Re: Softimage license transfer

[Sebastien Sterling]

I think it depends when you bought it, if you got it unwittingly 2 months
before eol announced, and they didn't tell you, that is some bullshit.

On 6 Aug 2017 11:23, "Martin"  wrote:

> I hate what Adsk did, we all do.
> But a refund?! for "wasting your time studying it"?
> Come on...!
>
> Should we get a refund for every software that I have bought, study and
> went EOL or stop getting updates? like Mudbox, all Macromedia stuff like
> Flash Free Hand, etc, or even Softimage 3D? (I didn't buy that one though)
>
> I understand all the irrational rants because we were all affected, but
> it's been 3 years and we are still having these threads ?
>
> My only complain now are the prices and rental systems. Now we have to pay
> more than twice the maintenance price for the subscription (rental) and the
> prices per project in the industry aren't exactly getting that much higher.
>
> Btw we haven't changed to subscription yet. Does it worth it to do it now?
> I didn't have that option when I renovated our maintenance licenses but now
> I see a "special discount" campaign if you change to subscription now.
> I did my maths, and their "special discount" campaign doesn't make much
> sense so I must be missing something, which could be the unannounced
> increasing rate of the price of Maintenance after 3 years.
>
> Btw, we are still using Softimage in some of our projects. The rest is
> Maya 2016, and using Softimage as an external tool.
>
> Martin
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 1:53, Pierre Schiller 
> wrote:
>
> What is even beyond all of us, it´s the fact no user gets funded back
> nothing (who will pay for your hous/years invested in learning the
> software)?, you may answer: You did commercial work after paying the
> licence. Then this gets even better, since "breaking your businness" as a
> decision without your consent, up until where I remember that is
> called_ .
>
> Well...I let you fill in the blank
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Leoung O'Young 
> wrote:
>
>> It is beyond me, how come the U.S. government let them buy these
>> competing software.
>> Now we have Adobe and Autodesk and not much other choices.
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/2017 3:31 PM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain wrote:
>>
>> is there no labor unions or anything like user clubs or unions to
>> organize,
>> crowdfund website a public group, try to crowdfund and buy the whole of
>> autodesk (seriously)-
>> they seem dark evil, hollywood industry does plenty of movies against
>> lesser imaginary evil forces,
>> let's keep entertaining and promise that could be organized to attract
>> any person giving 100$ would be granted a
>> re-installation of a softimage seat in a new softimage company (there
>> need be hopes!)- let's re-base it in
>> montreal. there's a lack of logic in their robbery. it was a quality
>> product. when you look at the people
>> who get inspired from, like adama smith the philosopher of the 18th
>> century, everything is full of Logic.
>> something is hidden. light must be made. softimage seats disappear, we
>> get hints on this now? it's sad. let's not give up
>> our seats!
>>
>> 2017-08-04 20:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Amasio :
>>
>>> Any updates on this topic would be greatly appreciated.  Especially any
>>> success stories.
>>>
>>> I feel like companies willing to part with theirs would be smaller.  But
>>> animal logic (in Vancouver) is dropping xsi after this current show. (
>>> though they've rumored that before ).  I'll walk across the street and see
>>> if that's really happening.
>>>
>>> and the studio formerly known as nerdcorp is transitioning right now.
>>>
>>> I called autodesk daily ( and our CTO )  almost every day in March of
>>> this year and tried to get them to sell our company a new license but they
>>> stood firm against it, all the way up the chain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Softimage license transfer

[Martin]

I hate what Adsk did, we all do.
But a refund?! for "wasting your time studying it"?
Come on...!

Should we get a refund for every software that I have bought, study and went 
EOL or stop getting updates? like Mudbox, all Macromedia stuff like Flash Free 
Hand, etc, or even Softimage 3D? (I didn't buy that one though)

I understand all the irrational rants because we were all affected, but it's 
been 3 years and we are still having these threads ?

My only complain now are the prices and rental systems. Now we have to pay more 
than twice the maintenance price for the subscription (rental) and the prices 
per project in the industry aren't exactly getting that much higher.

Btw we haven't changed to subscription yet. Does it worth it to do it now? I 
didn't have that option when I renovated our maintenance licenses but now I see 
a "special discount" campaign if you change to subscription now.
I did my maths, and their "special discount" campaign doesn't make much sense 
so I must be missing something, which could be the unannounced increasing rate 
of the price of Maintenance after 3 years.

Btw, we are still using Softimage in some of our projects. The rest is Maya 
2016, and using Softimage as an external tool.

Martin
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 1:53, Pierre Schiller  
> wrote:
> 
> What is even beyond all of us, it´s the fact no user gets funded back nothing 
> (who will pay for your hous/years invested in learning the software)?, you 
> may answer: You did commercial work after paying the licence. Then this gets 
> even better, since "breaking your businness" as a decision without your 
> consent, up until where I remember that is called_ .
> 
> Well...I let you fill in the blank
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Leoung O'Young  wrote:
>> It is beyond me, how come the U.S. government let them buy these competing 
>> software.
>> Now we have Adobe and Autodesk and not much other choices.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/4/2017 3:31 PM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain wrote:
>>> is there no labor unions or anything like user clubs or unions to organize,
>>> crowdfund website a public group, try to crowdfund and buy the whole of 
>>> autodesk (seriously)-
>>> they seem dark evil, hollywood industry does plenty of movies against 
>>> lesser imaginary evil forces,
>>> let's keep entertaining and promise that could be organized to attract any 
>>> person giving 100$ would be granted a
>>> re-installation of a softimage seat in a new softimage company (there need 
>>> be hopes!)- let's re-base it in
>>> montreal. there's a lack of logic in their robbery. it was a quality 
>>> product. when you look at the people
>>> who get inspired from, like adama smith the philosopher of the 18th 
>>> century, everything is full of Logic.
>>> something is hidden. light must be made. softimage seats disappear, we get 
>>> hints on this now? it's sad. let's not give up
>>> our seats!
>>> 
>>> 2017-08-04 20:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Amasio :
 Any updates on this topic would be greatly appreciated.  Especially any 
 success stories.
 
 I feel like companies willing to part with theirs would be smaller.  But 
 animal logic (in Vancouver) is dropping xsi after this current show. ( 
 though they've rumored that before ).  I'll walk across the street and see 
 if that's really happening.
 
 and the studio formerly known as nerdcorp is transitioning right now.
 I called autodesk daily ( and our CTO )  almost every day in March of this 
 year and tried to get them to sell our company a new license but they 
 stood firm against it, all the way up the chain.
 
>>> 
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> 
> 
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