Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Heracles wrote:
Unfortunately for most of us, those with the Secret knowledge of 
the Debian prefer to keep it hidden as much as possible, only 
occasionally passing on the crumbs to accolites. They prefer to 
refer to the FM. Thankfully as there are so many manuals that the 
would be Debian users seldom find the answers they seek even 
after many hours (more often weeks) of searching they turn to 
saner (read easier to use)distributions.

Get back under your bridge.

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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-05 Thread Michael Lake

Jeff Waugh wrote:
 Run tasksel to install large chunks of related packages in Debian. 

Oh thankyou, thankyou. Another small Debian pearl falls from the 
bearer of Debian knowledge and lore. Plucked from the ground amid the chaff 
of bubblefishmon, I man tasksel as the wise walk in front of me. 
Yay, verily there is a man page, it's installed, little did I realise that 
there it lay in my /usr/bin all along. I run it up and see a gem of usefullness. 
Debian thou art always providing useful trinkets.

by Mike Lake
Jan 2002
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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-05 Thread Dane

*vomit*


On  0, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeff Waugh wrote:
  Run tasksel to install large chunks of related packages in Debian. 
 
 Oh thankyou, thankyou. Another small Debian pearl falls from the 
 bearer of Debian knowledge and lore. Plucked from the ground amid the chaff 
 of bubblefishmon, I man tasksel as the wise walk in front of me. 
 Yay, verily there is a man page, it's installed, little did I realise that 
 there it lay in my /usr/bin all along. I run it up and see a gem of usefullness. 
 Debian thou art always providing useful trinkets.
 
 by Mike Lake
 Jan 2002
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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-05 Thread Heracles

On Saturday 05 January 2002 22:13, Michael Lake wrote:
 Oh thankyou, thankyou. Another small Debian pearl falls from
 the bearer of Debian knowledge and lore. Plucked from the
 ground amid the chaff of bubblefishmon, I man tasksel as the
 wise walk in front of me. Yay, verily there is a man page, it's
 installed, little did I realise that there it lay in my
 /usr/bin all along. I run it up and see a gem of usefullness.
 Debian thou art always providing useful trinkets.

Unfortunately for most of us, those with the Secret knowledge of 
the Debian prefer to keep it hidden as much as possible, only 
occasionally passing on the crumbs to accolites. They prefer to 
refer to the FM. Thankfully as there are so many manuals that the 
would be Debian users seldom find the answers they seek even 
after many hours (more often weeks) of searching they turn to 
saner (read easier to use)distributions.

Stay well and happy
Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-05 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Heracles

 Unfortunately for most of us, those with the Secret knowledge of the
 Debian prefer to keep it hidden as much as possible, only occasionally
 passing on the crumbs to accolites. They prefer to refer to the FM.

That is a fetid pile of blinkered bollocks. Why do you think there is a SLUG
Debian SIG? I've learned *all* of the really useful things I know about
Debian (and I'm not really into the intricacies) from SLUGgers.

(Similarly, many of us have learned all the useful things to know about
Linux from SLUGgers.)

 Thankfully as there are so many manuals that the would be Debian users
 seldom find the answers they seek even after many hours (more often weeks)
 of searching they turn to saner (read easier to use)distributions.

Are you one of those males who refuses to ask for directions, and always
ends up in nowheresville?

I use Debian precisely because it's easy (and Free). I don't know where your
continual bad attitude towards Debian comes from.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-04 Thread Charles Gray

I just wish it would display the hostname, so you can use it as a network
wide system monitor utility.

Chuck

On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 12:55:27AM +1100, Andre Pang wrote:
 hallo,
 
 i was buggering around yesterday, and found a very cute little
 program called bubblefishymon.  it's Yet Another System Resource
 Monitor for X (CPU usage, swap memory, memory usage, network
 traffic), but it kicks ass because it's a liddle fishtank instead
 of looking like a boring old graph.  tres groovy!
 
 a screenshot of the gkrellm version is at
 http://www.algorithm.com.au/gkrellm-bubblefishymon.jpg
 
 the number of bubbles in the water represent CPU usage, the
 height of the water is the memory usage, number of fishes
 represent network traffic, and the colour of the water is how
 deep you are into swap (blue = none, red = heavy).  the duck is
 just there because ducks are kewt.  (quack!)
 
 the homepage is at http://www.pigeond.net/bfm/ ; it's available
 as a standalone app, a gkrellm plugin, and i think also a
 windowmaker dock app.  i believe there's also a GNOME applet
 panel version.  for the debian users, there's also a deb package
 at the bottom of the page.
 
 quack on,
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-04 Thread Andre Pang

On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:52:25AM +1100, Charles Gray wrote:

 I just wish it would display the hostname, so you can use it as a network
 wide system monitor utility.

Well, the source code is there.  You can always hack it if you
like :).

Another solution may be to use the gkrellm plugin; gkrellm
displays the hostname, and has bubblefishymon running as an
applet.  You can turn off all of gkrellm's other system monitors
if you want to.


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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-04 Thread Karl Clements

I liked debian, especially apt but i couldn't work out how to get kde installed with 
it, not that i tried to hard, but i suppose it doesn't matter now as i droped kde 
(resource hungry bitch of a thing). 

I was running this machine as 2k, slack8 and deb2.2r2 but when i redid it i made it 98 
(mm dos games) and slack8 and didn't bother with debian again, I suppose I went with 
slack8 because that was the one i knew better due to the fact I had been using it 
more. It was much easier to get X going in debian than it was slackware but.

i like sifting through ./configure --help working out what options i need and can use 
then compiling from source sure it might take longer than using an rpm or deb, but 
then its tweaked for your system. I know people who have built their entire system by 
compiling it and have had a huge performance increase over those who used rpm's and 
deb's.

This is the main reason i use slackware, i need to ensure I get optimal perforamnce 
because i have a crap machine.

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reply who=Andre Pang date=Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:55:27 +1100

 hallo,
 
 i was buggering around yesterday, and found a very cute little
 program called bubblefishymon.  it's Yet Another System Resource
 Monitor for X (CPU usage, swap memory, memory usage, network
 traffic), but it kicks ass because it's a liddle fishtank instead
 of looking like a boring old graph.  tres groovy!
 
 a screenshot of the gkrellm version is at
 http://www.algorithm.com.au/gkrellm-bubblefishymon.jpg
 
 the number of bubbles in the water represent CPU usage, the
 height of the water is the memory usage, number of fishes
 represent network traffic, and the colour of the water is how
 deep you are into swap (blue = none, red = heavy).  the duck is
 just there because ducks are kewt.  (quack!)
 
 the homepage is at http://www.pigeond.net/bfm/ ; it's available
 as a standalone app, a gkrellm plugin, and i think also a
 windowmaker dock app.  i believe there's also a GNOME applet
 panel version.  for the debian users, there's also a deb package
 at the bottom of the page.
 
 quack on,
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] bubblefishymon

2002-01-04 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Karl Clements

 I liked debian, especially apt but i couldn't work out how to get kde
 installed with it, not that i tried to hard, but i suppose it doesn't
 matter now as i droped kde (resource hungry bitch of a thing). 

Run tasksel to install large chunks of related packages in Debian. Please
consider the countless hours of work that the KDE hackers have put into
their software so that you can just pass it off as a resource hungry bitch
of a thing. Not kind.

 i like sifting through ./configure --help working out what options i need
 and can use then compiling from source sure it might take longer than
 using an rpm or deb, but then its tweaked for your system. I know people
 who have built their entire system by compiling it and have had a huge
 performance increase over those who used rpm's and deb's.

Huge is generally in the single-digit percent range (except for some very
specific cpu-intensive applications, not your general desktop fare).

Good to see they've spent all those clock cycles and weekends recompiling
their software to save so little! I thought you were talking about
efficiency...

- Jeff

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