Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
This has always worked for me to restrict the rather `noisy` Squeezebox devices to a dedicated subnet (on Wifi/LAN bridge interface `br1`): player_if=$(ip route show dev br1 | awk '{print $7}') LMS_OPTS="--playeraddr ${player_if}" This restricts port 9090. You can do the same with the command line interface by adding `--cliaddr ${player_if}` (or --cliport 0 to disable it completely) and the HTTP GUI by adding `--httpaddr ${player_if}` gordonb3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !
Might be a long shot, but if you can't see any apps on the qnapclub repository in the Qnap's App Center, you may try checking the checkbox in the setttings of the App center > general > allow installation of apps with no digital signature, if it's not checked already. mnd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108702 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
Your version means that I have to enable filterHosts as well, is that the intention? I can't remember if filterHosts is on by default or not. Yes, it means that IF you had filterHosts enabled and the IP was in the isAllowedHosts list, that check would be skipped. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Soundquality gets poor after 6-8 hours of listening
Hi thanks again for more help Yes my problem is existing on all of my 5 devices On booth squeezelite 1.86 and 1.98, I use ALSA output, this weekend I did a long tetst run with Spotify and the same problem occur. Could there be something wrong with my codec? I assume all my players could but it's not reasonable to have sam hardware issue on all of them from beeing working ok until last summer. This is output of Squeezelite -l Output devices: null - Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) default:CARD=VT82xx- HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - Default Audio Device sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - Default Audio Device front:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0- HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - Front speakers surround21:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers surround40:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=VT82xx,DEV=0 - HDA VIA VT82xx, ALC262 Analog - 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers l's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113843 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
troffasky wrote: > > cliaddr set > > Code: > > > # lsof -i -n | grep LISTEN | grep squeez > squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver8u IPv4 998654547 0t0 TCP *:3483 (LISTEN) > squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 18u IPv4 998654548 0t0 TCP 192.168.1.3:9090 (LISTEN) > squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 25u IPv4 998654621 0t0 TCP *:36413 (LISTEN) > squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 26u IPv4 998654625 0t0 TCP *:9000 (LISTEN) > > > > --httpaddr 192.168.1.xx --cliaddr 192.168.1.xx --playeraddr 192.168.1.xx works for me: Code: slimserve 17610 squeezeserver8u inet 485535 0t0 TCP 192.168.1.xx:3483 (LISTEN) slimserve 17610 squeezeserver 22u inet 485537 0t0 TCP 192.168.1.xx:9090 (LISTEN) slimserve 17610 squeezeserver 32u inet 485545 0t0 TCP 192.168.1.xx:9000 (LISTEN) 'Various SW' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/sw/): Web Interface | TUI | Playlist Editor / Generator | Music Classification | Similar Music | Announce | EventTrigger | Chiptunes | LMSlib2go | ... 'Various HowTos' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/documents/LMS/): build a self-contained LMS | Bluetooth/ALSA | Control LMS with any device | ... Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Player library views and random mix preferences interaction?
I remember seeing a python utility and browsing the 1/3-party software sub forum I discovered one written in Go. I cant tell you more Im afraid. These utilities would all use the servers CLI on port 9090 I assume. So the server could be installed as a container or on a host just as well. However, unless youre comfortable working with containers I dont see the advantage compared to using an inexpensive and dedicated platform like a Pi. 2 SB 3 1 PCP 6 Libratone Loop, Zipp, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113861 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
Your version means that I have to enable filterHosts as well, is that the intention? I can't remember if filterHosts is on by default or not. troffasky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Custom Clock Helper in Unsupported Category
lsanders99 wrote: > When running the Custom Clock plugin from the radio there comes the > point where a "Style" is to be selected from a list but the list never > is presented. It hangs up displaying "fetching styles". > > I'm wondering if this is because before the "Custom Clock Helper" plugin > was moved to the "Unsupported" category it had a "Settings" link to the > right side. It is no longer there. If it were to be restored would that > allow the helper applet to run successfully? > Might be a bug somewhere but the intention is that Custom Clock applet should only request styles via Custom Clock Helper if its installed. If it isnt installed its supposed to get the styles directly from http://erland.github.io/squeezebox-customclock/clockstyles7.json However, there might be a bug somewhere so this isnt working properly or alternatively your Radio doesnt have access to Internet. Should be some error message in the log on the Radio that indicate what happens but I dont remember if there is an easy way to view the Radio log without login via ssh. Installing Custom Clock Helper means that the Custom Clock applet will request styles via the helper plugin. Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info)) Developer of 'many plugins/applets' (https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User_Erland.html) *Starting with LMS 8.0 I no longer support my plugins/applets* ('see here for more information' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?49483-Announce-New-versions-of-erlands-plugins=998836=1#post998836) ) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113873 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Player library views and random mix preferences interaction?
epoch1970 wrote: > I use squeezy, a Perl front end for the LMS CLI. It works fine for me > and it has a concept of player groups, or classes if you prefer, so you > can address a group of players in one go, e.g. squeezy group 1 power ? > (approximate syntax) > I use this to reset players groups in the server every morning. The > squeezy groups definitions serve as baseline and the LMS sync groups are > players found alive among the squeezy groups. > > I have rolled the squeezy calls into a truly abominable bash (what was I > thinking!) script which gets called via cron. For some rare calls I use > netcat to communicate with the CLI, if I wasnt lazy I would have had > extended squeezy itself and added some macros. > > There are other utilities similar to squeezy. > > Edit. squeezy announce post is 'here' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87636-squeezy-a-command-line-wrapper-around-the-squeezeserver-telnet-CLI)Thanks > for that.. Had a look at usage and installation instructions.. Bit of black magic too me atm.. I may eventually figure it out if I scratch my head long enough [emoji23] Would I be better off trying to run I. On raspberry pi or maybe on my NAS in docker maybe? What would you recommend..? You did mention there are other similar solutions..any particular one? I'm really only looking for basic schedule option for morning SB Radios so don't have to relly on build in alarm.. Saying that some of squeezy usage examples like auto sleep at night sound tempting ;p Thanks 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113861 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
I think your change needs some more tweaking. Could you please try the following: Code: # Check allowed hosts if ( !Slim::Utils::Network::ip_is_host($tmpaddr) + && !($prefsServer->get('filterHosts') || Slim::Utils::Network::isAllowedHost($tmpaddr)) && $prefsServer->get('protectSettings') && !$prefsServer->get('authorize') && ( Slim::Utils::Network::ip_is_gateway($tmpaddr) || Slim::Utils::Network::ip_on_different_network($tmpaddr) ) ) { Michael "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!" (LMS: Settings/Information) mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.1.1 released!
zordaz wrote: > Is this bug already solved in other branches? Can't find it in the Git > Commit log, it is rather awkward that you have to check for updates > manually for updates via the plugin page. working here 33274 33275 All tough, I have in the past, seen a similar reluctance for bothe the Plugin and Server update notification to appera on the LMS Home gui :(:confused: Nothing to really sweat about, with the Plugin Update I always got a restart notification when I next visited the Plugin page :) ronnie +---+ |Filename: update ready 2.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33275| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113672 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
I have come up with a patch for this to get the CLI plugin to take allowedHosts in to account. Code: # diff -u Plugin.pm /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin/CLI/Plugin.pm --- Plugin.pm 2021-02-07 15:16:17.312289873 + +++ /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin/CLI/Plugin.pm 2021-02-07 15:21:54.397092988 + @@ -243,7 +243,7 @@ my $tmpaddr = inet_ntoa($client_socket->peeraddr); # Check allowed hosts - if ( !Slim::Utils::Network::ip_is_host($tmpaddr) + if ( !Slim::Utils::Network::ip_is_host($tmpaddr) && !Slim::Utils::Network::isAllowedHost($tmpaddr) && $prefsServer->get('protectSettings') && !$prefsServer->get('authorize') && ( Slim::Utils::Network::ip_is_gateway($tmpaddr) || Slim::Utils::Network::ip_on_different_network($tmpaddr) ) ) { So long as the CLI client is in the allowedHosts list, it should be accepted. This was literally my first attempt at patching this and it seems to have worked. I've just noticed that comment, "Check allowed hosts".did this code used to have a check in here for this??? troffasky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.1.1 released!
Apesbrain wrote: > I've noticed on the 8.1+ versions of LMS that I no longer get the > message at the bottom of the default UI when "Plugins have updated. > Restart required." I only see this notice if I go to the "Settings" > > "Plugins" page which means I often am unaware. This on latest version > of Chrome/Win 10. Thanks. Is this bug already solved in other branches? Can't find it in the Git Commit log, it is rather awkward that you have to check for updates manually for updates via the plugin page. *Living Room:* HifiBerry DAC+ Pro & piCorePlayer *Attic:* HifiBerry DAC+ RCA & piCorePlayer *Other rooms:* 6x SB Radio *LMS*: Version 8.1.x on Xubuntu 20.04LTS zordaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113672 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Multiple albums of same name (but different releases) in library
touchmatt wrote: > I recently got a Raspberry Pi 4 for Home Assistant. Perhaps I can play > around and try to install LMS on it as well. I will need to dive into > this and spend some time on that, perhaps the issue has been fixed. In > any case, thank you so far. If you have a spare SD card burn piCorePlayer onto it and add LMS point it at Synology via NFS. Probably have it working in 30 minutes. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113858 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Player library views and random mix preferences interaction?
Jaca wrote: > Nice, Michael is the man [emoji106]. > Out of interest what are you using to send commands to Lms, CLI? I use squeezy, a Perl front end for the LMS CLI. It works fine for me and it has a concept of player groups, or classes if you prefer, so you can address a group of players in one go, e.g. squeezy group 1 power ? (approximate syntax) I use this to reset players groups in the server every morning. The squeezy groups definitions serve as baseline and the LMS groups are players found alive among the squeezy groups. I have rolled the squeezy calls into a truly abominable bash (what was I thinking!) script which gets called via cron. For some rare calls I use netcat to communicate with the CLI, if I wasnt lazy I would have had extended squeezy itself and add some macros. There are other utilities similar to squeezy. 2 SB 3 1 PCP 6 Libratone Loop, Zipp, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113861 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on multi-homed hosts
Yes, stick it on the list of things that don't make any difference :-) Every LMS service is already listening on * anyway: cliaddr unset: Code: # lsof -i -n | grep LISTEN | grep squeez squeezebo 4193133 squeezeboxserver8u IPv4 998619746 0t0 TCP *:3483 (LISTEN) squeezebo 4193133 squeezeboxserver 18u IPv4 998624279 0t0 TCP *:9090 (LISTEN) squeezebo 4193133 squeezeboxserver 25u IPv4 998624352 0t0 TCP *:43447 (LISTEN) squeezebo 4193133 squeezeboxserver 28u IPv4 998624358 0t0 TCP *:9000 (LISTEN) cliaddr set Code: # lsof -i -n | grep LISTEN | grep squeez squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver8u IPv4 998654547 0t0 TCP *:3483 (LISTEN) squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 18u IPv4 998654548 0t0 TCP 192.168.1.3:9090 (LISTEN) squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 25u IPv4 998654621 0t0 TCP *:36413 (LISTEN) squeezebo 21250 squeezeboxserver 26u IPv4 998654625 0t0 TCP *:9000 (LISTEN) cliaddr is not compared to anything in Plugin/CLI/Plugin.pm so doesn't appear to be regarded in terms of access control. I modified Plugin/CLI/Plugin.pm to print cliaddr as well as listenerport so I can be absolutely sure it was taking notice of the cliaddr parameter [was unneccesary in the end because lsof -i tells what is happening]: Code: [21-02-07 11:32:48.3015] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::initPlugin (86) Initializing [21-02-07 11:32:48.3018] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_change (185) Begin Function [21-02-07 11:32:48.3019] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_open (159) Opening on 9090 on 192.168.1.3 [21-02-07 11:32:48.3022] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_open (178) Now accepting connections on port 9090 [21-02-07 11:32:48.4621] Slim::Utils::PluginDownloader::checkForUpdates (284) generating apps query to find latest plugin state [21-02-07 11:32:48.4673] main::init (600) Server Jive init... ... [21-02-07 11:32:48.4993] main::init (667) Server done init... [21-02-07 11:32:51.1300] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_accept (227) Begin Function [21-02-07 11:32:51.1392] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_accept (250) Access to CLI is restricted to the local network or localhost: 192.168.1.43 troffasky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113868 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Player library views and random mix preferences interaction?
epoch1970 wrote: > Michael not only clarified but he 'fixed the problem' > (https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/d317f804d6972c3454eb4d9d98203937d1a3d158). > Now your preference in the Random Mix page overrides the virtual library > the player might be using. > Yay no more empty random playlists! > Much appreciated, thanks.Nice, Michael is the man [emoji106]. Out of interest what are you using to send commands to Lms, CLI? It's been years since last time I tried to do some automation and it could be now useful with buggy Radio alarm clock (when in stereo pair) is there anywhere list of available commands? How to best approach it? I was thinking of tasker or similar on android but also have RPi running 24/7 which would probably be better.. Thanks 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113861 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.1.1 released!
Kuro wrote: > Using Roon, I noticed that sometimes there are 2 albums, one with > 16/44.1 and the other one with MQA, but also labelled with something > like 24/48K FLAC. > > With Roon, you see which one has the word "Master" next to the album, > but with LMS, there is no way to tell. > > I'm using the Hi-Fi subscription. > > When 2 versions of the same album are available, I tried to play both > versions, and both of them are being streamed as 44.1K to me, as seen on > my DAC. > > So if you request LOSSLESS, is there a way to capture the bit depth and > sample rate info, so that can be displayed on iPeng? Right now, all I > see is "File Format: FLAC (Tidal)". > > Would be wonderful if I can see "File Format: FLAC 24/48K" or something > like that. > > Or maybe the search function of the Tidal plug-in is not locating the > higher-res version? Tidal Masters are encoded with MQA, which requires a licence to decode which LMS doesn't have. However, playing a Masters recording on non-MQA equipment will actually give you less quality than the non Masters version due to the encoding process that's been applied - the bit that non-MQA systems can read has been processed to work with the MQA encoding, which we can't read. So, the best you get from tidal with LMS is the HiFi (CD quality) non-Masters recordings. If you want > cd quality, you need to look elsewhere. psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113672 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Player library views and random mix preferences interaction?
Jaca wrote: > Yeah I agree, tagging would be least preferable solution. I hope someone > can clarify what's going on wrong with library views so you don't have > to use another LMS instance. Michael not only clarified but he 'fixed the problem' (https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/d317f804d6972c3454eb4d9d98203937d1a3d158). Now your preference in the Random Mix page overrides the virtual library the player might be in. Yay no more empty random playlists! Much appreciated, thanks. 2 SB 3 1 PCP 6 Libratone Loop, Zipp, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113861 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter