Re: rough outline of where Solr's going

2010-03-18 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hmmm... may be I am completely wrong but let's take JBoss. It ships products
based on community driven projects but I am not aware of the fact that they
would try to affect community wrt to numbering or repositories merges. It is
up to JBoss developers and testers to deal with this complexity and
deliver commercial product and explain customers what is in.

Just my 2 cents (probably not related to this discussion at all - I hope).
Lukas

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/18/2010 02:49 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote:

 Use 3.1 and developers in the know will understand that i's because we're
 using LuceneJava 3.1; but uninformed users *might* be confused as to why
 it jumped to a (seemingly) arbitrary number.



 Sorry about the following non serious reply:

 It hasn't seemed to hurt the most popular software in the world to be way
 worse than that ;)

 1, 2, 3, NT, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, CE, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008, 7 (by who's
 count in what manner?).

 --
 - Mark

 http://www.lucidimagination.com






Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-08 Thread Lukáš Vlček
I am trying to learn IDEA, I have been using it for few weeks and I really
it.Try asking some of core solr developer which are using IDEA why did they
choose it.

Regards,
Lukas


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Pradeep Pujari prade...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 is IntelliJIDEA is a free java IDE? Why can not use Eclipse, which is
 perhaps more popular and free?

 Thanks,
 Pradeep.

 --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Lukáš Vlček lukas.vl...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Lukáš Vlček lukas.vl...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice
  To: solr-dev@lucene.apache.org
  Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 2:05 AM
  Cool, I figured out the the error for
  example 1:It was on the IntelliJ IDEA
  side. It is necessay to allow *.txt in resource patterns
  (File - Settings
  [also Ctrl + Alt + S])
 
  Rgds,
  Lukas
 
  On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Lukáš Vlček lukas.vl...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
   First of all, thanks for all your comments. I am
  trying to set-up just
   solr-core for now.
  
   What I mean by this is that I ended up with one
  project having two modules
   (speaking about IntelliJ IDEA project and modules):
  
   Module 1:
   Solr-trunk (this is what I
  consider to be a solr-core)
   path:
  C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src
  
   source folders:
   - common
   - java
   - solrj
   -
  test\test-files\solr\conf...[!]
  
   test source folders:
   - test
   -
  test\test-files
  
   Module 2:
   Webapp (It is necessary to
  setup Webapp module as the Solr-trunk needs
   it as a dependency - but in fact it seems to be needed
  just by tests)
   path:
  C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src\webapp
  
   source fodlers:
   - src
  
  
   Now...
   Many individual tests work with this configuration but
  not all.
   Example 1)
   TestQuerySenderListener
  
   java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
  'stopwords.txt' in
   classpath or 'solr/conf/',
  cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:242)
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:216)
at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.analysis.StopFilterFactory.inform(StopFilterFactory.java:53)
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.inform(SolrResourceLoader.java:426)
at
  org.apache.solr.schema.IndexSchema.init(IndexSchema.java:102)
   at
  org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.init(TestHarness.java:124)
at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:105)
   at
  com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
at
  sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at
  
 
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at
  
 
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
   at
  com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)
  
   I don't know why it does not locate stopwords.txt file
  while its fodler is
   in source folders list (see [!] above).
  
   Example 2)
   TestSpellCheckResponse
  
   java.lang.RuntimeException:
  java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
   '../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in
  classpath or 'solr/conf/',
   cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
at
  org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:85)
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:104)
at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.client.solrj.SolrExampleTestBase.setUp(SolrExampleTestBase.java:41)
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.client.solrj.response.TestSpellCheckResponse.setUp(TestSpellCheckResponse.java:47)
at
  
  com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
  Method)
at
  
 
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at
  
 
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at
  com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)
   Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find
  resource
   '../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in
  classpath or 'solr/conf/',
   cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
   at
  
 
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openConfig(SolrResourceLoader.java:165)
at
  org.apache.solr.core.Config.init(Config.java:101)
   at
  org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:123)
at
  org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:89)
   at
  org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:82)
... 21 more
  
   It seems that the source folders list is not complete.
  I

Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-07 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Cool, I figured out the the error for example 1:It was on the IntelliJ IDEA
side. It is necessay to allow *.txt in resource patterns (File - Settings
[also Ctrl + Alt + S])

Rgds,
Lukas

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Lukáš Vlček lukas.vl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 First of all, thanks for all your comments. I am trying to set-up just
 solr-core for now.

 What I mean by this is that I ended up with one project having two modules
 (speaking about IntelliJ IDEA project and modules):

 Module 1:
 Solr-trunk (this is what I consider to be a solr-core)
 path: C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src

 source folders:
 - common
 - java
 - solrj
 - test\test-files\solr\conf...[!]

 test source folders:
 - test
 - test\test-files

 Module 2:
 Webapp (It is necessary to setup Webapp module as the Solr-trunk needs
 it as a dependency - but in fact it seems to be needed just by tests)
 path: C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src\webapp

 source fodlers:
 - src


 Now...
 Many individual tests work with this configuration but not all.
 Example 1)
 TestQuerySenderListener

 java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource 'stopwords.txt' in
 classpath or 'solr/conf/', cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
 at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
  at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:242)
 at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:216)
  at
 org.apache.solr.analysis.StopFilterFactory.inform(StopFilterFactory.java:53)
 at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.inform(SolrResourceLoader.java:426)
  at org.apache.solr.schema.IndexSchema.init(IndexSchema.java:102)
 at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.init(TestHarness.java:124)
  at
 org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:105)
 at com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
  at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
 at
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
  at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
 at com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)

 I don't know why it does not locate stopwords.txt file while its fodler is
 in source folders list (see [!] above).

 Example 2)
 TestSpellCheckResponse

 java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
 '../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in classpath or 'solr/conf/',
 cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
  at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:85)
 at
 org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:104)
  at
 org.apache.solr.client.solrj.SolrExampleTestBase.setUp(SolrExampleTestBase.java:41)
 at
 org.apache.solr.client.solrj.response.TestSpellCheckResponse.setUp(TestSpellCheckResponse.java:47)
  at
 com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
 at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
  at
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
 at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
  at com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)
 Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
 '../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in classpath or 'solr/conf/',
 cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
  at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
 at
 org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openConfig(SolrResourceLoader.java:165)
  at org.apache.solr.core.Config.init(Config.java:101)
 at org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:123)
  at org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:89)
 at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:82)
  ... 21 more

 It seems that the source folders list is not complete. I probably need to
 add example folder into source folders list. That is fine but makes me think
 if solr tests are structured in an intuitive way.

 Regards,
 Lukas

 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Yonik Seeley 
 yo...@lucidimagination.comwrote:

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Shalin Shekhar
 Mangarshalinman...@gmail.com wrote:
  To run a test from IDEA, set the start path (I don't remember the exact
  name) to src/test/test-files.

 Right, it's the working directory.
 I tend to run single tests via intellij for easy debugging and the
 full testsuite from ant.

 -Yonik
 http://www.lucidimagination.com





Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-05 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,
First of all, thanks for all your comments. I am trying to set-up just
solr-core for now.

What I mean by this is that I ended up with one project having two modules
(speaking about IntelliJ IDEA project and modules):

Module 1:
Solr-trunk (this is what I consider to be a solr-core)
path: C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src

source folders:
- common
- java
- solrj
- test\test-files\solr\conf...[!]

test source folders:
- test
- test\test-files

Module 2:
Webapp (It is necessary to setup Webapp module as the Solr-trunk needs
it as a dependency - but in fact it seems to be needed just by tests)
path: C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk\src\webapp

source fodlers:
- src


Now...
Many individual tests work with this configuration but not all.
Example 1)
TestQuerySenderListener

java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource 'stopwords.txt' in classpath
or 'solr/conf/', cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
 at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:242)
at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.getLines(SolrResourceLoader.java:216)
 at
org.apache.solr.analysis.StopFilterFactory.inform(StopFilterFactory.java:53)
at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.inform(SolrResourceLoader.java:426)
 at org.apache.solr.schema.IndexSchema.init(IndexSchema.java:102)
at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.init(TestHarness.java:124)
 at
org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:105)
at com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
 at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
 at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)

I don't know why it does not locate stopwords.txt file while its fodler is
in source folders list (see [!] above).

Example 2)
TestSpellCheckResponse

java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
'../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in classpath or 'solr/conf/',
cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
 at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:85)
at
org.apache.solr.util.AbstractSolrTestCase.setUp(AbstractSolrTestCase.java:104)
 at
org.apache.solr.client.solrj.SolrExampleTestBase.setUp(SolrExampleTestBase.java:41)
at
org.apache.solr.client.solrj.response.TestSpellCheckResponse.setUp(TestSpellCheckResponse.java:47)
 at com.intellij.rt.execution.junit.JUnitStarter.main(JUnitStarter.java:40)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
 at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
 at com.intellij.rt.execution.application.AppMain.main(AppMain.java:90)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Can't find resource
'../../../example/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml' in classpath or 'solr/conf/',
cwd=C:\projects\asf\solr-trunk
 at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openResource(SolrResourceLoader.java:197)
at
org.apache.solr.core.SolrResourceLoader.openConfig(SolrResourceLoader.java:165)
 at org.apache.solr.core.Config.init(Config.java:101)
at org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:123)
 at org.apache.solr.core.SolrConfig.init(SolrConfig.java:89)
at org.apache.solr.util.TestHarness.createConfig(TestHarness.java:82)
 ... 21 more

It seems that the source folders list is not complete. I probably need to
add example folder into source folders list. That is fine but makes me think
if solr tests are structured in an intuitive way.

Regards,
Lukas

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Yonik Seeley yo...@lucidimagination.comwrote:

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Shalin Shekhar
 Mangarshalinman...@gmail.com wrote:
  To run a test from IDEA, set the start path (I don't remember the exact
  name) to src/test/test-files.

 Right, it's the working directory.
 I tend to run single tests via intellij for easy debugging and the
 full testsuite from ant.

 -Yonik
 http://www.lucidimagination.com



Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-04 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Grant,
Are you able to run single unit test from IDEA? How do you setup resource
folders for tests in this case?
Or do you run it manually from command line via ant?

Regards,
Lukas

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:

 I usually skip through the Wizard stuff as fast as possible and then just
 add the modules by hand, as IntelliJ thinks it is smart at this stuff when
 it really isn't.  For the core Solr, I create a Project Library dependency
 that has 3 JAR Directories as dependencies:
 ./lib
 example/lib
 example/lib/jsp-2.1

 YMMV.

 This is one place where Maven is _so much better_ than Ant.  Point IntelliJ
 at the pom.xml, and you have it all setup, including all the submodules,
 etc.


 On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Lukáš Vlček wrote:

  Hello,
 I noticed that several developers (Yonik, Grant, ... ?) are using
 IntelliJIDEA for Solr development. Is anybody willing to share his/her
 experience about how to setup and open Solr project in IntelliJIDEA? I am
 quite new to IntelliJIDEA and I would greatly appreciate any *how-to* or
 *for dummies* step-by-step tutorial. I tried to create a new project in
 IDEA
 from existing sources (fresh solr-trunk) and simply followed the wizard
 but
 this does not seem to be the best option (getting some circular
 dependencies
 and missing classpath issues).

 Note: I am using IntelliJIDEA 8.1.3

 Regards,
 Lukas


 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/

 Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids) using
 Solr/Lucene:
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/search




Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-03 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hello,
I noticed that several developers (Yonik, Grant, ... ?) are using
IntelliJIDEA for Solr development. Is anybody willing to share his/her
experience about how to setup and open Solr project in IntelliJIDEA? I am
quite new to IntelliJIDEA and I would greatly appreciate any *how-to* or
*for dummies* step-by-step tutorial. I tried to create a new project in IDEA
from existing sources (fresh solr-trunk) and simply followed the wizard but
this does not seem to be the best option (getting some circular dependencies
and missing classpath issues).

Note: I am using IntelliJIDEA 8.1.3

Regards,
Lukas


Re: Solr development with IntelliJIDEA - looking for advice

2009-09-03 Thread Lukáš Vlček
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:

 I usually skip through the Wizard stuff as fast as possible and then just
 add the modules by hand, as IntelliJ thinks it is smart at this stuff when
 it really isn't.  For the core Solr, I create a Project Library dependency
 that has 3 JAR Directories as dependencies:
 ./lib
 example/lib
 example/lib/jsp-2.1

 YMMV.

 This is one place where Maven is _so much better_ than Ant.  Point IntelliJ
 at the pom.xml, and you have it all setup, including all the submodules,
 etc.


I noticed that exactly this point has been discussed on the mail list some
time ago. Yes, Maven has its pros, however, I am fine with ant as long as
there is simple way how to go through this initial setup stage smoothly. I
will try to create simple solr-wiki page about this once I successfully
manage setting solr in IDEA.




 On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Lukáš Vlček wrote:

  Hello,
 I noticed that several developers (Yonik, Grant, ... ?) are using
 IntelliJIDEA for Solr development. Is anybody willing to share his/her
 experience about how to setup and open Solr project in IntelliJIDEA? I am
 quite new to IntelliJIDEA and I would greatly appreciate any *how-to* or
 *for dummies* step-by-step tutorial. I tried to create a new project in
 IDEA
 from existing sources (fresh solr-trunk) and simply followed the wizard
 but
 this does not seem to be the best option (getting some circular
 dependencies
 and missing classpath issues).

 Note: I am using IntelliJIDEA 8.1.3

 Regards,
 Lukas


 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/

 Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids) using
 Solr/Lucene:
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/search




Re: Idea: Add Documentum/Sharepoint/FileNet etc connectivity by emulating a Google Search Appliance's feed interface

2008-10-28 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,
I was thinking about using GSA Connector infrastructure with Nutch or Solr
some time ago because we were considering MS SharePoint search functionality
alternatives incuding GSA.

IMHO this is something that makes sense and I think that open source tools
can beat production alternatives in many ways but also I can see some
issues:

- first and the most difficult: try to talk to your management about
relpacing MS SharePoint or GSA with open source. This conversation can be
very difficult.

- GSA connectors are buggy... try listing through Google group forums (may
be this got better by now).

- I found it is very hard to rely on open source when it comes to parsing of
Microsoft documents in your net (word, excel, power point). It can handle
98% or 99% all your document but not 100% (correct me if I am wrong please).
It should be possible to include some MS document server into the loop but
this make the thing more complicated and requires non-open source
components.

Regards,
Lukas

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:21 PM, markharw00d [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


  It may be a good summer of code project if someone wanted to implement
 reading and writing data via the GSA feed interface...


 Do you mean the Google Summer Of Code initiative? I can't imagine Google
 would be keen to support a project whose goal was to provide an open-source,
 drop-in replacement for one of their commercial products :)


  I can't believe this idea received no replies!


 I guess it's just not an itch anyone here feels a particular need to
 scratch right now  - and that is always what is need to get the ball
 rolling.

 Maybe another avenue is to approach the commercial providers who have
 already contributed GSA connectors and ask them to consider writing a
 Solr-based consumer endpoint based on the GSA connector protocol. They may
 be commercially incentivised to do this and can then claim their products
 can hook up to either GSA or open-source Solr using the same interface.

 Cheers
 Mark






-- 
http://blog.lukas-vlcek.com/


Re: [jira] Updated: (SOLR-84) New Solr logo?

2008-10-11 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Andrzej, your ascii looks great ;-)
However, I tried something different, see:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12391946/apache_solr_burning.png

If I have a chance then I will try to create also version with sun beams
(based on my proposal
#1http://picasaweb.google.cz/lukas.vlcek/Solr#5235620801281945858 )
instead of flame.

Regards,
Lukas

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Andrzej Bialecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lukáš Vlček wrote:

 Hi,
 I am glad you like the draft#1 (and actually I think the second design is
 not totally lost, just wipe out the Apache letters and you get it). But
 the
 problem is that the draft#1 (as it is today) would not make it into the
 contest due to violation of the strongest requirement:

 The logo must incorporate the full project name: Apache Solr

 That is the assigment (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest).
 You can try to push the contest organizers, not me...


 How about a layout like this one (hopefully the ascii art makes it through
 email ...):

 ,--.  A p a c h e
 |__   \|/  +   ,-+
   | -  O  - |   |_/
 --'  /,|.\  +-- | \


 --
 Best regards,
 Andrzej Bialecki 
  ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _   __
 [__ || __|__/|__||\/|  Information Retrieval, Semantic Web
 ___|||__||  \|  ||  |  Embedded Unix, System Integration
 http://www.sigram.com  Contact: info at sigram dot com




-- 
http://blog.lukas-vlcek.com/


Re: [jira] Updated: (SOLR-84) New Solr logo?

2008-10-08 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,
I am glad you like the draft#1 (and actually I think the second design is
not totally lost, just wipe out the Apache letters and you get it). But the
problem is that the draft#1 (as it is today) would not make it into the
contest due to violation of the strongest requirement:

The logo must incorporate the full project name: Apache Solr

That is the assigment (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest).
You can try to push the contest organizers, not me...

If you were to ask me if I like the fact that the Apache word has to be
incorporated then I would tell you that I not happy about it (but this
should not mean that I think that one can not create a perfect design with
the Apache word). The problem I see with this is that there are no official
rules how the Apache word can be used in designs (which type of font, which
color...). Current mix of fonts in my second proposal is not ideal but I am
scared to use any exotic font on Apache because people are used to see
something like Arial Bold and in the end of the day having too exotic design
of Apache could be seen as an disadvantage.

Regards,
Lukas

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ् 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adding apache just adds to the no:of letters . So the logo was a bit
 big.  draft1 is cool
 --Noble

 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think what Noble meant to say is that the Apache lying below Solr does
 not
  looking very good. Perhaps we can shift Apache either left or upwards of
  Solr?
 
  On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Lukáš Vlček [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  It seems so, according to official requiremetns:
  http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest
 
  On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ् 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   do we really need the APACHE under the solr logo? the other one looks
  clean
  
   On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Lukas Vlcek (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
[
  
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-84?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
  ]
   
Lukas Vlcek updated SOLR-84:

   
   Attachment: solr_logo_it_is_burning.png
   
It is burning! ... Apache Solr Logo contest submition (based on my
   previous draft http://picasaweb.google.cz/lukas.vlcek/Solr)
   
New Solr logo?
--
   
Key: SOLR-84
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-84
Project: Solr
 Issue Type: Improvement
   Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
   Priority: Minor
Attachments: logo-grid.jpg, logo-solr-d.jpg,
 logo-solr-e.jpg,
   logo-solr-source-files-take2.zip, solr-84-source-files.zip,
 solr-f.jpg,
   solr-logo-20061214.jpg, solr-logo-20061218.JPG,
 solr-logo-20070124.JPG,
   solr-nick.gif, solr.jpg, solr.s1.jpg, solr.svg,
  solr_logo_it_is_burning.png,
   sslogo-solr-flare.jpg, sslogo-solr.jpg, sslogo-solr2-flare.jpg,
   sslogo-solr2.jpg, sslogo-solr3.jpg
   
   
Following up on SOLR-76, our trainee Nicolas Barbay (nicolas (put
 at
   here) sarraux-dessous.ch) has reworked his logo proposal to be more
  solar.
This can either be the start of a logo contest, or if people like
 it
  we
   could adopt it. The gradients can make it a bit hard to integrate, not
  sure
   if this is really a problem.
WDYT?
   
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Re: [jira] Updated: (SOLR-84) New Solr logo?

2008-10-07 Thread Lukáš Vlček
It seems so, according to official requiremetns:
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ् 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 do we really need the APACHE under the solr logo? the other one looks clean

 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Lukas Vlcek (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  [
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-84?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
 
  Lukas Vlcek updated SOLR-84:
  
 
 Attachment: solr_logo_it_is_burning.png
 
  It is burning! ... Apache Solr Logo contest submition (based on my
 previous draft http://picasaweb.google.cz/lukas.vlcek/Solr)
 
  New Solr logo?
  --
 
  Key: SOLR-84
  URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-84
  Project: Solr
   Issue Type: Improvement
 Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: logo-grid.jpg, logo-solr-d.jpg, logo-solr-e.jpg,
 logo-solr-source-files-take2.zip, solr-84-source-files.zip, solr-f.jpg,
 solr-logo-20061214.jpg, solr-logo-20061218.JPG, solr-logo-20070124.JPG,
 solr-nick.gif, solr.jpg, solr.s1.jpg, solr.svg, solr_logo_it_is_burning.png,
 sslogo-solr-flare.jpg, sslogo-solr.jpg, sslogo-solr2-flare.jpg,
 sslogo-solr2.jpg, sslogo-solr3.jpg
 
 
  Following up on SOLR-76, our trainee Nicolas Barbay (nicolas (put at
 here) sarraux-dessous.ch) has reworked his logo proposal to be more solar.
  This can either be the start of a logo contest, or if people like it we
 could adopt it. The gradients can make it a bit hard to integrate, not sure
 if this is really a problem.
  WDYT?
 
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Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-10-03 Thread Lukáš Vlček
I have found it, it is here: http://www.apache.org/images/ including vector
format.But you are right, speaking about Apache logo there is no consistency
in font and colors.

Lukas

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Chris Hostetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 : As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding
 the
 : font? I mean the current Apache Software Foundation is pretty known and
 : seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should
 not
 : be changed in the new Solr logo.

 There is no official policy on this.  Many Apache projects use a variety
 of fonts.

 : BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in
 vector
 : format?

 I don't know, if google doesn't turn one up, asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your
 best bet.



 -Hoss



Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-10-03 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,

After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there are
any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now...

1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain Apache word.2) As long as
Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some of
current submitions as well.

Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of logo
design from entering the voting pool?

Regards,
Lukas

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Lukáš Vlček [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have found it, it is here: http://www.apache.org/images/ including
 vector format.But you are right, speaking about Apache logo there is no
 consistency in font and colors.

 Lukas


 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Chris Hostetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 : As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding
 the
 : font? I mean the current Apache Software Foundation is pretty known
 and
 : seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should
 not
 : be changed in the new Solr logo.

 There is no official policy on this.  Many Apache projects use a variety
 of fonts.

 : BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in
 vector
 : format?

 I don't know, if google doesn't turn one up, asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
 your
 best bet.



 -Hoss




Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-10-03 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Well, may be the wiki page should be more specific about which criteria each
submition MUST follow and which are more relaxed.

2008/10/3 Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Lukáš Vlček wrote:

  Hi,

 After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there
 are
 any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now...


 correct -- none are valid submissions


  1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain Apache word.2) As long
 as
 Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some
 of
 current submitions as well.

 Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of
 logo
 design from entering the voting pool?


 correct -- we will only vote on the valid ones.  Before the 20th, we'll
 make it clear what ones will be voted on so that everyone who cares can make
 sure things are in order.

 ryan




Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-10-02 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,
I have to work on some personal matter. I won't be able to deliver this
week. Is it OK if I deliver this the next week? I think this should be still
accetable according to original 4 week schedule. (I am sorry about that...)

Lukas

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Lukáš Vlček [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Chris Hostetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:


 : May I have a question? What is PRC?

 Sorry: it's the Public Relations Comittee.  They don't have much of a web
 presence, so i can't include a handy URL explaining all about them, but
 they are the committee established by the ASF Board to oversee all things
 related to Apache PR (including branding and the policies for projects
 Logos [rant]which projects are expected to follow, but aren't posted
 anywhere for people to find[/rant].)

 http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#other


 OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular
 constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You
 mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there any
 other requirements like this?



 : (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to

 no problem, we're all just voluneering on this afterall -- the question is
 do you (as a graphic artist) think 4 weeks is enough time to see some
 really good, creative designs come in?

 -Hoss


 4 weeks sounds good. I will deliver more stuff by the end of this week.
 (Wow! did I say this publicly?)

 Lukas



Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-10-02 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,
As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding the
font? I mean the current Apache Software Foundation is pretty known and
seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should not
be changed in the new Solr logo.

BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in vector
format?

Any comments on this?

Regards,
Lukas

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Chris Hostetter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 : OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular
 : constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You
 : mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there
 any
 : other requirements like this?

 all of the guidelines and requirements they've outlined are on our wiki
 page...

http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest



 -Hoss




Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-09-30 Thread Lukáš Vlček
Hi,

May I have a question? What is PRC?
(And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to
[blahblahblah]*)

[]* substitute traditional lamer talk

Lukas

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Chris Hostetter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 : Ok, based on what little feedback I've gotten from the PRC this is about
 : as good as I can come up with at this point.  What do people think of
 this
 : as it is?  what do people think of the timeline?
 :
 :   http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest

 Hmmm... no feedback in the last 3 days.  Not sure what to make of that.

 My own thought process the last few days has ben that the deadline as
 listed (October 28th, 2008) is too rushed ... particularly considering
 none of the Logo's currently submitted meet the criteria required by the
 PRC (that it contain the word Apache).  It would be nice to unveil the
 new logo at ApacheCon -- but it would also be nice to use ApacheCon to
 drum up buzz about the contest and encourage more submissions.

thoughts?






 -Hoss




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Re: LogoContest Process Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of LogoContest by HossMan

2008-09-30 Thread Lukáš Vlček
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Chris Hostetter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 : May I have a question? What is PRC?

 Sorry: it's the Public Relations Comittee.  They don't have much of a web
 presence, so i can't include a handy URL explaining all about them, but
 they are the committee established by the ASF Board to oversee all things
 related to Apache PR (including branding and the policies for projects
 Logos [rant]which projects are expected to follow, but aren't posted
 anywhere for people to find[/rant].)

 http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#other


OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular
constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You
mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there any
other requirements like this?



 : (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to

 no problem, we're all just voluneering on this afterall -- the question is
 do you (as a graphic artist) think 4 weeks is enough time to see some
 really good, creative designs come in?

 -Hoss


4 weeks sounds good. I will deliver more stuff by the end of this week.
(Wow! did I say this publicly?)

Lukas