Re: Friday Flashback #223
brilliant catch ! On 14 May 2015 at 22:08, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a set of those manuals being used as a prop on the set of Grey's Anatomy http://tinyurl.com/nsrlaan On 14 May 2015 at 15:09, emi...@e-roja.com wrote: This were my second set of manuals after the first upgrade I recieved after Soft 3D 3.5 I was looking for the Softimage 3D 3.5 red manuals with the Reebot artwork, but I have not found any picture in the web. Don’t know if anyone here has a picture of those manuals. Indeed it was not only the software but those were the most beautiful manuals I ever seen. _ Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation for film, games and TV -- ale...@xtfx.co.uk http://www.xtfx.co.uk/
Re: Friday Flashback #223
Ha, I still have those manuals standing in the bookshelf, next to Rossano's Inside Softimage|3D book. ;-) I started dabbling with Softimage|3D 3.7 I think, on a blue and bubbly SGI 02, and picked up XSI at 3.0 on WinNT, replacing 3DSMax. Bought Foundation for dabbling at home at some point, but that was quickly replaced with a Essentials license. Good times ;-) And after spending some time in Houdini and Maya lately, it's sad to see how truly elegant Softimage is compared to other packages. Sure, it has it's quirks too, but nothing beats Softimage in workflow, compared to the click-fest that is many other apps Rob \/-\/\/ On 14-5-2015 0:57, Alan Fregtman wrote: Myself I started with XSI 4.2. I still remember the big heavy box of manuals with the liquidy orangey flower art. :) Good times. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: Ah yes, we can't forget Ms Charette. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:31 AM, christian papag...@gmail.com mailto:papag...@gmail.com wrote: maggie and christine were always on fire on the list.. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: I began with Softimage 3d v3.0 in 1997. We ran it on r1's. Pierre Tousignant, Gino Vincelli, Maggie Kathwaroon to name a few. Good times. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Daniel Harjanto miste...@cbn.net.id mailto:miste...@cbn.net.id wrote: I start with Softimage 3D 1.5.2 back then, running on Personal IRIS Still come as QIC Tapes, and a bunch of hard cover manuals and with IRIX manuals, that took a lot of space on the shelves. Must be somewhere in 1990 Go through terrible 2.0, which fix with 2.0.3 My last version on Softimage 3D was 3.7 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: It must have been 2.6 to 2.65 then. It would have been Mar 94, whatever was current then. I'll certainly never forget 2.66. And 2.66b, and 2.66c, and.. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) MYMIC Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage- mailto:softimage- boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #223 Joey, if you started in 1994, then you likely began with v2.65 as that was the first version released under Microsoft ownership and a lemon of a release that took many patches to fix. On the other hand if you began with v2.4, then you likely started in 1991 or 1992 because I started in July 1993 just after Jurassic Park hit theaters. v2.6 was current at the time. Matt Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 13:46:42 + From: Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #223 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Actually for me it was 94. Softimage 3D 2.4 or something like that. It was the SGI version in early 94 right before they switched to the Microsoft compiler and all hell broke loose.
Re: End of the ride
Thanks Graham and all the best for the future! On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Daniel Brassard dbrassar...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Graham for your help and advice in ICE and programming over the years. Good luck in your new ventures and keep in touch here. wish you the best, Dan Thanks Graham, you work has been great and Autodesk is loosing a key asset and the culture few of the remaining Softimage guys brought to it, sad strategy they have. Wish you the best and hope we can work together in the near future. jb On 13 May 2015, at 15:53, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for all the help throughout the years, Graham! :) On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk wrote: Well then thanks for the assistance you have provided over the years and good luck where ever you will be going! Cheers Graham! Best Regards Morten Bartholdy - Softimage user since 1992 Den 13. maj 2015 kl. 00:59 skrev Graham Bell bell...@gmail.com: I hadn't wanted to make any kind of announcement, but reading Stephens latest Flashback thread and the discussions on where peoples journey with Softimage first started, it's kinda made me realise that mine has basically ended. And as I'm posting here, I didn't want to fly under false colours, so to speak. As of the start of this month, I'm no longer at Autodesk, The bloodline of european Softimage AE's from Ben, Chinny, and James, to myself has now ended. Perhaps it's time to start earning an honest living again. lol :-)
Friday Flashback #224
#Reboot on the #Softimage 3D 3.8 Extreme boxed set http://wp.me/powV4-3a4
RE: Friday Flashback #224
Thanks Stephen! That is really nostalgia… I loved the Reboot series Still googling for the red manuals though... Those manuals were my pillow books for almost six months… haha.
particles save - crash
I'm having a weird problem with a scene today. When I try to save, it gets down to saving particles and then crashes. When I check the debug info, it says XSI didn't have the appropriate access to write to a directory, but it doesn't say what directory. I've checked every directory I could think of and couldn't find any permission issues. I've already done the typical runonce.bat, but I haven't deleted my user folder yet. Any ideas what could be going on? There's nothing unusual about the scene as far as I can tell. Thanks, - Paul Sent via [Cloze](https://www.cloze.com?kme=m-referral)
Re: particles save - crash
Read protected directory? temporary swapping of mapped drivers? Project managed remotely? There could be many variants to this. One thing happened to me yesterday, so I would recommend it: Make sure the simulation environment of the particle (caching .ice particles) doesn´t contain any other extra data. Just .icecache (or what your format of choice is) and make sure they all have written bytes (a 0 in bytes sims, could probably hang your scene). Cheers. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: I'm having a weird problem with a scene today. When I try to save, it gets down to saving particles and then crashes. When I check the debug info, it says XSI didn't have the appropriate access to write to a directory, but it doesn't say what directory. I've checked every directory I could think of and couldn't find any permission issues. I've already done the typical runonce.bat, but I haven't deleted my user folder yet. Any ideas what could be going on? There's nothing unusual about the scene as far as I can tell. Thanks, - Paul Sent via Cloze https://www.cloze.com?kme=m-referral -- Portfolio 2013 http://be.net/3dcinetv Cinema TV production Video Reel https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012
Re: XSI Mod Tool - hard crash on object select - help?
Ur crazy :D Sry no idea, could be almost everything starting from graphic card issue over operating system 2015-05-15 16:56 GMT+02:00 Andres Stephens drais...@outlook.com: I have decided to… go back to the year 2009 and use XSI mod tool to keep on doing some productions in a fun workflow kind of way with Softimage - hopefully still legal and acquirable after 2016 without Autodesk. * (though I hope my studio partners will be able to buy a few seats for Redshift before it’s too late…)* I have XSI Mod Tool with Mach Studio Pro 2 (also defunct but awesome still as a GPU game engine like renderer) that could put out some fun linear content for webseries or television - so.. that’s a plan I’m cooking up. *BUT.. it’s not working on one of my main machines (Windows 8.1) - it hard crashes on object select or move. * It works on another W8.1 machine, so not sure.. why it’s happening here, and not on the other machines. Why would this be, is there a fix? I had it working once earlier on this machine even, but now… even on re-install - it won’t work. Is it my operating system? Graphics? (AMD Ati card) or drivers? (I can rotate and zoom around the viewport, just on object select it crashes). Is it something in the registry? A little help would be greatly appreciated. *Call me crazy, I trade off caustics, hair/fur, particles and ICE strands and things and all the modern tech out there… but still have the pleasure of the workflow and animation of Softimage with the added GPU support of Mach Studio Pro game engine renderer. Maybe it’s for the art and story instead of the headaches and struggle to keep up with new features and developing software? *
RE: particles save - crash
Disk full? From: activemotionpictu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 11:09:22 -0500 Subject: Re: particles save - crash To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Read protected directory? temporary swapping of mapped drivers? Project managed remotely? There could be many variants to this. One thing happened to me yesterday, so I would recommend it: Make sure the simulation environment of the particle (caching .ice particles) doesn´t contain any other extra data. Just .icecache (or what your format of choice is) and make sure they all have written bytes (a 0 in bytes sims, could probably hang your scene). Cheers. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: I'm having a weird problem with a scene today. When I try to save, it gets down to saving particles and then crashes. When I check the debug info, it says XSI didn't have the appropriate access to write to a directory, but it doesn't say what directory. I've checked every directory I could think of and couldn't find any permission issues. I've already done the typical runonce.bat, but I haven't deleted my user folder yet. Any ideas what could be going on? There's nothing unusual about the scene as far as I can tell. Thanks, - Paul Sent via Cloze -- Portfolio 2013 Cinema TV productionVideo Reel
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
I didn't find Chris' post anywhere near throwing everything in a pile and didn't consider it noise at all. How many times have people posted to the list about a cool feature in other software before the EOL and nobody lost their shit? Why now? I'm on a number of lists so I'm well experienced with the skillful art of creating email filters and clicking on sub-folders. Some may say I have a super kung-fu / cat-like reflex for hopping from one to the other. A click is no inconvenience, don't worry. What I do find as an inconvenience is the absence of a long standing community with decades of experience that cannot be queried with a few clicks and keystrokes. Softimage is not forever and this list / community needs to evolve to something bigger otherwise it's going to die off. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Matt Lind speye...@hotmail.com wrote: Some of us have been down this road before, Eric. Yes, people will be moving on, but that's not an excuse to throw everything into a pile as it's just noise, counterproductive, and a disservice to those who really need the list for something other than as a chat medium to pass the day. As for not reading anything you don't want to read - some of us are on the digest form of the list which means the server concatenates messages together as one giant email and sends it out. You cannot skip messages in digest form as everything is inline text, you get everything whether you like it or not. I don't like receiving digests full of noise as they're tedious to read, and often lead to situations where I miss posts I am interested in because they get lost in that sea of noise. While having another forum or list for migration and other topics may be that one extra click of inconvenience to you, it's the right thing to do. Matt Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 21:09:55 -0400 From: Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Yeah I agree entirely with what Raf said. In addition if enough people want the discussions about transition experiences of members of our community to stop here I can get on board. Just know that when that happens the community will start to dwindle rapidly. It's the same damn point that's been made over and over since the EOL announcement. We're going to have to move somewhere else. Softimage is done. Some of us are transitioning sooner than others. This is going to leave the community pretty fragmented so topics and sharing of experiences is going to be very mixed up. If you hit something you don't want to read move on. Eric T. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: particles save - crash
I've run into similar issues when developing tools. Try doing a 'save as...' instead of 'save'. Matt Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 12:55:58 -0400 From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Subject: Re: particles save - crash To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Probably true - Process Monitor to the rescue! I just tried going in, disabling all ICE trees as well as hiding them, and still ran in to the same issue - the moment it got to Saving Particles, crash. The drive has 2 TB free and I can't find any write protected directories, so I'm not sure what the issue is. On May 15, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Stephen Blair softimage@listproc.autodesk.com wrote: This sounds like a case for Process Monitor... but I always say that On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Paul Griswold [pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com](mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com) wrote: I'm having a weird problem with a scene today.? When I try to save, it gets down to saving particles and then crashes. When I check the debug info, it says XSI didn't have the appropriate access to write to a directory, but it doesn't say what directory.? I've checked every directory I could think of and couldn't find any permission issues. I've already done the typical runonce.bat, but I haven't delet
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
Some of us have been down this road before, Eric. Yes, people will be moving on, but that's not an excuse to throw everything into a pile as it's just noise, counterproductive, and a disservice to those who really need the list for something other than as a chat medium to pass the day. As for not reading anything you don't want to read - some of us are on the digest form of the list which means the server concatenates messages together as one giant email and sends it out. You cannot skip messages in digest form as everything is inline text, you get everything whether you like it or not. I don't like receiving digests full of noise as they're tedious to read, and often lead to situations where I miss posts I am interested in because they get lost in that sea of noise. While having another forum or list for migration and other topics may be that one extra click of inconvenience to you, it's the right thing to do. Matt Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 21:09:55 -0400 From: Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Yeah I agree entirely with what Raf said. In addition if enough people want the discussions about transition experiences of members of our community to stop here I can get on board. Just know that when that happens the community will start to dwindle rapidly. It's the same damn point that's been made over and over since the EOL announcement. We're going to have to move somewhere else. Softimage is done. Some of us are transitioning sooner than others. This is going to leave the community pretty fragmented so topics and sharing of experiences is going to be very mixed up. If you hit something you don't want to read move on. Eric T. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
Wow...I've been buried deep in production and hadn't looked back at the list for a few days...sorry to cause the kerfuffle. Sven I've been using Softimage my entire career. 17 years. I've been on this list as long as I've been using this software. Last thing I would ever do is try to steer anyone away from it or cause a rift on this list. I was just trying pass along some interesting information/tech that I've been privy too. I'll be sure to send directly to those that mentioned that they'd like a copy of the zip. Eh Sylvain...Iong time no chat! Matt...chill out. ; ) Heh Brad! Out of further interest...Greg...I've switched to Max and I have to say I really do like it. The rigging is garbage and yes it does feel like the whole thing is duct taped together. A lot of inconsistency with hot keys in just about every module. But it has some really nice stuff and a super supportive community that shares just about everything. Go to scriptspot.com. It surprises me regularly...in a good way. I have it on the inside track that Autodesk is redesigning the interface and digging out a lot of the legacy stuff. I think the next few versions of MAX will be interesting to watch, especially with the addition of MCG. Ohh yeah and the camera projections are useless...so I think you can officially say I am not selling/pushing MAX here. ; ) That being said I find myself back in soft often...even if it's just to unwrap something. Like always...it's my personal swiss army knife. Peace. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't find Chris' post anywhere near throwing everything in a pile and didn't consider it noise at all. How many times have people posted to the list about a cool feature in other software before the EOL and nobody lost their shit? Why now? I'm on a number of lists so I'm well experienced with the skillful art of creating email filters and clicking on sub-folders. Some may say I have a super kung-fu / cat-like reflex for hopping from one to the other. A click is no inconvenience, don't worry. What I do find as an inconvenience is the absence of a long standing community with decades of experience that cannot be queried with a few clicks and keystrokes. Softimage is not forever and this list / community needs to evolve to something bigger otherwise it's going to die off. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Matt Lind speye...@hotmail.com wrote: Some of us have been down this road before, Eric. Yes, people will be moving on, but that's not an excuse to throw everything into a pile as it's just noise, counterproductive, and a disservice to those who really need the list for something other than as a chat medium to pass the day. As for not reading anything you don't want to read - some of us are on the digest form of the list which means the server concatenates messages together as one giant email and sends it out. You cannot skip messages in digest form as everything is inline text, you get everything whether you like it or not. I don't like receiving digests full of noise as they're tedious to read, and often lead to situations where I miss posts I am interested in because they get lost in that sea of noise. While having another forum or list for migration and other topics may be that one extra click of inconvenience to you, it's the right thing to do. Matt Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 21:09:55 -0400 From: Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Yeah I agree entirely with what Raf said. In addition if enough people want the discussions about transition experiences of members of our community to stop here I can get on board. Just know that when that happens the community will start to dwindle rapidly. It's the same damn point that's been made over and over since the EOL announcement. We're going to have to move somewhere else. Softimage is done. Some of us are transitioning sooner than others. This is going to leave the community pretty fragmented so topics and sharing of experiences is going to be very mixed up. If you hit something you don't want to read move on. Eric T. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
while i agree on your promotional point, (at least when its a clear promo, which wasn't the case here at all) whats wrong with freeware? (in this case its even opensource)? so by your list policy its: houdini: yeah, modo: yeah, maya: meh, max: meh, blender: no? cinema? is that ok by your standard? a weird and somewhat elitist attitude, I'd say.. (hope you don't run mozilla) --stephan On 5/15/2015 12:17 AM, Sven Constable wrote: Then I'd like change wewith me in my statement if you feel more comfortable with it. I do respect you the same way as I respect the list. This list is the most proficient source of information in a same way a platform for professionals is meant to discuss even everything else. That’s my point. This is the softimage mailing list. I read maya topics all the time. 3Dsmax, for gods sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's very welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon! Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with specific modeling in Blender but the promotion of it in this list. I do not think this is the right place to promote software. sven *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Thivierge *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Hey Sven, I'm not sure you have the right to police this list like that. I don't mind if this kind of stuff is posted here. So when you use the word we I'm not sure who you're speaking for but it certainly isn't the whole of this list. Anyone wanting to share new ways of working and tools should be able to. This wasn't forbidden before the EOL for Softimage so it shouldn't be now. Especially since the EOL. Eric T. On 5/14/2015 5:10 PM, Sven Constable wrote: Hey Chris, we have some problem if people want to promote their software in a inappropriate way. ADSK did this this on the list. Newtek an SideFX did it as well. It's alright. But please keep in mind, this is the softimage mailing list. If I want to model with hobbyist software, controlled by hobbyists I will choose Blender. If you want to promote a software for hobbyists, you should use the appropiate forums. sven
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
A valid point, and one that i support entirely. I enter here a while ago, because of Softimage, not because of Maya or Blender, if i would like to hear about those app i would go to the proper forums/mailing list, etc. Everytime i come to gmail and verifiy my forums section, i encounter a few topics about other things that are not Softimage related. What it's the meaning of this mailing list, then? One thing i support too it's a thread dedicated only to people who are migrating or finding solutions, but one thread only, not 20 of them saying Maya it's better because of this, and Blender do amazing cycle renders and blabla. Another thing it's threads dedicated only to Maya/Blender/3Dmax Softimage interaction, that's something you really want to learn about it and deserves their own thread. C'mon guys, we know Softimage it's EOL, but that doesn't mean we need to keep killing it. You know that maybe this mailing list it's the only place aside from a few forums to talk and keep learning about Softimage? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt Lind speye...@hotmail.com wrote: I side with Sven on the matter. People seem to have confused the concept of forum with mailing list. If you want to discuss anything and everything, go to a forum as it's designed for that sort of thing. people can view only what they desire to view and easily ignore what they don't care about. Migration, plugins, tutorials for product X, and whatever will surely be welcomed there. A mailing list is intended for narrow on-topic discussion and not much else because any content submitted is distributed to the entire community intended or not. Having a lot of non-topic discussion on a mailing list is synonymous to being loud and rude in a library while people are trying to read and study. While some tangents are OK to keep things interesting, let's try to keep the balance in favor of on topic discussion. Lately the noise has been higher than the signal. Softimage may be EOL, but some of us must continue using it for an indefinite period of time. When trying to find solutions to problems in a timely manner using the archives or direct help from the user base, we don't need our few remaining channels of support clogged with noise causing a potential solution to be missed in sea of false positives. Matt Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:17:30 +0200 From: Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de Subject: RE: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Then I'd like change wewith me in my statement if you feel more comfortable with it. I do respect you the same way as I respect the list. This list is the most proficient source of information in a same way a platform for professionals is meant to discuss even everything else. That?s my point. This is the softimage mailing list. I read maya topics all the time. 3Dsmax, for gods sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's very welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon! Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with specific modeling in Blender but the promotion of it in this list. I do not think this is the right place to promote software. sven From: mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM To: mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Hey Sven, I'm not sure you have the right to police this list like that. I don't mind if this kind of stuff is posted here. So when you use the word we I'm not sure who you're speaking for but it certainly isn't the whole of this list. Anyone wanting to share new ways of working and tools should be able to. This wasn't forbidden before the EOL for Softimage so it shouldn't be now. Especially since the EOL. Eric T. On 5/14/2015 5:10 PM, Sven Constable wrote: Hey Chris, we have some problem if people want to promote their software in a inappropriate way. ADSK did this this on the list. Newtek an SideFX did it as well. It's alright. But please keep in mind, this is the softimage mailing list. If I want to model with hobbyist software, controlled by hobbyists I will choose Blender. If you want to promote a software for hobbyists, you should use the appropiate forums. sven
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
Again no need to police or something just common sense, If there is need mention solution in maya nd point to right discussion or forum but there is absolutely no need to start lengthy discussion how to do 1 click operation in SI with 20 scripts in maya... On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: I can only agree. Move other software things to other threads, it is one thing to mention something if it is solution to specific problem but to dedicate next bunch of emails to maya and others it is no place or that. There are maya and other software threads to discus that in debt. If someone asks for help with something in SI, and this is still best way and great pool of talented SI ppl, he hardly wanna hear, oh do that in maya on blender. f*** that I don;t care about crap of the maya or blender. If I wanted or liked to work on them would get them and go to maya and other forums. God thing about si mailing list is that even when not looking for some answers topics arise that are interesting to read and learn something new from them. But with all other software noise that is increasingly hard. And some filtering really is in order. Need maya, blender max help and details? Find maya and other forums and mailing lists. With little time most ppl have in day last thing I wanna spend it is reading about those... On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Tenshi S. tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: A valid point, and one that i support entirely. I enter here a while ago, because of Softimage, not because of Maya or Blender, if i would like to hear about those app i would go to the proper forums/mailing list, etc. Everytime i come to gmail and verifiy my forums section, i encounter a few topics about other things that are not Softimage related. What it's the meaning of this mailing list, then? One thing i support too it's a thread dedicated only to people who are migrating or finding solutions, but one thread only, not 20 of them saying Maya it's better because of this, and Blender do amazing cycle renders and blabla. Another thing it's threads dedicated only to Maya/Blender/3Dmax Softimage interaction, that's something you really want to learn about it and deserves their own thread. C'mon guys, we know Softimage it's EOL, but that doesn't mean we need to keep killing it. You know that maybe this mailing list it's the only place aside from a few forums to talk and keep learning about Softimage? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt Lind speye...@hotmail.com wrote: I side with Sven on the matter. People seem to have confused the concept of forum with mailing list. If you want to discuss anything and everything, go to a forum as it's designed for that sort of thing. people can view only what they desire to view and easily ignore what they don't care about. Migration, plugins, tutorials for product X, and whatever will surely be welcomed there. A mailing list is intended for narrow on-topic discussion and not much else because any content submitted is distributed to the entire community intended or not. Having a lot of non-topic discussion on a mailing list is synonymous to being loud and rude in a library while people are trying to read and study. While some tangents are OK to keep things interesting, let's try to keep the balance in favor of on topic discussion. Lately the noise has been higher than the signal. Softimage may be EOL, but some of us must continue using it for an indefinite period of time. When trying to find solutions to problems in a timely manner using the archives or direct help from the user base, we don't need our few remaining channels of support clogged with noise causing a potential solution to be missed in sea of false positives. Matt Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:17:30 +0200 From: Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de Subject: RE: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Then I'd like change wewith me in my statement if you feel more comfortable with it. I do respect you the same way as I respect the list. This list is the most proficient source of information in a same way a platform for professionals is meant to discuss even everything else. That?s my point. This is the softimage mailing list. I read maya topics all the time. 3Dsmax, for gods sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's very welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon! Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with specific modeling in Blender but the promotion of it in this list. I do not think this is the right place to promote software. sven From: mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM To: mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
I can only agree. Move other software things to other threads, it is one thing to mention something if it is solution to specific problem but to dedicate next bunch of emails to maya and others it is no place or that. There are maya and other software threads to discus that in debt. If someone asks for help with something in SI, and this is still best way and great pool of talented SI ppl, he hardly wanna hear, oh do that in maya on blender. f*** that I don;t care about crap of the maya or blender. If I wanted or liked to work on them would get them and go to maya and other forums. God thing about si mailing list is that even when not looking for some answers topics arise that are interesting to read and learn something new from them. But with all other software noise that is increasingly hard. And some filtering really is in order. Need maya, blender max help and details? Find maya and other forums and mailing lists. With little time most ppl have in day last thing I wanna spend it is reading about those... On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Tenshi S. tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: A valid point, and one that i support entirely. I enter here a while ago, because of Softimage, not because of Maya or Blender, if i would like to hear about those app i would go to the proper forums/mailing list, etc. Everytime i come to gmail and verifiy my forums section, i encounter a few topics about other things that are not Softimage related. What it's the meaning of this mailing list, then? One thing i support too it's a thread dedicated only to people who are migrating or finding solutions, but one thread only, not 20 of them saying Maya it's better because of this, and Blender do amazing cycle renders and blabla. Another thing it's threads dedicated only to Maya/Blender/3Dmax Softimage interaction, that's something you really want to learn about it and deserves their own thread. C'mon guys, we know Softimage it's EOL, but that doesn't mean we need to keep killing it. You know that maybe this mailing list it's the only place aside from a few forums to talk and keep learning about Softimage? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt Lind speye...@hotmail.com wrote: I side with Sven on the matter. People seem to have confused the concept of forum with mailing list. If you want to discuss anything and everything, go to a forum as it's designed for that sort of thing. people can view only what they desire to view and easily ignore what they don't care about. Migration, plugins, tutorials for product X, and whatever will surely be welcomed there. A mailing list is intended for narrow on-topic discussion and not much else because any content submitted is distributed to the entire community intended or not. Having a lot of non-topic discussion on a mailing list is synonymous to being loud and rude in a library while people are trying to read and study. While some tangents are OK to keep things interesting, let's try to keep the balance in favor of on topic discussion. Lately the noise has been higher than the signal. Softimage may be EOL, but some of us must continue using it for an indefinite period of time. When trying to find solutions to problems in a timely manner using the archives or direct help from the user base, we don't need our few remaining channels of support clogged with noise causing a potential solution to be missed in sea of false positives. Matt Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:17:30 +0200 From: Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de Subject: RE: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Then I'd like change wewith me in my statement if you feel more comfortable with it. I do respect you the same way as I respect the list. This list is the most proficient source of information in a same way a platform for professionals is meant to discuss even everything else. That?s my point. This is the softimage mailing list. I read maya topics all the time. 3Dsmax, for gods sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's very welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon! Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with specific modeling in Blender but the promotion of it in this list. I do not think this is the right place to promote software. sven From: mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM To: mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? Hey Sven, I'm not sure you have the right to police this list like that. I don't mind if this kind of stuff is posted here. So when you use the word we I'm not sure who you're speaking for but it certainly isn't the whole of this list. Anyone wanting to share new ways of
Re: XSI Mod Tool - hard crash on object select - help?
I’ll try copy over the work version and overwrite the one that isn’t working here, and see if it’s anything to do with the install, and if it works… I know this end installed wrong or something. If not, I will know it’s my operating system setup or graphic card or drivers. From: Mario Reitbauer Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:36:04 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Ur crazy :D Sry no idea, could be almost everything starting from graphic card issue over operating system 2015-05-15 16:56 GMT+02:00 Andres Stephens drais...@outlook.com: I have decided to… go back to the year 2009 and use XSI mod tool to keep on doing some productions in a fun workflow kind of way with Softimage - hopefully still legal and acquirable after 2016 without Autodesk.(though I hope my studio partners will be able to buy a few seats for Redshift before it’s too late…) I have XSI Mod Tool with Mach Studio Pro 2 (also defunct but awesome still as a GPU game engine like renderer) that could put out some fun linear content for webseries or television - so.. that’s a plan I’m cooking up. BUT.. it’s not working on one of my main machines (Windows 8.1) - it hard crashes on object select or move. It works on another W8.1 machine, so not sure.. why it’s happening here, and not on the other machines. Why would this be, is there a fix? I had it working once earlier on this machine even, but now… even on re-install - it won’t work. Is it my operating system? Graphics? (AMD Ati card) or drivers? (I can rotate and zoom around the viewport, just on object select it crashes). Is it something in the registry? A little help would be greatly appreciated. Call me crazy, I trade off caustics, hair/fur, particles and ICE strands and things and all the modern tech out there… but still have the pleasure of the workflow and animation of Softimage with the added GPU support of Mach Studio Pro game engine renderer. Maybe it’s for the art and story instead of the headaches and struggle to keep up with new features and developing software?
Re: particles save - crash
This sounds like a case for Process Monitor... but I always say that On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: I'm having a weird problem with a scene today. When I try to save, it gets down to saving particles and then crashes. When I check the debug info, it says XSI didn't have the appropriate access to write to a directory, but it doesn't say what directory. I've checked every directory I could think of and couldn't find any permission issues. I've already done the typical runonce.bat, but I haven't deleted my user folder yet. Any ideas what could be going on? There's nothing unusual about the scene as far as I can tell. Thanks, - Paul Sent via Cloze https://www.cloze.com?kme=m-referral
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
The equivalent in Maya of the +/- buttons of softimage is to turn on subdiv preview with the 3 hotkey, and use pageup/pagedown to change subdiv level. On 15 May 2015 at 14:54, John Richard Sanchez youngupstar...@gmail.com wrote: Going from mesh to sub d with the + and _ uttons I will miss. In Maya when I try to modify convert to Sub D I get an error 8 % of the time. (I think because it has to have all quads to work) I am not a fan of the mesh smoothing.
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
That is 80 % of the time i get an error On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, John Richard Sanchez youngupstar...@gmail.com wrote: Going from mesh to sub d with the + and _ uttons I will miss. In Maya when I try to modify convert to Sub D I get an error 8 % of the time. (I think because it has to have all quads to work) I am not a fan of the mesh smoothing. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: I can say with certainty that Softimage is far more user friendly and elegant as an animation solution than Robbins Pathological Basis of Disease. Switch at your own peril, for rest assured production is going to grind to a screeching halt. -- www.johnrichardsanchez.com -- www.johnrichardsanchez.com
Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?
Going from mesh to sub d with the + and _ uttons I will miss. In Maya when I try to modify convert to Sub D I get an error 8 % of the time. (I think because it has to have all quads to work) I am not a fan of the mesh smoothing. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: I can say with certainty that Softimage is far more user friendly and elegant as an animation solution than Robbins Pathological Basis of Disease. Switch at your own peril, for rest assured production is going to grind to a screeching halt. -- www.johnrichardsanchez.com
