[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Bob Caputo]

I am a long-time member of NFPA 13 and 25 committees and also an instructor
for NFPA so I am very familiar with their processes and direction.



I know you are a long way from the USA, but membership in our organization
is inexpensive and gives you access to our technical services department
for support.  We sit on over 30 standards and have 5 FPE’s on staff.



Many of our training programs are available remotely as well.  If you visit
our website:   www.firesprinkler.org you may find our association useful as
well.



Best regards,



Bob





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Thanks Bob,



My team has asked NFPA and get their guidance same with your email, thanks
again.























*Good day  ,Thank you for contacting National Fire Protection Association
(NFPA).NFPA no longer offers PDF's for the code documents. The overwhelming
input from our stakeholders has been for digital offerings versus simply a
code or a static version of a code. NFPA has looked extensively at various
formats and determined that not only is a PDF not a true digital offering,
but the PDF format also lacks sufficient security and copyright protection
and cannot be updated with new information in an effective manner.   As
part of our transition to a new digital way to deliver information, NFPA
will no longer offer access to PDFs for new editions of codes and
standards, including new titles available through the National Fire Codes®
Subscription Service (NFCSS™) effective with the 2020 releases.  Titles
previously published in PDF format will remain in-market and will be
available in the digital access version of NFCSS.   We now offer a service
with both online and offline access to NFPA codes/standards, NFPA
LiNK®.NFPA LiNK® delivers information beyond just the text of codes and
standards; it offers context and insights, as well as features that our
stakeholders find useful, including the ability to search, bookmark, add
notes, and collaborate.  Please see nfpa.org/link
<https://nfpa.org/link> to learn more.  We offer a 14 day free trial that I
encourage you to take advantage of.You can also see the Evolution of
Information Delivery <https://www.nfpa.org/formatoptions> section of our
website for more details on this transition.Have a safe day.Sincerely,NFPA
Customer Support*



Regards,

Le Vu Phong

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Actually, NFPA LINK will provide you with access to every NFPA standard,
both on line and you can download individual codes or standards to your
device for use off line.  These versions include commentary from the
handbooks in many cases and are searchable. Once you get used to it, its
better than having pdf’s and they offer a free trial to try it before you
buy it.



LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies.





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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[John Denhardt]

Agree - I used to enjoy PDFs.  I cringed when I heard they were leaving but
I understand why NFPA was discontinuing them.

We switched to Link and I like the features and access.  NFPA has done a
great job with Link.  Try it out, with a free trial and I feel you will not
be disappointed.

Thanks,
John

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> both on line and you can download individual codes or standards to your
> device for use off line.  These versions include commentary from the
> handbooks in many cases and are searchable. Once you get used to it, its
> better than having pdf’s and they offer a free trial to try it before you
> buy it.
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> LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies.
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> *Bob Caputo, CFPS*
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> *American Fire Sprinkler Association*
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> *Advanced Sprinkler Hydraulic Calculations*
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Phong - Indochine Engineering]

Thanks Bob,

My team has asked NFPA and get their guidance same with your email, thanks 
again.

Good day  ,

Thank you for contacting National Fire Protection Association (NFPA).

NFPA no longer offers PDF's for the code documents. The overwhelming input from 
our stakeholders has been for digital offerings versus simply a code or a 
static version of a code. NFPA has looked extensively at various formats and 
determined that not only is a PDF not a true digital offering, but the PDF 
format also lacks sufficient security and copyright protection and cannot be 
updated with new information in an effective manner.

As part of our transition to a new digital way to deliver information, NFPA 
will no longer offer access to PDFs for new editions of codes and standards, 
including new titles available through the National Fire Codes® Subscription 
Service (NFCSS™) effective with the 2020 releases.  Titles previously published 
in PDF format will remain in-market and will be available in the digital access 
version of NFCSS.

We now offer a service with both online and offline access to NFPA 
codes/standards, NFPA LiNK®.

NFPA LiNK® delivers information beyond just the text of codes and standards; it 
offers context and insights, as well as features that our stakeholders find 
useful, including the ability to search, bookmark, add notes, and collaborate.  
Please see nfpa.org/link<https://nfpa.org/link> to learn more.  We offer a 14 
day free trial that I encourage you to take advantage of.

You can also see the Evolution of Information 
Delivery<https://www.nfpa.org/formatoptions> section of our website for more 
details on this transition.




Have a safe day.

Sincerely,
NFPA Customer Support


Regards,
Le Vu Phong
Mobile:  +84 (0) 902 363 525

From: Bob Caputo 
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 8:24 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

Actually, NFPA LINK will provide you with access to every NFPA standard, both 
on line and you can download individual codes or standards to your device for 
use off line.  These versions include commentary from the handbooks in many 
cases and are searchable. Once you get used to it, its better than having pdf’s 
and they offer a free trial to try it before you buy it.

LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies.


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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Bob Caputo]

Actually, NFPA LINK will provide you with access to every NFPA standard,
both on line and you can download individual codes or standards to your
device for use off line.  These versions include commentary from the
handbooks in many cases and are searchable. Once you get used to it, its
better than having pdf’s and they offer a free trial to try it before you
buy it.



LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies.





*Bob Caputo, CFPS*

*President*

*American Fire Sprinkler Association*

c: 760-908-7753

p:

214-349-5965 ext124

w:

firesprinkler.org




   



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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Steve Leyton]

Correct – since 2020 editions, NFPA is only selling hard copies again.


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From: Derrek Crigler [mailto:der...@adfiresprinklers.com]
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 7:05 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

You can only buy a hard copy or use NFPA link. No more PDF.
Thank you,

Derrek Crigler
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858-277-3473


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mailto:br...@proudline.ca>> wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 7:57 PM Phong - Indochine Engineering 
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Please can you advise where I can buy the pdf file online. Many thanks.

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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Derrek Crigler]

You can only buy a hard copy or use NFPA link. No more PDF.

Thank you,

Derrek Crigler
A Fire Sprinklers
858-277-3473

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[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

[Brett Peters]

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On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 7:57 PM Phong - Indochine Engineering <
ph...@indoeng.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please can you advise where I can buy the pdf file online. Many thanks.
>
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>
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>
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