Re: EOL showreel (again)
I heard you can't use more than 10% (?) but this is the most specific (and simple) info I could find. But generally, you cant (re-)use things or parts to sell products, and sources need to be clear, http://www.cmsimpact.org/fair-use/best-practices/code-best-practices-fair-use-online-video#common FIVE: Copying, restoring, and recirculating a work or part of a work for purposes of launching a discussion Online video contributors often copy and post a work or part of it because they love or hate it, or find it exemplary of something they love or hate, or see it as the center of an existing debate. They want to share that work or portion of a work because they have a connection to it and want to spur a discussion about it based on that connection. These works can be, among other things, cultural (Worst Music Video Ever!, a controversial comedian's performance), political (a campaign appearance or ad), social or educational (a public service announcement). On 09/24/14 16:52, Jason S wrote: Not as if there is a shortage of softies that worked on recognizable things here :) On 09/24/14 15:21, Jason S wrote: At least we don't necessarily need tons of material to make a catchy edit, but I think it's that I would have liked to have stuff in there that people could actually recognize or have some the "greatest hits" done in Softmage in a "fan-made" collection clip. On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote: This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far. Eric T. On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every possible care concerning permissions. This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance, but I take this as a resounding don't bother. ;) Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Not too versed in the lingo either, but… just go for it. Popular vote shouldn’t always go before artistic value and expression and ability - or even just memory and a way of archiving? If all else fails - and you get the permission from those who made the content - just edit it and put some cool track like the ones below to it and it would be neat to just have floating around there - just so I’d like to laugh at my Maya using friends and show them the reel over and over again. Then cry in-front of their eyes. haha -Draise Ph: +57 313 811 6821 From: Leendert A. Hartog Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 05:28:02 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance, but I take this as a resounding don't bother. ;) Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Thanks for the positive words! Problem is that you'd obviously need the cooperation/consent of the content producers and their help figuring out what's recent enough. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they make with Softimage On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance, but I take this as a resounding don't bother. ;)
Re: EOL showreel (again)
If this gets off the ground, we'd be happy to provide tons of material with AnimSchool's Malcolm rig, made in Softimage. Most people use it in Maya, but it was all authored in Softimage first and converted. On 9/24/2014 4:27 AM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance, but I take this as a resounding don't bother. ;) Greetz Leendert
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Luc-Eric Rousseau schreef op 24-9-2014 17:52: Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they make with Softimage True, but from my POV they are probably a lot closer to the actual owners than I am... ;) -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
It's actually trivial for you or any individual not working for a studio to put together a video on youtube that's a collection of any clip you want. People do it all the time. Nearly impossible if you're part of the chain that had anything to do with any of the clips. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Leendert A. Hartog hirazib...@live.nl wrote: Luc-Eric Rousseau schreef op 24-9-2014 17:52: Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they make with Softimage True, but from my POV they are probably a lot closer to the actual owners than I am... ;)
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every possible care concerning permissions. This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder. -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far. Eric T. On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every possible care concerning permissions. This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Sent this to Eric directly first. Oops! Okay, that would mean a strategic rethinking of the whole plan... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
At least we don't necessarily need tons of material to make a catchy edit, but I think it's that I would have liked to have stuff in there that people could actually recognize or have some the greatest hits done in Softmage in a fan-made collection clip. On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote: This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far. Eric T. On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every possible care concerning permissions. This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.
Re: EOL showreel (again)
Not as if there is a shortage of softies that worked on recognizable things here :) On 09/24/14 15:21, Jason S wrote: At least we don't necessarily need tons of material to make a catchy edit, but I think it's that I would have liked to have stuff in there that people could actually recognize or have some the greatest hits done in Softmage in a fan-made collection clip. On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote: This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far. Eric T. On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every possible care concerning permissions. This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.
EOL showreel (again)
This has been discussed before and I do not claim to have thought of this originally, but if nobody picks this up, It definitively won't get done. Okay, here goes: would it be possible/feasible/desirable to try to create a sort of EOL showreel, specifically highlighting works from the wonderful world of Softimage after the retirement? This obviously can only work given enough participation/contribution by all (read: many) parties involved. The idea was to get such an EOL showreel ready for the first anniversary of the retirement, which would give us about six months. While I am more than willing to somehow coordinate this, should the need arise, I don't want to be solely responsible for the final product of this effort, as my showreel making skills are zero and my judgment asa hobbyist might not be up to the task either. So, if this were to go forward, any help setting this up and seeing it through would be much appreciated. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
It would be easy to make an edit (with credits on each shot) from the "Great things made with Softimage" thread, softimage.tv and or the ICE vimeo page. You talked about more recent things, but it could also include some of the "classics" like some "wouldn't it be cool" some car parts that come to mind ;] On 09/23/14 6:18, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: This has been discussed before and I do not claim to have thought of this originally, but if nobody picks this up, It definitively wont get done. Okay, here goes: would it be possible/feasible/desirable to try to create a sort of EOL showreel, specifically highlighting works from the wonderful world of Softimage after the retirement? This obviously can only work given enough participation/contribution by "all" (read: many) parties involved. The idea was to get such an EOL showreel ready for the first anniversary of the retirement, which would give us about six months. While I am more than willing to somehow coordinate this, should the need arise, I dont want to be solely responsible for the final product of this effort, as my showreel making skills are zero and my judgment as a hobbyist might not be up to the task either. So, if this were to go forward, any help setting this up and seeing it through would be much appreciated. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
I fear that once you drop the post-retirement clause, it would quickly become an unmanageable beast. Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet). Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: EOL showreel (again)
I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really nice things. .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: I fear that once you drop the post-retirement clause, it would quickly become an unmanageable beast. Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet). Greetz Leendert
Re: EOL showreel (again)
So long as it is set to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really nice things. .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: I fear that once you drop the post-retirement clause, it would quickly become an unmanageable beast. Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet). Greetz Leendert
RE: EOL showreel (again)
Or this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJ3B8iqHp8 Ed From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:17 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: EOL showreel (again) So long as it is set to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really nice things. .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: I fear that once you drop the post-retirement clause, it would quickly become an unmanageable beast. Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet). Greetz Leendert
Re: EOL showreel (again)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhbliUq0_r4 or this and someone can ad an AD logo on top of the oil spill On 23 September 2014 19:32, Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com wrote: Or this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJ3B8iqHp8 Ed *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sebastien Sterling *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:17 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: EOL showreel (again) So long as it is set to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really nice things. .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: I fear that once you drop the post-retirement clause, it would quickly become an unmanageable beast. Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet). Greetz Leendert
