Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-13 Thread David Fitch

On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 10:49, Michael Still wrote:
 I have seen this on both of my laptops (a Toshiba Tecra, and an IBM
 Thinkpad). It happens in both the W thing and Linux... I've never been
 concerned.

yes! so it's not just me!
my (toshiba tecra) laptop does that slowly scrolling to the top
of the screen thing by itself, it's the built in nipple mouse.

Dave.


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RE: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-13 Thread Chris Barnes

I've seen Dell Latitude CPX laptops do that thing where the pointer scrolls
to the top slowly even when your not touching anythingi just installed
the latest Flash Bios and it was fine...

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On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 10:49, Michael Still wrote:
 I have seen this on both of my laptops (a Toshiba Tecra, and an IBM
 Thinkpad). It happens in both the W thing and Linux... I've never been
 concerned.

yes! so it's not just me!
my (toshiba tecra) laptop does that slowly scrolling to the top
of the screen thing by itself, it's the built in nipple mouse.

Dave.


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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Conrad Parker

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:24:56PM +1000, Warren wrote:
 when running redhat 7.3, kde/gnome, every now and then the mouse pointer
 starts to point slightly to the right of the area that will receive the
 click and it also then cannot be moved hard against the left of the
 screen but stops some amount of pixels short (about 40 i think)
 
 so far the only way i found to fix this is reboot
 
 any clues please?

is it an intellimouse? those things go screwy sometimes. [it may be a
hardware problem -- have you tried a different mouse?]

does switching to a different virtual console (Ctl+Alt+F1) and back to
X (Ctl+Alt+F7) fix it? [sometimes this resets the input device to a known
state]

I had a similar problem with a mouse last week but it just turned out to
be some dirt on the rollers.

Conrad.
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RE: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Jill Rowling

If this is on a laptop, it's most likely the trackpad having a hardware
failure. The Dells at work (NT) often do this just before the keyboard dies.

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:24:56PM +1000, Warren wrote:
 when running redhat 7.3, kde/gnome, every now and then the mouse pointer
 starts to point slightly to the right of the area that will receive the


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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread James Gregory

Warren wrote:

when running redhat 7.3, kde/gnome, every now and then the mouse pointer
starts to point slightly to the right of the area that will receive the
click and it also then cannot be moved hard against the left of the
screen but stops some amount of pixels short (about 40 i think)

so far the only way i found to fix this is reboot

any clues please?

It probably has nothing to do with it, but are you using a hardware 
accelerated cursor? I remember having problems with this way way back 
with an early version of the nvidia drivers for my tnt2 card. The 
relevant option is HWCursor in your XF86Config-4 file (assuming you're 
using xfree 4.x, and I'm also not sure if it's an nvidia specific 
option). Try toggling its value. Does restarting X solve your problem? 
are you running gpm and using it to send mouse events to X? I generally 
find gpm to cause problems with everything ever (well, specifically I 
can't use directfb apps with it). I would also be fascinated if 
restarting X did not solve your problem, since X (as far as I know) has 
its own drivers for input devices which would be restarted every time 
you restart X.

HTH

James.


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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Jan Schmidt

quote who=Conrad Parker

 is it an intellimouse? those things go screwy sometimes. [it may be a
 hardware problem -- have you tried a different mouse?]
 

I've only ever seen trouble with Intellimeeces when uses them through gpm...
if I get gpm out of the way, then the meece run fine. The symptom I see
using gpm is that X will get confuses and push the cursor up against the
edges of the screen regardless of how you move it.

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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Crossfire

Warren was once rumoured to have said:
 when running redhat 7.3, kde/gnome, every now and then the mouse pointer
 starts to point slightly to the right of the area that will receive the
 click and it also then cannot be moved hard against the left of the
 screen but stops some amount of pixels short (about 40 i think)
 
 so far the only way i found to fix this is reboot
 
 any clues please?

You're suffering from what sounds like a hardware cursor issue.

Restarting your X Server (you can use Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to kill the
current instance, and gdm/xdm/kdm will spawn a new one) should fix it.

If you want to avoid the problem, you'll need to disable the hardware
cursor support in  your XServer.  This is usually done by adding:

  option SWCursor

to the video card section of your XFree86 config file[1].

The main disadvantage there is that Hardware cursor support is MUCH
faster than software cursor support - you are likely to experience a
huge hit to the responsiveness of your mouse whilst the system is
under heavier loads.

C.

[1] Its been a long time since I had to do this - I might have the
option's name wrong - when in doubt, read the readme files - it is
mentioned in there.
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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Tom Massey

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:38:41AM +1000, Jan Schmidt wrote:
 I've only ever seen trouble with Intellimeeces when uses them through gpm...
 if I get gpm out of the way, then the meece run fine. The symptom I see
 using gpm is that X will get confuses and push the cursor up against the
 edges of the screen regardless of how you move it.

You can usually get an Intellimouse working with gpm using
an /etc/gpm.conf like:

device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw
type=imps2
append=

And /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 containing:

Section InputDevice

Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolIMPS/2
Option Device  /dev/gpmdata
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5

EndSection


The important thing is to set gpm's repeat type to raw, and
use IMPS/2 as the protocol and /dev/gpmdata as the device
when configuring X.
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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Conrad Parker

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:38:41AM +1000, Jan Schmidt wrote:
 quote who=Conrad Parker
 
  is it an intellimouse? those things go screwy sometimes. [it may be a
  hardware problem -- have you tried a different mouse?]
  
 
 I've only ever seen trouble with Intellimeeces when uses them through gpm...
 if I get gpm out of the way, then the meece run fine. The symptom I see
 using gpm is that X will get confuses and push the cursor up against the
 edges of the screen regardless of how you move it.

hmm, what occasionally happens to me (like, a few times a year, not every
day) is that my mouse cursor will decide to crawl slowly to the top of the
screen, and if there's virtual desktops above then of course it crawls into
them as well and keeps on going. Picking the mouse up off its mat and gently
shaking it seems to discipline it and it behaves properly again.

maybe my mouse has a dirty roller, maybe its a driver problem, maybe I
forgot to wear deodorant those days and it's trying to escape; damn
rebellious intellimice.

K.
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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Still

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Conrad Parker wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:38:41AM +1000, Jan Schmidt wrote:
  quote who=Conrad Parker
 
   is it an intellimouse? those things go screwy sometimes. [it may be a
   hardware problem -- have you tried a different mouse?]
  
 
  I've only ever seen trouble with Intellimeeces when uses them through gpm...
  if I get gpm out of the way, then the meece run fine. The symptom I see
  using gpm is that X will get confuses and push the cursor up against the
  edges of the screen regardless of how you move it.

 hmm, what occasionally happens to me (like, a few times a year, not every
 day) is that my mouse cursor will decide to crawl slowly to the top of the
 screen, and if there's virtual desktops above then of course it crawls into
 them as well and keeps on going. Picking the mouse up off its mat and gently
 shaking it seems to discipline it and it behaves properly again.

I have seen this on both of my laptops (a Toshiba Tecra, and an IBM
Thinkpad). It happens in both the W thing and Linux... I've never been
concerned.

Mikal

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Re: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right

2002-06-12 Thread Warren

thanx everyone for your comments

this problem is very intermittent - hasn't happened yet today and i 
haven't been able to nail down if any particular event triggers it

this is a Genius Wheel Mouse supplied with a new desktop system from 
everythinglinux - i haven't yet tried swapping in another mouse

certainly the tip on restarting X sounds a bit less painful than a
reboot, tho yet to try it

when it happens its very annoying, I will keep an eye on it 

thanx again

Warren Mobey

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