Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible]
I tried installing Fedora 7 onto a 2.5in hard drive on my net4801, and ran into the same problem with it not recognizing the disk. PXE boot using the FC7 installer works fine, right up to the point where it looks for the disks to ask you where you want to install, at which point it finds nothing. Same thing when I installed FC7 onto the disk in another computer, then moved it into the net4801; it booted up to the point where it tried to mount root, at which point it died saying it could not find it. Apparently there was a change to the disk system in FC7, because IDE disks that used to be labeled hda etc are now labeled sda etc (see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=809907postcount=3). I spent a few hours on this and couldn't figure out how to make FC7 see the disk in the net4801. Finally gave up and installed FC6 with no problems. -- Jim On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:50:53PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:50:53 -0700 From: Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible] can't you just pxe boot the OS and install like normal? this is sheer madness R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because private mail was not what I expected from the list... just in case someone else has the same question... -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:19:32 -0400 From: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kannaiyan Natesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Soekris] Fedora 7 no drives visible User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070615) Honestly... no. I am unable to share the details of that information... it's considered proprietary. And there is very little truely relevant information currently available on the web. Off the record... build an FC4 machine. Three partitions. First partition full root and install. Boot. Mount second partition as /duplicate, copy foundation to /duplicate. Screw with grub config to bring up /duplicate as root (boot into second partition.) Scrub to small system with essential services on /duplicate. Reboot back into first partition. Construct image files on third partition. Mount image file in loop device. Copy /duplicate parts to the mounted image file. Unmount. Copy image to CF card. Grub up the CF card. Pull out the CF card. Mount in Soekris. But this is just the beginning. You need to mess with the init.d scripts and Red Hat has specific ways of booting read only and shutdown's are a problem as is making ramdisk images available for certain writeable directories during normal operations. Kannaiyan Natesan wrote: Hi Bruce, Can you please let me know how you managed to run Fedora Core 4 onto CF and boot the soekris. I'm looking for similar solution for net 5501. Thanks. Regards, kannaiyan On 7/9/07, R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have both 4801 and 5501 running with Fedora Core 4 from CF. I have noticed that during the attempted boot of Fedora 7, that there are no drives visible during the nash init script running from the initial ram disk image, nor during a non-initrd boot. No hda, no sda, no labels... Does anyone know what driver I might be missing here? I have tried the various ones that are listed from a search of the CS5536 and AMD stuff through the initrd image, (like , pata_cs5535.ko , 5530 and 5520) but I don't see anything in the modules that acknowledges the CF configuration like what happened in the FC4 versions. Is this just a matter of the 5536 being too new for Fedora? Or am I missing something else? -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- The lessons of history teach us - if they teach us anything - that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us. - Paul Robinson ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com
Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible]
Yeah, F7 uses the SATA on the ATA stuff now, and has sdx for the drives. But, like we both said... no luck seeing the drives on the Soekris. I have nothing but complete contempt for FC6... it was the bastard child and cost me hundreds of hours of grief on a project for the US DOT, so I don't really consider it a healthy alternative. Jim McBeath wrote: I tried installing Fedora 7 onto a 2.5in hard drive on my net4801, and ran into the same problem with it not recognizing the disk. PXE boot using the FC7 installer works fine, right up to the point where it looks for the disks to ask you where you want to install, at which point it finds nothing. Same thing when I installed FC7 onto the disk in another computer, then moved it into the net4801; it booted up to the point where it tried to mount root, at which point it died saying it could not find it. Apparently there was a change to the disk system in FC7, because IDE disks that used to be labeled hda etc are now labeled sda etc (see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=809907postcount=3). I spent a few hours on this and couldn't figure out how to make FC7 see the disk in the net4801. Finally gave up and installed FC6 with no problems. -- Jim On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:50:53PM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:50:53 -0700 From: Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible] can't you just pxe boot the OS and install like normal? this is sheer madness R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because private mail was not what I expected from the list... just in case someone else has the same question... -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:19:32 -0400 From: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kannaiyan Natesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Soekris] Fedora 7 no drives visible User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070615) Honestly... no. I am unable to share the details of that information... it's considered proprietary. And there is very little truely relevant information currently available on the web. Off the record... build an FC4 machine. Three partitions. First partition full root and install. Boot. Mount second partition as /duplicate, copy foundation to /duplicate. Screw with grub config to bring up /duplicate as root (boot into second partition.) Scrub to small system with essential services on /duplicate. Reboot back into first partition. Construct image files on third partition. Mount image file in loop device. Copy /duplicate parts to the mounted image file. Unmount. Copy image to CF card. Grub up the CF card. Pull out the CF card. Mount in Soekris. But this is just the beginning. You need to mess with the init.d scripts and Red Hat has specific ways of booting read only and shutdown's are a problem as is making ramdisk images available for certain writeable directories during normal operations. Kannaiyan Natesan wrote: Hi Bruce, Can you please let me know how you managed to run Fedora Core 4 onto CF and boot the soekris. I'm looking for similar solution for net 5501. Thanks. Regards, kannaiyan On 7/9/07, R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have both 4801 and 5501 running with Fedora Core 4 from CF. I have noticed that during the attempted boot of Fedora 7, that there are no drives visible during the nash init script running from the initial ram disk image, nor during a non-initrd boot. No hda, no sda, no labels... Does anyone know what driver I might be missing here? I have tried the various ones that are listed from a search of the CS5536 and AMD stuff through the initrd image, (like , pata_cs5535.ko , 5530 and 5520) but I don't see anything in the modules that acknowledges the CF configuration like what happened in the FC4 versions. Is this just a matter of the 5536 being too new for Fedora? Or am I missing something else? -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible]
can't you just pxe boot the OS and install like normal? this is sheer madness R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because private mail was not what I expected from the list... just in case someone else has the same question... -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:19:32 -0400 From: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kannaiyan Natesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Soekris] Fedora 7 no drives visible User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070615) Honestly... no. I am unable to share the details of that information... it's considered proprietary. And there is very little truely relevant information currently available on the web. Off the record... build an FC4 machine. Three partitions. First partition full root and install. Boot. Mount second partition as /duplicate, copy foundation to /duplicate. Screw with grub config to bring up /duplicate as root (boot into second partition.) Scrub to small system with essential services on /duplicate. Reboot back into first partition. Construct image files on third partition. Mount image file in loop device. Copy /duplicate parts to the mounted image file. Unmount. Copy image to CF card. Grub up the CF card. Pull out the CF card. Mount in Soekris. But this is just the beginning. You need to mess with the init.d scripts and Red Hat has specific ways of booting read only and shutdown's are a problem as is making ramdisk images available for certain writeable directories during normal operations. Kannaiyan Natesan wrote: Hi Bruce, Can you please let me know how you managed to run Fedora Core 4 onto CF and boot the soekris. I'm looking for similar solution for net 5501. Thanks. Regards, kannaiyan On 7/9/07, R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have both 4801 and 5501 running with Fedora Core 4 from CF. I have noticed that during the attempted boot of Fedora 7, that there are no drives visible during the nash init script running from the initial ram disk image, nor during a non-initrd boot. No hda, no sda, no labels... Does anyone know what driver I might be missing here? I have tried the various ones that are listed from a search of the CS5536 and AMD stuff through the initrd image, (like , pata_cs5535.ko , 5530 and 5520) but I don't see anything in the modules that acknowledges the CF configuration like what happened in the FC4 versions. Is this just a matter of the 5536 being too new for Fedora? Or am I missing something else? -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- The lessons of history teach us - if they teach us anything - that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us. - Paul Robinson ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] [Fwd: Re: Fedora 7 no drives visible]
Eye of the beholder. No, not madness... PXE is giving me fits with both FC4 and F7. DHCP... fine. PXELINUX... fine. Read the kernel... fine... initrd... fine... then... URP... reboot... This may seem convoluted, but it's all scripted and works every time for FC4. And the target MUST run from CF... so... PXE would just be a convenience. (Not that I don't still try that again every now and then.) I have also adjusted to editing things with an RO root... not a problem. Custom list, custom tar from list... save as type, extract on image from tar, cut flash... 10 minutes, start to finish. Poof! Push in CF, 5 screws, ship to client. Send bill. Chris Cappuccio wrote: can't you just pxe boot the OS and install like normal? this is sheer madness R Bruce Hoffman [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Because private mail was not what I expected from the list... just in case someone else has the same question... -- "Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:19:32 -0400 From: R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kannaiyan Natesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Soekris] Fedora 7 no drives visible User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070615) Honestly... no. I am unable to share the details of that information... it's considered proprietary. And there is very little "truely" relevant information currently available on the web. Off the record... build an FC4 machine. Three partitions. First partition full root and install. Boot. Mount second partition as /duplicate, copy foundation to /duplicate. Screw with grub config to bring up /duplicate as root (boot into second partition.) Scrub to small system with essential services on /duplicate. Reboot back into first partition. Construct image files on third partition. Mount image file in loop device. Copy /duplicate parts to the mounted image file. Unmount. Copy image to CF card. Grub up the CF card. Pull out the CF card. Mount in Soekris. But this is just the beginning. You need to mess with the init.d scripts and Red Hat has specific ways of booting read only and shutdown's are a problem as is making ramdisk images available for certain writeable directories during normal operations. Kannaiyan Natesan wrote: Hi Bruce, Can you please let me know how you managed to run Fedora Core 4 onto CF and boot the soekris. I'm looking for similar solution for net 5501. Thanks. Regards, kannaiyan On 7/9/07, R Bruce Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have both 4801 and 5501 running with Fedora Core 4 from CF. I have noticed that during the attempted boot of Fedora 7, that there are no drives visible during the nash init script running from the initial ram disk image, nor during a non-initrd boot. No hda, no sda, no labels... Does anyone know what driver I might be missing here? I have tried the various ones that are listed from a search of the CS5536 and AMD stuff through the initrd image, (like , pata_cs5535.ko , 5530 and 5520) but I don't see anything in the modules that acknowledges the CF configuration like what happened in the FC4 versions. Is this just a matter of the 5536 being too new for Fedora? Or am I missing something else? -- "Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- "Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- "Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain === R Bruce Hoffman ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
