Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-19 Thread Darren Duncan

Frank Missel wrote:

I think that the sqlite-users e-mail list has enough traffic to warrant a
proper forum. 


The only alternative forum I would accept is one with integrated email 
functionality so that all posts to the forum also generate emails with copies of 
the posts to people who want those, same as a mailing list would, and people can 
reply by email and then their replies end up on the forum as if someone had used 
the web to do it.


It is important to have email copies of everything, which I can archive locally.

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, John Drescher  wrote:
> My biggest reason for wanting a mailing list versus a forum is that I
> subscribe to 20+ mailing lists that all go to my gmail account with
> gmail rules to organize the content. If these mailing lists all were
> forums I would not bother with most of them since that would be a lot
> of work to check their status. With that said I rarely participate on
> the sqlite mailing list. This is mainly because I have not had many
> problems with it.

+1e6

Plus e-mail can be searched (so much so that with a nice enough MUA
one does not need filters).  Web fora?  Much harder to search across
many of them.

I subscribe to an enormous number of lists.  I could never manage that
with web fora.  Just say no to web fora.  No, no, no, no, no, ...

Nico
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Frank Missel  wrote:
> I think that the sqlite-users e-mail list has enough traffic to warrant a
> proper forum.
>
> Has this been considered?

I know of no better forum than a mailing list for this sort of thing.

Mailing lists have archives that can be downloaded and/or browsed
online.  How useful!

Mailing lists can be subscribed to -- or not.

Mailing lists are based on a standard: e-mail.

Web-based fora are non-standard and inconvenient.

More mailing lists might be OK though.

My $.02,

Nico
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Petite Abeille

On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Jos Groot Lipman wrote:

>> Yes, go install your forum and leave us in peace :P
> 
> Who said mail-lists get less flame-wars ;-)

Flame warriors roster:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Jos Groot Lipman
> Yes, go install your forum and leave us in peace :P

Who said mail-lists get less flame-wars ;-)

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:21:50 +, Jean-Denis MUYS
 wrote:

>On 18 oct. 2011, at 11:47, Frank Missel wrote:
>
>> I see several advantages to having a forum:
>> 
>> 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
>> 
> Mail can have as many subjects as desired
>

>> 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately displayed
>> 
>
> My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)
>

>> 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are posted (by
>> the author)
>
> Which can be seen as a liability
>
 
>> 4. Formatted rather than plain text
>
> Which mail is capable of
>

>> 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
>
> Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?
>
> On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better:
> I can read them off line, I can also answer them
> off line (my client will send my answers as soon
> as it gets online), I can archive any and/or all
> posts that I find valuableā€¦
>
> In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list
> interface (i.e. google groups), I prefer subscribing
> to them as a mailing list.

+1
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Petite Abeille

On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> However, if you really want a forum, install one on your web server and find 
> out how many people use it.

Yes, go install your forum and leave us in peace :P

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Arbol One
Sorry folks, but it does not matter who is right or wrong, if you want to
open a forum... go ahead, you can even announce it here; those interested
will follow your idea, but for the time being you are taking a lot of
bandwidth, time and creating distraction. Please, I encourage you to open
the forum and to announce the existence of it here, but stop posting the
plusses and minuses of it. 
Thanks in advance!!

-Original Message-
From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org
[mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Frank Missel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:10 AM
To: 'General Discussion of SQLite Database'
Subject: Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail
list

Hi Mark,

Well, perhaps you are right. 

But I am not going to take on that. 
I am a user of SQLite and can perhaps help with some posts and suggestions
now and then.
So I am just going to throw in the idea and state the pros vs. cons as I see
them .

Best regards,

Frank


> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org [mailto:sqlite-users-
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille
> Sent: 18 October 2011 21:54
> To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail
list
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know from experience that there really is no point whatsoever in
discussing
> whether a forum is better than mail or not. People are just not going to
> agree. Just set up your forum and find out whether you're going to have
> subscribers.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
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> On 18 okt 2011, at 15:49, Frank Missel wrote:
> 
> >> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Denis MUYS
> >>
> >>> 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
> >>>
> >> Mail can have as many subjects as desired
> >
> > Well, so can forum posts. The point is that the forum is divided into
> > main categories above the subject of the post
> >
> >
> >>> 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately
> >>> displayed
> >>>
> >> My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)
> >
> > I seriously doubt that :-).
> > I mean how much better than a totally ordered hierarchy with several
> > levels and forks can it be.
> >
> > But perhaps your mail client is very good. Which one do you use?
> >
> > Also, in a forum, you can see posts from a selected author sorted by
date.
> >
> >
> >>> 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are
> >>> posted (by the author)
> >>
> >> Which can be seen as a liability
> >
> > To be sure.
> > But then again until anyone has posted a reply. It can be used to
> > correct a typo or add info (where it makes sense rather than add a new
> post).
> >
> >
> >>> 4. Formatted rather than plain text
> >>
> >> Which mail is capable of
> >
> > Any formatting is stripped. At least it is so on the sqlite-users
mail-list.
> >
> >
> >>> 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
> >>>
> >> Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?
> >
> > Perhaps it could.
> > I find, however, that e-mails are spread all over the place on the
> > sqlite-users mailing list. So it is not being done here.
> > That is one of my big objections as it invariable leads to spamming of
> > the members.
> >
> >
> >> On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better: I can read them
> >> off
> > line, I
> >> can also answer them off line (my client will send my answers as soon
> >> as
> > it
> >> gets online), I can archive any and/or all posts that I find valuable.
> >
> > I get messages from others when they are on their way to work or home
> > sitting in trains and busses.
> > Mostly people are just online through wireless or mobile networks. It
> > is considered "in" to be able to access the Internet at all times in
> > all places, so I find that point a bit moot nowadays.
> >
> >
> >> In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list interface (i.e.
> >> google groups), I prefer subscribing to them as a mailing list.
> >>
> >> Even better than mailing lists: newsgroups. E

Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
Hi Mark,

I started this thread with a  suggestion of having a forum for SQLite rather
than a mailing list. That is the subject line.
All posts have been related to that. I wished to see what the consent or
lack thereof was in the community. Possibly it would then also be noted by
those that presently run the SQLite mailing list.
So how is that off topic exactly? 
Those that don't have anything to add to it, don't have to bother with it.

If you had started another thread about some technical aspect of SQLite and
I then started mailing to that thread inserting irrelevant posts about a
forum I would agree with you. But that is not quite the case is it. 
Your reply come over as somehow offended and I don't really see why.

Possibly you may feel that these post take up space in the general SQLite
mailing list, but that is one point of having a forum, that one can easily
overview and follow the threads which are of interest -- although I did not
start the thread to demonstrate it in that way :-).

I appreciate your suggestion about starting a forum myself. I do feel,
however, as stated earlier that it is not my business to take over the
running of the SQLite website, mailing list, forum, etc. That would belong
with the organisation, company, persons that take care of that now. By
having this thread with people replies and opinions it can then give an idea
of the pro and cons as well as an idea of how would be for and against it.


Best regards,

Frank


> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org [mailto:sqlite-users-
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille
> Sent: 18 October 2011 22:19
> To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail
list
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> If you want to discuss the pros and cons of a forum, I think you should
ask
> your question on a mailing list or forum about mailing lists and forums.
Your
> question is very off-topic if you don't intend to start a SQLite forum
yourself,
> but I think you could ask the members of this SQLite mailing list "who
wants
> to start a forum?" without starting a lengthy off-topic discussion. I'm
out of
> this discussion now.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Frank,

If you want to discuss the pros and cons of a forum, I think you should ask 
your question on a mailing list or forum about mailing lists and forums. Your 
question is very off-topic if you don't intend to start a SQLite forum 
yourself, but I think you could ask the members of this SQLite mailing list 
"who wants to start a forum?" without starting a lengthy off-topic discussion. 
I'm out of this discussion now.

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On 18 okt 2011, at 16:10, Frank Missel wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Well, perhaps you are right. 
> 
> But I am not going to take on that. 
> I am a user of SQLite and can perhaps help with some posts and suggestions
> now and then.
> So I am just going to throw in the idea and state the pros vs. cons as I see
> them .
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Frank

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
Hi Mark,

Well, perhaps you are right. 

But I am not going to take on that. 
I am a user of SQLite and can perhaps help with some posts and suggestions
now and then.
So I am just going to throw in the idea and state the pros vs. cons as I see
them .

Best regards,

Frank


> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org [mailto:sqlite-users-
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille
> Sent: 18 October 2011 21:54
> To: General Discussion of SQLite Database
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail
list
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know from experience that there really is no point whatsoever in
discussing
> whether a forum is better than mail or not. People are just not going to
> agree. Just set up your forum and find out whether you're going to have
> subscribers.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> KvK: 50277553
> 
> See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode
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> are listed at http://qery.us/zr
> 
> On 18 okt 2011, at 15:49, Frank Missel wrote:
> 
> >> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Denis MUYS
> >>
> >>> 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
> >>>
> >> Mail can have as many subjects as desired
> >
> > Well, so can forum posts. The point is that the forum is divided into
> > main categories above the subject of the post
> >
> >
> >>> 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately
> >>> displayed
> >>>
> >> My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)
> >
> > I seriously doubt that :-).
> > I mean how much better than a totally ordered hierarchy with several
> > levels and forks can it be.
> >
> > But perhaps your mail client is very good. Which one do you use?
> >
> > Also, in a forum, you can see posts from a selected author sorted by
date.
> >
> >
> >>> 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are
> >>> posted (by the author)
> >>
> >> Which can be seen as a liability
> >
> > To be sure.
> > But then again until anyone has posted a reply. It can be used to
> > correct a typo or add info (where it makes sense rather than add a new
> post).
> >
> >
> >>> 4. Formatted rather than plain text
> >>
> >> Which mail is capable of
> >
> > Any formatting is stripped. At least it is so on the sqlite-users
mail-list.
> >
> >
> >>> 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
> >>>
> >> Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?
> >
> > Perhaps it could.
> > I find, however, that e-mails are spread all over the place on the
> > sqlite-users mailing list. So it is not being done here.
> > That is one of my big objections as it invariable leads to spamming of
> > the members.
> >
> >
> >> On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better: I can read them
> >> off
> > line, I
> >> can also answer them off line (my client will send my answers as soon
> >> as
> > it
> >> gets online), I can archive any and/or all posts that I find valuable.
> >
> > I get messages from others when they are on their way to work or home
> > sitting in trains and busses.
> > Mostly people are just online through wireless or mobile networks. It
> > is considered "in" to be able to access the Internet at all times in
> > all places, so I find that point a bit moot nowadays.
> >
> >
> >> In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list interface (i.e.
> >> google groups), I prefer subscribing to them as a mailing list.
> >>
> >> Even better than mailing lists: newsgroups. Except my company only
> >> lets us use port 80 in addition to the mail gateway, so I can't use
> newsgroups.
> >
> > Who am I tell someone what to prefer.
> > I just find, however, it is a bit religious like choice of OS or
> > gadgets. I can see that e-mail lists can work and in the past could
> > have a lot of advantages. Nowadays, I find not as many good reasons to
> > prefer them over a proper forum which have some really nice features.
> >
> >
> > /Frank Missel
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Eugene N
> Mailing list is the one true way; Look what IT forums turn into
eventually...

This is a generality and not really an argument.
Which forums do you mean?

I have followed several forums which work exactly as one would hope for. Two
examples comes to mind: 
https://forums.virtualbox.org/
http://forums.codeblocks.org/


> The only way to maintain high level of responsibility and seriousness of
> discussion is, alas, a mailing list

I don't see why. The two examples above are very good forums with relevant
posts, etc.
I find that SQLite would fall in the same category: A technical expertise
forum covering a specific product, application, programming language, etc.
With a members only access and very dedicated users.


/Frank Missel

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi,

I know from experience that there really is no point whatsoever in discussing 
whether a forum is better than mail or not. People are just not going to agree. 
Just set up your forum and find out whether you're going to have subscribers.

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On 18 okt 2011, at 15:49, Frank Missel wrote:

>> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Denis MUYS
>> 
>>> 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
>>> 
>> Mail can have as many subjects as desired
> 
> Well, so can forum posts. The point is that the forum is divided into main
> categories above the subject of the post 
> 
> 
>>> 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately
>>> displayed
>>> 
>> My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)
> 
> I seriously doubt that :-).
> I mean how much better than a totally ordered hierarchy with several levels
> and forks can it be. 
> 
> But perhaps your mail client is very good. Which one do you use?
> 
> Also, in a forum, you can see posts from a selected author sorted by date.
> 
> 
>>> 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are posted
>>> (by the author)
>> 
>> Which can be seen as a liability
> 
> To be sure. 
> But then again until anyone has posted a reply. It can be used to correct a
> typo or add info (where it makes sense rather than add a new post).
> 
> 
>>> 4. Formatted rather than plain text
>> 
>> Which mail is capable of
> 
> Any formatting is stripped. At least it is so on the sqlite-users mail-list.
> 
> 
>>> 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
>>> 
>> Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?
> 
> Perhaps it could. 
> I find, however, that e-mails are spread all over the place on the
> sqlite-users mailing list. So it is not being done here.
> That is one of my big objections as it invariable leads to spamming of the
> members.
> 
> 
>> On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better: I can read them off
> line, I
>> can also answer them off line (my client will send my answers as soon as
> it
>> gets online), I can archive any and/or all posts that I find valuable.
> 
> I get messages from others when they are on their way to work or home
> sitting in trains and busses.
> Mostly people are just online through wireless or mobile networks. It is
> considered "in" to be able to access the Internet at all times in all
> places, so I find that point a bit moot nowadays.
> 
> 
>> In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list interface (i.e. google
>> groups), I prefer subscribing to them as a mailing list.
>> 
>> Even better than mailing lists: newsgroups. Except my company only lets us
>> use port 80 in addition to the mail gateway, so I can't use newsgroups.
> 
> Who am I tell someone what to prefer.  
> I just find, however, it is a bit religious like choice of OS or gadgets. I
> can see that e-mail lists can work and in the past could have a lot of
> advantages. Nowadays, I find not as many good reasons to prefer them over a
> proper forum which have some really nice features.
> 
> 
> /Frank Missel

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
> boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Denis MUYS
> 
> > 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
> >
> Mail can have as many subjects as desired

Well, so can forum posts. The point is that the forum is divided into main
categories above the subject of the post 

 
> > 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately
> > displayed
> >
> My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)

I seriously doubt that :-).
I mean how much better than a totally ordered hierarchy with several levels
and forks can it be. 

But perhaps your mail client is very good. Which one do you use?

Also, in a forum, you can see posts from a selected author sorted by date.


> > 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are posted
> > (by the author)
> 
> Which can be seen as a liability

To be sure. 
But then again until anyone has posted a reply. It can be used to correct a
typo or add info (where it makes sense rather than add a new post).


> > 4. Formatted rather than plain text
> 
> Which mail is capable of

Any formatting is stripped. At least it is so on the sqlite-users mail-list.


> > 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
> >
> Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?

Perhaps it could. 
I find, however, that e-mails are spread all over the place on the
sqlite-users mailing list. So it is not being done here.
That is one of my big objections as it invariable leads to spamming of the
members.


> On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better: I can read them off
line, I
> can also answer them off line (my client will send my answers as soon as
it
> gets online), I can archive any and/or all posts that I find valuable.

I get messages from others when they are on their way to work or home
sitting in trains and busses.
Mostly people are just online through wireless or mobile networks. It is
considered "in" to be able to access the Internet at all times in all
places, so I find that point a bit moot nowadays.


> In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list interface (i.e. google
> groups), I prefer subscribing to them as a mailing list.
> 
> Even better than mailing lists: newsgroups. Except my company only lets us
> use port 80 in addition to the mail gateway, so I can't use newsgroups.

Who am I tell someone what to prefer.  
I just find, however, it is a bit religious like choice of OS or gadgets. I
can see that e-mail lists can work and in the past could have a lot of
advantages. Nowadays, I find not as many good reasons to prefer them over a
proper forum which have some really nice features.


/Frank Missel

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Eugene N
Mailing list is the one true way; Look what IT forums turn into
eventually...
The only way to maintain high level of responsibility and seriousness of
discussion is, alas, a mailing list

2011/10/18 John Drescher 

> My biggest reason for wanting a mailing list versus a forum is that I
> subscribe to 20+ mailing lists that all go to my gmail account with
> gmail rules to organize the content. If these mailing lists all were
> forums I would not bother with most of them since that would be a lot
> of work to check their status. With that said I rarely participate on
> the sqlite mailing list. This is mainly because I have not had many
> problems with it.
>
> John
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread John Drescher
My biggest reason for wanting a mailing list versus a forum is that I
subscribe to 20+ mailing lists that all go to my gmail account with
gmail rules to organize the content. If these mailing lists all were
forums I would not bother with most of them since that would be a lot
of work to check their status. With that said I rarely participate on
the sqlite mailing list. This is mainly because I have not had many
problems with it.

John
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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Jean-Denis MUYS

On 18 oct. 2011, at 11:47, Frank Missel wrote:

> I see several advantages to having a forum:
> 
> 1. Several subject forums as mentioned
> 
Mail can have as many subjects as desired

> 2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately displayed
> 

My mail client threads far better than most forums (fora?)

> 3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are posted (by
> the author)

Which can be seen as a liability

> 
> 4. Formatted rather than plain text

Which mail is capable of

> 
> 5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed
> 

Couldn't a mailing list hide email addresses too?

On the other hand, I find mailing lists much better: I can read them off line, 
I can also answer them off line (my client will send my answers as soon as it 
gets online), I can archive any and/or all posts that I find valuableā€¦

In fact, when fora (forums?) propose a mailing list interface (i.e. google 
groups), I prefer subscribing to them as a mailing list.

Even better than mailing lists: newsgroups. Except my company only lets us use 
port 80 in addition to the mail gateway, so I can't use newsgroups.

JDM

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
> [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille
> I prefer mailing lists because I can read and write e-mails while I'm
online
> (.e.g while travelling) and I can easily flag important messages, copy
text and
> syntax in plain format or print (part of) an e-mail and I can also
organise the
> message in the wy I see fit. A true geek uses e-mail, no forums.

Well, if you are online you can open a browser as well.

You can copy text and print -- it is after all also just text in the posts
in the forum when you use ctrl-c.
When working posts in forum software there are very nice features for
commenting posts of others where author and date is automatically inserted.

The one thing that I find really nice in forums is the immediate overview of
longer threads with forks on several levels. Its easy to follow the
discussions.

I have tried both forum and e-mail-list. Although e-mail-list can work, the
forum is so much nicer in my opinion.

> A true geek uses e-mail, no forums.

Ah well, perhaps this is more the reason for not wanting to try it ;-).


> However, if you really want a forum, install one on your web server and
find
> out how many people use it.

Nah, for it to have any success it would have to be an official forum
endorsed and supported by the SQLite team.


/Frank Missel

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Arbol One
yap, I agree with you, email better.

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Subject: Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail
list

Hi,

I prefer mailing lists because I can read and write e-mails while I'm online
(.e.g while travelling) and I can easily flag important messages, copy text
and syntax in plain format or print (part of) an e-mail and I can also
organise the message in the wy I see fit. A true geek uses e-mail, no
forums.

However, if you really want a forum, install one on your web server and find
out how many people use it.

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On 18 okt 2011, at 11:35, Frank Missel wrote:

> I think that the sqlite-users e-mail list has enough traffic to warrant a
> proper forum. 
> 
> Has this been considered?
> 

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi,

I prefer mailing lists because I can read and write e-mails while I'm online 
(.e.g while travelling) and I can easily flag important messages, copy text and 
syntax in plain format or print (part of) an e-mail and I can also organise the 
message in the wy I see fit. A true geek uses e-mail, no forums.

However, if you really want a forum, install one on your web server and find 
out how many people use it.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are 
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On 18 okt 2011, at 11:35, Frank Missel wrote:

> I think that the sqlite-users e-mail list has enough traffic to warrant a
> proper forum. 
> 
> Has this been considered?
> 

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Re: [sqlite] FW: How about a proper forum rather than an e-mail list

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Missel
I see several advantages to having a forum:

1. Several subject forums as mentioned

2. Better view of threads with several levels being immediately displayed

3. Preview of entries and  editing of them even after they are posted (by
the author)

4. Formatted rather than plain text

5. No need for e-mail-addresses to be exposed


/Frank Missel

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