Re: Evangelism
DollarDays.com is currently using it and we display the powered by logo as at least a gesture of giving back to the community. Ryan T. Grange, IT Manager DollarDays International, Inc. rgra...@dollardays.com (480)922-8155 x106 On 4/29/2010 11:10 AM, Daniel Baughman wrote: Hi I'm new to the list here, I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr projects? Thanks in advance, Dan B.
RE: Evangelism
ColdFusion 9 is now shipping with it, as well. Thanks everyone for the inputs. -Original Message- From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Grant Ingersoll Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:35 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Evangelism Hi Daniel, There are lots of sites running Solr ranging from very large to very small. Because it is open source, people aren't required to report, but there are several places where people have reported: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/PublicServers http://www.lucidimagination.com/developer/Community/Application-Showcase-Wik i You can also see a number of case studies at: http://www.lucidimagination.com/solutions/documents >From those lists, you'll see recognizable names like AT&T, StubHub, CNET, Digg, MTV/Viacom, The Motley Fool, Disney, Netflix, etc. Hope that helps, Grant On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > Hi I'm new to the list here, > > > > I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of > companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > > > > Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr > projects? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Dan B. > > > -- Grant Ingersoll http://www.lucidimagination.com/ Search the Lucene ecosystem using Solr/Lucene: http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
Re: Evangelism
Hi Daniel, There are lots of sites running Solr ranging from very large to very small. Because it is open source, people aren't required to report, but there are several places where people have reported: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/PublicServers http://www.lucidimagination.com/developer/Community/Application-Showcase-Wiki You can also see a number of case studies at: http://www.lucidimagination.com/solutions/documents From those lists, you'll see recognizable names like AT&T, StubHub, CNET, Digg, MTV/Viacom, The Motley Fool, Disney, Netflix, etc. Hope that helps, Grant On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > Hi I'm new to the list here, > > > > I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of > companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > > > > Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr > projects? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Dan B. > > > -- Grant Ingersoll http://www.lucidimagination.com/ Search the Lucene ecosystem using Solr/Lucene: http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
RE: Evangelism
Forgot the link. http://www.lucidimagination.com/Community/Marketplace/Application-Showca se-Wiki/Netflix -Original Message- From: Jason Chaffee [mailto:jchaf...@ebates.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:52 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: Evangelism Netflix search is built with Solr. That seems like a fairly big and recognizable company. -Original Message- From: Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:44 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Evangelism This is a Lucene story, but may well apply... By the time I'd sent a request for assistance to the vendor of one of our search tools and received the reply "you didn't give us the right license number", I'd found Lucene, indexed part of my corpus and run successful searches against it. And had answers provided to me from the users list. Paying for support provides, I believe, a false sense of security. Once you sign up, you're at the mercy of the vendor for many things, among them: 1> releases are far apart 2> if the company gets purchased, all sorts of interesting things happen. Witness Microsoft buying FAST recently, then announcing they were not doing any more development on *nix platforms. 3> If the company does go out of business, you are stuck with binary code you can't compile/run/fix understand. 4> You are at the mercy of the next release for "really gotta have it now" changes. Unless you're willing to pay...er...a considerable sum to get a special fix, which may not even be an option. That said, not all open source products are great, I just happen to think that SOLR/Lucene is. Add to that that problems that are found are often fixed in a day or two, a record that no commercial package I've ever used has matched. Here's one technique you can use to sell it to management. Get a pilot up and running in, oh, say three days (ok, take a week). Try the same thing with commercial package X. Do not, under any circumstances, be satisfied with the powerpoint presentation from a commercial vendor . Require working code. Then evaluate ... Best Erick On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Nagelberg, Kallin < knagelb...@globeandmail.com> wrote: > I had a very hard time selling Solr to business folks. Most are of the mind > that if you're not paying for something it can't be any good. That might > also be why they refrain from posting 'powered by solr' on their website, as > if it might show them to be cheap. They are also fearful of lack of support > should you get hit by a bus. This might be remedied by recommending > professional services from a company such as lucid imagination. > > I think your best bet is to create a working demo with your data and show > them the performance. > > Cheers, > -Kallin Nagelberg > > > > -Original Message- > From: Israel Ekpo [mailto:israele...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Evangelism > > Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > > > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > > > This should convince you. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman >wrote: > > > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list > of > >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful > solr > >> projects? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan B. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > > > > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ >
RE: Evangelism
Netflix search is built with Solr. That seems like a fairly big and recognizable company. -Original Message- From: Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:44 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Evangelism This is a Lucene story, but may well apply... By the time I'd sent a request for assistance to the vendor of one of our search tools and received the reply "you didn't give us the right license number", I'd found Lucene, indexed part of my corpus and run successful searches against it. And had answers provided to me from the users list. Paying for support provides, I believe, a false sense of security. Once you sign up, you're at the mercy of the vendor for many things, among them: 1> releases are far apart 2> if the company gets purchased, all sorts of interesting things happen. Witness Microsoft buying FAST recently, then announcing they were not doing any more development on *nix platforms. 3> If the company does go out of business, you are stuck with binary code you can't compile/run/fix understand. 4> You are at the mercy of the next release for "really gotta have it now" changes. Unless you're willing to pay...er...a considerable sum to get a special fix, which may not even be an option. That said, not all open source products are great, I just happen to think that SOLR/Lucene is. Add to that that problems that are found are often fixed in a day or two, a record that no commercial package I've ever used has matched. Here's one technique you can use to sell it to management. Get a pilot up and running in, oh, say three days (ok, take a week). Try the same thing with commercial package X. Do not, under any circumstances, be satisfied with the powerpoint presentation from a commercial vendor . Require working code. Then evaluate ... Best Erick On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Nagelberg, Kallin < knagelb...@globeandmail.com> wrote: > I had a very hard time selling Solr to business folks. Most are of the mind > that if you're not paying for something it can't be any good. That might > also be why they refrain from posting 'powered by solr' on their website, as > if it might show them to be cheap. They are also fearful of lack of support > should you get hit by a bus. This might be remedied by recommending > professional services from a company such as lucid imagination. > > I think your best bet is to create a working demo with your data and show > them the performance. > > Cheers, > -Kallin Nagelberg > > > > -Original Message- > From: Israel Ekpo [mailto:israele...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Evangelism > > Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > > > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > > > This should convince you. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman >wrote: > > > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list > of > >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful > solr > >> projects? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan B. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > > > > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ >
Re: Evangelism
This is a Lucene story, but may well apply... By the time I'd sent a request for assistance to the vendor of one of our search tools and received the reply "you didn't give us the right license number", I'd found Lucene, indexed part of my corpus and run successful searches against it. And had answers provided to me from the users list. Paying for support provides, I believe, a false sense of security. Once you sign up, you're at the mercy of the vendor for many things, among them: 1> releases are far apart 2> if the company gets purchased, all sorts of interesting things happen. Witness Microsoft buying FAST recently, then announcing they were not doing any more development on *nix platforms. 3> If the company does go out of business, you are stuck with binary code you can't compile/run/fix understand. 4> You are at the mercy of the next release for "really gotta have it now" changes. Unless you're willing to pay...er...a considerable sum to get a special fix, which may not even be an option. That said, not all open source products are great, I just happen to think that SOLR/Lucene is. Add to that that problems that are found are often fixed in a day or two, a record that no commercial package I've ever used has matched. Here's one technique you can use to sell it to management. Get a pilot up and running in, oh, say three days (ok, take a week). Try the same thing with commercial package X. Do not, under any circumstances, be satisfied with the powerpoint presentation from a commercial vendor . Require working code. Then evaluate ... Best Erick On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Nagelberg, Kallin < knagelb...@globeandmail.com> wrote: > I had a very hard time selling Solr to business folks. Most are of the mind > that if you're not paying for something it can't be any good. That might > also be why they refrain from posting 'powered by solr' on their website, as > if it might show them to be cheap. They are also fearful of lack of support > should you get hit by a bus. This might be remedied by recommending > professional services from a company such as lucid imagination. > > I think your best bet is to create a working demo with your data and show > them the performance. > > Cheers, > -Kallin Nagelberg > > > > -Original Message- > From: Israel Ekpo [mailto:israele...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Evangelism > > Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > > > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > > > This should convince you. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman >wrote: > > > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list > of > >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful > solr > >> projects? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan B. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > > > > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ >
Re: Evangelism
A lot of high performing websites use MySQL, Oracle and Microsoft SQL Server for data storage and other RDBMS needs without necessarily putting the "powered by" logo on the sites. If you need the certified version of Apache Solr, you can contact Lucid Imagination. Just like MySQL, Apache Solr and Apache Lucene also have commercial backing (from Lucid Imagination) if you choose to go that route. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Nagelberg, Kallin < knagelb...@globeandmail.com> wrote: > I had a very hard time selling Solr to business folks. Most are of the mind > that if you're not paying for something it can't be any good. That might > also be why they refrain from posting 'powered by solr' on their website, as > if it might show them to be cheap. They are also fearful of lack of support > should you get hit by a bus. This might be remedied by recommending > professional services from a company such as lucid imagination. > > I think your best bet is to create a working demo with your data and show > them the performance. > > Cheers, > -Kallin Nagelberg > > > > -Original Message- > From: Israel Ekpo [mailto:israele...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Evangelism > > Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > > > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > > > This should convince you. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman >wrote: > > > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list > of > >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > >> > >> > >> > >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful > solr > >> projects? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan B. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > > > > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > -- "Good Enough" is not good enough. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. http://www.israelekpo.com/
RE: Evangelism
I had a very hard time selling Solr to business folks. Most are of the mind that if you're not paying for something it can't be any good. That might also be why they refrain from posting 'powered by solr' on their website, as if it might show them to be cheap. They are also fearful of lack of support should you get hit by a bus. This might be remedied by recommending professional services from a company such as lucid imagination. I think your best bet is to create a working demo with your data and show them the performance. Cheers, -Kallin Nagelberg -Original Message- From: Israel Ekpo [mailto:israele...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Evangelism Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > This should convince you. > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, >> >> >> >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr >> projects? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Dan B. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > -- "Good Enough" is not good enough. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. http://www.israelekpo.com/
Re: Evangelism
Their main search page has the "Powered by Solr" logo http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/ On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote: > Checkout Lucid Imagination > > http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search > > This should convince you. > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > >> Hi I'm new to the list here, >> >> >> >> I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of >> companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr >> projects? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Dan B. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > "Good Enough" is not good enough. > To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. > Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. > http://www.israelekpo.com/ > -- "Good Enough" is not good enough. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. http://www.israelekpo.com/
Re: Evangelism
Checkout Lucid Imagination http://www.lucidimagination.com/About-Search This should convince you. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > Hi I'm new to the list here, > > > > I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of > companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > > > > Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr > projects? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Dan B. > > > > -- "Good Enough" is not good enough. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. http://www.israelekpo.com/
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A very abbreviated list of sites using Apache Solr + Drupal here: http://drupal.org/node/447564 -Peter On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Baughman wrote: > Hi I'm new to the list here, > > > > I'd like to steer someone in the direction of Solr, and I see the list of > companies using solr, but none have a "power by solr" logo or anything. > > > > Does anyone have any great links with evidence to majorly successful solr > projects? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Dan B. > > > > -- Peter M. Wolanin, Ph.D. Momentum Specialist, Acquia. Inc. peter.wola...@acquia.com
