Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-08 Thread jose isaias cabrera 

"big stone" wrote...

hi Jose,


The SQL request with a  "in()" that is improved by 5x in the latest beta
is of form  :

select * from a , b where a.field1 in (b.column1, b.column2, b.column3,
b.column4, 'fixed value')


Hi Big Stone,

This is what I am running with an ATTACHed DB as client...

BEGIN;
 INSERT OR REPLACE INTO LSOpenProjects
   SELECT * FROM client.LSOpenProjects as A
 WHERE id IN
 (
   SELECT id from LSOpenProjects
 WHERE login != 'user1' AND Date != A.Date
 );
END;

It has not shown any speed improvement, but maybe the slowdown is caused by 
the INSERT.



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-08 Thread James K. Lowden 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:56:24 -0400
Richard Hipp  wrote:

> > http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/vocabulary/backward-backwards.htm
> >
> > Two countries divided by a common tongue.
> >
> Except, I speak Southern English, not British English. And I can
> promise you that we southerners prefer to add the "s" to the end of
> "backwards". I'm not sure PerfectYourEnglish necessarily has all
> their facts straight.

Oh, I'm sure you're right on both counts.  You know what form you
prefer, and jrandomsite.com shouldn't be assumed to be an authority.
(When it comes to English usage in particular, there's a lot more
pretended and presumptive authority on the web than actual.)  I was
just pointing out that the with-or-without-s is question (at least)
regional, and extends to words other than backwards.  

You may recognize the lines

Kiss today goodbye
And point me toward tomorrow

If ever you happen to be practicing that in a chorus, don't be too
surprised if it takes more than a few tries before everyone understands
there's no "s" (as written) in second line.  You might could spend
the better part of an hour on it.  Don't ask me how I know.  

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-08 Thread big stone 
hi Jose,


The SQL request with a  "in()" that is improved by 5x in the latest beta
is of form  :

select * from a , b where a.field1 in (b.column1, b.column2, b.column3,
b.column4, 'fixed value')
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-07 Thread Eric Sink 
FWIW, the Zumero test suite is fairly abusive and it passes all test cases
with 3.8.6 beta.

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On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM, E.Pasma  wrote:
>
> > I have a case where a primary key index is no longer used where it was
> > used before.
> >
>
> Thank you for the test case!
>
> This problem should now be addressed on trunk and in the pre-release
> snapshots.  Please retry using the latest and let me know if you continue
> to see problems or if you see anything new.  Thanks.
>
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-07 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM, E.Pasma  wrote:

> I have a case where a primary key index is no longer used where it was
> used before.
>

Thank you for the test case!

This problem should now be addressed on trunk and in the pre-release
snapshots.  Please retry using the latest and let me know if you continue
to see problems or if you see anything new.  Thanks.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-07 Thread Will Parsons 
Richard Hipp wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM, James K. Lowden 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:40:43 -0400
>> Richard Hipp  wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > > PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
>> > >
>> >
>> > A google search shows that you see it both ways - with and without the
>> > "s".  I've always used the "s".
>>
>> http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/vocabulary/backward-backwards.htm
>>
>> Two countries divided by a common tongue.
>>
>>
> Except, I speak Southern English, not British English. And I can promise
> you that we southerners prefer to add the "s" to the end of "backwards".
> I'm not sure PerfectYourEnglish necessarily has all their facts straight.

Agreed.  I speak North-Eastern English, and "backwards compatibility"
sounds right to me.  One shouldn't necessarily believe everything one
reads on the internet (or, as it used to be, "in books").

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-07 Thread jose isaias cabrera 

"Richard Hipp" wrote...


32-bit and 64-bit DLLs are the latest 3.8.6 beta are now available on the
download page.  http://www.sqlite.org/download.html


All works great.  No visible speed increase for WHERE .. IN () as reported 
by someone, but nonetheless, all is well.  Thanks.



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM, jose isaias cabrera <
jic...@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:



"Richard Hipp" wrote...


 Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change 
log

(
http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather
long
and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.

Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications
use
the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.

Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index) for 
the

3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the
check-list
goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have been
marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week, or
early next week.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.



Are you planning in creating temporary binaries for Windows?  I use the
DLLs for our application.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-07 Thread E.Pasma 

Op 6 aug 2014, om 02:57 heeft Richard Hipp het volgende geschreven:

Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the  
change log (
http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting  
rather long

and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.

Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download  
page (
http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your  
applications use

the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.

Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index)  
for the
3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the  
check-list
goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have  
been
marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week,  
or

early next week.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Hello, I have a case where a primary key index is no longer used where  
it was used before. Below is a script to reproduce this and the ourput  
in the new and old SQLite versions respectively. Tthis is a minimal  
case, leaving out anything further makes the problem disappear. Thus  
it is strange that:

- the problem starts occuring only wher GROUP BY is present
- the problem occurs only when there are at least two joins
- idem only when the join condition involves BETWEEN
Hope that this contributes to the final release.
Thanks, E.Pasma

.version
CREATE TABLE node (node INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
minchild INTEGER,
maxchild INTEGER,
status CHAR NOT NULL)
;
explain query plan
SELECT  s2.status
FROMnode s0
JOINnode s1 ON s1.node BETWEEN s0.minchild AND s0.maxchild
JOINnode s2 ON s2.node BETWEEN s1.minchild AND s1.maxchild
WHERE   s0.node = 0 --root node
GROUP BY s2.status
;

SQLite 3.8.6 2014-08-06 14:36:53  
1202e9771f6d699dbf5268368108a3527d06d799

0|0|0|SEARCH TABLE node AS s0 USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
0|1|1|SCAN TABLE node AS s1
0|2|2|SEARCH TABLE node AS s2 USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid>? AND  
rowid
0|0|0|USE TEMP B-TREE FOR GROUP BY

SQLite 3.8.5 2014-06-02 11:26:33  
9f18b303cd1bc5779d82669884f802c7889b4947

0|0|0|SEARCH TABLE node AS s0 USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)
0|1|1|SEARCH TABLE node AS s1 USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid>? AND  
rowid0|2|2|SEARCH TABLE node AS s2 USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid>? AND  
rowid
0|0|0|USE TEMP B-TREE FOR GROUP BY


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread big stone 
ok,

output comparison

Size is different :
- before28 488 559
- now with beta 28 711 111
==> delta = 222 552  ... which is my number of ouput lines

The change in Newline Output policy (from CR to CR+LF) did generate a
suspens.
WinMerge says output is identical otherwise.


So my 5x improvement seems not the result of a bug.

I'm eager to see the speed-up that will show-up in your more general tests,
section 26. of  http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Scott Robison 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM, James K. Lowden 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:40:43 -0400
> > Richard Hipp  wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
> > > >
> > >
> > > A google search shows that you see it both ways - with and without the
> > > "s".  I've always used the "s".
> >
> > http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/vocabulary/backward-backwards.htm
> >
> > Two countries divided by a common tongue.
> >
> >
> Except, I speak Southern English, not British English. And I can promise
> you that we southerners prefer to add the "s" to the end of "backwards".
> I'm not sure PerfectYourEnglish necessarily has all their facts straight.
>

While it is debatable as to whether Texas is part of the south, I too used
backwards until an old retired school teacher, who was substituting one
day, scared me out of using it anymore.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM, James K. Lowden 
wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:40:43 -0400
> Richard Hipp  wrote:
>
> > >
> > > PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
> > >
> >
> > A google search shows that you see it both ways - with and without the
> > "s".  I've always used the "s".
>
> http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/vocabulary/backward-backwards.htm
>
> Two countries divided by a common tongue.
>
>
Except, I speak Southern English, not British English. And I can promise
you that we southerners prefer to add the "s" to the end of "backwards".
I'm not sure PerfectYourEnglish necessarily has all their facts straight.


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread James K. Lowden 
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:40:43 -0400
Richard Hipp  wrote:

> >
> > PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
> >
> 
> A google search shows that you see it both ways - with and without the
> "s".  I've always used the "s".

http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/vocabulary/backward-backwards.htm

Two countries divided by a common tongue.  

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM, big stone  wrote:

> Hello Sqlite team,
>
> My specific need relies on a rather complex combination of "in", and with
> the new beta I go from 50 seconds down to 10 seconds.
> (a 5x improvement)
>
> ==> Is that sort of gain possible with the recent "in" omtimisation,


Yes.



> or  shall look deeper if result is still right ?
>

Yes.  That is the purpose of beta testing, after all.  We may have
overlooked something.
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread big stone 
Hello Sqlite team,

My specific need relies on a rather complex combination of "in", and with
the new beta I go from 50 seconds down to 10 seconds.
(a 5x improvement)

==> Is that sort of gain possible with the recent "in" omtimisation, or
shall look deeper if result is still right ?

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread jose isaias cabrera 


"Richard Hipp" wrote...



32-bit and 64-bit DLLs are the latest 3.8.6 beta are now available on the
download page.  http://www.sqlite.org/download.html


Thank you very much, Dr. Hipp.

josé



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM, jose isaias cabrera <
jic...@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:



"Richard Hipp" wrote...


 Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change 
log

(
http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather
long
and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.

Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications
use
the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.

Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index) for 
the

3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the
check-list
goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have been
marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week, or
early next week.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.



Are you planning in creating temporary binaries for Windows?  I use the
DLLs for our application.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp 
32-bit and 64-bit DLLs are the latest 3.8.6 beta are now available on the
download page.  http://www.sqlite.org/download.html


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM, jose isaias cabrera <
jic...@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:

>
> "Richard Hipp" wrote...
>
>
>  Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change log
>> (
>> http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather
>> long
>> and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
>> 3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.
>>
>> Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
>> http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications
>> use
>> the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.
>>
>> Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.
>>
>> The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index) for the
>> 3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the
>> check-list
>> goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have been
>> marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week, or
>> early next week.
>>
>> Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
>>
>
> Are you planning in creating temporary binaries for Windows?  I use the
> DLLs for our application.
>
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Dominique Devienne 
wrote:

>
> PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
>

A google search shows that you see it both ways - with and without the
"s".  I've always used the "s".


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Tony Papadimitriou  wrote:

> Unless I'm misusing it, I believe the shell readfile() function reads a
> file as text, not binary.  I haven't checked writefile() for the same
> problem on writing.
>
> This is how I use it, is this not correct?
>
> create table t1(a blob);
> insert into  t1 values(readfile('binfile'));
> select * from t1;
>
> I always see text and I expect to see one of the following cases:
> 1. a hex sequence regardless of file type
> 2. text (if the file was text), or a hex sequence if it was binary.
>
> Instead, I see text when dealing with text files, and truncated text (up
> to the first zero) when dealing with binary.
>
> Am I misusing it?
>

To see hex output, use

SELECT quote(a) FROM t1;

The shell always prints BLOBs as just the bytes within the blob, not
translated to hex.  It has always done this.  For 14 years.  Example:

CREATE TABLE t1(a BLOB);
INSERT INTO t1(a) VALUES(x'78797a7a79');
SELECT a FROM t1;

The above prints: xyzzy



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Tony Papadimitriou 
Unless I'm misusing it, I believe the shell readfile() function reads a file 
as text, not binary.  I haven't checked writefile() for the same problem on 
writing.


This is how I use it, is this not correct?

create table t1(a blob);
insert into  t1 values(readfile('binfile'));
select * from t1;

I always see text and I expect to see one of the following cases:
1. a hex sequence regardless of file type
2. text (if the file was text), or a hex sequence if it was binary.

Instead, I see text when dealing with text files, and truncated text (up to 
the first zero) when dealing with binary.


Am I misusing it?

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Ling 
> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org [mailto:sqlite-users-
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hipp
> Sent: 06 August 2014 01:58
> To: General Discussion of SQLite Database; sqlite-dev
> Subject: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon
> 
> Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change log (
> http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather long
> and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
> 3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.
> 
> Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
> http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications
> use
> the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.
> 

The amalgamation I've just downloaded (201408060029) doesn't appear to have the 
changes
I did with Jan to make it compile under vxWorks.

Regards

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread tonyp 
src/func.c: The comment on top refers to sqliteRegisterBuildinFunctions() 
but the actual call seems to have been renamed to 
sqliteRegisterGlobalFunctions()


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-06 Thread Dominique Devienne 
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:
>
> Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The new doc mentioned by http://www.sqlite.org/draft/lang_expr.html#hexint
may have a 1-char typo:

However, for backwards compatibility, the "Ox" hexadecimal integer
notation

notice the "Ox" (capital letter o), instead of "0x" (zero digit). Confused
me on the first read. Hope this helps. --DD

PS: backward compatibility, no s, no?
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-05 Thread jose isaias cabrera 


"Richard Hipp" wrote...

Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change log 
(
http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather 
long

and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.

Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications 
use

the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.

Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index) for the
3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the 
check-list

goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have been
marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week, or
early next week.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.


Are you planning in creating temporary binaries for Windows?  I use the DLLs 
for our application.


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[sqlite] SQLite version 3.8.6 coming soon

2014-08-05 Thread Richard Hipp 
Version 3.8.6 was originally scheduled for September.  But the change log (
http://www.sqlite.org/draft/releaselog/current.html) is getting rather long
and there are a number of important bug fixes.  So we might try to get
3.8.6 out the door sooner rather than later.

Please test!  Recent amalgamations are available on the download page (
http://www.sqlite.org/download.html).  Please compile your applications use
the latest tip of trunk and let us know if you encounter any problems.

Please review the change log and speak up if you see anything amiss.

The status board (http://www.sqlite.org/checklists/3080600/index) for the
3.8.6 release is now on-line.  The usual rule applies:  When the check-list
goes all-green, we will cut the release.  No check-list items have been
marked off yet, but we might start marking them off later this week, or
early next week.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

-- 
D. Richard Hipp
d...@sqlite.org
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