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RE: Mutliple Soap-Containers

2002-03-22 Thread Colin Saxton

What context have you set the rpcrouter servlet to ?? is it the same for all
of them?

-Original Message-
From: David Hirst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 March 2002 12:20
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Subject: Mutliple Soap-Containers


Is it possible to have multiple applications (ear file) that have a
seperate soap-container associated with it. So app1 has it's own
soap.war file and app2 has it's own. What I'm running into seems to be
that despite adding init parms to the web.xml file and creating a
soap.xml file, both application still seem to be using the same
underlying registry (each application is also using a different
configuration manager) Is this behavior possible? Has anyone
accomplished what I'm looking for?

Thanks,
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RE: Mutliple Soap-Containers

2002-03-22 Thread Colin Saxton

Within the ear files meta directory you will have an application.xml
file...The soap webapp will be listing in here with a context-root
element...Most likely they will all have the same context, guessing that it
is set to 'soap' for all of them!!

These will need to be different for each ear so that they do not goto the
same context

-Original Message-
From: David Hirst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 March 2002 12:48
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Subject: Re: Mutliple Soap-Containers


I'm not sure what you mean, so the answer is probably that the context is
the
same for all of them. How would I go abotu changing this?

Colin Saxton wrote:

 What context have you set the rpcrouter servlet to ?? is it the same for
all
 of them?

 -Original Message-
 From: David Hirst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 March 2002 12:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mutliple Soap-Containers

 Is it possible to have multiple applications (ear file) that have a
 seperate soap-container associated with it. So app1 has it's own
 soap.war file and app2 has it's own. What I'm running into seems to be
 that despite adding init parms to the web.xml file and creating a
 soap.xml file, both application still seem to be using the same
 underlying registry (each application is also using a different
 configuration manager) Is this behavior possible? Has anyone
 accomplished what I'm looking for?

 Thanks,
 Dave

 
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RE: HELP : xsi:null=true

2002-03-13 Thread Colin Saxton

Its xsi:nil and not xsi:null for specifying that an element value holds a
null value...

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Sent: 12 March 2002 20:12
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Subject: Re: HELP : xsi:null=true


Not mentioned:
using orion 5.2
apache soap 2.2 

And the TestSerializable is registered to the BeanSerializer

Please help !!! 


 Problems encontered and don't know if this is apache's fault or I am doing
 something wrong.

 I send the message as xml schema 1999 .

 I have a bean that contains some null values and is serialized like this
 item xsi:type=n1:test.TestSerializable
 number xsi:type=xsd:int0/number
 name xsi:null=true /
 valid xsi:null=true /
 testVector xsi:null=true /
 /item

 (is part of a Vector, of course)

 On serverside I get the following exception :
 faultstringNo mapping found for ':name' using encoding style
 'http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/'./faultstring

 When I send a TestSerizable with a name but with valid == null then I get
 the same exception, but for :valid . And so on.

 Does apache soap 2.2 knows to use xsi:null (even if using schema 1999) ? I
 have tried with schema 2000 and still the same .

 Or else, what is wrong inhere ? I have no idea.

 Please , need quick help, deadline comming :o(
 dovle



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RE: EJB SOAP

2002-03-13 Thread Colin Saxton



One 
thing Ihave notice when calling EJBs directlyis that theyare 
slow compared to using an AccessBean which in-turn calls the EJB...you may want 
to try it...

  -Original Message-From: Nortje, Andrew 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 13 March 2002 14:19To: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: EJB  
  SOAP
  
  Thanks that did 
  it!
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Gayatri 
  Irani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 
  2002 5:26 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: EJB  
  SOAP
  
  Hi...
  
  The 
  deployment descriptor looks ok other than the following one 
  line:
  isd:java 
  class="com.jazzman.contact.ContactManagementBean"/ 
  
  
  should be replaced 
  by
  
  isd:option 
  key="JNDIName" value="your JNDI name"/
  
  Hope 
  this works, all the best!
  
  
  ---
  Gayatri 
  IraniPrincipal 
  Software DeveloperCimetrics Inc.www.cimetrics.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Work: 
  617.350.7550, Cell:508.740.2888
  -Original 
  Message-From: Nortje, 
  Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 
  2002 3:55 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: EJB  
  SOAP
  
  Hi SOAP 
  Users
  
  I'm real new to Apache SOAP and 
  SOAP/XML in general so forgive the basic questions. 
  
  
  I have installed Apache SOAP and 
  run some of the demo's, all working fine. I am now trying to setup a SOAP rpc 
  service for an existing EJB installation I have running under JBoss and
  Tomcat.
  
  What is somewhat confusing
  is:
  - 
  The deployment descriptor for the 
  sample ejb has only one create method defined, what about the hello() 
  'business' method, why is it not in the 
  descriptor?
  - 
  Where does one define the JNDI 
  name of your EJB, there's place to define the URL and factory for the JNDI but 
  no place for the JNDI name of the EJB.
  
  Anyway I deployed my SAOP service 
  fine knowing there are probably some errors in the deployment descriptor and 
  get the following error:
  
  [ERROR,Default] 
  =
  [ERROR,Default] In 
  TemplateProvider.locate()
  [ERROR,Default] URI: 
  urn:ContactManagement
  [ERROR,Default] DD.ServiceClass: 
  org.apache.soap.providers.StatelessEJBProvider
  [ERROR,Default] DD.ProviderClass: 
  com.jazzman.contact.ContactManagementBean
  [ERROR,Default] Call.MethodName: 
  getContacts
  [INFO,Default] Exception caught: 
  javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException: http
  [Root exception is 
  java.net.UnknownHostException: http]
  
  Here is my deployment 
  descriptor
  
  ?xml 
  version="1.0"?
  
  isd:service 
  xmlns:isd="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap/deployment" 
  id="urn:ContactManagement"
   isd:provider 
  
   
  type="org.apache.soap.providers.StatelessEJBProvider" 
  
   scope="Application" 
  
   methods="create
  getContacts addContact"
  
   isd:java 
  class="com.jazzman.contact.ContactManagementBean"/
   isd:option 
  key="FullHomeInterfaceName" 
  value="com.jazzman.contact.ContactManagementHome"/
   isd:option 
  key="ContextProviderURL" 
  value="http://localhost:1099"/
   isd:option 
  key="FullContextFactoryName" 
  value="org.jnp.interfaces.NamingContextFactory"/
   
  /isd:provider
   
   
  isd:faultListenerorg.apache.soap.server.DOMFaultListener/isd:faultListener
  
  /isd:service
  
  Any ideas what I'm doing wrong or 
  where I can look for answers.
  
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  
  Andrew
  


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RE: Performance problems

2002-03-08 Thread Colin Saxton

I have had these problems with SOAP2.2...I think that it is to do with the
way the message is parsed in memory...To get round the problem we moved to
using Axis which has all of the functionality that we are using in the Alpha
version.

-Original Message-
From: Juan Gargiulo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 March 2002 02:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Performance problems


Hi,

I'm using the Apache SOAP server under Weblogic 5.1 (sp10), with a
stateless SessionEjb service. On the client side I'm using the SOAP
client side API.

My client loads and sends a string to the server, and the server
processes this string. But I'm finding that this is dexterously slow
with big strings (20 bytes). According to some measures that I took,
the bottleneck is happening on the SOAP server, there is a huge gap
between when the client sends the call to the RPC servlet, and the
actual method in the EJB is called.

1. Did any of you experienced performance problems with this
configuration? 
2. Can somebody explain briefly what is going on since the rpcrouter
servlet receives the request and the actual method in the EJB is called?


Thanks in advance!!


juan




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RE: Soap client threads

2002-03-06 Thread Colin Saxton
Title: Soap client threads



Each 
client thread should create a new instance of the client side 
SOAPobject...you should have no problems here...
(Make 
sure that you are not using the same SOAP object across threads...that would 
cause synchronization problems).

Java 
does allow you to have multiple sockets open on multiple threads...(How many 
depends on how much memory and the OS)


  -Original Message-From: Beer, Christian 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 06 March 2002 09:43To:
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: AW: Soap client 
  threads
  I 
  think for the SOAP toolkit that's no problem. But does Java allow many sockets 
  open from many threads?
  
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: Michael Weir 
(Transform Research) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Gesendet: 
Dienstag, 5. März 2002 22:04An: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Betreff: Soap client 
threads
Does the Apache SOAP toolkit 
allow many client-side threads to concurrently send SOAP messages? I'm 
trying to build a stress-tester for a server, and want to bash it as hard as 
possible.
Thanks, Michael Weir 



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RE: porting from socket to SOAP

2002-03-01 Thread Colin Saxton

I think you can setup HTTPS with minimal problems using java (jdk1.4 has
direct support for https) but I would encourage you to think stateless with
your design...once you open a connection to the server you are taking up a
valuable resource...if you make it persistant then it is no longer a shared
resource making your application less scalable. Your server load would begin
to become unmanagible the more users logged in...If it is an intranet
application then you should be OK, in some respects. If it is an Internet
application then your server is going to die...

Unless, I am guessing here, you are leaving the server to manage the backend
connections which are swapped from client to client?? 

Anyway...you could set this up yourself with a servlet.

You could connect to the servlet from a java client using the
URL.openConnection which would return a URLConnection object...This object
would allow you to send input and receive output from the servlet which in
turn could sit in a loop retreiving and writing data back to the client...

If you would like a sample peice of code showing you how this is done then
drop me a mail and I can supply a zip...



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RE: porting from socket to SOAP

2002-02-28 Thread Colin Saxton



Most 
implementations of SOAP use HTTP which means the connection is closed after each 
client request (or possibly closed). This means that any data sent from the 
server must first come from a client request.

It 
also depends on the nodes that are communicating. To implement effecient 
communication along the lines of what you want would mean having 2 
J2EEcommunicating using message driven beans, a bit like B2B. 


1. [A] 
sends a SOAP request to [B] which is then forwarded to a Message Driven 
Bean.
2. The 
bean then periodically sends SOAP updates to [A], you can catch this using any 
method you like on node [A]. The hard part is once you have received the message 
on server [A] then you would need to forward this message to the client 
application
 
 a. One way of doing that would be to have the client 
application become a SocketServer. you could then connect to this from within 
the J2EE server on node [A] using an EJB as a socketClient (which is permitted 
in the specifications) and forward the data down the 
socket...

 You may ask what you gain from the 
above setup since you are aready using SOAP?? The biggest advantage would be 
that you can communicate across the internet with the above example through any 
fire wall. Another example is that you never have to have a continuous 
connection. You could make your client application server socket a pooled 
resource making the code more scalable...


Although it does seem overkill and probably harder to setup at first 
there would be advantages. The reason you have not found anyone doing this yet 
is because it is only really just being developed to its potential by individual 
companies...you would be a first!
-Original 
Message-From: Mike Brown 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 28 February 2002 
06:36To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: porting from 
socket to SOAP

  
  Hi, I am currently researching the use of 
  XML based protocols for messaging in an application we currently have that 
  uses TCP/IP sockets. 
  
  In the application, two programs A and B 
  communicate using sockets. A connects to B and asks B to send 
  asyncronous data updates over the socket. If B terminates, A is notified 
  (uses a select() behavior) and marks the data from B as stale (so it won't be 
  displayed to a user, etc...).
  
  I need to keep the functionality of the existing 
  application, but would like to use SOAP if possible as it seems to be the 
  upcoming standard. Any ideas? I know I'm not the first to try to 
  solve this problem, but I can't seem to find the solution posted 
  anywhere. I'm not really sure that sessions or cookies can solve my 
  problem.
  
  Thanks!
  Mike


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RE: porting from socket to SOAP

2002-02-28 Thread Colin Saxton




With comments like this 


"This means that any data sent from 
the server must first come from a client request." 
(SEEBELOW)

you would think that it was Monday 
morning!! (doh...)my apologies but you get what I mean...(I 
hope!!)

  -Original Message-From: Colin Saxton 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 28 February 2002 09:39To: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: porting from socket to 
  SOAP
  Most 
  implementations of SOAP use HTTP which means the connection is closed after 
  each client request (or possibly closed). This means that any data sent from 
  the server must first come from a client request.
  
  It 
  also depends on the nodes that are communicating. To implement effecient 
  communication along the lines of what you want would mean having 2 
  J2EEcommunicating using message driven beans, a bit like B2B. 
  
  
  1. 
  [A] sends a SOAP request to [B] which is then forwarded to a Message Driven 
  Bean.
  2. 
  The bean then periodically sends SOAP updates to [A], you can catch this using 
  any method you like on node [A]. The hard part is once you have received the 
  message on server [A] then you would need to forward this message to the 
  client application
   
   a. One way of doing that would be to have the client 
  application become a SocketServer. you could then connect to this from within 
  the J2EE server on node [A] using an EJB as a socketClient (which is permitted 
  in the specifications) and forward the data down the 
  socket...
  
   You may ask what you gain from the 
  above setup since you are aready using SOAP?? The biggest advantage would be 
  that you can communicate across the internet with the above example through 
  any fire wall. Another example is that you never have to have a continuous 
  connection. You could make your client application server socket a pooled 
  resource making the code more scalable...
  
  
  Although it does seem overkill and probably harder to setup at first 
  there would be advantages. The reason you have not found anyone doing this yet 
  is because it is only really just being developed to its potential by 
  individual companies...you would be a first!
  -Original 
  Message-From: Mike Brown 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 28 February 2002 
  06:36To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: porting from 
  socket to SOAP
  

Hi, I am currently researching the use of 
XML based protocols for messaging in an application we currently have that 
uses TCP/IP sockets. 

In the application, two programs A and B 
communicate using sockets. A connects to B and asks B to send 
asyncronous data updates over the socket. If B terminates, A is 
notified (uses a select() behavior) and marks the data from B as stale (so 
it won't be displayed to a user, etc...).

I need to keep the functionality of the 
existing application, but would like to use SOAP if possible as it seems to 
be the upcoming standard. Any ideas? I know I'm not the first to 
try to solve this problem, but I can't seem to find the solution posted 
anywhere. I'm not really sure that sessions or cookies can solve my 
problem.

Thanks!
MikeThis 
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DOM or SAX??

2001-12-10 Thread Colin Saxton

I have had a quick look at the open-source code and have found that it relys
mainly on the DOM for the SOAP request and SOAP response...

Is there any plans to write an all singing SAX version of the libraries?

DOM works fine for small SOAP messages but once you get above 50k you will
start to see it slowdown...(especially if one of your passes strings
contains XML?!).



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Carriage returns

2001-06-13 Thread Colin Saxton
Title: RE: compatibility with weblogic 6.1 beta



One 
problem I have noticed with Apache SOAP is that it translates CRLF to just LF 
when receiving Strings from a Client!!

Is 
this correct?...it does no happen with MS SOAP..it leaves them well 
alone...

You 
will need to code for this if you are comparing 2 strings to see if they have 
changed...even though the client does not touch the string it is updated by 
apache?!?


RE: Exception! java2wsdl tool

2001-06-13 Thread Colin Saxton

It probably cannot see the class you are trying to generate the WSDL
against.
With most object to wsdl converters you need to put the package name in
before the Class name so that it can resolve the class...so...

MyClass.class

would be

mypackage.another.MyClass

If you are also asked for a path then you will need to enter the path name
to the top package ONLY.

so instead of doing the following

c:/temp/mypackage/another

you would type

c:/temp

From there it would find the class...I hope this helps

-Original Message-
From: Joseph George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 June 2001 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Exception! java2wsdl tool


James,
i get this exception when i try to run your tool:

java org.apache.axis.utils.wsdl.Java2WSDL -c exampleTry.class -e
http://localhost:8080/soap/servlet/rpcrouter -n urn:try:exampleTry
Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/axis/utils/Options
at org.apache.axis.utils.wsdl.Java2WSDL.java2wsdl(Java2WSDL.java)
at org.apache.axis.utils.wsdl.Java2WSDL.init(Java2WSDL.java)
at org.apache.axis.utils.wsdl.Java2WSDL.main(Java2WSDL.java)

there's no class named Options...

-Joseph.

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 I uploaded a pre-pre-alpha version of a java2wsdl tool to the axis-dev
 mailing list.  You can find the jar in the archives...

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IIS and Apache SOAP Client

2001-06-06 Thread Colin Saxton

Apache SOAP client does not work on IIS.  IIS sends:
...
Content-Type:text/xml; charset=utf-8
...

Where as Apache sends

...
Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
...

Notice the extra space after Content-Type:.

An Exception is thrown in the SOAP client (GetAddress example) that states
the content type should be text/xml but it is read as ext/xml?? I think this
is because of the extra space...has anyone had this problem?

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RE: Advantage of SOAP against RMI ???

2001-06-05 Thread Colin Saxton

I think that the problem lies deeply in the way that developers, in general,
program for distributed computing...We should not rely on the top down
command running after command approach. We should program using an event
model...what I would like to see is applications that fire off a request and
then wait for the response/responses which are sent back through another
protocol...say for instance SMTP...the responses can then be collated and
passed to the client as an event...this event would then signal that the
program can continue...

I think that the Java Spaces technology is on the brink of a revolution here
since it could easily extend the Space interface to include spaces that
handled soap requests...you would

1. Place your requests in the space...

2. You would have a soap service that would sit on the space waiting for
soap tasks...these would be taken from the space and distributed to a server

3. The soap service would then look at the space once more waiting for tasks
that needed to be processed...

4. Meanwhile...SOAP tasks would be processed and then posted back to the
soap service which is monitoring the space...all finished tasks would then
be placed back in the space when they are received in the finished queue, so
to speak...

5. While all this is happening the client can be waiting for the finished
tasks to be placed back in the queue...where they would be extracted and
processed...the whole process then starts again...

The is a better way of handling distributed computing...The technologies
that are available for java now could implement this solution with minimal
problems.

I can not understand why sun haven't already released a toolkit that sits
round this implementation??...(if they have then ignore me!)


-Original Message-
From: Peter Govind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2001 14:35
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Advantage of SOAP against RMI ???


Agree.

If you look at the web services articles around at the mo' they seem to 
paint a picture whereby a client app can access a multitude of web services.

Sure that's nice. Then again, in reality the call/invocation is a bit on the

expensive side (ie take time) - even on one web service only. Things will 
definitely get worse once a particular client's 'request' (I use the term 
loosely here) requires invocation of methods from several different web 
services spread throughout the inter/intranet. Imagine the time the user has

to wait before getting a response!

Let's not forget that XML processing does require some CPU cycle (ie waiting

time) - this couple with Java (after 6 years and with availability of higher

CPU power, still a bit on the slow side) does put a hefty baggage on the 
concept of one client using several web services.

Don't get me wrong, I think SOAP is a great idea. Just make sure you get as 
many stuff done for one single invocation  and have a very patient 
target audience.


From: Colin Saxton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Advantage of SOAP against RMI ???
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:56:16 +0100

One disadvantage that I have found with SOAP depends on the time taken to
execute the SOAP envelope on the server!!

You could have a call that could take some time and client will more than
likely timeout!

Keep in mind when performing tasks that could take over a minute to do them
as part of a queuing algorithm. The server can then notify the client using
a different protocol to HTTP...

To summarise...SOAP over HTTP does not work well when time taken to execute
the server process is lengthy...You can extend the client timeout but that
in itself can lead to problems...

-Original Message-
From: Ralf Bierig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 June 2001 10:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Advantage of SOAP against RMI ???


Which advantages does SOAP provide compared with RMI?
Whats with SOAP - CORBA ??

Whats are the advantages of SOAP against RMI and whats
are the disadvantages?

Discuss!

Thanks, in advance!
Ralf


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