Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
We run Jetty 8 and 9 with Solr. No issues I can think of. We use Jetty interally anyways, and it seemed to be the most common container out there for Solr (from reading this mailinglist, articles, etc), so that made me feel a bit better if I needed advice or help from the community - not to say there isn't a lot of Tomcat + Solr knowledge on the list. Performance-wise, years back I heard Jetty was the faster/lighter-on-RAM container in regards to Tomcat, but recent benchmarks I've seen out there seem to indicate Tomcat is on par or possibly faster now, although I believe while using more RAM. Don't quote me here. I'd love if someone could do a Solr-specific benchmark. Another neat, but sort of unimportant tidbit is Google App Engine went with Jetty, which to me indicates the Jetty project isn't going away anytime soon. Who knows, Google may even submit back valuable improvements to the project. Live in hope! Tim On 11/07/13 08:14 PM, Saikat Kanjilal wrote: One last thing, no issues with jetty. The issues we did have was actually running separate zookeeper clusters. From: sxk1...@hotmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:13:27 -0700 Separate Zookeeper. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:27:18 -0700 Subject: Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud From: docbook@gmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilalsxk1...@hotmail.comwrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqibdocbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
Of course you may have some reasons to use Tomcat or anything else (i.e. your stuff may have more experience at Tomcat etc.) However developers generally runs Jetty because it is default for Solr and I should point that Solr unit tests run against jetty (in fact, a specific version of Jetty) and well tested (if you search in mail list you can find some conversations about it). If you follow Solr developer list you may realize using a well tested container or not. For example: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4716 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4584?focusedCommentId=13625276page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13625276can show that there maybe some bugs for non Jetty containers and if you choose any other container except for Jetty you can hit one of them. If you want to look at the comparison of Jetty vs. Tomcat I suggest you look at here: http://www.openlogic.com/wazi/bid/257366/Power-Java-based-web-apps-with-Jetty-application-server and here: http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/08/google-chose-jetty 2013/7/13 Tim Vaillancourt t...@elementspace.com We run Jetty 8 and 9 with Solr. No issues I can think of. We use Jetty interally anyways, and it seemed to be the most common container out there for Solr (from reading this mailinglist, articles, etc), so that made me feel a bit better if I needed advice or help from the community - not to say there isn't a lot of Tomcat + Solr knowledge on the list. Performance-wise, years back I heard Jetty was the faster/lighter-on-RAM container in regards to Tomcat, but recent benchmarks I've seen out there seem to indicate Tomcat is on par or possibly faster now, although I believe while using more RAM. Don't quote me here. I'd love if someone could do a Solr-specific benchmark. Another neat, but sort of unimportant tidbit is Google App Engine went with Jetty, which to me indicates the Jetty project isn't going away anytime soon. Who knows, Google may even submit back valuable improvements to the project. Live in hope! Tim On 11/07/13 08:14 PM, Saikat Kanjilal wrote: One last thing, no issues with jetty. The issues we did have was actually running separate zookeeper clusters. From: sxk1...@hotmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:13:27 -0700 Separate Zookeeper. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:27:18 -0700 Subject: Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud From: docbook@gmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilalsxk1...@hotmail.com wrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqibdocbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
Very good point, Furkan. The unit tests being ran against Jetty is another very good reason to feel safer on Jetty, IMHO. I'm assuming the SolrCloud ChaosMonkey tests are ran against Jetty as well? Tim On 13/07/13 02:46 PM, Furkan KAMACI wrote: Of course you may have some reasons to use Tomcat or anything else (i.e. your stuff may have more experience at Tomcat etc.) However developers generally runs Jetty because it is default for Solr and I should point that Solr unit tests run against jetty (in fact, a specific version of Jetty) and well tested (if you search in mail list you can find some conversations about it). If you follow Solr developer list you may realize using a well tested container or not. For example: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4716 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4584?focusedCommentId=13625276page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13625276can show that there maybe some bugs for non Jetty containers and if you choose any other container except for Jetty you can hit one of them. If you want to look at the comparison of Jetty vs. Tomcat I suggest you look at here: http://www.openlogic.com/wazi/bid/257366/Power-Java-based-web-apps-with-Jetty-application-server and here: http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/08/google-chose-jetty 2013/7/13 Tim Vaillancourtt...@elementspace.com We run Jetty 8 and 9 with Solr. No issues I can think of. We use Jetty interally anyways, and it seemed to be the most common container out there for Solr (from reading this mailinglist, articles, etc), so that made me feel a bit better if I needed advice or help from the community - not to say there isn't a lot of Tomcat + Solr knowledge on the list. Performance-wise, years back I heard Jetty was the faster/lighter-on-RAM container in regards to Tomcat, but recent benchmarks I've seen out there seem to indicate Tomcat is on par or possibly faster now, although I believe while using more RAM. Don't quote me here. I'd love if someone could do a Solr-specific benchmark. Another neat, but sort of unimportant tidbit is Google App Engine went with Jetty, which to me indicates the Jetty project isn't going away anytime soon. Who knows, Google may even submit back valuable improvements to the project. Live in hope! Tim On 11/07/13 08:14 PM, Saikat Kanjilal wrote: One last thing, no issues with jetty. The issues we did have was actually running separate zookeeper clusters. From: sxk1...@hotmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:13:27 -0700 Separate Zookeeper. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:27:18 -0700 Subject: Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud From: docbook@gmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilalsxk1...@hotmail.com wrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqibdocbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
On 7/13/2013 3:55 PM, Tim Vaillancourt wrote: Very good point, Furkan. The unit tests being ran against Jetty is another very good reason to feel safer on Jetty, IMHO. I'm assuming the SolrCloud ChaosMonkey tests are ran against Jetty as well? All Solr unit tests either access the underlying API directly or start a full instance of Solr under Jetty. A typical SolrCloud test starts up multiple Jetty threads. I've looked at a couple of the ChaosMonkey tests, and they do mention jetty. Thanks, Shawn
preferred container for running SolrCloud
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Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.comwrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
On production, I'd highly recommend you to run Zk separately as that'd give you, among other things, the liberty of shutting down a SolrCloud instance. I haven't heard or seen any SolrCloud issues while running it on jetty. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.com wrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ? -- Anshum Gupta http://www.anshumgupta.net
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
Embedded Zookeeper is only for dev. Production needs to run a ZK cluster. --wunder On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Ali, Saqib wrote: With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.comwrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
Thanks Walter. And the container.. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.orgwrote: Embedded Zookeeper is only for dev. Production needs to run a ZK cluster. --wunder On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Ali, Saqib wrote: With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.com wrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud
We use Tomcat for everything. It might not be the best, but it is what our Ops group is used to. wunder On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Ali, Saqib wrote: Thanks Walter. And the container.. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.orgwrote: Embedded Zookeeper is only for dev. Production needs to run a ZK cluster. --wunder On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Ali, Saqib wrote: With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.com wrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ? -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org
RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud
Separate Zookeeper. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:27:18 -0700 Subject: Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud From: docbook@gmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.comwrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud
One last thing, no issues with jetty. The issues we did have was actually running separate zookeeper clusters. From: sxk1...@hotmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: preferred container for running SolrCloud Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:13:27 -0700 Separate Zookeeper. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:27:18 -0700 Subject: Re: preferred container for running SolrCloud From: docbook@gmail.com To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org With the embedded Zookeeper or separate Zookeeper? Also have run into any issues with running SolrCloud on jetty? On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Saikat Kanjilal sxk1...@hotmail.comwrote: We're running under jetty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Ali, Saqib docbook@gmail.com wrote: 1) Jboss 2) Jetty 3) Tomcat 4) Other.. ?
