RE: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-17 Thread Ho Chung Nguyen
Hi Sebastian

It seems that Houdini exported the ‘up’ attribute not as vec3f, but an array of 
floats. I know binary-wise it’s the same, but Alembic still treats it as custom 
data, and we don’t support these on our side.
To work around this, can you convert them into vec3f type in Houdini first 
before exporting?

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Subject: RE: alembic from hou to xsi issues

hey, here is the file: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5cLxJeOrDLldXN2LUtQQTlaVTA/edit?usp=sharing
there are following attributes included:

- vel (3f), loads as vector
- normal (3f), loads as vector
- up (3f), loads as single float in softimage
- angular (3f), loads as single float in softimage

thanks for looking into it.

-sebastian


> Ho Chung Nguyen 
> mailto:hochung.ngu...@autodesk.com>> hat am 11. 
> September 2014 um 06:00 geschrieben:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian
>
> Do you mind sending us the Alembic file you exported from Houdini?
> Vec3f is a basic type we support in XSI Alembic, unless Houdini exports the 
> data into some unexpected Alembic type.
>
> From: 
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>  
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]<mailto:[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]>
>  On Behalf Of Sebastian Kowalski
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:45 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> Subject: Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues
>
> I can work with that issue. just writing 3 different float attributes for 
> every vector attribute I need. Stupid, but a workaround,again.
>
> s.
>
> Am 10.09.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Andy Goehler 
> mailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com<mailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com%3cmailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com>>>:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> as already mentioned Exocortex Crate does this reliable.
> See here: http://exocortex.com/blog/crate_custom_attribute_softimage
>
> Just a side note, getting custom attributes from XSI into Houdini can be a 
> pain too and I've had much better luck exporting those from 2015 with its 
> onboard Alembic than with Crate.
>
> Andy
>
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 17:29, Sebastian Kowalski 
> mailto:l...@sekow.com<mailto:l...@sekow.com%3cmailto:l...@sekow.com>>>
>  wrote:
>
>
> I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and 
> stumble on one issue.
>
> Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory 
> attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than 
> just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi).
> But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user 
> attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. 
> Not even as a array of 3 values per point.
>
> As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am 
> pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi.
> Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid.
> Anyone experience the same?
> Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
>
> sebastian
>
>
> --
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>
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RE: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-11 Thread l...@sekow.com
hey, here is the file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5cLxJeOrDLldXN2LUtQQTlaVTA/edit?usp=sharing
there are following attributes included:

- vel (3f), loads as vector
- normal (3f), loads as vector
- up (3f), loads as single float in softimage
- angular (3f), loads as single float in softimage

thanks for looking into it.

-sebastian


> Ho Chung Nguyen  hat am 11. September 2014 um
> 06:00 geschrieben:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian
>
> Do you mind sending us the Alembic file you exported from Houdini?
> Vec3f is a basic type we support in XSI Alembic, unless Houdini exports the
> data into some unexpected Alembic type.
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian
> Kowalski
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:45 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues
>
> I can work with that issue. just writing 3 different float attributes for
> every vector attribute I need. Stupid, but a workaround,again.
>
> s.
>
> Am 10.09.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Andy Goehler
> mailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com>>:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> as already mentioned Exocortex Crate does this reliable.
> See here: http://exocortex.com/blog/crate_custom_attribute_softimage
>
> Just a side note, getting custom attributes from XSI into Houdini can be a
> pain too and I've had much better luck exporting those from 2015 with its
> onboard Alembic than with Crate.
>
> Andy
>
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 17:29, Sebastian Kowalski
> mailto:l...@sekow.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and
> stumble on one issue.
>
> Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory
> attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than
> just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi).
> But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user
> attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. Not
> even as a array of 3 values per point.
>
> As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am
> pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi.
> Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid.
> Anyone experience the same?
> Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
>
> sebastian
>
>
> --
> http://www.sekow.com<http://www.sekow.com/>
>
>

RE: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Ho Chung Nguyen
Hi Sebastian

Do you mind sending us the Alembic file you exported from Houdini?
Vec3f is a basic type we support in XSI Alembic, unless Houdini exports the 
data into some unexpected Alembic type.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Kowalski
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:45 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues

I can work with that issue. just writing 3 different float attributes for every 
vector attribute I need. Stupid, but a workaround,again.

s.

Am 10.09.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Andy Goehler 
mailto:lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com>>:


Hi Sebastian,

as already mentioned Exocortex Crate does this reliable.
See here: http://exocortex.com/blog/crate_custom_attribute_softimage

Just a side note, getting custom attributes from XSI into Houdini can be a pain 
too and I've had much better luck exporting those from 2015 with its onboard 
Alembic than with Crate.

Andy

On Sep 10, 2014, at 17:29, Sebastian Kowalski 
mailto:l...@sekow.com>> wrote:


I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and stumble 
on one issue.

Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory attributes' 
like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than just one 
letter, cause it wont appear in xsi).
But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user 
attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. Not 
even as a array of 3 values per point.

As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am 
pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi.
Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid.
Anyone experience the same?
Its with the 2015 version of xsi.

sebastian


--
http://www.sekow.com<http://www.sekow.com/>


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Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Sebastian Kowalski
I can work with that issue. just writing 3 different float attributes for every 
vector attribute I need. Stupid, but a workaround,….again. 

s.


Am 10.09.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Andy Goehler :

> Hi Sebastian,
> 
> as already mentioned Exocortex Crate does this reliable.
> See here: http://exocortex.com/blog/crate_custom_attribute_softimage
> 
> Just a side note, getting custom attributes from XSI into Houdini can be a 
> pain too and I’ve had much better luck exporting those from 2015 with its 
> onboard Alembic than with Crate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Sep 10, 2014, at 17:29, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:
> 
>> I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and 
>> stumble on one issue. 
>> 
>> Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory 
>> attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than 
>> just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi). 
>> But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user 
>> attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. 
>> Not even as a array of 3 values per point. 
>> 
>> As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am 
>> pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi. 
>> Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid. 
>> Anyone experience the same? 
>> Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
>> 
>> sebastian
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> http://www.sekow.com
> 



Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Andy Goehler
Hi Sebastian,

as already mentioned Exocortex Crate does this reliable.
See here: http://exocortex.com/blog/crate_custom_attribute_softimage

Just a side note, getting custom attributes from XSI into Houdini can be a pain 
too and I’ve had much better luck exporting those from 2015 with its onboard 
Alembic than with Crate.

Andy

On Sep 10, 2014, at 17:29, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:

> I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and 
> stumble on one issue. 
> 
> Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory 
> attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than 
> just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi). 
> But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user 
> attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. 
> Not even as a array of 3 values per point. 
> 
> As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am 
> pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi. 
> Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid. 
> Anyone experience the same? 
> Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
> 
> sebastian
> 
> 
> --
> http://www.sekow.com



Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
With the crate version im sure you can rewire the abc point node and
retrieve any custom values you might have assigned . If i can recall
correctly you could hack the abc load point node, get the alembic points
duplicate it and point the identifier to the attribute, and rewire it so it
sets the needed data, but this was ages ago, and im not sure if has changed
as i haven't used it in nearly two years, but im sure it worked on a color
attribute from a houdini mesh.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Angus Davidson 
wrote:

> Why donšt you try the exocortex crate implementation, you can use the
> trial that works on 100 frames or so.
>
> On 2014/09/10, 5:29 PM, "Sebastian Kowalski"  wrote:
>
> >I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and
> >stumble on one issue.
> >
> >Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory
> >attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more
> >than just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi).
> >But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user
> >attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float
> >value. Not even as a array of 3 values per point.
> >
> >As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I
> >am pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi.
> >Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid.
> >Anyone experience the same?
> >Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
> >
> >sebastian
> >
> >
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Re: alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Angus Davidson
Why don¹t you try the exocortex crate implementation, you can use the
trial that works on 100 frames or so.

On 2014/09/10, 5:29 PM, "Sebastian Kowalski"  wrote:

>I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and
>stumble on one issue.
>
>Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory
>attributes' like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more
>than just one letter, cause it wont appear in xsi).
>But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user
>attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float
>value. Not even as a array of 3 values per point.
>
>As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I
>am pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi.
>Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid.
>Anyone experience the same?
>Its with the 2015 version of xsi.
>
>sebastian
>
>
>--
>http://www.sekow.com

 

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alembic from hou to xsi issues

2014-09-10 Thread Sebastian Kowalski
I am exporting some points into an alembic file from houdini to xsi and stumble 
on one issue. 

Transferring attributes works good for what you could call 'factory attributes' 
like P or v (we have to rename that to something with more than just one 
letter, cause it wont appear in xsi). 
But I also compute angular velocity (w) and couple other 'arbitrary user 
attributes', all vectors (3f). This suckers come in as single float value. Not 
even as a array of 3 values per point. 

As the same alembic file works like expected as re-import in houdini, I am 
pretty sure it is an eff up in xsi. 
Just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid. 
Anyone experience the same? 
Its with the 2015 version of xsi.

sebastian


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