Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Thomas Gilliard]

Note that irc works in Soas but is not installed.
Dnf install in sugar terminal works, then call it in terminal.

> On May 12, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Alex Perez  wrote:
> 
> 
> FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm unaware of. 
> Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
> for the sugar packages listed below:
> 
> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
> 
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
> callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tomeu
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Pierre-Yves Chibon 
>> Date: May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
>> To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Subject: Retired packages with maintainers
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> 
>> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue tracker to
>> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>> 
>> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a script 
>> that
>> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather from it 
>> a
>> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so all 
>> branches
>> are ``active=false``).
>> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if they 
>> still
>> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>> 
>> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>> 
>>   https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>> 
>> 
>> Some stats about this:
>> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of 4322 
>> retired
>>   RPMs).
>> - 662 of them are not orphaned
>> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42 retired 
>> modules).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>>   containers).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>> 
>> Which brings a couple of questions:
>> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
>> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not orphaned?
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all 
>> maintainers
>> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your inputs,
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8600
>> [2] https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/extras/active_branches.json (8+Mb file)
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Re: [SoaS] Fedora 32 Final is GO, SoaS Release Candidate ISO available immediately

[Thomas Gilliard]

Thanks

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> There is no irc app
> 
> It's not yet ported to python3, it's being worked upon.
> 
>> satellit
>> 
>> How do we participate?
>> 
>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Alex Perez S wrote:
>> 
>>  The Fedora release team met today and approved the release of Fedora 32, 
>> which is scheduled for this coming Tuesday, April 28th.
>> 
>> The 1.6 Release Candidate ISO for the Fedora 32 SoaS (Sugar on a Stick) 
>> LiveCD/ISO is downloadable from 
>> https://bit.ly/Fedora-32-RC-SoaS-LiveISO-x86_64
>> It is one gigabyte in size.
>> 
>> This is a purely Python 3 based Sugar environment, and Python 2 activities 
>> will not run here at all. This is the first version of Sugar on a Stick to 
>> drop Python 2 completely, and a few of the bundled activities which have yet 
>> to be ported to Python 3 were removed from this release, and will re-appear 
>> at which point the porting and testing of them is complete.
>> 
>> Special thanks to Peter Robinson and Ibiam Chihurumnaya for making the 
>> Sugar-specific bits of this spin possible.
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Re: [SoaS] Fedora 32 Final is GO, SoaS Release Candidate ISO available immediately

[Thomas Gilliard]

There is no irc app
satellit

How do we participate?

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Alex Perez S wrote:
> 
>  The Fedora release team met today and approved the release of Fedora 32, 
> which is scheduled for this coming Tuesday, April 28th. 
> 
> The 1.6 Release Candidate ISO for the Fedora 32 SoaS (Sugar on a Stick) 
> LiveCD/ISO is downloadable from 
> https://bit.ly/Fedora-32-RC-SoaS-LiveISO-x86_64
> It is one gigabyte in size. 
> 
> This is a purely Python 3 based Sugar environment, and Python 2 activities 
> will not run here at all. This is the first version of Sugar on a Stick to 
> drop Python 2 completely, and a few of the bundled activities which have yet 
> to be ported to Python 3 were removed from this release, and will re-appear 
> at which point the porting and testing of them is complete.
> 
> Special thanks to Peter Robinson and Ibiam Chihurumnaya for making the 
> Sugar-specific bits of this spin possible.
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] f30 arm soas now not working and a fix exists..

[Thomas Gilliard]

installed and booted through initial-setup
logged into user as started soas runs fine

Thanks
Tom Gilliard
satellit

On 5/20/19 4:41 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote:


downloading now

thanks

You mean Rpi3B+   (the Rpi3 is older hardware and will not boot 
current builds)


"Fedora supports the the Raspberry Pi Model 2B and 3-series of devices 
including the 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 3CM and 3CM+ in Fedora 29 and later 
releases." [1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#Raspberry_Pi


Tom Gilliard

satellit

[1]

On 5/20/19 4:25 PM, Alex Perez wrote:

Thomas,

Can you please test this SoaS image on an RPi3? I've integrated the 
initrd in that should fix the problem, and re-created the image from 
it, however it's untested. Please let me know if it works.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1keflpDVnJs4HGmsq-I2nbj7TgMrt1YWK

Regards,
Alex Perez


Thomas Gilliard wrote on 5/19/19 9:01 AM:


Current f30 soas release for a Rpi3B+ (arm) do not boot [1]

There is a solution:

 "if you replace the initramfs with this one - 
https://fedorapeople.org/~pwhalen/soas/initramfs-5.0.9-301.fc30.armv7hl.img 
<https://fedorapeople.org/%7Epwhalen/soas/initramfs-5.0.9-301.fc30.armv7hl.img> 
...it will boot."  on #fedora-arm


Hopefully this can be fixed in a rebuild for f30 arm

Tom Gilliard

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[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#not_working



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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] f30 arm soas now not working and a fix exists..

[Thomas Gilliard]

downloading now

thanks

You mean Rpi3B+   (the Rpi3 is older hardware and will not boot current 
builds)


"Fedora supports the the Raspberry Pi Model 2B and 3-series of devices 
including the 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 3CM and 3CM+ in Fedora 29 and later 
releases." [1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#Raspberry_Pi


Tom Gilliard

satellit

[1]

On 5/20/19 4:25 PM, Alex Perez wrote:

Thomas,

Can you please test this SoaS image on an RPi3? I've integrated the 
initrd in that should fix the problem, and re-created the image from 
it, however it's untested. Please let me know if it works.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1keflpDVnJs4HGmsq-I2nbj7TgMrt1YWK

Regards,
Alex Perez


Thomas Gilliard wrote on 5/19/19 9:01 AM:


Current f30 soas release for a Rpi3B+ (arm) do not boot [1]

There is a solution:

 "if you replace the initramfs with this one - 
https://fedorapeople.org/~pwhalen/soas/initramfs-5.0.9-301.fc30.armv7hl.img 
<https://fedorapeople.org/%7Epwhalen/soas/initramfs-5.0.9-301.fc30.armv7hl.img> 
...it will boot."  on #fedora-arm


Hopefully this can be fixed in a rebuild for f30 arm

Tom Gilliard

satellit on freenode #fedora-qa

[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#not_working



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[SoaS] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#File:trisquel_logo.pngTrisquel_8_Sugar_TOAST

[Thomas Gilliard]

Trisquel-sugar works 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#File:trisquel_logo.pngTrisquel_8_Sugar_TOAST


Trisquel 8 sugar 112

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Re: [SoaS] Sugar 0.112 on Fedora 28 SoaS

[Thomas Gilliard]

Installed medawriter usb branched everything netinstall of workstation today to 
ext usb Hd 
Then did dnf groupinstall of sugar-desktop-environment.
Bubble background.
Sugar was 0.112 when selected in gdm.
Had to press f1-f3 to get out of journal to f3 home on first start. (Known bug )

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> We're in Beta freeze for Fedora 28. We have Sugar 0.112, there's
> nightly images for the various architectures at the URLs below. Please
> test so we don't end up in a situation like last cycle where people
> were testing at the last moment before release.
> 
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub//fedora/linux/development/28/Spins/x86_64/iso/
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/28/Spins/armhfp/images/
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/28/Spins/i386/iso/
> 
> One thing to note is there will be a newer CSound package landing
> shortly, it's been upgraded from 6.03 to the latest 6.10 and I've no
> idea if the API has changed and if it will affect any of the
> Activities using it. You'll be able to testing by doing a "dnf
> upgrade" once booted.
> 
> Peter
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Re: [SoaS] Browse fails to launch in SoaS Fedora 27 beta

[Thomas Gilliard]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490668#c27


fix works here Using f27workstation - using software installer

thanks

satellit



On 10/28/2017 08:26 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:
After updating SoaS Fedora 27 beta with downloaded 
sugar-*-0.110.0-6.fc27.noarch.rpm, sugar launches but Browse fails to.

Here is the log:
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar3/activity/activity.py:96: 
PyGIWarning: SugarExt was imported without specifying a version first. 
Use gi.require_version('SugarExt', '1.0') before import to ensure that 
the right version gets loaded. from gi.repository import SugarExt 
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", 
line 220, in  main() File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 164, 
in main module = __import__(module_name) File 
"/usr/share/sugar/activities/Browse.activity/webactivity.py", line 58, 
in  from collabwrapper.collabwrapper import CollabWrapper 
ImportError: No module named collabwrapper.collabwrapper Exited with 
status 1, pid 2117 data (', mode 'w' at 
0x7f7e96f0f0c0>, '688cd1c0f3e7f674ceff5e6516598ab17dac0048')



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Re: [SoaS] SoaS Fedora 27 beta fails to launch Sugar session

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 10/26/2017 01:29 PM, James Cameron wrote:

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:00:11AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:54 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:01AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:24 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 07:15:16PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 6:39 PM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 06:13:51PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:
 > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 6:03 PM, James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org>
 wrote:
 > Familiar.  Looks like RHBZ #1490668.
 > [3]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490668
 >
 > Sugar doesn't log to systemd journal, so best log file is still
 > ~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log ... is that file present?
 >
 > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 05:38:21PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:
 > > Tested with Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-27-20171023.n.0.iso (similar
 failure
 > > on Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-27_Beta-1.5.iso)
 > >
 > > The image boots to the liveuser login screen but fails to
 > > launch into the Sugar session.
 > >
 > > journalctl -ab -o short-monotonic > soas27bootjournal.txt
 > >
 > > [4]https://gist.github.com/FGrose/97d834d362c7e1e3f690b97612c673dd
 > >
 > > The lightdm lines look suspicious to me...
 > >
 > > $ grep lightdm /home/fgrose/Documents/soas27bootjournal.txt
 > >
 > > [...]
 > >
 >
 > Yes,
 > Traceback (most recent call last):
 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 174, in _run_module_as_main
 > "__main__", fname, loader, pkg_name)
 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code
 > exec code in run_globals
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/main.py", line 73, in
 
 > from jarabe.view import keyhandler
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/view/keyhandler.py", line
 32,
 > in 
 > from jarabe.journal import journalactivity
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/journal/journalacti
 vity.py",
 > line 45, in 
 > from jarabe.journal.volumestoolbar import VolumesToolbar
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/journal/volumestool
 bar.py",
 > line 42, in 
 > from jarabe.view.palettes import VolumePalette
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/view/palettes.py", line
 38, in
 > 
 > from jarabe.view.viewhelp import setup_view_help
 >   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/view/viewhelp.py", line
 46, in
 > 
 > from jarabe.view.viewhelp_webkit2 import Browser
 > ImportError: No module named viewhelp_webkit2

 Thanks.

 The ImportError suggests file viewhelp_webkit2.py is missing; can you
 confirm that?  It should be right next to
 /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/view/viewhelp.py

ls -la usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/view/
total 432
drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root  4096 Oct 23 08:17 .
drwxr-xr-x. 11 root root  4096 Oct 23 08:17 ..
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  2028 Aug 12 08:30 alerts.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  2647 Aug 12 08:30 alerts.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  2647 Aug 12 08:30 alerts.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  2754 Aug 12 08:30 buddyicon.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  3008 Aug 12 08:30 buddyicon.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  3008 Aug 12 08:30 buddyicon.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  8687 Aug 12 08:30 buddymenu.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  9396 Aug 12 08:30 buddymenu.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  9396 Aug 12 08:30 buddymenu.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  1728 Aug 12 08:30 cursortracker.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  1330 Aug 12 08:30 cursortracker.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  1330 Aug 12 08:30 cursortracker.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  7418 Aug 12 08:30 customizebundle.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  6241 Aug 12 08:30 customizebundle.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  6241 Aug 12 08:30 customizebundle.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  2473 Aug 12 08:30 gesturehandler.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  2896 Aug 12 08:30 gesturehandler.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  2896 Aug 12 08:30 gesturehandler.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root   677 Aug 12 08:30 __init__.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root   143 Aug 12 08:30 __init__.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root   143 Aug 12 08:30 __init__.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  8290 Aug 12 08:30 keyhandler.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  9438 Aug 12 08:30 keyhandler.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  9438 Aug 12 08:30 keyhandler.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  6044 Aug 12 08:30 launcher.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  6752 Aug 12 08:30 launcher.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root  6752 Aug 12 08:30 launcher.pyo
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root 11282 Aug 12 08:30 palettes.py
-rw-r--r--.  2 root root 12132 Aug 12 08:30 palettes.pyc
-rw-r--r--.  

Re: [SoaS] Fwd: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Alpha!

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 03/14/2015 04:15 AM, Jean THIERY wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for this information.

Where can we simply find the newest iso file (Fedora+Sugar) ?


https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC1/Live/

https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC1/Live/x86_64/Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_64-22_Beta-TC1.iso
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC1/Live/i386/Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-22_Beta-TC1.iso

you can also follow links to nightly builds here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Beta_TC1_Installation?rd=Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_23

Tom Gilliard
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Soon on Internet,

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=== Original message ===
Le 10/03/2015 19:52, Peter Robinson a écrit :

Hi All,

Fedora 22 Alpha is out. Please test SoaS v22 :-)

There's a few minor known issues:
* Obviously 0.104.1 isn't in it just yet [1] :-)
* gabble and salut are missing, to fix: sudo yum install
telepathy-gabble telepathy-salut on the command line. This is already
fixed and will be in the nightly builds RSN

There's also a number of Activities that have issues so please test,
fix and if necessary let me know if you need some help!

[1] Update is 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-runner-0.104.1-1.fc22,sugar-datastore-0.104.1-1.fc22,sugar-artwork-0.104.1-1.fc22,sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.104.1-1.fc22,sugar-0.104.1-1.fc22



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   • Database Server Role: Fedora 21 introduced Rolekit, a daemon for
 Linux systems that provides a stable D-Bus interface to manage
 deployment of server roles. The Fedora 22 release adds onto that
 work with a database server role based on PostgreSQL.

   • Cockpit Updates: The Cockpit Web-based management application has
 been updated to the latest 

Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick, USB-HowTo as an Activity, in Home view.

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 02/26/2015 02:28 PM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:

On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 16:53 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:

On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 08:02 -0800, Thomas Gilliard wrote:

...
It is also possible to just run the command: liveusb-creator in root
terminal
after # dnf install liveusb-creator is run.

The new USB-creator will not show the PC harddrive just the USB's as
they are inserted and removed.
It also allows a (dd) overtwrite option [5] or the traditional ability
to set a persistence file.


Thanks for pointing out that liveusb-creator has been upgraded. I will
test it.


I have not previously tested liveusb-creator because of this comment on
[1]:

...Live USB Creator
 (This installation method is NOT recommended for LONG-TERM usage
 of Sugar on a Stick!! Catastrophic data corruption may occur
 when the USB stick gets full! See why.)


Is this critique regarded as valid?

Is it the case that liveusb-creator makes *one only* persistent storage
area, with zero Home filesystem as opposed to livecd-iso-to-disk
creating two?
Live USB Creator  has a new feature is allowing a destructive (dd) 
install to USB [1]

This is a safer way to move the xxx.iso to a USB and make it bootable.
look at the referenced .png and the wiki page link a gave earlier [2]
The fedora 21 installer (root terminal in sugar:#liveinst is shown with 
screenshots and narration here [3]


If you choose persistence and move slider it is only persistent for a 
short time and does corrupt and

stop eventually.

For a slow but really persistent USB install to a 8 GB usb ext4 with no 
swap with liveinst


I use external USB HD all the time to install to and they are cheap and 
quite large these days.


Tom Gilliard
satellit




[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Cinnamon_liveusb-creator_f21.png
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Liveusb_Creator
[3] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#Fedora-21_anaconda_21.48.1-1_installer


With thanks,
Iain

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Windows



Iain


It would be nice to have a sugar-zed icon for this as a activity. (An
.xo wrapper to make it an activity.)

Tom Gilliard
satellit

[5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_22#liveusb-creator


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Re: [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities of Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21-TC3

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 11/23/2014 11:30 AM, Walter Bender wrote:

Could you please attach a log file from Portfolio?

thx


Look at these screen shots

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#F21_TC3_SoaS_Application_Errors_.28log_app.29

Tom Gilliard


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote:

To whom it may concern,

Hello,

Today I run tests on the new version of SoaS live :
Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21-TC3.iso (2014-11-22).
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21_TC3/Live/i386/

Thank you for many improvements compared to
Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso (2014-11).
https://fedoraproject.org/get-spin-prerelease

- Help-18 (replacing) Help-17.2 seems to work normally
- Physics-23 (replacing Physics-22) works OK
- Pippy-62 (replacing Pippy-61) works much better
   (but I found new problems : see a future message).

Walter : THANK YOU for changes in Physics and Pippy

Below you will find comments on

- EToys-116Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Jukebox-??
- Memorize-??  Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Portfolio-44
- Read-??
- Speak-48 Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Write-95

Soon on Internet,

Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]

=== Detailed comments =

Tests were performed on a USB key prepared with
« Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21-TC3.iso » (Nov-2014)
https://fedoraproject.org/get-spin-prerelease

Tests were performed after setting the language into French
(like previous tests on Beta-4).
The corresponding English versions could behave differently !

Systematic tests were not performed,
only simple tests were launched.



General comments


In the French version, there is no icon in the « My parameters » menu
for changing from the Sugar environment into the Gnome environment.

the Safety Wifi Code « Clé de chiffrement » is not stored.
It has to be retyped for each new Wifi connexion.

How can we install an earlier version of an activity
when the present version does not work ?
See below for different activities.



List of Activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
with problems in the TC3 version (2014-11-22)



EToys-116 ==

EToys-116 displays
« Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'initsqueak -m'? »
After clicking on « okay »,
the screen is filled by cars and is not usable.

EToys-113 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed
but EToys-116 was still appearing in the activity list!


Jukebox-?? - 26 ===

*Jukebox* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Jukebox* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Jukebox* line).

Jukebox-26 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Jukebox-26 now appears in the activity circle (*Jukebox* icon)
and in the activity list (*Jukebox* line).
Jukebox-26 seems to works normally.


Memorize-?? - 45 ==

*Memorize* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Memorize* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Memorize* line).

Memorize-45 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Memorize-45 now appears in the activity circle (*Memorize* icon)
 and in the activity list (*Memorize* line).
Memorize-45 seems to works normally.


Portfolio-44 ==

Portfolio-44 cannot start - « Read n'a pas pu être démarré ».


Read-?? - 92 ==

*Read* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Read* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Read* line).

Read-92 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Read-92 does not appear in the activity list.
Read-92 appears in the activity circle
but could not start - « Read n'a pas pu être démarré ».


Speak-48 ===

Speak-48, works in type some text mode. In ask a question mode
Alice always replies I do not understand what you are talking about
Réf: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21


Write-95 ===

Write-95 quits if we try to pronounce a selected text
with the text-to-speech icon.


ALL OTHER ACTIVITIES ===

No apparent problem : THANK YOU





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[SoaS] Error: Package: f21-backgrounds-kde-21.0.0-1.fc21.noarch (fedora), Requires: f21-backgrounds-base = 21.0.0-1.fc21, Installed: f21-backgrounds-base-21.1.0-1.fc21.noarch (@koji-override-1/$releas

[Thomas Gilliard]

IRC-10 text save from SoaS f21-live-Final TC3 x86_64 install to HD:
root terminal(edited):

 SoaS TC3 Final IRC-10
yum install @KDE Error: Package: 
f21-backgrounds-kde-21.0.0-1.fc21.noarch (fedora)

   Requires: f21-backgrounds-base = 21.0.0-1.fc21
Installed: f21-backgrounds-base-21.1.0-1.fc21.noarch 
(@koji-override-1/$releasever)

 why does soas use a different f21-backgrounds?

 I loose many files if I do --skip-broken
Is this a bug?

Tom Gilliard
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Re: [SoaS] Recommendations for running Sugar on standard hardware (non-XOs)?

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 4/8/2014 9:43 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:

Hey Samy,

thanks a lot for the update.

(1) I think some people already did run Sugar on a Raspberry Pi a 
while ago. There should be a page somewhere on w.s.o about it.

Here is reference:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi

Located inside this page on the RPi:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Raspberry_Pi_.2F_RPi

Tom Gilliard
satellit

(2) That sounds like an interesting setup as well!
(3) Tony (in CC) is interested in this as are other people. e.g. 
during the Malaysia summit back in November someone from Hong Kong 
showed Sugar running on a similarly low-cost tablet 
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/christophd/11212550176/in/set-72157637721745034).


Hope to see you at Sugar Camp this weekend! :-)

Cheers,
Christoph



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM, samy (free) s.bouta...@free.fr 
mailto:s.bouta...@free.fr wrote:


Hi Christoph,

I planned to experiment (still in progress) on an arm platform:

1/ Raspberry Pi with Pidora
Fedora working but slow

2/ Cubietruck with Fedora 20
Fedora installed following [1] and working. After experimenting disk
space problems on the micro SD-Card, by attempting to install the
sugar
packages, I didn't yet manage to move further, moving the
filesystem (or
part of it) from the sd-card to the 2,5 HD, that I added to the
configuration.

3/ Allwinner (A23) tablet with Fedora 20, with 1024x600 resolution
According to [2], there is an interesting and affordable platform in
tablet form factor, theorically suitable for an Fedora
installation. The
sales dept quoted USD80.00 for 1 piece (USD48.00 + 32 for DHL) and
USD311.00 for 5 pieces (USD48.00 + 71.00 for DHL)

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/~lkundrak/a10-images/README
http://fedorapeople.org/%7Elkundrak/a10-images/README
[2]
http://armdevices.net/2014/04/03/31-50-allwinner-a23-tablet-from-zxs/

Regards

Samy

Le lundi 07 avril 2014 à 20:36 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer a écrit :
 Hey everyone,


 a guy I know wants to set up a couple of older laptops with
Sugar in a
 sort of learning lab in Germany and asked me what the best
route for
 doing that was. Since I haven't dabbled in that area in quite a
while
 I'm not sure what the best recommendations are these days:


 * using the SoaS version from late December?
 * installing Fedora 20 and running Sugar on top of that?
 * something entirely different?


 Any comments, suggestions, links, etc. would be much appreciated.


 Thanks,
 Christoph


 --
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 volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at http://www.olpc.at]
 editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com http://www.olpcnews.com]
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[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] how to install sweets-desktop on a HD using an Mint13 Cinnamon DVD (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)

[Thomas Gilliard]

This is update to confirm that this seems to be a viable alternative 
Sugar-Desktop to use.


Mint13 Cinnamon i686  (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) with 0.94 Sweets-Desktop
-Installed today 1/4/2014
  works as emulator in Mint cinnamon Education/Sugar  or booted from DE 
chooser on login


Supported Versions:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Supported_platforms#Map

 must use i686 DVD for install for Sweets-desktop to install sugar 
applications

 x86_64 does not have any Sweets_Desktop applications built.
 click on links on the above wiki page linking to the
Sugar Labs Open Build Service https://packages.sugarlabs.org/  
Projects https://packages.sugarlabs.org/project/list_public  
SweetsDistribution 
https://packages.sugarlabs.org/project/show?project=SweetsDistribution:0.94 
https://packages.sugarlabs.org/project/show?project=SweetsDistribution%3A0.94 
 Status Monitor

To see what packages have been built on the OBS.

how to install:
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution

Enjoy;

Tom Gilliard
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Re: [SoaS] First boot to Sugar fails

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 09/24/2013 09:59 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:
Tested with 
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/test/20-Alpha/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_64-20-Alpha-4.iso 
loaded onto a Live USB device with livecd-iso-to-disk.


The first boot takes one to a console login prompt.

After
# yum install lightdm

then after rebooting, one is taken to a graphical liveuser login 
prompt followed by the Sugar user prompt.


   --Fred



Fred: look at this wiki page:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_20#SoaS_86_64-dm_.28remix.29

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_20#SoaS_f20-Alpha-1

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Re: [SoaS] First boot to Sugar fails

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 09/24/2013 11:24 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.com 
mailto:satelli...@gmail.comwrote:


On 09/24/2013 09:59 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:

Tested with

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/test/20-Alpha/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_64-20-Alpha-4.iso
loaded onto a Live USB device with livecd-iso-to-disk.

The first boot takes one to a console login prompt.

After
# yum install lightdm

then after rebooting, one is taken to a graphical liveuser login
prompt followed by the Sugar user prompt.

   --Fred



Fred: look at this wiki page:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_20#SoaS_86_64-dm_.28remix.29

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_20#SoaS_f20-Alpha-1


Yes.  Install lightdm was not necessary.

After login: liveuser at the console,
$ startx

was sufficient to proceed to the Sugar user prompt.

--Fred



Fred;
In #fedora-qa I got freeze exeption (FE) approved for a revised .ks
 http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/fedora-livecd-soas-lightdm.ks
 https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/alpha/buglist
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008569

My remix works properly:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/SoaS_x86_64-dm2.iso

Waiting for peter robinson to get back from vacation (pbrobinson) to 
change .ks file on build system.


Tom Gilliard



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Re: [SoaS] links from homepage to Downloads page

[Thomas Gilliard]

Sean;

I just did a cleanup of the wiki pages covering Virtual Box and 
Importable appliances

 deleted a lot of obsolete information and their links [5]

I updated:
 Downloads [1] [2]; Fedora_18 [3]; and Sugar_on_a_Stick [4] wiki pages

Tom Gilliard
satellit on #sugar freenode IRC

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Virtual_Machines_on_all_platforms
 Links to Virtual Box Appliances :
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox
 Links to Soas-v8:
[3] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai

[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
 This page is still not updated, you have to scroll down to find SoaS-v8
[5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges



On 02/02/2013 04:14 PM, Sean DALY wrote:

For the past couple of years, our homepage has linked the Sugar on a
Stick (SoaS) badge to the SoaS page [1] and the download menu item
and Try it with a child today link to the Downloads page [2].

The downloads page rightly in my view orients visitors by platform,
but the two largest market share desktop/laptop OSes (Windows  MacOS,
96% or so of market) only give instructions for Sugar on a Stick and
the Do you use a virtual machine? link misses the excellent VMs
available (in particular the VMs of... SoaS!).

I think teachers will self-classify by OS and virtually none of them
will self-classify as virtual machine users.

Teachers will also expect pancake button 1-click installers (this was
confirmed by Sloan Marketlab study), problematic with SoaS due to
necessary USB stick manipulation and still a bit hairy on a Mac.

I think Windows section and Mac section should both propose choice of
SoaS and using VirtualBox with a SoaS VM, explaining benefits of each
method in layman's terms.

VMs are far less disruptive for trying Sugar, as a teacher can
download to hard disk, install and run, keeping usual apps going
(mail, browser, word processing) while experiencing Sugar.

The downside is of course massive files to download, but that could be
mitigated with torrents and/or mirrors.

Comment please before we get into wiki editing of this crucial page thanks

Sean


[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam/Try_Sugar



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Re: [SoaS] SoaS Digest, Vol 33, Issue 2

[Thomas Gilliard]

On 05/20/2012 09:04 AM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote:

On Fri, May 18, 2012 4:31 pm, m...@ntugigroup.org wrote:

Christopher:

I have been running SoaS on VMware Fusion on a MacBook Pro 17 very
successfully. I am using Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso.  We are able to
run reliably, and to access both the cam and mic from the Mac within the
VM.

Ubuntu 12.04
VirtualBox OSE 4.1.12
Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso, downloaded yesterday from
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas

Boots to Sugar, works fine, except that I have not yet connected it to the
camera and mic. I'll see about them.


In order to get USB 2 to work for you (possibly also Camera and Mic) ; 
use  Oracle VirtualBox with the extensions, not OSE.
Oracle VirtualBox is GPL licensed , the extensions are licensed for 
Personal Use.


   
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html

   - see bottom of this web page for the extensions

Look at this section of the wiki for more information and to download 
VirtualBox Prebuilt importable Appliances.


   
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#VirtualBox_Virtualization


Tom Gilliard
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:52:08 -0500
From: Christopher Lee Murraylee.christopher.mur...@gmail.com
To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org
Subject: [SoaS] Sugar as a VM

Greetings,

I, Christopher Lee Murray, am a part of the OLPC Jamaica project.

Greetings.


Currently
I work with Craig Perue and Adam Holt.

I have been pleased to work with them, too. Usually from afar, but
occasionally together, as in last month's workshop in Cambridge.


Currently I have been assigned to
get the latest sugar to work as a VM but so far am unable to. When I
load the VM from the ISO it goes to the fedora live boot screen.

Please tell us your configuration. What OS (and version), what VM software
(and version), which SOAS file.


I am inquiring
any relevant advice or solution that may be provided that I may
successfully run Sugar as a VM (preferably on VMware).


Regards,
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[SoaS] New Tutorial: Install of SoaS to a VirtualBox HD

[Thomas Gilliard]

Christopher;

When I load the VM
from the ISO it goes to the fedora live boot screen. I am inquiring any
relevant advice or solution that may be provided that I may successfully run
Sugar as a VM (preferably on VMware).

I think that you are not disconnecting the .iso before rebooting the install.
This will just reboot the live CD.

I hope that this helps your project.

Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on #sugar freenode IRC

I have written a simple tutorial -Installing SoaS-v7 on VirtualBox.[1]
(This procedure will work on most versions of Sugar-on a Stick Live CD's)
You may also want to look at these other tutorials.[2]


[1]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/VirtualBox_Soas_Install

[2]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface
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Re: [SoaS] [SugarClone] -was Re: You scream, I scream, ...

[Thomas Gilliard]

Frederick Grose wrote:
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Thomas C Gilliard 
satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote:


 


...

QUESTION:
Do I need the modified_livecd-iso-to-disk script with this new
version to be on the USB?

 
No, SugarClone has it bundled in itself, but after running SugarClone, 
it will leave a copy of modified_livecd-iso-to-disk in the root

directory of the device (or in /mnt/live of the LiveOS image.)


ONE PROBLEM on Acer Aspire One:
Turns out the SD adapter uses the PCIe bus
and is not recognized by Sugar or your Scripts
SD only is seen if mounted in a Lexar SD to USB adapter

Can this be fixed, is it worth it, as SD cannot boot anyway?

* On a EeePC900 with the same USB and SD the SD is seen and the
script(s) work.

 


...


Send me the output of the attached script when run on the computer
with the PCIe bus.

ACER Aspire ONE
250 GB HD
Dual Boot: W7 Home Premium and Ubuntu 9.10:

Desktop$ ./storageDevices

  bus..vendor..model..device

  pci..ATA..TOSHIBA MK2555GS../dev/sda

in Ubuntu 9.10 terminal an d in root terminal with card in slot
(Linux does not see the SD, it may require a driver, it appears in 
windows 7)


Desktop# mount
/dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
none on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/robert/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,user=)



Tom Gilliard
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  --Fred







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