Re: [SLUG] Re: Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-28 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:18, Matt Palmer wrote:

 I suspect your interpretation may be at odds with that of Microsoft --
 otherwise you could run a dozen qemu- or vmware-encased images
 simultaneously on the same (very, very chunky) computer legally, which I
 doubt is their intention.

No.  A copy is a copy, and licenses are licenses to make copies.  That's why 
the licenses explicitly say you can make one backup - if they didn't, you 
couldn't make any backup.

It's the number of copies you're granted (although there may be other terms, 
of course).

It's copyright law - the license grants deviation from 'natural' circumstance, 
which is that no one but the author can make copies for any purpose.

Regards,
Bret


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[SLUG] Re: Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-26 Thread Matt Palmer
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 01:34:03PM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote:
 OK, against my better judgment I just had a look at the Windows 98
 EULA. The licence is to install it on one computer, but there are no
 stated restrictions on how that installation might be done. So, my
 quick opinion (with no warranties at all - see below :-)) is that it
 can be installed under qemu provided that the software came with, or
 was purchased for, the machine in question.

I suspect your interpretation may be at odds with that of Microsoft --
otherwise you could run a dozen qemu- or vmware-encased images
simultaneously on the same (very, very chunky) computer legally, which I
doubt is their intention.

On the other hand, you may have two copies, but you've only capable of using
one at once (absent any crazy attempts to run XP-in-qemu-in-XP or similar),
so I really can't see anyone getting amazingly upset about it.

- Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Virtual machine recommendations?

2006-03-26 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:18:53 +1100
Matt Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 01:34:03PM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote:
  OK, against my better judgment I just had a look at the Windows 98
  EULA. The licence is to install it on one computer, but there are no
  stated restrictions on how that installation might be done. So, my
  quick opinion (with no warranties at all - see below :-)) is that it
  can be installed under qemu provided that the software came with, or
  was purchased for, the machine in question.
 
 I suspect your interpretation may be at odds with that of Microsoft --
 otherwise you could run a dozen qemu- or vmware-encased images
 simultaneously on the same (very, very chunky) computer legally,
 which I doubt is their intention.

It may be necessary to restrict running to one - also note that I was
looking at the W98 EULA. MS may have become wiser in later versions.

 
 On the other hand, you may have two copies, but you've only capable
 of using one at once (absent any crazy attempts to run
 XP-in-qemu-in-XP or similar), so I really can't see anyone getting
 amazingly upset about it.

I think that is the point: the purpose of the clause is to restrice
usage to one running copy on one machine. That isn't violated. In the
event that the clause is ambiguous (which this discussion verifies)
then looking at the purpose is one way forward. Not the only way,
unfortunately :-)

 
 - Matt
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