Re: [SLUG] Re: Low-light webcam for 256K upstream

2007-01-10 Thread Ben

On 1/10/07, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Peter Hardy wrote:
 You can get the new driver from http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ , and
 it's also packaged for ubuntu (and probably debian) as pwc-source.
 Install that, and you should find some documentation in
 /usr/share/doc/pwc-source/ that will let you build a package and install
 it in a couple of steps.

Ooo. Checking the pwc wiki at
http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/PWC/WorkingWebcamsWithPWC , it
looks like the ToUCam II uses a different driver altogether.


Sorry, it is a ToUCam Pro II, I thought it was the non-pro version (in
fact, I was hoping it was, because the driver for the ToUCam II seemed
to be easier to get hold of.

However, the Pro is a much better camera and it seems it will work, so
thanks for your info. I did have a read over some of the history of
the driver.

I noticed there are no patches or modules released after early January
2006, but there are reports of things working on the mailing lists at
saillard.org
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So all that's left is to craft a clever mod that can give an IR boost
at low light, without munging the colours in good light... should be
an interesting challenge, but maybe some of that astronomy stuff will
come in handy.

They were just shipped so they'll arrive in Canberra when I'm away at
LCA :-( (just moved).

Thanks,

Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Low-light webcam for 256K upstream

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Hardy
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:37 +1100, Ben wrote:
 I noticed there are no patches or modules released after early January
 2006, but there are reports of things working on the mailing lists at
 saillard.org

Hrmn. I hadn't checked how recent the saillard driver was. But, at least
on my model, it's been mature and very, very stable for a long time.

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[SLUG] Re: Low-light webcam for 256K upstream

2007-01-09 Thread Ben

I'm after a couple of webcams with excellent low-light performance
(maybe even an infra-red option)


I've selected a Philips ToUCam II, which I got on eBay for $93ea.
including insured shipping, since they aren't available in Australia.

Apparently it should work ok in Linux, so but I'll reply again when it arrives.

They're used by astronmers, with loads of lenses, filters, etc.
available for telescopes and low-light shooting and apparently they
can even handle 1lux stock.

There's also details on an IR conversion here:
http://www.grynx.com/projects/use-your-webcam-in-the-dark/1/

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Low-light webcam for 256K upstream

2007-01-09 Thread Peter Hardy

Ben wrote:

I'm after a couple of webcams with excellent low-light performance
(maybe even an infra-red option)


I've selected a Philips ToUCam II, which I got on eBay for $93ea.
including insured shipping, since they aren't available in Australia.


I have an older relative of the ToUCam, a PCVC-680 or something. They 
work well in Linux, and are indeed very very good in low light.


Apparently it should work ok in Linux, so but I'll reply again when it 
arrives.


The pwc driver has had a somewhat rocky history. It was originally 
written by a guy who signed an NDA with Philips to get access to the 
specs and wrote a binary-only driver. Then, after further consultation 
with Philips, he was able to split it in to two parts - a basic open 
source driver, and a secondary binary-only compression module needed for 
higher framerates / resolutions. The base driver was added and removed 
from the linux source tree a couple of times amid intense discussion 
about proprietary, binary-only modules. The fuss it caused was one of 
the driving factors causing the original author to abandon the project.


It's since been picked up by another group, who've also 
reverse-engineered the binary-only parts, and now ship a single open 
source driver that does everything the older two-module setup did. I'm 
not sure if there's a module in the linux.org kernel or not at the 
moment, but if there is, it's most likely the original discontinued 
driver, and not the newer fork.


You can get the new driver from http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ , and 
it's also packaged for ubuntu (and probably debian) as pwc-source. 
Install that, and you should find some documentation in 
/usr/share/doc/pwc-source/ that will let you build a package and install 
it in a couple of steps.


Good luck!

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Low-light webcam for 256K upstream

2007-01-09 Thread Peter Hardy

Peter Hardy wrote:
You can get the new driver from http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ , and 
it's also packaged for ubuntu (and probably debian) as pwc-source. 
Install that, and you should find some documentation in 
/usr/share/doc/pwc-source/ that will let you build a package and install 
it in a couple of steps.


Ooo. Checking the pwc wiki at 
http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/PWC/WorkingWebcamsWithPWC , it 
looks like the ToUCam II uses a different driver altogether.


Um... disregard everything I wrote. :-)

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