[Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port range (draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all,

We submitted a new I-D identifying the requirements to be met when designing 
the format of IPv4-embedded IPv6 addresses/prefixes enclosing the port 
information. The first list of requirements is available at: 

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00#section-3

Contributions, comments and suggestions on the requirements section are 
encouraged.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med
 

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Objet : I-D Action: draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

Title   : Embedding Port Information in IPv4-Translatable IPv6 
Prefixes and IPv4- Embedded IPv6 Addresses
Author(s)   : Mohamed Boucadair
  Congxiao Bao
  Nejc Skoberne
  Xing Li
Filename: 
draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt
Pages   : 10
Date: 2011-09-07

   RFC6052 specifies the algorithmic translation of an IPv6 address to a
   corresponding IPv4 address, and vice versa.  In particular, RFC6052
   specifies the address format to build IPv4-converted and IPv4-
   translatable IPv6 addresses.  In order to be deployed in the context
   of stateless 4/6 solutions, RFC6052 should be updated so that IPv4-
   embedded IPv6 addresses convey the port information.  This document
   identifies a set of requirements to be taken into account when
   updating RFC6052 for that purpose.

   A companion effort, document at
   [I-D.bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis], is required to
   converge on one or a set of algorithms to be used by all stateless
   solutions.


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Re: [Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port range (draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Maoke,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med


De : Maoke [mailto:fib...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 7 septembre 2011 15:43
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
Objet : Re: [Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port 
range (draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update)

hi all,

i'd like to commet on the interesting question after REQ#5 Do we allow the 
support of multiple algorithms?.

my answer is NO. intuitively, it sounds ok if we allow multiple algorithms, as 
long as the algorithm type is also encoded in the IPv4-embedded IPv6 address 
together with the port index. however, it is only applied for the case of 
translating an IPv4-embedded IPv6 address to IPv4. for the reverse direction, 
the algorithm selection might be randomly decided by the translator devices. 
inconsistency of port indexing algorithm violates the end-to-end transparency. 
coordinating algorithm selection is possible but it might must costs.
[Med] I see your point and it makes sense to me. There is also an underlying 
question we wanted to discuss: is it acceptable for the WG to specify several 
algorithms (see for instance RFC6056) but only one algorithm MUST be enabled in 
a network.

btw, it looks the reference on port indexing algorithm analysis should be 
...-bsd-... rather than ...-boucadair-... ;-)
[Med] Fixed. Thanks.

best,
maoke

2011/9/7 
mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.commailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com
Dear all,

We submitted a new I-D identifying the requirements to be met when designing 
the format of IPv4-embedded IPv6 addresses/prefixes enclosing the port 
information. The first list of requirements is available at:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00#section-3

Contributions, comments and suggestions on the requirements section are 
encouraged.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med


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Envoyé : mercredi 7 septembre 2011 13:56
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Objet : I-D Action: draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

   Title   : Embedding Port Information in IPv4-Translatable IPv6 
Prefixes and IPv4- Embedded IPv6 Addresses
   Author(s)   : Mohamed Boucadair
 Congxiao Bao
 Nejc Skoberne
 Xing Li
   Filename: 
draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt
   Pages   : 10
   Date: 2011-09-07

  RFC6052 specifies the algorithmic translation of an IPv6 address to a
  corresponding IPv4 address, and vice versa.  In particular, RFC6052
  specifies the address format to build IPv4-converted and IPv4-
  translatable IPv6 addresses.  In order to be deployed in the context
  of stateless 4/6 solutions, RFC6052 should be updated so that IPv4-
  embedded IPv6 addresses convey the port information.  This document
  identifies a set of requirements to be taken into account when
  updating RFC6052 for that purpose.

  A companion effort, document at
  [I-D.bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis], is required to
  converge on one or a set of algorithms to be used by all stateless
  solutions.


A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update-00.txt
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