Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
that video seems to have gone MIA, but I've heard it might come back online later. There is another 1h video called Making Maya Easier to Use, from earlier on the month, which covers the 2016 modeling changes, some based on softimage feedback, along with other UI changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5ZsEIc9u8
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Wow, now we have Mix_2_Colors and Color Correction nodes in HyperShade... :) 2015-08-21 17:50 GMT-03:00 Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com: that video seems to have gone MIA, but I've heard it might come back online later. There is another 1h video called Making Maya Easier to Use, from earlier on the month, which covers the 2016 modeling changes, some based on softimage feedback, along with other UI changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5ZsEIc9u8 -- paulo-duarte.com
RE: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
The maya interface, buttons, their arrangement and the workflow have changed again to make it more useable again. And I was wondering where all the money goes. There it is. If they keep changing the rate of GUI/workflow changes, a maya artist will soon have a problem after coming back from holidays. sven -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 10:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. that video seems to have gone MIA, but I've heard it might come back online later. There is another 1h video called Making Maya Easier to Use, from earlier on the month, which covers the 2016 modeling changes, some based on softimage feedback, along with other UI changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5ZsEIc9u8
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The multi cut tool is fine in theory, but i noticed a lot of lag with moderately dense meshes. the same with welding, takes forever with nothing in the stack. On 21 August 2015 at 22:52, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: The maya interface, buttons, their arrangement and the workflow have changed again to make it more useable again. And I was wondering where all the money goes. There it is. If they keep changing the rate of GUI/workflow changes, a maya artist will soon have a problem after coming back from holidays. sven -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 10:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. that video seems to have gone MIA, but I've heard it might come back online later. There is another 1h video called Making Maya Easier to Use, from earlier on the month, which covers the 2016 modeling changes, some based on softimage feedback, along with other UI changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5ZsEIc9u8
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
So well it got pulled :x On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Am 17.08.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Graham Bell: Ha, no, because there's no reference to an actual feature name, product name (other than the intro) and release date. The video has been removed now, but there probably was a safe harbour statement at the beginning which is usually sufficient for this type of thing. Anything deeper and you need an NDA. I used to do a lot of these presentations :-) Over on the Foundry forums though, many there say that the content was good but the presentation presenter were bad. Why was the presentation presenter taken as bad but the content is still said to be good? There was no boasting, no promises, quite a bit of understatement and a general feeling of someone honestly sharing their findings sofar? Ahem. That´s a lot more than what I hoped for. As far as I understood it, this video wasn´t supposed to be a marketing flash. It was supposed to give a glimpse and that it did, very well. Cheers, tim The main thing though is that AD are at least showing some small glimpses into what they have planned. And if it was me, I’d be on to them saying get me an NDA and tell me more. G -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: 17 August 2015 10:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. Isn't this Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come presentation stretching the limits of (the side-effects of) the fabled Sarbanes-Oxley Act? Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue -- *--[image: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif]Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos http://probiner.xyz/ http://probiner.xyz/ http://probiner.x10.mx/*
RE: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
Ha, no, because there's no reference to an actual feature name, product name (other than the intro) and release date. The video has been removed now, but there probably was a safe harbour statement at the beginning which is usually sufficient for this type of thing. Anything deeper and you need an NDA. I used to do a lot of these presentations :-) Over on the Foundry forums though, many there say that the content was good but the presentation presenter were bad. The main thing though is that AD are at least showing some small glimpses into what they have planned. And if it was me, I’d be on to them saying get me an NDA and tell me more. G -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: 17 August 2015 10:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. Isn't this Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come presentation stretching the limits of (the side-effects of) the fabled Sarbanes-Oxley Act? Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
Here's a rant for you people. :) - I think people wants to be blind forever. There's no war or anger around, is just facts. We all know that Autodesk is a solid company but at the same time it's the industry joke. I would applaud Autodesk development if i see something that's really new, not something that has been around years ago; that's not what big companies do. They kill Softimage to have their resources, right? And the Maya development team where is it? Why they need to kill Softimage to fusion people from there to the Maya team? For what? I haven't seen an increase in NEW things since that happen. Where's the creativity of doing something that no one has? Where is it? Where is the healthy competition? Maya + Softimage teams together and where's the one and only Maya? I haven't seen it. How many devs are in that team? 1 or 2? There must be at least 20 people working in the team by now and maybe more. Where is the money going? To the CEO? damn people.. open your eyes. Softimage is just an example, go to the past and see all the stuff Autodesk was doing to all those amazing software's they bought, year by year. Do you still blind? Ok. Now here's another New feature Autodesk is selling for Maya. ok ok... It's nice, right? Holy sh...!! It's Mudbox inside of Maya. Ok ok , is nothing, is just a little taste of the FUTURE. Are you still blind? C'mon.. Let's see Mudbox development, since Mud2012 there has been no Good development or updates, we only see few stuff, every year less and less. You know how many we have for this year? 4 New things in Mudbox! Yeah!! - Relax Brush - Twist Brush - Sculpting Falloff options - Better brush-based workflows Really? 4 NEW ...kind of somet... Oh give me a break, those are dumb updates! One guy could make better plugins for it, ONE guy! Throw money and 2 more guys willl create an entire new mudbox! Where are all the bug fixes? Where is the Z-spheres look a like? Where are the Real brushes? And so on.. That's the FUTURE??? Oh one more thing, Mudbox to Softimage, is NO Longer there awww :( Ok ok...that's no important, right? And you know what it's coming next?? Yeahh Killing Mudbox and integrate that in the one and only toolcrap Maya! I'm so sorry if i not buying this joke! Mudbox needs a lot of improvements! Maya.. ohh sweet lord of Mayans... that software it's good superficially i really like that until i began to go inside... and then it just CRASH, of course it has the most satanic workflows i've ever seen! Going from point A to B, requires more than 3 steps to get there, sometimes MORE. It's slow as hell, and what about the LONG TIME BUGS? Do you have a List Autodesk? THEre's TONS of those, TONS!.. That's the reality. They sell you bananas and blind people keep eating them. When Autodesk stop trying to sell us Old things as NEW, then i will applaud them and be happy to scream.. At last !! When Autodesk stop trying to not-be-competitive and began to-be-competitive, then i'll applaud them! When Autodesk give us something NOBODY has and put all those creative devs to work in something no other apps have implemented yet, something others will never have.. then.. THEN i'll applaud them. And for Christ sake when i open Maya for my second time... if i don't see any error in the Output window, then... only then.. I'll cry of joy! Until them, Autodesk for me is just a monopoly-company who thinks people are stupid ! Are you still blind? pd: sorry for my eng. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: That video gave some very thrilling insights and the presentation style by Andrew was very enjoyable, too. The handling of self-intersections and fusing of surfaces into a unified shell is really desireable, especially if it doesn´t inflict a modification of the entire surface topology but is a more localized effect, compared to a dynamesh workflow that can easily destroy surface details when resurfacing elements into a combined result. The entire modeling process shown, even in this early stage, seemed very fluid, intuitive and desireable. Like clay. I can very well understand the frustration about the realities of working with many of the tools implemented in Maya and am finding myself with the general impression that more often than not, a tool or workflow will be developed only so far, then ressources seem to be drained and focus is put on something else, leaving the user with a toolset that can cost a lot of time to realize it won´t solve the problem given as understood. Like needing to clean up the house. You get a Broom and even a Dustpan but the Dustpan has been knotted to the Broomstick using a nice cord but that cord is to short. Cutting that cord breaks the stick but not cutting it breaks the desired workflow of sweeping the dust with the broom into the pan. The suggested workaround is to use two sets of BroomPan, one to sweep up and one to catch the dust with the pan. Four
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
What are you talking about? You are totally missing the point, this is not a beauty contest, we are professionals discussing on a video about the history of modeling tools.
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
On 08/17/15 3:08, Tim Leydecker wrote: The entire modeling process shown, even in this early stage, seemed very fluid, intuitive and desireable. Like clay. I agree and maybe the fact that it's mostly Maya that's getting new things now, (and/or everything that happened to softimage and where it is now, and perhaps certain policies and such) that could explain some perhaps overly negative perceptions, but to be fair, I think it's at least very good concepts. yet still for a shot at an unbiased critique: speed, reliability and workflow implications of always being in hi-poly unless retopologizing remains a very gray area (despite perhaps live poly reductions filters), with likely very similar problems as old pre-SubD higher-poly subdivided or 'rounded' polygon meshes, or like always working with scanned meshes. (concerning optimal topology and keeping 'high level' control of high detail) But even if it would be somewhat bad at all these things, it still looks like it would be at least very useful for a number of things. Cheers, On 08/17/15 3:08, Tim Leydecker wrote: That video gave some very thrilling insights and the presentation style by Andrew was very enjoyable, too. The handling of self-intersections and fusing of surfaces into a unified shell is really desireable, especially if it doesn´t inflict a modification of the entire surface topology but is a more localized effect, compared to a dynamesh workflow that can easily destroy surface details when resurfacing elements into a combined result. The entire modeling process shown, even in this early stage, seemed very fluid, intuitive and desireable. Like clay. I can very well understand the frustration about the realities of working with many of the tools implemented in Maya and am finding myself with the general impression that more often than not, a tool or workflow will be developed only so far, then ressources seem to be drained and focus is put on something else, leaving the user with a toolset that can cost a lot of time to realize it won´t solve the problem given as understood. Like needing to clean up the house. You get a Broom and even a Dustpan but the Dustpan has been knotted to the Broomstick using a nice cord but that cord is to short. Cutting that cord breaks the stick but not cutting it breaks the desired workflow of sweeping the dust with the broom into the pan. The suggested workaround is to use two sets of "BroomPan", one to sweep up and one to catch the dust with the pan. Four hands required or performance may suffer... This kind of development result is not unique to Maya. We have an airport in progress here in Berlin that suffers from the same 21st century approach to problem solving. Breaking up things into seemingly simple tasks, making a bullet point list and then just checking off each of those tasks when completed doesn´t automatically result in a working result at the end. That´s just 21st century pencil pushing and leads to depreciated results, completely ingoring any higher levels of task dependencies for a successful completion. That´s not the fault of the worker bee. It´s the fault of the guy signing off the budget based on a bullet points simply omitting: -quality control - test - additional rd - test - v 2.0 - test - ... from that bulletpoint list. That´s the cost intensive, tedious and boring part of creating a BroomPan that may actually work as needed, even if all that has changed in the end is that finally, the cord is longer. It can be very tempting to instead go ahead, ignore the Pan problem completely and just sweep things under the rug... Cheers, tim Am 17.08.2015 um 03:10 schrieb Perry Harovas: I agree Martin, I actually really respected the presentation and thought it looked good. I don't know what all the anger is about with regards to this presentation... For God sake Andrew is a modeler. He is one of us. He makes really great points here, and the tech looks interesting. On Sun, Aug 16,
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
So why did it get pulled? Something deemed wrong with it after all? :p Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
RE: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
I think this is positive. Having a vision even if it's on broad tasks to me is a big step forward. However once you start down this road it makes having multiple apps more and more of an issue. -Original Message- From: Graham Bell [mailto:bell...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 August 2015 11:11 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. Ha, no, because there's no reference to an actual feature name, product name (other than the intro) and release date. The video has been removed now, but there probably was a safe harbour statement at the beginning which is usually sufficient for this type of thing. Anything deeper and you need an NDA. I used to do a lot of these presentations :-) Over on the Foundry forums though, many there say that the content was good but the presentation presenter were bad. The main thing though is that AD are at least showing some small glimpses into what they have planned. And if it was me, I’d be on to them saying get me an NDA and tell me more. G -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: 17 August 2015 10:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation. Isn't this Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come presentation stretching the limits of (the side-effects of) the fabled Sarbanes-Oxley Act? Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
For those who did not have a chance to see the presentation yet: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31z7u9_the-future-of-modeling_school Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
That video gave some very thrilling insights and the presentation style by Andrew was very enjoyable, too. The handling of self-intersections and fusing of surfaces into a unified shell is really desireable, especially if it doesn´t inflict a modification of the entire surface topology but is a more localized effect, compared to a dynamesh workflow that can easily destroy surface details when resurfacing elements into a combined result. The entire modeling process shown, even in this early stage, seemed very fluid, intuitive and desireable. Like clay. I can very well understand the frustration about the realities of working with many of the tools implemented in Maya and am finding myself with the general impression that more often than not, a tool or workflow will be developed only so far, then ressources seem to be drained and focus is put on something else, leaving the user with a toolset that can cost a lot of time to realize it won´t solve the problem given as understood. Like needing to clean up the house. You get a Broom and even a Dustpan but the Dustpan has been knotted to the Broomstick using a nice cord but that cord is to short. Cutting that cord breaks the stick but not cutting it breaks the desired workflow of sweeping the dust with the broom into the pan. The suggested workaround is to use two sets of BroomPan, one to sweep up and one to catch the dust with the pan. Four hands required or performance may suffer... This kind of development result is not unique to Maya. We have an airport in progress here in Berlin that suffers from the same 21st century approach to problem solving. Breaking up things into seemingly simple tasks, making a bullet point list and then just checking off each of those tasks when completed doesn´t automatically result in a working result at the end. That´s just 21st century pencil pushing and leads to depreciated results, completely ingoring any higher levels of task dependencies for a successful completion. That´s not the fault of the worker bee. It´s the fault of the guy signing off the budget based on a bullet points simply omitting: -quality control - test - additional rd - test - v 2.0 - test - ... from that bulletpoint list. That´s the cost intensive, tedious and boring part of creating a BroomPan that may actually work as needed, even if all that has changed in the end is that finally, the cord is longer. It can be very tempting to instead go ahead, ignore the Pan problem completely and just sweep things under the rug... Cheers, tim Am 17.08.2015 um 03:10 schrieb Perry Harovas: I agree Martin, I actually really respected the presentation and thought it looked good. I don't know what all the anger is about with regards to this presentation... For God sake Andrew is a modeler. He is one of us. He makes really great points here, and the tech looks interesting. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Martin furik...@gmail.com mailto:furik...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not happy with their decisions, prices and now rental services but is it really necessary to bash Autodesk for every single thing they do? This time I don't see what they are doing wrong. They are developing something and showing a preview video. Martin Sent from my iPhone On 2015/08/16, at 20:59, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Cesar, development is nothing without completing full working usable product. Nice PR video is nothing if you cannot use the tool in daily production without pulling your hair. If it isn't polished tool that you can relay on in production then it is just nice PR video. nothing else. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, mikael.petter...@gmail.com mailto:mikael.petter...@gmail.com wrote: Looks very cool, actually! Skickat från min iPhone 16 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Cesar Saez cesa...@gmail.com mailto:cesa...@gmail.com: I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments are going to. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com mailto:tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year with plugins, Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this Mudbox Plugin will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent Vision for the future Autodesk, i'm so sorry. We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller activemotionpictu...@gmail.com wrote: They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! My stomach aches. Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. Just sayin´... On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQwfeature=youtu.bet=465 Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many places but not under the same package room using the same standard package tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with Maya's entrails, but looks good. Cheers -- Portfolio 2013 http://be.net/3dcinetv Cinema TV production Video Reel https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012
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I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments are going to. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year with plugins, Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this Mudbox Plugin will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent Vision for the future Autodesk, i'm so sorry. We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller activemotionpictu...@gmail.com wrote: They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! My stomach aches. Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. Just sayin´... On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQwfeature=youtu.bet=465 Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many places but not under the same package room using the same standard package tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with Maya's entrails, but looks good. Cheers -- Portfolio 2013 http://be.net/3dcinetv Cinema TV production Video Reel https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012
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Cesar, development is nothing without completing full working usable product. Nice PR video is nothing if you cannot use the tool in daily production without pulling your hair. If it isn't polished tool that you can relay on in production then it is just nice PR video. nothing else. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, mikael.petter...@gmail.com wrote: Looks very cool, actually! Skickat från min iPhone 16 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Cesar Saez cesa...@gmail.com: I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments are going to. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year with plugins, Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this Mudbox Plugin will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent Vision for the future Autodesk, i'm so sorry. We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller activemotionpictu...@gmail.com wrote: They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! My stomach aches. Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. Just sayin´... On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQwfeature=youtu.bet=465 Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many places but not under the same package room using the same standard package tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with Maya's entrails, but looks good. Cheers -- Portfolio 2013 http://be.net/3dcinetv Cinema TV production Video Reel https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
Looks very cool, actually! Skickat från min iPhone 16 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Cesar Saez cesa...@gmail.com: I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments are going to. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year with plugins, Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this Mudbox Plugin will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent Vision for the future Autodesk, i'm so sorry. We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller activemotionpictu...@gmail.com wrote: They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! My stomach aches. Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. Just sayin´... On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQwfeature=youtu.bet=465 Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many places but not under the same package room using the same standard package tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with Maya's entrails, but looks good. Cheers -- Portfolio 2013 Cinema TV production Video Reel
Re: So this is where the MeshMixer dev has been hiding? Nice presentation.
I'm not happy with their decisions, prices and now rental services but is it really necessary to bash Autodesk for every single thing they do? This time I don't see what they are doing wrong. They are developing something and showing a preview video. Martin Sent from my iPhone On 2015/08/16, at 20:59, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Cesar, development is nothing without completing full working usable product. Nice PR video is nothing if you cannot use the tool in daily production without pulling your hair. If it isn't polished tool that you can relay on in production then it is just nice PR video. nothing else. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, mikael.petter...@gmail.com wrote: Looks very cool, actually! Skickat från min iPhone 16 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Cesar Saez cesa...@gmail.com: I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments are going to. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e with another and falling apart vision off Maya Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are being made, but in reality they are good for nothing On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . tenshu...@gmail.com wrote: So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the 2016? Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year with plugins, Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this Mudbox Plugin will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent Vision for the future Autodesk, i'm so sorry. We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller activemotionpictu...@gmail.com wrote: They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! My stomach aches. Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. Just sayin´... On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQwfeature=youtu.bet=465 Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many places but not under the same package room using the same standard package tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with Maya's entrails, but looks good. Cheers -- Portfolio 2013 Cinema TV production Video Reel
