RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

2004-10-20 Thread Frank Osako
Hello _M

_ Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog

See a reduction of what in their backlog? Can you give an example of how
to see this type of measurement?

Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:44 AM
To: Jorge Asch
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:19:12 PM, Jorge wrote:


  I am particularly interested to hear from MDaemon users who should  
 realize a multi-fold improvement in processing speed by using this  
 new version of persistent server. This is one of the critical goals  
 of these modifications and preliminary responses support that we  
 have achieved this goal.
  

JA I run Mdaemon and I proces about 10K message a day. What things 
JA should I look for? How can I know the performance has actually improved?

That's a good question. 10K/day is not very large so you may not see an
improvement easily. What you are looking for is higher throughput, or more
precisely, that your system is able to process more messages in a given
period of time.

Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog.

Systems that have periods of heavy activity should see the these peaks
handled more quickly.

Hope this helps,

_M




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RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

2004-10-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If I might butt in ...

If you fire up Task Manager on a windows machine (or your favourite ps tool
elsewhere), and set the View, Update Speed to High, then sort by the name in
reverse, you will see multiple sniffer.exe and one with a PID that doesn't
change.  That's your persistent instance.

What you should see is that all other instances of sniffer.exe wink in and
out, with an ever-changing PID.  So far, so good.

Under a heavy load, your system is slow enough that you will see multiple
sniffer.exe instances, and maybe they are using CPU and maybe not, depending
on where the CPU load on your system is coming from.

If those multiple instances are all using a small amount of RAM, and only
the persistent instance uses 4,000 KB of memory, then the code is working
well for you.  The client instances are loading the rulebase.

If some of those instances also have 4,000 KB of memory allocated, then they
have gotten impatient and decided to load the rulebase and process the
message for themselves.  If you have a lot of impatient clients, they will
exacerbate your memory and CPU stress, thus the new 2-3.0i8 code that lets
them wait longer.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Frank Osako [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.


Hello _M

_ Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog

See a reduction of what in their backlog? Can you give an example of how
to see this type of measurement?

Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:44 AM
To: Jorge Asch
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:19:12 PM, Jorge wrote:


  I am particularly interested to hear from MDaemon users who should
 realize a multi-fold improvement in processing speed by using this  
 new version of persistent server. This is one of the critical goals  
 of these modifications and preliminary responses support that we  
 have achieved this goal.
  

JA I run Mdaemon and I proces about 10K message a day. What things
JA should I look for? How can I know the performance has actually improved?

That's a good question. 10K/day is not very large so you may not see an
improvement easily. What you are looking for is higher throughput, or more
precisely, that your system is able to process more messages in a given
period of time.

Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog.

Systems that have periods of heavy activity should see the these peaks
handled more quickly.

Hope this helps,

_M




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RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

2004-10-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Whups, I missed out an important NOT in the second-to-last paragraph.
Corrected version is below:

-Original Message-
From: Colbeck, Andrew 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:29 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.


If I might butt in ...

If you fire up Task Manager on a windows machine (or your favourite ps tool
elsewhere), and set the View, Update Speed to High, then sort by the name in
reverse, you will see multiple sniffer.exe and one with a PID that doesn't
change.  That's your persistent instance.

What you should see is that all other instances of sniffer.exe wink in and
out, with an ever-changing PID.  So far, so good.

Under a heavy load, your system is slow enough that you will see multiple
sniffer.exe instances, and maybe they are using CPU and maybe not, depending
on where the CPU load on your system is coming from.

If those multiple instances are all using a small amount of RAM, and only
the persistent instance uses 4,000 KB of memory, then the code is working
well for you.  The client instances are NOT loading the rulebase.

If some of those instances also have 4,000 KB of memory allocated, then they
have gotten impatient and decided to load the rulebase and process the
message for themselves.  If you have a lot of impatient clients, they will
exacerbate your memory and CPU stress, thus the new 2-3.0i8 code that lets
them wait longer.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Frank Osako [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.


Hello _M

_ Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog

See a reduction of what in their backlog? Can you give an example of how
to see this type of measurement?

Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:44 AM
To: Jorge Asch
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:19:12 PM, Jorge wrote:


  I am particularly interested to hear from MDaemon users who should 
 realize a multi-fold improvement in processing speed by using this
 new version of persistent server. This is one of the critical goals  
 of these modifications and preliminary responses support that we  
 have achieved this goal.
  

JA I run Mdaemon and I proces about 10K message a day. What things 
JA should I look for? How can I know the performance has actually 
JA improved?

That's a good question. 10K/day is not very large so you may not see an
improvement easily. What you are looking for is higher throughput, or more
precisely, that your system is able to process more messages in a given
period of time.

Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog.

Systems that have periods of heavy activity should see the these peaks
handled more quickly.

Hope this helps,

_M




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Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

2004-10-20 Thread Ken Scott


 Hello _M

 _ Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog

 See a reduction of what in their backlog? Can you give an example of how
 to see this type of measurement?

a reduction of mail waiting for processing in your spool of course.

for example, right now, my backlog is at around 800,
if this new sniffer works the way they say, we should only
have around 200-300 in our backlog, which is normal for emails
waiting for resend because a host  was unavailable, something like that,

we have no installed the new updated as of yet, since our production server
moves around 800,000 emails per day. we cannot take any chances.

-Ken


 Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:44 AM
 To: Jorge Asch
 Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i8 published.

 On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:19:12 PM, Jorge wrote:


   I am particularly interested to hear from MDaemon users who should
  realize a multi-fold improvement in processing speed by using this
  new version of persistent server. This is one of the critical goals
  of these modifications and preliminary responses support that we
  have achieved this goal.
 
 
 JA I run Mdaemon and I proces about 10K message a day. What things
 JA should I look for? How can I know the performance has actually
improved?

 That's a good question. 10K/day is not very large so you may not see an
 improvement easily. What you are looking for is higher throughput, or more
 precisely, that your system is able to process more messages in a given
 period of time.

 Systems with heavier loads _should_ see a reduction in their backlog.

 Systems that have periods of heavy activity should see the these peaks
 handled more quickly.

 Hope this helps,

 _M




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