Re: Testing the limits of non-Java Solr
You've hit it right on the head... if you can use the standard analyzers/filters/etc, you're in good shape. You have to process the output (xml, json, whatever) as Otis says, but that's in whatever language your app server uses. But when was the last time you were motivated to write a blog post like just used the package and it all worked :). Perhaps one of the things you're seeing is that people are motivated to write about the nifty parts of what they do... Coupled with the fact that people write to the users' list exactly because they can't make the standard stuff do their particular task. It's nice to know you *can* extend it with plugins for those gnarly situations though. So I say go for it! Best Erick On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Jack Repenning jrepenn...@collab.net wrote: What's the probability that I can build a non-trivial Solr app without writing any Java? I've been planning to use Solr, Lucene, and existing plug-ins, and sort of hoping not to write any Java (the app itself is Ruby / Rails). The dox (such as http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ) seem encouraging. [I *can* write Java, but my planning's all been no Java.] I'm just beginning the design work in earnest, and I suddenly notice that it seems every mail thread, blog, or example starts out Java-free, but somehow ends up involving Java code. I'm not sure I yet understand all these snippets; conceivably some of the Java I see could just as easily be written in another language, but it makes me wonder. Is it realistic to plan a sizable Solr application without some Java programming? I know, I know, I know: everything depends on the details. I'd be interested even in anecdotes: has anyone ever achieved this before? Also, what are the clues I should look for that I need to step into the Java realm? I understand, for example, that it's possible to write filters and tokenizers to do stuff not available in any standard one; in this case, the clue would be I can't find what I want in the standard list, I guess. Are there other things I should look for? -==- Jack Repenning Technologist Codesion Business Unit CollabNet, Inc. 8000 Marina Boulevard, Suite 600 Brisbane, California 94005 office: +1 650.228.2562 twitter: http://twitter.com/jrep
Testing the limits of non-Java Solr
What's the probability that I can build a non-trivial Solr app without writing any Java? I've been planning to use Solr, Lucene, and existing plug-ins, and sort of hoping not to write any Java (the app itself is Ruby / Rails). The dox (such as http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ) seem encouraging. [I *can* write Java, but my planning's all been no Java.] I'm just beginning the design work in earnest, and I suddenly notice that it seems every mail thread, blog, or example starts out Java-free, but somehow ends up involving Java code. I'm not sure I yet understand all these snippets; conceivably some of the Java I see could just as easily be written in another language, but it makes me wonder. Is it realistic to plan a sizable Solr application without some Java programming? I know, I know, I know: everything depends on the details. I'd be interested even in anecdotes: has anyone ever achieved this before? Also, what are the clues I should look for that I need to step into the Java realm? I understand, for example, that it's possible to write filters and tokenizers to do stuff not available in any standard one; in this case, the clue would be I can't find what I want in the standard list, I guess. Are there other things I should look for? -==- Jack Repenning Technologist Codesion Business Unit CollabNet, Inc. 8000 Marina Boulevard, Suite 600 Brisbane, California 94005 office: +1 650.228.2562 twitter: http://twitter.com/jrep PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Testing the limits of non-Java Solr
Short answer: Yes, you can deploy a Solr cluster and write an application that talks to it without writing any Java (but it may be PHP or Python or unless that application is you typing telnet my-solr-server 8983 ) Otis Sematext :: http://sematext.com/ :: Solr - Lucene - Nutch Lucene ecosystem search :: http://search-lucene.com/ - Original Message From: Jack Repenning jrepenn...@collab.net To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 6:28:31 PM Subject: Testing the limits of non-Java Solr What's the probability that I can build a non-trivial Solr app without writing any Java? I've been planning to use Solr, Lucene, and existing plug-ins, and sort of hoping not to write any Java (the app itself is Ruby / Rails). The dox (such as http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ) seem encouraging. [I *can* write Java, but my planning's all been no Java.] I'm just beginning the design work in earnest, and I suddenly notice that it seems every mail thread, blog, or example starts out Java-free, but somehow ends up involving Java code. I'm not sure I yet understand all these snippets; conceivably some of the Java I see could just as easily be written in another language, but it makes me wonder. Is it realistic to plan a sizable Solr application without some Java programming? I know, I know, I know: everything depends on the details. I'd be interested even in anecdotes: has anyone ever achieved this before? Also, what are the clues I should look for that I need to step into the Java realm? I understand, for example, that it's possible to write filters and tokenizers to do stuff not available in any standard one; in this case, the clue would be I can't find what I want in the standard list, I guess. Are there other things I should look for? -==- Jack Repenning Technologist Codesion Business Unit CollabNet, Inc. 8000 Marina Boulevard, Suite 600 Brisbane, California 94005 office: +1 650.228.2562 twitter: http://twitter.com/jrep
Re: Testing the limits of non-Java Solr
Yeah you don't need Java to use Solr. PHP, Curl, Python, HTTP Request APIs all work fine. The purpose of Solr is to wrap Lucene into a REST-like API that anyone can call using HTTP. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Otis Gospodnetic otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com wrote: Short answer: Yes, you can deploy a Solr cluster and write an application that talks to it without writing any Java (but it may be PHP or Python or unless that application is you typing telnet my-solr-server 8983 ) Otis Sematext :: http://sematext.com/ :: Solr - Lucene - Nutch Lucene ecosystem search :: http://search-lucene.com/ - Original Message From: Jack Repenning jrepenn...@collab.net To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 6:28:31 PM Subject: Testing the limits of non-Java Solr What's the probability that I can build a non-trivial Solr app without writing any Java? I've been planning to use Solr, Lucene, and existing plug-ins, and sort of hoping not to write any Java (the app itself is Ruby / Rails). The dox (such as http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ) seem encouraging. [I *can* write Java, but my planning's all been no Java.] I'm just beginning the design work in earnest, and I suddenly notice that it seems every mail thread, blog, or example starts out Java-free, but somehow ends up involving Java code. I'm not sure I yet understand all these snippets; conceivably some of the Java I see could just as easily be written in another language, but it makes me wonder. Is it realistic to plan a sizable Solr application without some Java programming? I know, I know, I know: everything depends on the details. I'd be interested even in anecdotes: has anyone ever achieved this before? Also, what are the clues I should look for that I need to step into the Java realm? I understand, for example, that it's possible to write filters and tokenizers to do stuff not available in any standard one; in this case, the clue would be I can't find what I want in the standard list, I guess. Are there other things I should look for? -==- Jack Repenning Technologist Codesion Business Unit CollabNet, Inc. 8000 Marina Boulevard, Suite 600 Brisbane, California 94005 office: +1 650.228.2562 twitter: http://twitter.com/jrep
