Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Fox
On 3/23/06, Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And just on that note, any OSX 10.4 users will be aware that one of
the many recent system updates has also fixed up the timezone issues
associated with this. Some months back we would of had this problem,
but as of now its all good, as per this output on my mac mini.

bart:~ michaelf$ zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW | grep 2006
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW  Sat Apr  1 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun
Apr  2 02:59:59 2006 EST isdst=1
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW  Sat Apr  1 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun
Apr  2 02:00:00 2006 EST isdst=0
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW  Sat Oct 28 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun
Oct 29 01:59:59 2006 EST isdst=0
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW  Sat Oct 28 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun
Oct 29 03:00:00 2006 EST isdst=1
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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-23 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Thu, March 23, 2006 4:47 pm, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:44:56PM +1100, Bai, Junmin wrote:


 wget ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2006b.tar.gz tar zxf
 tzdata2006b.tar.gz sudo zic australasia

thanks to both of you, my RH73 is now correct !

(is there a procedure like this for the Palm he wonders)

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[SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-22 Thread Bai, Junmin








Hi everyone



I have a redhat linux 7.3. Because of
commonwealth game of 2006, we need a patch for redhat 7.3 to solve the timezone
problem. Does anyone know this patch.



Cheers

Junmin








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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 02:22:37PM +1100, Bai, Junmin wrote:
 
 I have a redhat linux 7.3.  Because of commonwealth game of 2006, we
 need a patch for redhat 7.3 to solve the timezone problem. Does anyone
 know this patch.

Do you do updates with yum through fedoralegacy.org?
Maybe they patched it already.  (I had a quick look
but couldn't see any evidence that they had)

Check with:

# zdump -c 2007 -v Australia/Sydney|grep 2006

You should get 

Australia/Sydney  Sat Apr  1 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2 02:59:59 
2006 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
Australia/Sydney  Sat Apr  1 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2 02:00:00 
2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 28 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 01:59:59 
2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 28 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 03:00:00 
2006 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600

if it's correct.

If it's not, get back to us. The fix will be similar to that
posted for debian mentioned in earlier mail to this list.
(http://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges)

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RE: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-22 Thread Bai, Junmin

Thanks Matthew for your reply which gave me more idea about it. Redhat
is slightly different from Debian. Could you send me compiled zoneinfo
since it's platform and architecture independent?

Junmin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2006 3:07 PM
To: Bai, Junmin
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 02:22:37PM +1100, Bai, Junmin wrote:

 I have a redhat linux 7.3.  Because of commonwealth game of 2006, we
 need a patch for redhat 7.3 to solve the timezone problem. Does anyone
 know this patch.

Do you do updates with yum through fedoralegacy.org?
Maybe they patched it already.  (I had a quick look
but couldn't see any evidence that they had)

Check with:

# zdump -c 2007 -v Australia/Sydney|grep 2006

You should get

Australia/Sydney  Sat Apr  1 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2
02:59:59 2006 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
Australia/Sydney  Sat Apr  1 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2
02:00:00 2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 28 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29
01:59:59 2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 28 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29
03:00:00 2006 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600

if it's correct.

If it's not, get back to us. The fix will be similar to that
posted for debian mentioned in earlier mail to this list.
(http://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges)

Matt





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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-22 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:44:56PM +1100, Bai, Junmin wrote:
 
 Thanks Matthew for your reply which gave me more idea about it. Redhat
 is slightly different from Debian. Could you send me compiled zoneinfo
 since it's platform and architecture independent?

My zoneinfo dir is 10Mb; the raw original tzdata file 
is less than 150k.

Here's a quick 'n' dirty procedure, assuming zoneinfo
is in the same place in 7.3 as fedora4.

You might want to back up your zoneinfo first with
sudo cp -a  /usr/share/zoneinfo /usr/share/zoneinfo.orig


wget ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2006b.tar.gz
tar zxf tzdata2006b.tar.gz
sudo zic australasia


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RE: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

2006-03-22 Thread Bai, Junmin


Thanks Matthew, I did it.

Junmin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2006 4:48 PM
To: Bai, Junmin
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: [SLUG] daylight saving patch for redhat 7.3

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:44:56PM +1100, Bai, Junmin wrote:

 Thanks Matthew for your reply which gave me more idea about it. Redhat
 is slightly different from Debian. Could you send me compiled zoneinfo
 since it's platform and architecture independent?

My zoneinfo dir is 10Mb; the raw original tzdata file
is less than 150k.

Here's a quick 'n' dirty procedure, assuming zoneinfo
is in the same place in 7.3 as fedora4.

You might want to back up your zoneinfo first with
sudo cp -a  /usr/share/zoneinfo /usr/share/zoneinfo.orig


wget ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2006b.tar.gz
tar zxf tzdata2006b.tar.gz
sudo zic australasia


Matt





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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-07 Thread Jonathan Wheelhouse
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:17:39AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
[...]
 On debian systems:
/etc/timezone should contain
Australia/NSW
/etc/localtime should be a symlink to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW
/usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime should be a symlink to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW
My system says
~$ cat /etc/timezone
Australia/Sydney
~$ ll /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   36 2002-10-22 23:58 /etc/localtime - 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney
~$ ll /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 2002-10-22 23:58 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime - /etc/localtime

This, I think, should work as well.

 Then if TZ is unset, glibc will use whatever /etc/localtime says the
 timezone is.

OK, I'll unset TZ; no point in having it if it's not needed.

Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Brett Fenton wrote:
I'm not sure what the problem you've had is, but why not just run ntpd
and let someone else worry about maintaining the correct time??

ntp tends to keep GMT, your timezone still needs to tell the system how many
hours to add to GMT for humans.  ntp doesn't do daylight savings.

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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jonathan Wheelhouse wrote:
I'm running Debian unstable.  The hardware clock is set to UTC.  

/etc/timezone contains
Australia/Sydney

what about /etc/localtime, which should be a symlink to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney ?

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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-07 Thread mkraus
Depends if you want POSIX compliance for your timezone variables or not...

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On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:17:39AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
[...]
 On debian systems:
/etc/timezone should contain
 Australia/NSW
/etc/localtime should be a symlink to 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW
/usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime should be a symlink to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW
My system says
~$ cat /etc/timezone
Australia/Sydney
~$ ll /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   36 2002-10-22 23:58 /etc/localtime 
- /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney
~$ ll /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 2002-10-22 23:58 
/usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime - /etc/localtime

This, I think, should work as well.

 Then if TZ is unset, glibc will use whatever /etc/localtime says the
 timezone is.

OK, I'll unset TZ; no point in having it if it's not needed.

Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-06 Thread Jonathan Wheelhouse
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:15:59AM +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 
[...]

 What is your TZ env variable?
It's not set to anything.  Should it be?
 Also, do
   ldd `which zdump`
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

~# ll /lib/libc.so.6
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 Oct 22 23:58 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.3.1.so
~# ll /lib/libc-2.3.1.so
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1109900 Oct 22 00:41 /lib/libc-2.3.1.so

This is what dselect has; Debian packages site shows
 unstable  libc6 2.3.1-3   (3106.6k)   GNU C Library: Shared libraries
 and Timezone data
so I guess it's correct.

So is the culprit the TZ environment variable?
tzselect says to add
 TZ='Australia/Sydney'; export TZ
to my ~/.profile which I've done.
But would that be better off in /etc/environment because I would
prefer to set it system wide?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-06 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:05:39PM +1100, Jonathan Wheelhouse wrote:
 So is the culprit the TZ environment variable?

Maybe;
does
echo $TZ
date
TZ=Australia/Sydney date
TZ=Australia/NSW date
unset TZ; date  

give you the same 3 datetimes?

 tzselect says to add
TZ='Australia/Sydney'; export TZ
 to my ~/.profile which I've done.
 But would that be better off in /etc/environment because I would
 prefer to set it system wide?

Sounds right, but I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with Debian.

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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-06 Thread Peter Chubb
 Matthew == Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Matthew On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:05:39PM +1100, Jonathan Wheelhouse
Matthew wrote:
 So is the culprit the TZ environment variable?

On debian systems:
   /etc/timezone should contain
 Australia/NSW
   /etc/localtime should be a symlink to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW
   /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime should be a symlink to
   /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/NSW

Then if TZ is unset, glibc will use whatever /etc/localtime says the
timezone is.

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[SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-05 Thread Jonathan Wheelhouse
Hi

The time shown by my computer didn't change to daylight saving last
Saturday night.  So I manually set it forward an hour (which has now
forwarded UTC in the hardware clock by an hour, I guess).

I'm running Debian unstable.  The hardware clock is set to UTC.  

/etc/timezone contains
Australia/Sydney

I'm following 16.1 Setting time, time zones and Daylight Saving of
the Debian System Administration manual.  It says that I may have old
timezone files; libc6 contains these files.

dpkg -l libc6 reveals
ii libc6 2.3.1-3 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data

I didn't notice any bug(s) relating to daylight saving on a quick
perusal of the BTS.

zdump -v Australia/Sydney|less reveals
Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 26 16:00:00 2002 UTC = Sun Oct 27 03:00:00 2002 EST isdst=1 
gmtoff=39600
Australia/Sydney  Sat Mar 29 15:59:59 2003 UTC = Sun Mar 30 02:59:59 2003 EST isdst=1 
gmtoff=39600

So, my computer should have changed to daylight saving but didn't.

One of the reasons I noticed was that I downloaded and burnt knoppix
3.1 (a Debian based cdrom demo distribution; pretty awesome - it
recognised all of the machines I ran it on including a Toshiba
laptop); knoppix set time forward 1 hour.

Any ideas?

Jonathan

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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-05 Thread Paul L Daniels
Troll attempt
I just wish they'd stop fiddling with time.  Don't they know they risk a 
paradox when they flip the time back!
/troll

Seriously though, it's a pain this daylight savings stuff.

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RE: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-05 Thread Brett Fenton
I'm not sure what the problem you've had is, but why not just run ntpd
and let someone else worry about maintaining the correct time??

Regards
Brett

: -Original Message-
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: [mailto:slug-admin;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
: Jonathan Wheelhouse
: Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2002 11:57 PM
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen
:
:
: Hi
:
: The time shown by my computer didn't change to daylight saving last
: Saturday night.  So I manually set it forward an hour
: (which has now
: forwarded UTC in the hardware clock by an hour, I guess).
:
: I'm running Debian unstable.  The hardware clock is set to UTC.
:
: /etc/timezone contains
: Australia/Sydney
:
: I'm following 16.1 Setting time, time zones and Daylight
: Saving of
: the Debian System Administration manual.  It says that I
: may have old
: timezone files; libc6 contains these files.
:
: dpkg -l libc6 reveals
: ii libc6 2.3.1-3 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
:
: I didn't notice any bug(s) relating to daylight saving on a quick
: perusal of the BTS.
:
: zdump -v Australia/Sydney|less reveals
: Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 26 16:00:00 2002 UTC = Sun Oct
: 27 03:00:00 2002 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
: Australia/Sydney  Sat Mar 29 15:59:59 2003 UTC = Sun Mar
: 30 02:59:59 2003 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
:
: So, my computer should have changed to daylight saving but didn't.
:
: One of the reasons I noticed was that I downloaded and
: burnt knoppix
: 3.1 (a Debian based cdrom demo distribution; pretty awesome - it
: recognised all of the machines I ran it on including a Toshiba
: laptop); knoppix set time forward 1 hour.
:
: Any ideas?
:
: Jonathan
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Re: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

2002-11-05 Thread Matthew Hannigan

Jonathan,
Your /etc/timezone and zdump output look good to me.

What is your TZ env variable?

Also, do
ldd `which zdump`
to make sure it's using the right libs.

Matt

PS. You java users out there should check your
time settings too.  I found a bug in one of Suns
java 1.2 versions which thought we were having
the Olympics again this year. 


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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-28 Thread Jon Biddell

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Danny Yee wrote:
 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?

SuSE 6.3 kicked it over with no problem...

Now, does anyone know how to change the time in a Nokia 9110 phone...:-)

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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-28 Thread Rick Welykochy

Danny Yee wrote:
 
 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?

Worked like a treat!
Smooth changeover at 2:00am ... and I didn't think it would work :^)


rick@golly rick]$ zdump -v Australia/Sydney | fgrep 2000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Mar 25 15:59:59 2000 UTC = Sun Mar 26 02:59:59 2000 EST isdst=1 
gmtoff=39600
Australia/Sydney  Sat Mar 25 16:00:00 2000 UTC = Sun Mar 26 02:00:00 2000 EST isdst=0 
gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Aug 26 15:59:59 2000 UTC = Sun Aug 27 01:59:59 2000 EST isdst=0 
gmtoff=36000
Australia/Sydney  Sat Aug 26 16:00:00 2000 UTC = Sun Aug 27 03:00:00 2000 EST isdst=1 
gmtoff=39600   

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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-28 Thread Rick Welykochy

Ben Leslie wrote:
 
  Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
  to happen daylight saving change?
 
  Danny.
 
 My Debian potato and debian woody boxes all made the change without a problem.

Mine too :^) (RH 6.1)
Must admit that the RH 5.1 box did not kick in, but it's install (without upgrades)
was 3 years prior to 2day.

 The NT box and Win98 box that are also in the office didn't change :(.

Nope. I poked around a few 'doze boxen at work, some had made the
change, and others handn't. Our team using Linux boxen did the DST thang fine.

From the 'doze sysadmin: "we're working on setting the server to the correct
time" ... this at 3:00pm today, some 24 hours after DST kicked in ;^)


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RE: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-27 Thread Aravind Naidu


I did apply a M$ supplied fix for the boxes and they all switched over
correctly.

My Mandrake 7.1 box did not :-(



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  Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
  to happen daylight saving change?
 
  Danny.


 My Debian potato and debian woody boxes all made the change
 without a problem.

 The NT box and Win98 box that are also in the office didn't change :(.

 Cheers,

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RE: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-27 Thread Tom Massey

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Aravind Naidu wrote:

 My Mandrake 7.1 box did not :-(

Strange. Mine did.



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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-27 Thread Andrew Macks

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Danny Yee wrote:

 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?

SuSE 6.3 and 6.4 switched correctly.

Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-27 Thread Aaron Binns



I found the boxes at work all unanimously changed their date at 2am LAST
sunday... nto too helpful when you are dealing with date-critical applications..
but they did choose to go with M$ after all, didnt they?

The Linux box I had installed at the installfest is working great guns though...
and if I do dare say it, faster than it was when running smaller apps under
windoze9X - and with the correct date and all.

Aaron Binns

System Engineer
Tower Technology Pty Ltd
(02) 94242786

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 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?

 Danny.


My Debian potato and debian woody boxes all made the change without a problem.

The NT box and Win98 box that are also in the office didn't change :(.

Cheers,

Benno


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[SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-26 Thread Danny Yee

Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
to happen daylight saving change?

Danny.



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RE: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-26 Thread Richard Ames

Redhat 6.2 and 6.1 have it right.  The zoneinfo files are provided by
glibc-2.1.3-15.

Richard

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 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?

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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-26 Thread Howard Lowndes

One machine running RH6.0 changed at 2:00 this am.  I expect the others
running later distros to change tomorrow morning at the same time.

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Danny Yee wrote:

 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?
 
 Danny.
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] daylight saving

2000-08-26 Thread Ben Leslie

 Can anyone confirm that current Linux distributions understand our about
 to happen daylight saving change?
 
 Danny.


My Debian potato and debian woody boxes all made the change without a problem.

The NT box and Win98 box that are also in the office didn't change :(.

Cheers,

Benno


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