More XSI Monkey business by The Mill
While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Fantastic work! Kudos to the actor too, I can't imagine myself coming to work in the morning and deliver that kind of performance ;-) On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote: While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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+ MONKEY BUSINESS!! .:. Christian Lattuada On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote: While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill
I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren’t stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? ‘Selling it as a particle system’ my arse! I don’t think they even know what they have. Paul From: Morten Bartholdy Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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+1 this; _ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of p...@bustykelp.com Sent: 14 March 2014 15:03 To: Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul From: Morten Bartholdy mailto:x...@colorshopvfx.dk Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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+2 2014-03-14 16:22 GMT+01:00 adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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picking up my jaw from the floor here! wow! F. 2014-03-14 13:18 GMT-03:00 olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr: Fantastic ! Le 14/03/2014 15:33, Morten Bartholdy a écrit : While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Fantastic ! Le 14/03/2014 15:33, Morten Bartholdy a écrit : While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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As the resident ape expert / fan I can say with out a doubt this is as good as wee have seen to date...weta / R H included. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.comwrote: picking up my jaw from the floor here! wow! F. 2014-03-14 13:18 GMT-03:00 olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr: Fantastic ! Le 14/03/2014 15:33, Morten Bartholdy a écrit : While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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I's so painful watching something this good, knowing what we know. Why ? how the fuck can they not see the value of this ? This ape is better then the apes of.. of ... Rise of planet of the apes! both in look and in acting. How much time was given to do this ? On 14 March 2014 16:20, Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com wrote: picking up my jaw from the floor here! wow! F. 2014-03-14 13:18 GMT-03:00 olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr: Fantastic ! Le 14/03/2014 15:33, Morten Bartholdy a écrit : While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Exactly ! You get entertained to death, and it's all dampened by sadness... Le 14/03/2014 17:34, Sebastien Sterling a écrit : I's so painful watching something this good, knowing what we know. Why ? how the fuck can they not see the value of this ?
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+1 On 14 March 2014 15:29, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren’t stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? ‘Selling it as a particle system’ my arse! I don’t think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten -- -- Michal http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mdoniec
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If TheMill, Passion, Jellyfish, Psyop, don't want answer publicly to autodesk decision, then let their works speak for them. Come on, spread them around! .:. Christian Lattuada On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Michal Doniec doni...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 14 March 2014 15:29, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten -- -- Michal http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mdoniec
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Well its true that we can all carry on using it. Thats my plan for the foreseeable future, but Its very annoying that firstly you cant just buy Softimage alone after 2 weeks and then you have to get a package with Maya which will be more expensive, then in 2 years time, you can’t get any more seats at all. There is no real justification for the bullying tactics whatever they say. I’m hardly bothered at all about them not developing it, I can do that myself with ICE. I’m more concerned the ability to get new seats. I’ll just have to buy up as many as I can in the next 2 years I guess. Paul From: Chris Johnson Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of p...@bustykelp.com Sent: 14 March 2014 15:03 To: Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren’t stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? ‘Selling it as a particle system’ my arse! I don’t think they even know what they have. Paul From: Morten Bartholdy Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Vince, our head of CG in NY very publicly stated his dissatisfaction with the discontinuation of softimage on this list. Sam Driscoll led this Orangutan commercial -- he's on the list. On 14 March 2014 16:43, Christian Lattuada christian.lattu...@gmail.comwrote: If TheMill, Passion, Jellyfish, Psyop, don't want answer publicly to autodesk decision, then let their works speak for them. Come on, spread them around! .:. Christian Lattuada On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Michal Doniec doni...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 14 March 2014 15:29, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten -- -- Michal http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mdoniec -- 3D Artist/TD @ The Mill, London http://www.amaanakram.com
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Wow, I love it! - Softimage.tv ? While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at - keyvis digital imagery Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at -- This email and its attachments are-- -- confidential and for the recipient only --
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Valid points Paul. At our shop I'm the last hold out using Softimage and I'm being forced to go down the Max Vray path. I personally plan to hold onto Soft until they tear it out of my cold dead hands. But in the meantime I have to play nice with the masses and move onto something else which has been predetermined. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM, p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Well its true that we can all carry on using it. Thats my plan for the foreseeable future, but Its very annoying that firstly you cant just buy Softimage alone after 2 weeks and then you have to get a package with Maya which will be more expensive, then in 2 years time, you can't get any more seats at all. There is no real justification for the bullying tactics whatever they say. I'm hardly bothered at all about them not developing it, I can do that myself with ICE. I'm more concerned the ability to get new seats. I'll just have to buy up as many as I can in the next 2 years I guess. Paul *From:* Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Chris, just demo them Redshift inside Softimage. When they see how it works... they must be crazy to ignore it then On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: Valid points Paul. At our shop I'm the last hold out using Softimage and I'm being forced to go down the Max Vray path. I personally plan to hold onto Soft until they tear it out of my cold dead hands. But in the meantime I have to play nice with the masses and move onto something else which has been predetermined. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM, p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Well its true that we can all carry on using it. Thats my plan for the foreseeable future, but Its very annoying that firstly you cant just buy Softimage alone after 2 weeks and then you have to get a package with Maya which will be more expensive, then in 2 years time, you can't get any more seats at all. There is no real justification for the bullying tactics whatever they say. I'm hardly bothered at all about them not developing it, I can do that myself with ICE. I'm more concerned the ability to get new seats. I'll just have to buy up as many as I can in the next 2 years I guess. Paul *From:* Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten
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Wait till they see it with 4 Titans installed. Goodbye renderfarm. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.comwrote: Chris, just demo them Redshift inside Softimage. When they see how it works... they must be crazy to ignore it then On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: Valid points Paul. At our shop I'm the last hold out using Softimage and I'm being forced to go down the Max Vray path. I personally plan to hold onto Soft until they tear it out of my cold dead hands. But in the meantime I have to play nice with the masses and move onto something else which has been predetermined. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM, p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Well its true that we can all carry on using it. Thats my plan for the foreseeable future, but Its very annoying that firstly you cant just buy Softimage alone after 2 weeks and then you have to get a package with Maya which will be more expensive, then in 2 years time, you can't get any more seats at all. There is no real justification for the bullying tactics whatever they say. I'm hardly bothered at all about them not developing it, I can do that myself with ICE. I'm more concerned the ability to get new seats. I'll just have to buy up as many as I can in the next 2 years I guess. Paul *From:* Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: +1 this; -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren't stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? 'Selling it as a particle system' my arse! I don't think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* More XSI Monkey business by The Mill While we are talking about why we want to keep using XSI, here goes another very good reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQo0Qtr5iU8 Morten -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956*sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
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Redshift is very, very nice. ATM, it seems 1 license will be fine to work with both Maya and Softimage. I have the Redshift paid beta running on my modeling box and use it to literally instantly get a good preview of what things are going to look like later. Redshift has completely changed the level of preview quality I take for granted. VRay 3 for Maya will sure be pretty nice, too. Arnold 1.0.1+ feels pretty mature now and can be found in a great many places looking for an extensible plattform. In terms of rendering options, this is like the golden age finally... Personally, for me it´s mostly Redshift but I wouldn´t automatically discard Vray in favor of Arnold. Arnold already needs significantly more dedication for just getting it to render a sequence out of Maya and the whole kick/ass thing and rlm business is a lot of script(ing) stuff where Vray may provide you with just a button/GUI that works as expected. To me, VRay is the final version of mental ray that actually just works. Arnold is like the stereotype of a TD. Powerful but not neccessarily easy to get just because you dialed the AA. Cheers, tim On 14.03.2014 21:46, Stephen Davidson wrote: Wait till they see it with 4 Titans installed. Goodbye renderfarm. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, just demo them Redshift inside Softimage. When they see how it works... they must be crazy to ignore it then On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com mailto:chr...@topixfx.com wrote: Valid points Paul. At our shop I'm the last hold out using Softimage and I'm being forced to go down the Max Vray path. I personally plan to hold onto Soft until they tear it out of my cold dead hands. But in the meantime I have to play nice with the masses and move onto something else which has been predetermined. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM, p...@bustykelp.com mailto:p...@bustykelp.com wrote: Well its true that we can all carry on using it. Thats my plan for the foreseeable future, but Its very annoying that firstly you cant just buy Softimage alone after 2 weeks and then you have to get a package with Maya which will be more expensive, then in 2 years time, you can’t get any more seats at all. There is no real justification for the bullying tactics whatever they say. I’m hardly bothered at all about them not developing it, I can do that myself with ICE. I’m more concerned the ability to get new seats. I’ll just have to buy up as many as I can in the next 2 years I guess. Paul *From:* Chris Johnson mailto:chr...@topixfx.com *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I doubt The Mill cares all that much. The artists might. Considering it's The Mill and they have the RD infrastructure to make Softimage and ICE do what they need toothey could probably work for a long time with the current version as is. What is Autodesk going to bring to the table in the next 2 releases that the Mill couldn't easily create themselves. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: __ +1 this; *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *p...@bustykelp.com mailto:p...@bustykelp.com *Sent:* 14 March 2014 15:03 *To:* Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: More XSI Monkey business by The Mill I wonder what the Mill think of all this debacle? Its so utterly ridiculous discontinuing Softimage. Its the best solution for designing complex character deformation bar none in my opinion. Surely Autodesk aren’t stupid enough to not be able to see that they have a diamond here? ‘Selling it as a particle system’ my arse! I don’t think they even know what they have. Paul *From:* Morten Bartholdy mailto:x...@colorshopvfx.dk *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:33 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
