Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
Am I the only one not impressed that they spent more of the press release covering their own ass. Sign of the times. -- Angus Davidson ICT Project Leader - Digital Arts University of the Witwatersrand On 04 February 2015 at 3:25:51 PM, Leendert A. Hartog (hirazib...@live.nlmailto:hirazib...@live.nl) wrote: This just dropped in my mailbox: Autodesk Details Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses http://news.autodesk.com/press-release/archived/autodesk-details-subscription-transition-new-software-licenses Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
RE: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
No, more to do with being public listed company. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: 04 February 2015 17:11 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses Am I the only one not impressed that they spent more of the press release covering their own ass. Sign of the times. -- Angus Davidson ICT Project Leader - Digital Arts University of the Witwatersrand On 04 February 2015 at 3:25:51 PM, Leendert A. Hartog (hirazib...@live.nlmailto:hirazib...@live.nl) wrote: This just dropped in my mailbox: Autodesk Details Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses http://news.autodesk.com/press-release/archived/autodesk-details-subscription-transition-new-software-licenses Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /table attachment: winmail.dat
Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
I hate to say I told you so, but... All I can say now is I feel bad for Max users, they are most likely next on the chopping block. Subscription-only was a given, and obvious. It is a win for AD, and hurts the users. Just look at Adobe. That has not played out well for many people, myself included. Autodesk doing this really sucks for the users (that I am not one of anymore, thankfully) to not have a choice, but then again, Autodesk doesn't care all that much about giving choices to the customer, or doing the right thing. You kind of can't blame them, they are a corporation. It is like blaming a wolf for eating a sheep. It is what they DO. *(to the music from Ferris Bueller's Day Off)* *I said it before and I'll say it again. Life moves pretty fast, if you don't stop and look around* *at software outside Autodesk, you might be stuck using Maya.* On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Graham Bell graham.b...@autodesk.com wrote: No, more to do with being public listed company. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: 04 February 2015 17:11 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses Am I the only one not impressed that they spent more of the press release covering their own ass. Sign of the times. -- Angus Davidson ICT Project Leader - Digital Arts University of the Witwatersrand On 04 February 2015 at 3:25:51 PM, Leendert A. Hartog (hirazib...@live.nl mailto:hirazib...@live.nl) wrote: This just dropped in my mailbox: Autodesk Details Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses http://news.autodesk.com/press-release/archived/autodesk-details-subscription-transition-new-software-licenses Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /table -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/ -25 Years Experience -Member of the Visual Effects Society (VES)
RE: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
Hi Graham ;) Just to clarify I wasnt talking about the safe harbor statement (which is really a listed companies version of lacking any form of a backbone or willingness to take any responsibility for what their actions might bring) I was talking about the circular covering in the paragraphs above that. I know far more people who are dropping Adobe purely because they did exactly the same thing. Some of them are still tied into long term contracts (3-5 years). But once that time is past Autodesk will be in the same position of wishing they had listened more to what their customers actually want , and less to what their bean counters told them they wanted. The only people who are listening at Autodesk are the people looking after educational licences.. Kind regards Angus From: Graham Bell [graham.b...@autodesk.com] Sent: 04 February 2015 08:48 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses No, more to do with being public listed company. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: 04 February 2015 17:11 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses Am I the only one not impressed that they spent more of the press release covering their own ass. Sign of the times. -- Angus Davidson ICT Project Leader - Digital Arts University of the Witwatersrand On 04 February 2015 at 3:25:51 PM, Leendert A. Hartog (hirazib...@live.nlmailto:hirazib...@live.nl) wrote: This just dropped in my mailbox: Autodesk Details Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses http://news.autodesk.com/press-release/archived/autodesk-details-subscription-transition-new-software-licenses Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /table table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
It's very possible the distinction will one day become closed source as service VS OSS, and the wedge of perennial licenses inbetween will be nearly non-existent offerings wise. With the increase in computation as a service rather than a hard commodity kept in air conditioned rooms those two licensing models work well, licenses tied to CPUs don't. They do need to revise the price points though, or provide immensely better service and updates to individuals, coupled with a much, much smoother and easier transition for third parties and a more stable platform. If upgrading Maya keeps being the Russian roulette with 5 bullets for 6 chambers of the last four or five versions, and every time a developer farts you have to fall back to aging tool chains (updated every 8 or so years), and recompile your plugins only to find half of them broken by the changes, things won't go well. Hopefully they will have enough time to rein the lot in and make it work. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Byron Nash byronn...@gmail.com wrote: Do you all not think that probably all software will go to a service model? Not that I'm entirely in favor one way or the other, it just seems like that's the way things are headed. I haven't minded the Adobe CC move that much. At least I can stay current and not have to bicker with the company about upgrades every year or so. -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Re: Subscription Transition for New Software Licenses
Do you all not think that probably all software will go to a service model? Not that I'm entirely in favor one way or the other, it just seems like that's the way things are headed. I haven't minded the Adobe CC move that much. At least I can stay current and not have to bicker with the company about upgrades every year or so.
