Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Thanks for posting this. -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: wrdrvr Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:47 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR I know that this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass on some additional information in blatant self promotion. We've just completed an IDOL to Solr migration for our e commerce site with approximately 40 Million items and anywhere between 200,000 to 300,000 searches per day. I am documenting some lessons learned some some product discriminators here: http://engineering2success.blogspot.com/ -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-tp3255377p4145247.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
I know that this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass on some additional information in blatant self promotion. We've just completed an IDOL to Solr migration for our e commerce site with approximately 40 Million items and anywhere between 200,000 to 300,000 searches per day. I am documenting some lessons learned some some product discriminators here: http://engineering2success.blogspot.com/ -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-tp3255377p4145247.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Hello Karsten. >From the doc you provided, it seems the two are totally different products. I thought a bit about it and it seems that the best aproach would be to: 1-refactor our app and add an abstraction layer that will call the IDOL ACI API. Make sure we have good tests in place. 2-implement a "solr-dialect" for the abstraction layer that we can switch on or off in config. Thanks. Arcadius. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, wrote: > Hi Arcadius, > > currently we have a migration project from verity k2 search server to solr. > I do not know IDOL, but autonomy bought verity before IDOL was released, so > possible it is comparable? > verity k2 works directly on xml-Files, in result the query syntax is a > little bit like xpath e.g. with "text1 zone2 zone1" instead of > contains(//zone1/zone2,'text1'). > > About verity query syntax: > > http://gregconely.getmyip.com/dl/OTG%20Software/5.30.087%20Suite%20%28SP3%29/Disc%204%20-%20Verity/Verity%20K2%20Server%205.5/doc/docs/pdf/VerityQueryLanguage.pdf > > Does IDOL work the same way? > > > Best regards > Karsten > > P.S. in Context: > > http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-td3255377.html > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:11:36 +0100 > > Von: Arcadius Ahouansou > > An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > Betreff: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR > > > Hello. > > > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL > > servers. > > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. > > > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a > > better > > job. > > > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from > > IDOL > > to SOLR. > > > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. > > > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have > > a > > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. > > > > -Is there lib available? > > > > -Any thought? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Arcadius. >
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Hi Arcadius, currently we have a migration project from verity k2 search server to solr. I do not know IDOL, but autonomy bought verity before IDOL was released, so possible it is comparable? verity k2 works directly on xml-Files, in result the query syntax is a little bit like xpath e.g. with "text1 zone2 zone1" instead of contains(//zone1/zone2,'text1'). About verity query syntax: http://gregconely.getmyip.com/dl/OTG%20Software/5.30.087%20Suite%20%28SP3%29/Disc%204%20-%20Verity/Verity%20K2%20Server%205.5/doc/docs/pdf/VerityQueryLanguage.pdf Does IDOL work the same way? Best regards Karsten P.S. in Context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Migration-from-Autonomy-IDOL-to-SOLR-td3255377.html Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:11:36 +0100 > Von: Arcadius Ahouansou > An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Betreff: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR > Hello. > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL > servers. > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a > better > job. > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from > IDOL > to SOLR. > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have > a > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. > > -Is there lib available? > > -Any thought? > > Thanks. > > Arcadius.
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Yea sorry for not helping much, but while I was comparing solr to verity i've found several docs specific for users having trouble migrating from verity to solr. They might not be api-specific but give some clue. 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou > Hi Alexei. > I had a quick look and it seems that Adobe provides their CF tag as a > wrapper around the verity/solr API, therefore, the application code is not > poluated with client specific API. > This makes app migration easier. > > Thanks for the input. > > Arcadius. > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexei Martchenko < > ale...@superdownloads.com.br> wrote: > > > This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion > > engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have > Solr > > bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although > > Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on > > people > > who migrated from verity from solr few years ago. > > > > Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads > to > > something. > > > > 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL > > > servers. > > > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. > > > > > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a > > better > > > job. > > > > > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from > > IDOL > > > to SOLR. > > > > > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. > > > > > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and > have > > a > > > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. > > > > > > -Is there lib available? > > > > > > -Any thought? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Arcadius. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads > > ale...@superdownloads.com.br | ale...@martchenko.com.br | (11) > > 5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533 > > >
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Hi Alexei. I had a quick look and it seems that Adobe provides their CF tag as a wrapper around the verity/solr API, therefore, the application code is not poluated with client specific API. This makes app migration easier. Thanks for the input. Arcadius. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexei Martchenko < ale...@superdownloads.com.br> wrote: > This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion > engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have Solr > bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although > Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on > people > who migrated from verity from solr few years ago. > > Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads to > something. > > 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou > > > Hello. > > > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL > > servers. > > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. > > > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a > better > > job. > > > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from > IDOL > > to SOLR. > > > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. > > > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have > a > > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. > > > > -Is there lib available? > > > > -Any thought? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Arcadius. > > > > > > -- > > *Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads > ale...@superdownloads.com.br | ale...@martchenko.com.br | (11) > 5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533 >
Re: Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
This might be a longshot but... Adobe is deprecating Verity in Coldfusion engine. Version 9 has both databases but I believe CF10 will only have Solr bundled. Idol is the-new-verity since autonomy acquired verity. Although Adobe wraps solr to work like old verity, there might be some info on people who migrated from verity from solr few years ago. Sorry for not helping much but sometimes these little information leads to something. 2011/8/15 Arcadius Ahouansou > Hello. > > We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL > servers. > Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. > > We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a better > job. > > So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from IDOL > to SOLR. > > I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. > > Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have a > kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. > > -Is there lib available? > > -Any thought? > > Thanks. > > Arcadius. > -- *Alexei Martchenko* | *CEO* | Superdownloads ale...@superdownloads.com.br | ale...@martchenko.com.br | (11) 5083.1018/5080.3535/5080.3533
Migration from Autonomy IDOL to SOLR
Hello. We have a couple of application running on half a dozen Autonomy IDOL servers. Currently, all feature we need are supported by Solr. We have done some internal testing and realized that SOLR would do a better job. So, we are investigation all possibilities for a smooth migration from IDOL to SOLR. I am looking for advice from people who went through something similar. Ideally, we would like to keep most of our legacy code unchanged and have a kind of query-translation-layer plugged into our app if possible. -Is there lib available? -Any thought? Thanks. Arcadius.
