[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-03 Thread Andrew Wallo

Andy,

Ahah.  We are debugging an install at this very moment which is exhibiting 
that issue.  You're posts were of immense value.  Oddly, my install of 
Declude on Imail dose not create those directories.  But I was not testing 
under Wind 2003.  We will work to correct the issue quickly.


Thanks.

Andrew Wallo

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt andy_schm...@hm-software.com

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.



1.  We haven't detected a trailing backslash issue with clamdscan.exe
being
called from Declude. 

My Declude creates a temporary folder

C:\imail\spool\proc\work\Dxx.vir\

where it unravels the nested MIME attachments that belong to a single 
mail
as individual files and then it attempts to scan the entire temporary 
folder

content by launching:

CLAMDSCAN.EXE -v --no-summary -l report.txt
C:\imail\spool\proc\work\Dxx.vir\

The problem is that the W32.ClamAV.net build will return No such file or
directory (under Windows 2003) if you pass a trailing slash.  It WOULD 
work

and scan the entire folder ONLY if the trailing backslash is omitted.

I'm curious - in your system, what happens when you do:

ClamDScan c:\windows\

vs.

ClamDScan c:\windows

2. Your page http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp states:
Navigate to the mail-application\declude\ directory under Imail or
Smartermail. Find the virus.cfg file. The file should now have an entry:
#CLAMAV_CLAMAID
SCANFILE D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\CLAMDS~1.EXE -v
--config-file=D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\conf\clamd.conf --no-summary -l
D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\log\report.txt
VIRUSCODE 1

If this is true, then on a busy server, multiple concurrent ClamAV 
processes

would be attempting to write into the SAME report.txt file in the CLAMAV
program files folder - causing concurrency problems or locked file
problems. The best approach would be to leave out the path information and
let ClamAV create a unique Report.txt file in the distinct temporary 
folder

that is created for each message!


I have read about this in some reports, and I've used the Declude

recommended call for calling Clam... I'd like more information if you have


The ClamAV report file will have the following format:

--
C:\Maintenance\Eicar.com: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND

Declude will parse that Report.txt file and NOT expect to see the ---
divider line AND will look for the word FOUND and expect the virus name
AFTER the search token FOUND.

Consequently the parsing will fail. Declude WILL recognize the error level
and know that the email was infected, but neither the Declude log NOR the
virus notification emails will report a sensible virus name.


So the correct view of what is happening should be being logged on the

ClamAV side, if not fully transparent through Declude. 

The virus notification emails are wrong and those of us who generate
anti-virus reports by scanning the declude virus logfiles will get 
nonsense

reporting.


if you have it on your specific solution of the name-dissconnect 


Well, it's fairly simply. The script I had sent in my post two days ago 
does

the following:

a) trim the trailing backslash from the path if any is found
b) read and parse the ClamAV report.txt file and outputs a new Report.txt
file that uses a format that's parsable by Declude.

Best Regards,
Andy Schmidt




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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
1.  We haven't detected a trailing backslash issue with clamdscan.exe
being 
called from Declude. 

My Declude creates a temporary folder 

C:\imail\spool\proc\work\Dxx.vir\

where it unravels the nested MIME attachments that belong to a single mail
as individual files and then it attempts to scan the entire temporary folder
content by launching: 

CLAMDSCAN.EXE -v --no-summary -l report.txt
C:\imail\spool\proc\work\Dxx.vir\

The problem is that the W32.ClamAV.net build will return No such file or
directory (under Windows 2003) if you pass a trailing slash.  It WOULD work
and scan the entire folder ONLY if the trailing backslash is omitted.

I'm curious - in your system, what happens when you do:

ClamDScan c:\windows\

vs.

ClamDScan c:\windows

2. Your page http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp states:
Navigate to the mail-application\declude\ directory under Imail or
Smartermail. Find the virus.cfg file. The file should now have an entry:
#CLAMAV_CLAMAID
SCANFILE D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\CLAMDS~1.EXE -v
--config-file=D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\conf\clamd.conf --no-summary -l
D:\PROGRA~1\ClamAV\log\report.txt
VIRUSCODE 1

If this is true, then on a busy server, multiple concurrent ClamAV processes
would be attempting to write into the SAME report.txt file in the CLAMAV
program files folder - causing concurrency problems or locked file
problems. The best approach would be to leave out the path information and
let ClamAV create a unique Report.txt file in the distinct temporary folder
that is created for each message!

 I have read about this in some reports, and I've used the Declude
recommended call for calling Clam... I'd like more information if you have


The ClamAV report file will have the following format:

--
C:\Maintenance\Eicar.com: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND

Declude will parse that Report.txt file and NOT expect to see the ---
divider line AND will look for the word FOUND and expect the virus name
AFTER the search token FOUND.

Consequently the parsing will fail. Declude WILL recognize the error level
and know that the email was infected, but neither the Declude log NOR the
virus notification emails will report a sensible virus name.

 So the correct view of what is happening should be being logged on the
ClamAV side, if not fully transparent through Declude. 

The virus notification emails are wrong and those of us who generate
anti-virus reports by scanning the declude virus logfiles will get nonsense
reporting.

 if you have it on your specific solution of the name-dissconnect 

Well, it's fairly simply. The script I had sent in my post two days ago does
the following:

a) trim the trailing backslash from the path if any is found
b) read and parse the ClamAV report.txt file and outputs a new Report.txt
file that uses a format that's parsable by Declude.

Best Regards,
Andy Schmidt




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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Pete,

Very cool. I just went through this a few weeks ago.

Here's the issues I encountered:

- The engine for official Windows build I found (http://w32.clamav.net/)
was out of date (but still usable) and had problems with trailing
backslashes the way that Declude was passing them.

- The ClamWin build was current, but resisted any attempt to run it as a
service.

- Either one had the problem that the virus report generated by ClamAV is
not understood by Declude (which looks only for one, very specific pattern)
- so one doesn't get the proper virus name passed to messages, log files and
virus statistics 

I ended up scripting some middleware between Declude and Clam that would
address the trailing backslash on the input side and the virus name on the
output site.

Are all these issues addressed in your installer? How?

Then I'd be happy to migrate my incarnation over to yours.

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On Behalf
Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:49 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

Hello Sniffer Folks,

We've noticed that folks often have trouble getting Clam AV (the free
open source anti-virus scanner) working correctly on their mail
servers, so we've created a free product to help solve that. ClamAID
(Clam AV Assisted Install Device).

http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp

What ClamIAD does is collect all of the bits and pieces that make
ClamAV work, configure them, install them, and get them running with
your email / filtering platform.

So far ClamAID supports IceWarp, Declude/IMail, and
Declude/SmarterMail.

We will add support for additional platforms as requested (time
permitting).

Please take a look, keep us posted on your progress, and tell your
friends about ClamAID if it helps you. If you have any questions or
run into problems then please let us know (support@).

Thanks!

_M

-- 
Pete McNeil
Chief Scientist,
Arm Research Labs, LLC.


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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread Andrew Wallo

Team,  Sniffer Folks, Beta Testers:

I've handled most of the testing and the development so I'll do my best to 
reply: (I'll respond inline to A.Schmidt's inquiries.


_Andy Wallo




- The engine for official Windows build I found (http://w32.clamav.net/)
was out of date (but still usable) and had problems with trailing
backslashes the way that Declude was passing them.


Sadly, this is an issue of the very overworked and newly promoted head of 
project management at ClamAV.  He has handled the port up to this point, but 
due to other demands, has not rebuilt the current stable windows port, nor 
delegated that task.  ClamAV does state that they intend to keep their 
Windows port however. ( There has been some concern what with the cgwyn 
versions come to a close etc. )   I am keeping tabs on this, so that at the 
earliest possible moment, we can push a rebuild of ClamAID with the upgraded 
port.


This does NOT affect the side of the system that downloads new/daily 
databases, etc.  ( Freshclam.exe is wrapped with XYNTService as FreshClamSVC 
and will run periodically in the background. )



- The ClamWin build was current, but resisted any attempt to run it as a
service.


ClamD ( and FreshClam) are fully wrapped with XYNTService, and allow the 
Declude users to use clamdscan.exe instead of the very time and cpu 
consuming clamscan.exe  ( Thus saving the re-booting of the clam databasses 
etc. )



- Either one had the problem that the virus report generated by ClamAV is
not understood by Declude (which looks only for one, very specific 
pattern)
- so one doesn't get the proper virus name passed to messages, log files 
and

virus statistics


I have read about this in some reports, and I've used the Declude 
recommended call for calling Clam... I'd like more information if you have 
it on your specific solution of the name-dissconnect.   open issue?  
However, the ClamAID install sets the system up to have both Declude as well 
as ClamAV log their results.  So the correct view of what is happening 
should be being logged on the ClamAV side, if not fully transparent through 
Declude.



I ended up scripting some middleware between Declude and Clam that would
address the trailing backslash on the input side and the virus name on the
output site.


We haven't detected a trailing backslash issue with clamdscan.exe being 
called from Declude.


Of course, we're not perfect, but we'd definately love to get your read on 
the AID tool.


Thanks.

Andrew Wallo 



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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread Pete McNeil




Hello Steve,

Monday, February 2, 2009, 2:31:17 PM, you wrote:







Any plans on an eWall version?





We may look into that -- however, eWall is a very fast, lightweight solution; SNF is easily fast enough to work during the SMTP conversation; Clam AV is decidedly not that fast. It might not be a good fit to put Clam AV in an SMTP proxy. SNF will reject most email borne malware seen within eWall.

None the less, we will look into it-- I'm sure Clam AV could be scripted into eWall-- perhaps only running on those messages that don't get rejected up-front.

_M


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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread K. Mitchell
At 12:49 2/2/2009 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Sniffer Folks,

We've noticed that folks often have trouble getting Clam AV (the free
open source anti-virus scanner) working correctly on their mail
servers, so we've created a free product to help solve that. ClamAID
(Clam AV Assisted Install Device).

http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp

What ClamIAD does is collect all of the bits and pieces that make
ClamAV work, configure them, install them, and get them running with
your email / filtering platform.

So far ClamAID supports IceWarp, Declude/IMail, and
Declude/SmarterMail.

We will add support for additional platforms as requested (time
permitting).

Is an mxGuard/IMail version in the works?


-- 
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Keystone Connect Unlock Your World
Altoona, PA  814-941-5000   http://www.keyconn.net



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[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Guluk

Any plans on an eWall version?


On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Pete McNeil wrote:


Hello Sniffer Folks,

We've noticed that folks often have trouble getting Clam AV (the free
open source anti-virus scanner) working correctly on their mail
servers, so we've created a free product to help solve that. ClamAID
(Clam AV Assisted Install Device).

http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp

What ClamIAD does is collect all of the bits and pieces that make
ClamAV work, configure them, install them, and get them running with
your email / filtering platform.

So far ClamAID supports IceWarp, Declude/IMail, and
Declude/SmarterMail.

We will add support for additional platforms as requested (time
permitting).

Please take a look, keep us posted on your progress, and tell your
friends about ClamAID if it helps you. If you have any questions or
run into problems then please let us know (support@).

Thanks!

_M

--  
Pete McNeil

Chief Scientist,
Arm Research Labs, LLC.


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Steve Guluk
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(949) 661-9333













[sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

2009-02-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
They offer a ClamAV tie-in:

http://sssolutions.net/ew/tutor.php?topic=setup

From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On Behalf
Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Announcing ClamAID - Clam AV installer for windows.

 

Hello Steve,

 

Monday, February 2, 2009, 2:31:17 PM, you wrote:

 


 

Any plans on an eWall version?

 

We may look into that -- however, eWall is a very fast, lightweight
solution; SNF is easily fast enough to work during the SMTP conversation;
Clam AV is decidedly not that fast. It might not be a good fit to put Clam
AV in an SMTP proxy. SNF will reject most email borne malware seen within
eWall.

 

None the less, we will look into it-- I'm sure Clam AV could be scripted
into eWall-- perhaps only running on those messages that don't get rejected
up-front.

 

_M

 

 

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Pete McNeil

Chief Scientist,

Arm Research Labs, LLC.

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