Re: [RCSE] Programming my Stylus and the Mini Ellipse
At 05:50 PM 12/18/99 -1000, you wrote: I am trying to set up the Mini Ellipse with a Airtronic Stylus radio (with glider card). The set up on the plane is: one elevator servo two servos in the wing (left and right ailerons) I got the programming where I got the differential and spoilerons are set up. But when I try setting up the dual rates for the elevator, I notice when I turn it on and off (the dual rates), there is a slight movement of the elevator and I can't get rid of it. In other words, when I set the dual rates to normal (or off) then turn the dual rates on (meaning less elevator throw) there is a slight "up" deflection of the elevator say about less than 1/16" of an inch. I was thinking it was because the elevator is mixed into something that is causing it to deflect slightly up when I turn it on (but to my knowledge, I didn't mix anything in). Could you help me on this puzzling dilemma? Second post from "glide" regarding follow-up: This is because I found out today from Airtronics that the elevator pots in the transmitter needs realignment. This is causing this slight deflection of the elevator when the d/r are activated. It is a problem that needs to be addressed by the Airtronics service department. It cannot be "programmed" out. Dear Glide, Although there is a high likelyhood that your transmitter needs to be re-calibrated, there is one area that you should check before sending your Stylus to Airtronics. I am ASSUMING that you are using the 2A2FER wing-type AND your elevator dual rate switch is on the left, front switch (switch #13/#14). First, make sure that the vtail is NOT enabled. Even though the Mini-Ellipse has a vtail, you are only using the elevator function and don't want vtail. Disabling the vtail helps simplify the troubleshooting process. Second, scroll to the switch menu (SW) and view the following switch sub-menus to make sure that switch #13 or #14 do NOT appear (are not assigned) in ANY of the following: LAUNCH, REFLEX, GEAR, AUX, E-PST1, E-PST2, AUT-OFST, C-MIX1, C-MIX2, C-MIX3, CB-EL, and EL-CB. Third, if switch #13 or #14 are found assigned in any of the above switch menu items, disable the particular assignment and re-check the elevator offset due to elevator D/R switch actuation. If no switch assignments are found in the above switch menu items, find a sturdy box, insure your Stylus for replacement cost, then send it off to Airtronics. While it is gone, you will be able to experience what it feels like to wait for the snow to melt from the ground ;-) BTW, if you do have to send it back, ask the folks at Airtronics to check the condition of the internal lithium cell as this battery's level can drop causing software pointers and values (i.e. stick calibration values, etc.) to be scrambled (affecting centering). Unlike JR's radios, the Stylus will NOT warn you or indicate that this battery is low. Good luck, Stylus Boy wondering how much Derek Boyer will pay for a spot in Phoenix.. Tom Hoopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC2000, Bethlehem and the Emperor
Derek, RCSE and others who didn't make it into SWC 2000, For 12 years CASL has been hosting the SWC event in Phoenix every February. Of course it started out small with mostly local fliers but now it's grown into a sizable event. It has never been our objective to see if we can become the next Visalia. How much growth can we allow and still put on a quality contest? For almost five years we have had to ask ourselves that. Do we want the event to get bigger at the risk of taking on too much or sacrificing what benefits the contest currently has? We have to weigh the needs and wants of everyone and there are always compromises. For starters, we have shortened rounds and flying times several years in a row to better accommodate the numbers of fliers wanting to attend. No matter how you schedule it no one wants to try to find a thermal 10 minutes after the sun has risen or in the twilight of the day. Remember it is the middle of winter and daylight is short. We also can't very well expect fliers that have come to the event from 18-20 different states, after spending considerable income for airline tickets and lodgings etc., to be happy only flying minutes out of the whole weekend. We are trying to balance all this out. Adding winches would force us to move the entire field layout, possibly bringing back those loud obnoxious gas generators, and would have pilots launching into the sun a good part of the day. Besides the occasional winch malfunction, the real hold up has always been getting the frequencies out and back in. Everything impacts another part of the event, so it just isn't that simple. We are constantly on the PA trying to keep things moving and everyone knows how annoying it is to listen to the impound tent workers barking every 30 seconds about frequency concerns. (Sorry Impound crew) I am not sure I haven't made a mistake by allowing a HL event on Friday. Here again you have to realize we are pulling in a lot of fliers that have been snowed in a good part of the winter and when they arrive they want to practice, trim and test fly. It was my decision to hold the HL events to one plane per frequency and Ray Hayes agreed so things could work out for everyone. In this way we hope the pilots can have open practice on Friday until 10 AM and then resume open practice after the HL events maybe around 2:30 PM. If for some reason (weather, events running longer that expected etc.,) the HL events are not completed by 2:30 PM on Friday then the HL finals would be completed on Saturday afternoon after the first day of the SWC. Again, it is not our desire to see how many fliers we could get into the HL event but rather to provide another bit of flying fun for those who have requested some type of formal HL event. Ray and his helpers are doing all the work on the HL contest so that CASL would not be left short of workers setting up the field on Friday. Another consideration is the task of setting all this up. The SWC outgrew our regular club field 2 years ago and CASL had to find a new location just for this event. Everything on site at this contest has to be loaded up into rental trucks and hauled there by CASL members. CASL spends more on renting this property for 3 days than we spend all year for rent, winches etc. at the club field. It's a beautiful site that can't be matched by any other big contest. Come Sunday afternoon, the entire field has to be torn down, loaded onto the rental trucks and driven back to the club field, rental trucks returned etc. I've individually addressed some of your other concerns below: Derek wrote: Sorry to make a grand re-entrance to the Exchange with a rant, but I got an early Christmas present today (lump of coal?) "Sorry, we are sending this notice to quite a few entries we received recently...We have stopped accepting entries because we are over the 175 limit...[no mas] because we are finishing placing vendor sponsored pilots etc...We just don't have enough daylight in the winter to fly more pilots without having to drop rounds or shorten flight times." At once, this message bummed me and reminded me of a quote from one of the supply guys during my Navy days: "Your lack of planning does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part" That said, I know I must admit that I should've entered earlier. However, you guys may want to re-think this thing. Attendance is a good thing, especially when you're part of the most prestigious series this side of the Worlds. Thank you. We have worked hard to get there. I know that many guys were turned away from the Old Buzzard's HLG events because Ray was directed by the host club that he could only sign up one pilot per frequency. This means that every stinking frequency will have to be accounted for in order to get max turnout. Guess what? He's doing a pretty good job of filling the frequency board because of guys like me who are getting second and third channels just to attend what is
RE: [RCSE] Programming my Stylus and the Mini Ellipse
Thanks Tom for your reply to my message. Well I checked it out and I made sure that the Stylus was set up correctly regarding the switch assignments. Yes, they were setup correctly. No unwanted assignments were made. I will be sending out the tranny to be serviced. I hope that it won't be too long before I get it back from Airtronics. I knew that I was taking a gamble when I bought the tranny second hand over the Internet and figured I would save a few bucks over a new unit. Looks like it didn't work out like I wanted it to I will be paying more than I really wanted. "Let the buyer beware". Aloha to all on RCSE -Original Message- From: Tom Hoopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Programming my Stylus and the Mini Ellipse At 05:50 PM 12/18/99 -1000, you wrote: I am trying to set up the Mini Ellipse with a Airtronic Stylus radio (with glider card). The set up on the plane is: one elevator servo two servos in the wing (left and right ailerons) I got the programming where I got the differential and spoilerons are set up. But when I try setting up the dual rates for the elevator, I notice when I turn it on and off (the dual rates), there is a slight movement of the elevator and I can't get rid of it. In other words, when I set the dual rates to normal (or off) then turn the dual rates on (meaning less elevator throw) there is a slight "up" deflection of the elevator say about less than 1/16" of an inch. I was thinking it was because the elevator is mixed into something that is causing it to deflect slightly up when I turn it on (but to my knowledge, I didn't mix anything in). Could you help me on this puzzling dilemma? Second post from "glide" regarding follow-up: This is because I found out today from Airtronics that the elevator pots in the transmitter needs realignment. This is causing this slight deflection of the elevator when the d/r are activated. It is a problem that needs to be addressed by the Airtronics service department. It cannot be "programmed" out. Dear Glide, Although there is a high likelyhood that your transmitter needs to be re-calibrated, there is one area that you should check before sending your Stylus to Airtronics. I am ASSUMING that you are using the 2A2FER wing-type AND your elevator dual rate switch is on the left, front switch (switch #13/#14). First, make sure that the vtail is NOT enabled. Even though the Mini-Ellipse has a vtail, you are only using the elevator function and don't want vtail. Disabling the vtail helps simplify the troubleshooting process. Second, scroll to the switch menu (SW) and view the following switch sub-menus to make sure that switch #13 or #14 do NOT appear (are not assigned) in ANY of the following: LAUNCH, REFLEX, GEAR, AUX, E-PST1, E-PST2, AUT-OFST, C-MIX1, C-MIX2, C-MIX3, CB-EL, and EL-CB. Third, if switch #13 or #14 are found assigned in any of the above switch menu items, disable the particular assignment and re-check the elevator offset due to elevator D/R switch actuation. If no switch assignments are found in the above switch menu items, find a sturdy box, insure your Stylus for replacement cost, then send it off to Airtronics. While it is gone, you will be able to experience what it feels like to wait for the snow to melt from the ground ;-) BTW, if you do have to send it back, ask the folks at Airtronics to check the condition of the internal lithium cell as this battery's level can drop causing software pointers and values (i.e. stick calibration values, etc.) to be scrambled (affecting centering). Unlike JR's radios, the Stylus will NOT warn you or indicate that this battery is low. Good luck, Stylus Boy wondering how much Derek Boyer will pay for a spot in Phoenix.. Tom Hoopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC2000, Bethlehem and the Emperor
Message text written by "Walter Lynch": at Vegas- who knows how much thats going to cost me- $100/hr??? All I can say is- bring your money people- there might be a good deal on a low time Reminds me of fishing, hunting, sailing, off-road racing, scuba diving, skiing, etc. Just about every "hobby" I have ever had could be shown to be ridiculously expensive when broken downever figured out how much per pound that brook trout you caught on a guided fly-fishing trip to, say, Flaming Gorge costs? Even if there is no money involved there is always lost time- and opportunity to do something else. I like soaring. Worth it. Up late. John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org Most of the problems with our culture can be summed up in one phrase: "Who are you to say?" Dennis Prager RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Cutting Dihedrals
I am a newbie, never worked with composite wings, and have to cut, sand and join panels for the Corn Dogger. right now staring, but not doing, don't want to screw them up. This may sound stupid, but what tool do I use? Can I use a #11 blade? Razor saw? Well placed Karate chop? Will regular 5 min epoxy be ok for gluing? Will I need micro spheres on hand? The wing is so thin (7.4%), will it be strong enough? Can it take a hi start without folding? ( I know...its an HLG). Thanks, Rodger RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC2000, Bethlehem and the Emperor
Derek and Walter-- While I didn't buy a winch, I did drop $4500 on a used travel trailer so I could have a place to take a nap between rounds. Anyone have any hints on how to back this thing up??? Dan p.s.--I was one of the lucky guys that snuck in just under the wire! - Original Message - From: Walter Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Derek Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [RCSE] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC2000, Bethlehem and the Emperor Derek, you wanna hear cost to fly at SWC! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
