[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
anyone getting mailthrough yet?
Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
From: Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech
SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:20 PMTo: Message
Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Not really much any of
us can do unless someone has a friend who has a friend but its a
problem none the less as yahoo also sells their services to host email
commercially for any domain that will pay them
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:44
PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Here is the error we are getting now
on any mail to Yahoo: Unexpected connection response from
server:
Out of curiosity, I ran "yahoo.com"
through DNSREPORT.COM and it said:
ERROR: I could not complete a connection to any of your
mailservers!
So I guess I'll stop worrying about
it and wait for them to fix their problem.
Agree?
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Tech
Support
To: Message
Sniffer Community
Sent: Tuesday,
October 17, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: [sniffer]
Re: yahoo mail problems
Its a variety
actually
MS
DNS
SimpleDNS
And bind on linux I
believe
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jim Matuska Jr.Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:49
PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Would you happen to
be running Microsoft DNS server? I ran into something similar a while
back with certain dns queries were corrupted for domains that used certain
extended dns queries. It turned out in our case that our firewalls were
removing the ends of the extended dns packets because they were over
limit. Have you made any firewall changes recently?
Jim Matuska
Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Weird. I found that only
certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can
successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try
mail to this addressfrom my domain, it
fails.
The other error we are seeing
is: rl-recv: connection reset
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Tech
Support
To: Message
Sniffer Community
Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject:
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
This issue is
occurring for us with the following platforms
Windows with Imail,
smartermail Mail enable
Linux about ½ our
cpanel servers
Exchange servers
at least 1/3 of them
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27
PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Are those of us having this
problem all running an Imail server?
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Matrosity
Hosting
To: Message Sniffer Community
Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject:
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
same
here
Bill Foresman
Matrosity
Hosting www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Thanks, but were
not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been
deferred L
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
I would recommend checking
your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce
error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue.
www.dnsstuff.com is a good
resource.
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Matrosity Hosting wrote: anyone getting mailthrough yet? It was suggested that we try this command: telenet mx1.mail.yahoo.com 25 I have found that this fails about 4 out of 5 times. If you keep trying it, it will eventually connect. I would sure like to know what this is. Anyone know? Michael SteinComputer House
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
oops I spelled Telnet wrong. Sorry - Original Message - From: Computer House Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Matrosity Hosting wrote: anyone getting mailthrough yet? It was suggested that we try this command: telenet mx1.mail.yahoo.com 25 I have found that this fails about 4 out of 5 times. If you keep trying it, it will eventually connect. I would sure like to know what this is. Anyone know? Michael SteinComputer House
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Yes, we're having the same problem here. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:51 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
http://www.dnsreport.com/ is another good site to test your dns/email setup as well. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
We have had this issue intermittently for the last 2 days only on one mail server. Tech Support wrote: I’m sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
We are running imail. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply addeda DNS zone forYahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get tojust a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Telnet to mx1.mail.yahoo.com on port 25 likewise try mx2 3 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply addeda DNS zone forYahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get tojust a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Would you happen to be running Microsoft DNS server? I ran into something similar a while back with certain dns queries were corrupted for domains that used certain extended dns queries. It turned out in our case that our firewalls were removing the ends of the extended dns packets because they were over limit. Have you made any firewall changes recently? Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
mx3 appears to respond Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply addeda DNS zone forYahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get tojust a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
I seem to have no problems with postfix. Oct 17 10:49:54 smtp postfix/smtp[12057]: E531D1CD02: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx3.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.74]:25, delay=2.5, delays=0.05/0.01/0.4/2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel) I checked the logs from yesterday also and have not had any issues. Jacques Brouwers From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matrosity Hosting Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems mx3 appears to respond Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply added a DNS zone for Yahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get to just a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Here’s what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has it’s own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again – but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further, yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred ☹ From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems I’m sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks ☺ We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
ok, it worked once. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matrosity HostingSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:50 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems mx3 appears to respond Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply addeda DNS zone forYahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get tojust a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Thanks for the suggestion. I did the Telnet test to MX1 and it fails from the mail server, but connects ok from my web server. Any ideas? Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Telnet to mx1.mail.yahoo.com on port 25 likewise try mx2 3 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:44 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael SteinComputer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours nowthese are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Here is the error we are getting now on any mail to
Yahoo: Unexpected connection response
from server:
Out of curiosity, I ran "yahoo.com" through DNSREPORT.COM
and it said:
ERROR: I could not complete a connection to any of your mailservers!
So I guess I'll stop worrying about it and wait for them
to fix their problem. Agree?
Michael SteinComputer House
- Original Message -
From:
Tech
Support
To: Message Sniffer Community
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:47
PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Its a variety
actually
MS
DNS
SimpleDNS
And bind on linux I
believe
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jim Matuska Jr.Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:49
PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Would you happen to
be running Microsoft DNS server? I ran into something similar a while
back with certain dns queries were corrupted for domains that used certain
extended dns queries. It turned out in our case that our firewalls were
removing the ends of the extended dns packets because they were over
limit. Have you made any firewall changes recently?
Jim Matuska
Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Weird. I found that only
certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can
successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try
mail to this addressfrom my domain, it
fails.
The other error we are seeing
is: rl-recv: connection reset
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Tech
Support
To: Message
Sniffer Community
Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject:
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
This issue is
occurring for us with the following platforms
Windows with Imail,
smartermail Mail enable
Linux about ½ our
cpanel servers
Exchange servers
at least 1/3 of them
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27
PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Are those of us having this
problem all running an Imail server?
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Matrosity
Hosting
To: Message Sniffer Community
Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject:
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
same
here
Bill Foresman
Matrosity
Hosting www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tech SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
Thanks, but were
not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been
deferred L
From:
Message Sniffer Community
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Computer House SupportSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54
AMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail
problems
I would recommend checking
your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce
error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue.
www.dnsstuff.com is a good
resource.
Michael SteinComputer
House
- Original Message -
From: Tech Support
To: Message Sniffer Community
Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject:
[sniffer] yahoo mail problems
Im sorry to post this here
but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming
a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find
truly technical mail server folks J
We seem to be having multiple mail servers on
multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Not really much any of us can do unless someone has a friend who has a friend but its a problem none the less as yahoo also sells their services to host email commercially for any domain that will pay them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Here is the error we are getting now on any mail to Yahoo: Unexpected connection response from server: Out of curiosity, I ran yahoo.com through DNSREPORT.COM and it said: ERROR: I could not complete a connection to any of your mailservers! So I guess I'll stop worrying about it and wait for them to fix their problem. Agree? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Its a variety actually MS DNS SimpleDNS And bind on linux I believe From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Jr. Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:49 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Would you happen to be running Microsoft DNS server? I ran into something similar a while back with certain dns queries were corrupted for domains that used certain extended dns queries. It turned out in our case that our firewalls were removing the ends of the extended dns packets because they were over limit. Have you made any firewall changes recently? Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Not really chances are a few tries several seconds apart will yield the reverse on both servers From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:00 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks for the suggestion. I did the Telnet test to MX1 and it fails from the mail server, but connects ok from my web server. Any ideas? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Telnet to mx1.mail.yahoo.com on port 25 likewise try mx2 3 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
