advance I have a P166 (non-MMX variety) with 160MB RAM running as a firewall, Samba server, DNS server, DHCP server...bit of everything really. It's running Debian Sarge with a 2.4 kernel. You could just as easily run Ubuntu Breezy on the same hardware with a "server" installation. Bottom line is, that with a that slow, you can forget about any GUI (X windows etc) but webmin (www.webmin.com) is a good substitute if you're not comfortable with the command line. Cheers, James -- "I am your density." -- George McFly in "Back to the Future" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
As others have mentioned, almost any. The main issue is memory, particularly during the install. I think you have to have 64mb for the main distros to install. ipcop and other specialised distros like 'damn small linux' might be ok with 32mb or less. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
You could use any linux distro, really. If it's dedicated purpose is to firewall/gateway, I'd suggest IPCop (http://www.ipcop.org/) for it's simple configuration. -C. On 1/10/06, Kasim, Yosep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi there > > > > I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there any > good distro for this old machine. > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > DISCLAIMER > > Email Confidentiality Footer > This message is for the named person's use only. Privileged/Confidential > Information may be contained in this message. > If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for > delivery of this message to such person), > you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. If you receive this > correspondence in error, please immediately > delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, > copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended > recipient. > > Internet communications are not secure and therefore Harvey Norman does not > accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or > opinions presented > are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > Harvey Norman. > *** > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: > http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- Cheers, Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
Dean Hamstead wrote: ipcop.org Dean Kasim, Yosep wrote: Hi there I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there any good distro for this old machine. I have a P200 that's running Debian, although it doesn't do too much these days. Pretty much any current distribution will run on Pentium-class hardware, as long as you're prepared to put some effort in to either doing an "expert" install, or culling out unwanted software like desktop environments and the like. That said, if all you want is a firewall/gateway, then yeah, ipcop or one of the specialised distros might be a better choice. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:16:55PM +1100, Kasim, Yosep wrote: > Hi there > > I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there > any good distro for this old machine. Prettymuch any should do (except MAYBE mandrake - don't know which flavour of pantium they compile for exactly). My personal preference is Debian but there are other fish in the sea. -- "To the extent that we overreact, we proffer the terrorists the greatest tribute." - High Court Judge Michael Kirby -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
ipcop.org Dean Kasim, Yosep wrote: Hi there I have a very old pc that I want to serve into linux gateway. Is there any good distro for this old machine. Many thanks in advance DISCLAIMER Email Confidentiality Footer This message is for the named person's use only. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of this message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Harvey Norman does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Harvey Norman. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux distro for pentium 166 Mhz
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