Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9.0 is out!

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

..db files. How big are they?


artwork.db is huge - 2,372,286,464
library.db is next - 122,447,872


Yeah, I think that's it. Shut down LMS, delete these two, restart. This 
will trigger a new scan, of course. But I changed something in 7.9's 
cache handling which needs the library file to be re-built from scratch 
to take effect.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9.0 is out!

2017-07-03 Thread Viragored

mherger wrote: 
> 
> Could you check your cache folder, in particular the size of the various
> 
> ..db files. How big are they?
> 

artwork.db is huge - 2,372,286,464
library.db is next - 122,447,872
persist.db - 20,589,568
cache.db - 5,332,992

Screenshot attached showing the files in the cache folder


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

2. MicroSD cards aren't especially robust, so I like to have one or more

3. My library is well over 100,000 tracks at this point, so running even


MicroSD card, 100k tracks? What server hardware? I sure hope you've got 
enough RAM to enable maximum memory usage for the database?



just a scan-for-new winds up interrupting the music during the final
steps. So if I have to do a scan, I like to be able to switch to another
server for listening.


It certainly shouldn't interrupt, as the scanner is run in a different 
process. Unless you're seriously running this kind of collection on a 
really poor single core CPU with not enough memory...



5. I'm insane.


Ok, that would explain a lot. But that's nothing I could help with :-).

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TIDAL Reporting Incorrect number of tracks

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger
It's not limited to iPeng. Just saw it using SqueezePlay, too. Don't 
know what's going on there. Will have to investigate.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread d6jg

atrocity wrote: 
> Several reasons:
> 
> 1. I keep a separate server for all-night use. It uses several of
> Erland's plugins to cycle through never-played albums with a bunch of
> genre restrictions. I'm not the best sleeper and find it pleasant to
> have music going if/when I wake up in the middle of the night. That one
> feeds a dedicated player in the bedroom.
> 
> 2. MicroSD cards aren't especially robust, so I like to have one or more
> backups servers in case one of them gives out. In the early days of my
> SB addiction my worst fear was having a server or player die, but that's
> no longer a serious concern.
> 
> 3. My library is well over 100,000 tracks at this point, so running even
> just a scan-for-new winds up interrupting the music during the final
> steps. So if I have to do a scan, I like to be able to switch to another
> server for listening.
> 
> 4. I have a housemate with a separate server that only serves up his
> music.
> 
> 5. I'm insane.

You do realise that you should have several iThingys each with iPeng
"tuned" to a different server. Job jobbed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TIDAL Reporting Incorrect number of tracks

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

I am using iPeng, but will look at the results given on the LMS web page
GUI as well as i wonder if iPeng is cashing some information?


Ok, I can indeed reproduce this with iPeng. No idea what's going on 
there. Will look into this. Maybe pippin has a pointer?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread atrocity

mherger wrote: 
> Totally off-topic... but may I ask why you need to switch?

Several reasons:

1. I keep a separate server for all-night use. It uses several of
Erland's plugins to cycle through never-played albums with a bunch of
genre restrictions. I'm not the best sleeper and find it pleasant to
have music going if/when I wake up in the middle of the night. That one
feeds a dedicated player in the bedroom.

2. MicroSD cards aren't especially robust, so I like to have one or more
backups servers in case one of them gives out. In the early days of my
SB addiction my worst fear was having a server or player die, but that's
no longer a serious concern.

3. My library is well over 100,000 tracks at this point, so running even
just a scan-for-new winds up interrupting the music during the final
steps. So if I have to do a scan, I like to be able to switch to another
server for listening.

4. I have a housemate with a separate server that only serves up his
music.

5. I'm insane.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

I love the functionality of iPeng...and I never use it any more. In my
experience, it's fantastic if you don't need to switch between multiple
servers with big libraries. Unfortunately, I do need to do that and it


Totally off-topic... but may I ask why you need to switch?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread atrocity

d6jg wrote: 
> My 2p
> 
> Without iPeng LMS is a great music server but its controlability,
> although still light years ahead of most uPnP/DLNA equivalents, is
> missing something. That something is iPeng. It is the missing piece that
> makes LMS the eco-system it is. I know there are Android equivalents but
> I feel sorry for people that haven't got iThingys and are forced to use
> something other than iPeng.
> 
> It is easily worth the price of a CD

I love the functionality of iPeng...and I never use it any more. In my
experience, it's fantastic if you don't need to switch between multiple
servers with big libraries. Unfortunately, I do need to do that and it
seems that iPeng insists on downloading/caching tons of data with every
switch. It becomes unusable for several minutes and can even cause the
music to stutter. At least, that's the case in my setup, though it
occurs to me that I probably haven't tried since going to faster NASes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TIDAL Reporting Incorrect number of tracks

2017-07-03 Thread reflex1984

I am using iPeng, but will look at the results given on the LMS web page
GUI as well as i wonder if iPeng is cashing some information?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TIDAL Reporting Incorrect number of tracks

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

When I browse Moods / Relax / TIDAL RELAX I initially get 26 songs
listed, but when I browse this again it reports 88 songs. This is the
same for other Moods playlists. The native PC App always reports 88
tracks for this playlist.


What UI are you using? Where exactly would you see that number of 26 tracks?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread ralphy

I get the allow flash warning from the lms webgui whenever firefox wants
the flash plugin updated.

Perhaps Stig and I should compare our configurations.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread Stig Nygaard

Allright, I checked the traffic in my browsers Network log when allowing
Flash to be loaded, and I saw no .swf files being loaded when opening
Settings or looking a bit around in settings.
I have never worked with Flash or other browser plugins, but probably
there's a way you can check for support without actually loading any
Flash content, and such a check somewhere might trigger my Firefox
(configured to "Ask to Activate" for Flash plugin) to ask?
Anyway, seems to be a non-issue :-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

But I have long time been wondering why LMS apparently try to run some
flash content when opening the Settings page?


As SuperQ has said already: I can't remember ever having seen this warning.

That said...


I found some references to a Yahoo Charts control in /html/js.html
(http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.8.2/build/charts/assets/charts.swf).
Probably this one:
http://yui.github.io/yui2/docs/yui_2.9.0_full/charts/index.html


You might be up to something: IIRC ExtJS (which we're using in LMS' web 
UI) started based on YUI. And there indeed are references to swf in the 
framework's source code. Maybe we don't get to see the warning as we are 
using a customized package, not the full ExtJS library. But something in 
your LMS might reference the full file, causing that question?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread Stig Nygaard

SuperQ wrote: 
> I don't get any flash content on my server, maybe there's a plugin you
> have that wants it?

Hmm, could be. Haven't thought about that possibility.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread SuperQ

I don't get any flash content on my server, maybe there's a plugin you
have that wants it?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TIDAL Reporting Incorrect number of tracks

2017-07-03 Thread reflex1984

Hi, I am using TIDAL v1.2 Plugin on mysqueezebox.com, Logitech Media
Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1395395852 @ Tue May 6 10:42:37 EDT 2014

When I browse Moods / Relax / TIDAL RELAX I initially get 26 songs
listed, but when I browse this again it reports 88 songs. This is the
same for other Moods playlists. The native PC App always reports 88
tracks for this playlist. 

Can anyone confirm this, or if I can do anything to fix this? 

Thanks



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why Flash in LMS?

2017-07-03 Thread Stig Nygaard

This is probably in the category of less critical issues, if it's an
issue at all.
But I have long time been wondering why LMS apparently try to run some
flash content when opening the Settings page?
23037

I do not see any difference if I allow Flash content to run in the
browser, so maybe LMS just checks to see if Flash is supported without
actually using it?

I found some references to a Yahoo Charts control in /html/js.html
(http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.8.2/build/charts/assets/charts.swf).
Probably this one:
http://yui.github.io/yui2/docs/yui_2.9.0_full/charts/index.html

If it is actually used for something, maybe it's time to look for
alternative ways to implement whatever feature it is used for? Also note
the Yahoo site has some security warnings regarding the version of the
app which LMS apparently/maybe are using...


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread d6jg

My 2p

Without iPeng LMS is a great music server but its controlability,
although still light years ahead of most uPnP/DLNA equivalents, is
missing something. That something is iPeng. It is the missing piece that
makes LMS the eco-system it is. I know there are Android equivalents but
I feel sorry for people that haven't got iThingys and are forced to use
something other than iPeng.

It is easily worth the price of a CD



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-> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9.0 is out!

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

Thanks Michael - "yum clean all / yum update" gave me this version of
LMS - "Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 -
0.150.20161204git1480516903 @ Sun Dec 4 22:31:21 GMT 2016" All the Linux
and other details are the same as before this update.


Still pretty old...


"Clear library and rescan everything" started after a much shorter
delay, about 6 or 7 minutes before any activity showed on the
information tab of the settings screen. Scan time was 00:35:52, the
usual sort of time for my collection.


Could you check your cache folder, in particular the size of the various 
.db files. How big are they?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [slim] iOS11 upgrade - squeezeboxcontroller app no longer working

2017-07-03 Thread Michael Herger

BTW, iPeng 9 is 9$, not 10. just to nitpick.


I stand corrected. But even 10$ would not be "expensive" in this context 
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