Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread nnck

Hey, don't get me wrong Michael. I am super-psyched that this is working
right now. I think I'll still be up playing around with it tonight in
the wee hours. I see already it has some cool new smart search functions
where it guesses what artist or album you are typing into the search
window. Like a lot of the other better search engines. Maybe a fairly
common thing these days, but a very nice touch.

I had sort of given up that I would ever be able to update the LMS
software. I looked back at the case I opened with Logitech when I
started having scanning problems with 7.6 software. It was back in 2011,
and they basically told me they couldnt help me and I should just keep
using 7.5.5. Couple that with the fact that I use the Squeezebox *every
single day, for hours and hours*. I'm a long-time music collector. These
days I mostly collect LPs, but I still have a collections of several
thousand discs. And when I'm not playing LPs, I spend a lot of time
checking out new music wirelessly. This may sound ridiculous, but I use
the Squeezebox so much that I have been afraid to upgrade the operating
system on my iMAC. Because the one time I did that, 7.5.5 server
software stopped working, and I already had it in my mind that if I
upgraded it, I would run into scanning issues.

Anyway, for now I am having fun with it. And I have one more question
for the moment:

The Squeezebox device itself is now continually prompting me to upgrade
the firmware to 7.9.0. For now, I am ignoring the notice. Just being
overly cautious, but in the event I do find I cant use 7.9.0 and need to
revert back to something earlier like 7.5.5 again, is there any issue
with having the updated firmware on the device itself while having an
earlier LMS version on your computer?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread Mnyb

may just be the setting for how multidiscs album are treated as one or
as separate discs .

Excellent congrats to be able to use a modern version of LMS :) good for
us all that someone new reports a scanner crash .
We that been here a while and regularly report stuff had output
collections "vetted" .
7.6 and up did some changes and I remeber reporting some scanner bugs to
bugzilla back then .




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread nnck

Dont want to get my hopes up, but it may have worked this time!

I removed the suspect image file from the folder. I'm sending that image
file to you in your dropbox Michael.
Next I just started up another scan using 7.9.0 with all the debugging
on, etc. I had to leave for about an hour or so, but when I got back it
looked like it had completed. I'm sending the new scanner.log to you as
well Michael. I'm wondering if you can tell me what you make of it.

One odd thing is that according to the Media Library Statistics on the
first tab of the Squeezebox preference pane, there are actually a
handful of more tracks scanned using 7.9.0 than 7.5.5, but there are
actually about 200 fewer albums in the new scan vs 7.5.5. A little odd?

7.5.5 had 33983 tracks in 3933 albums
7.9.0 has 34086 tracks in 3748 albums

I dont want to get bogged down in that too much. I think i will just use
the new LMS 7.9.0 for a while and see how it works out for me. If there
are no serious issues, I will then upgrade my Macbook Air to the same
version.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Nightly updates ?

2016-03-03 Thread cdmackay

castalla wrote: 
> The automated checker seems to have a mind of its own - sometimes
> there's a notification - more often there's nothing.
> 

aha!

I've been having the same discussion, but we didn't find a cause.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS prompts to upgrade but won't.

2016-03-03 Thread HokieKev

epoch1970 wrote: 
> Wow, a PPC mac Mini... I would leave it at that if I were you, even if
> opening the box is not such of a problem.
> The little machine that still can is terribly slow by todays standards.
> A raspberry Pi would be cheaper than a RAM module and considerably
> faster (except perhaps on random disk IOs)

I have actually thought about that. My music collection is only about
175G. I have a 256G SD card and was thinking about setting up a LMS
server on a new Raspberry Pi 3. That would be a big step up from my Mac
Mini. But hey, if it ain't broke... ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread nnck

Hi Michael. When I have some time next, I will remove that image file
(if I can find it) and rescan. I will send you the image file if you
like (again, as long as I can find it). 

A couple of posts back someone else was also asking me "We didnt know
how many files, -where the artwork is stored -and the filesize..." 

I just have all of my albums each in a separate folder within a single
large Music folder on the iMAC. I assume the image files are just in the
folder along with the album? If not, then I wouldn't even know where
they are. I will check on this one when I get back home.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS prompts to upgrade but won't.

2016-03-03 Thread DJanGo

HokieKev wrote: 
> It is a bit of a hassle to open these old cases so it might make sense
> to do that. The thing is 10 years old though. Not sure how cost
> effective it would be to upgrade ram. This is actually a dedicated
> device which runs LMS and does nothing else. As long as it can do that
> one task - stream an ALAC or MP3 (320) file to the hard wired Ethernet
> port - which it seems to do just fine - I am not sure if I care how fast
> it is for general use.'
23bucks'
(http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac/G5_1.6GHz_1.8GHz_2.0GHz)if
its a G5 and my dedicated lms runs under tux on a Hardware thats also
from 2005.
The Step from 1 Gb to 2 GB - even under tux - was a really big step
cause Michael adds some magic handling for using the RAM more efficient
(if there is some unused)


My Mac SE has a 80 MB SCSI Harddisk with 4 MB Ram using MAC OS 7.6 using
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS prompts to upgrade but won't.

2016-03-03 Thread epoch1970

Wow, a PPC mac Mini... I would leave it at that if I were you, even if
opening the box is not such of a problem.
The little machine that still can is terribly slow by todays standards.
A raspberry Pi would be cheaper than a RAM module and considerably
faster (except perhaps on random disk IOs)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread DJanGo

nnck wrote: 
> 
> How long should I let these steps go before I assume they are stuck?

Over the night.

We didnt know how many files, where the artwork is stored and the
filesize and some other useful info about your setup to answer the right
amount of time.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread Mnyb

Are you sure it's actually stopping there , if you haven't used the full
text search plugin before it migth take time to complete ? 20 minutes is
not that much ? Are you scanning over a network or do you have the music
files locally on the computer ? full etc search plugin can be disabled .




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Nightly updates ?

2016-03-03 Thread castalla

mherger wrote: 
> > We all like updates!   But recently, 7,9 updates are appearing 2-3
> times
> > a day!
> 
> LMS should only check for updates once a day. Unless you've modified its
> 
> configuration.
> 
> > Any reasons for this confetti of updates ?
> 
> Our build system had always been set up to build whenever there's a 
> change. And then build the "nightly" every 24h. Only that latter would 
> be published. But it's always been an automated process.
> 
> As I've found myself triggering the "nightly" builds more and more often
> 
> in between those 24h intervals (to fix an urgent bug), I decided to 
> simply have the immediate builds be pushed out to the download site, 
> too. Assuming the update checker would only check every 24h anyway, this
> 
> should not have any major impact on the users' installations. Unless a.)
> 
> you have your own, nervous update checker do its job more frequently, or
> 
> b.) you've modified the prefs file to have LMS check more often than 
> every 24h, or c.) there is a bug in the update checker. As c.) is not an
> 
> option, please tell me what you did :-).
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I use the human update checker - just look at the nightly page!

The automated checker seems to have a mind of its own - sometimes
there's a notifcation - more often there's nothing.

I haven't the heart to dig into the logging procedure to try to discover
a reason (sorry).



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS prompts to upgrade but won't.

2016-03-03 Thread HokieKev

DJanGo wrote: 
> if its in good condition get -now- some Ram for it.
> In 3-6 Month you have to pay more money for the needed Ram Modules (if
> you can find one of these).

It is a bit of a hassle to open these old cases so it might make sense
to do that. The thing is 10 years old though. Not sure how cost
effective it would be to upgrade ram. This is actually a dedicated
device which runs LMS and does nothing else. As long as it can do that
one task - stream an ALAC or MP3 (320) file to the hard wired Ethernet
port - which it seems to do just fine - I am not sure if I care how fast
it is for general use.



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Nightly updates ?

2016-03-03 Thread castalla

We all like updates!   But recently, 7,9 updates are appearing 2-3 times
a day!

Any reasons for this confetti of updates ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS prompts to upgrade but won't.

2016-03-03 Thread DJanGo

HokieKev wrote: 
> Incidentally, this Mac Mini only has 512M of Ram. 

if its in good condition get -now- some Ram for it.
In 3-6 Month you have to pay more money for the needed Ram Modules (if
you can find one of these).



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

2016-03-03 Thread nnck

Seems strange, Michael, as I'm sure I had set the 'scan' options to
debug and hit apply before i did the scan on 7.9.0. And afterwards, I
did a clean install of 7.5.5. So unless the default is for 'debug' on
these options in 7.5.5, why would it do that?

I'll try again when I have some time. Maybe tonight. I know this is a
slow process, but I'll keep plugging away at it.

I'll set the artwork options to debug as well then? You do at least see
from the last line that it was stuck in precaching artwork, correct?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Running 2 LMS Services or Multi Library question

2016-03-03 Thread JJZolx

Ok, I was able to get that to work. By removing the double quotes from
all of the paths.


Code:


  "C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\SqueezeSvr.exe" --prefsdir 
C:\ProgramData\Squeeze\40\prefs --cachedir C:\ProgramData\Squeeze\40\cache 
--logdir C:\ProgramData\Squeeze\40\logs --playeraddr 192.168.9.40 --cliaddr 
192.168.9.40 --streamaddr 192.168.9.40 --httpaddr 192.168.9.40 --d_startup




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Running 2 LMS Services or Multi Library question

2016-03-03 Thread JJZolx

mherger wrote: 
> > I'm not sure your fix works. If I try it with the standard
> "squeezesvc"
> > service that was installed by the Control Panel, I get an error. Here
> is
> > what I have in ImagePath in the registry:
> 
> Hmm... did you register this manually or simply modify an existing 
> registration?

That was "squeezesvc", the one that was installed using the LMS Control
Panel.



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