Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't get Tidal plugin to work

2022-11-08 Thread tushma


Solved by itself!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server does not scan OPUS file from my UNRAID server

2022-11-08 Thread Michael Herger

The docker app has only 2 versions of LMS
1. dlandon's repository
2. snoopy86's repository.


Can't you use any Docker image from Dockerub? I'd recommend you use the 
official LMS image instead. Or you'll have to ask dlandon to update his.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server does not scan OPUS file from my UNRAID server

2022-11-08 Thread HerculePirate


This Logitech Media Server is installed on my UNRAID Server.
The docker app has only 2 versions of LMS
1. dlandon's repository
2. snoopy86's repository.

I have installed dlandon's LMS.
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.3 on macOS Ventura

2022-11-08 Thread sgmlaw


psmciner...@comcast.net wrote: 
> Well, I persisted with the balky receivers and finally got the
> controller properly connected. Thanks very much to Michael and sgmlaw
> for their help and encouragement.
> 
> Dan McInerney

Glad to hear it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] High resolution FLACs (192/24) stuttering during playback

2022-11-08 Thread sgmlaw

rbl wrote: 
> I'm trying to play high resolution 192/24 FLACs via LMS 8.1.2 on a Pi4
> to two wired SB3s. Playback breaks up every couple of minutes. Why is
> this? I am happy for it to just transcode to 48/16 by simply discarding
> the extra information.

The RPi is having to transcode those streams down on the fly to a
reduced bitstream to accommodate the SB3s.  And the 4s are prone to run
hot to begin with.  I would make sure the Pi has adequate cooling and is
not periodically throttling down under load, as they sometimes do.  That
could cause streaming interruptions.  

If everything is connected via Ethernet, there should be no other
bottlenecks for what should be a 705 kbps stream, even in a 10/100
network.

If all you have are SB3s, I would just recode it down to 44/16 wav using
dbPoweramp, and relieve both ends from having to do any meaningful
processing work.  A Redbook wav file in 2022 is pocket change for
storage and streaming purposes and plays on anything with no headaches.

I remember the heated arguments here a couple decades ago over flac vs.
wav, when people were struggling with 400GB HDDs and 802.11g routers. 
With today’s 4k video files and 20TB drives, those arguments are now
quaint in hindsight.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins update when not selected

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Webster


Tried it today with 8.4 using Default skin and the fix worked well.
I'll try with Material next time I see 2+ plugin updates available at
the same time.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.3.0 released

2022-11-08 Thread pablolie


It's awesome! Upgrade on my Win10 main workstation worked flawlessly,
will do Linux later this week. 

It is so incredible that over 10 years after Logi discontinued the
platform we still have such a great development team.



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Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF
Reference 1
Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Touch-> NAD D7050 -> KEF
LS50 + Velodyne Minivee Sub
Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.3.0 released

2022-11-08 Thread Zombie


Thank you mherger and all others for this!



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] High resolution FLACs (192/24) stuttering during playback

2022-11-08 Thread rbl


I'm trying to play high resolution 192/24 FLACs via LMS 8.1.2 on a Pi4
to two wired SB3s. Playback breaks up every couple of minutes. Why is
this? I am happy for it to just transcode to 48/16 by simply discarding
the extra information.



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subwoofer
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread kidstypike


tonymac wrote: 
> Desperately trying to follow all your advice! I will be out for most of
> the day, but have taken your advice again and have added 2 files to zip
> folder but they will still not upload to forum. Any further advice
> posted in my absence will be appreciated


You need to upload the music files to such as Dropbox, then supply a
link in one of your posts for interested parties to download them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread tonymac


d6jg wrote: 
> in post 26 -
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?117009-Missing-Music=1064326=1#post1064326
> - you posted a screenshot of some of your Qmultimedia/MUSIC library -
> are there any folders shown in that screenshot that don't play?

Desperately trying to follow all your advice! I will be out for most of
the day, but have taken your advice again and have added 2 files to zip
folder but they will still not upload to forum. Any further advice
posted in my absence will be appreciated



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg


tonymac wrote: 
> Sorry gents, this is a little beyond my understanding really - could you
> please elaborate, so I'm not chasing my tail please?Squeezeboxserver is
> a member of admin. Chmod is beyond me sorry

Tony that was just me explaining something about QNAP to Paul. No need
for you to do anything at this stage.

Can you scroll back and answer the earlier questions?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread tonymac


d6jg wrote: 
> Yes if switched on then ssh is available and I think it will be here as
> WinSCP uses it and Tony has said he has used that.
> The default super user on a QNAP is "admin" which is a member of the
> group "administrators" - so "admin.administrators" is the same as
> "root.root" (UID 0, GID 0).
> From memory when I did run LMS on a QNAP the user was "squeezeboxserver"
> but a member of "administrators"
> In Samba you created a user "jim" and made that a member of
> "administrators" then everything you wrote from Windows got the correct
> GID for LMS to see.
> I do remember an upgrade breaking something where I had to chmod on a
> lot of files but I don't remember the specifics.
> Here I am wondering whether Tony has repsonded to the QNAP firmware nag
> about default admin user and switched it off - which was the
> recommendation - and perhaps this has caused a change to the group
> structure?

Sorry gents, this is a little beyond my understanding really - could you
please elaborate, so I'm not chasing my tail please?Squeezeboxserver is
a member of admin. Chmod is beyond me sorry



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't get Tidal plugin to work

2022-11-08 Thread tushma


Im on Catalina, SB Touch, got hifi tidal account, worked fine a year
ago, now LMS says i need premium and hifi account and wont let me to
open Tidal. Everything seems fine on mysqueezebox.com, and Tidal.com.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.3 on macOS Ventura

2022-11-08 Thread psmciner...@comcast.net


sgmlaw wrote: 
> When you say the green light is on, I presume it is not the green light
> on the Receiver.  A sustained green light on the Receiver is a problem,
> and indicates it is awaiting a DHCP assignment.
> 
> "PSU" means "power supply unit".  In the case of most all Squeezeboxes
> made (excepting the Transporter, and that has it's own internal 5v PSU
> issues), that is the external plug in wall wart that supplies the device
> its power.  Many of these wall warts have been in service well past
> their design lives.  With increasing age, 90% of present Squeezebox
> problems can be traced back to a weak and/or failing PSU.  If still
> original, it can go at any time.  The good news is, most all are easily
> replaceable with generic units available on Ebay and many electronics
> supply houses.  I always keep an assortment of spare PSUs on hand.  
> 
> Just be sure to match up the appropriate output voltage, amperage, and
> the correct plug configuration for your player.  My recollection is that
> the Receiver uses a 9v/1A or better, center-positive, 1.05mm x 3.5mm
> supply.  If you cannot find an exact fit, the absolute worst case is
> that you can splice the old power connector to a new 9v PSU.
> 
> I would not abandon the SB ecosystem over a balky Receiver.  As
> streaming platforms go, the community supported LMS one is still quite
> good, with a virtually insignificant resource footprint, and free.  I
> tried Roon.  IMO, it is way overpriced and a resource pig.  Hopefully,
> Roon eventually figured out how to stream Internet radio stations,
> something LMS does easily.  Conversely, you can run LMS off a Raspberry
> Pi, a $30 mini computer smaller than a pack of cigarettes. 
> 
> If you give up on the balky Receiver, a Touch is a much better, more
> versatile player, and those now routinely sell for under $150 used.  Or
> cheaper still is a Raspberry Pi client.  Get iPeng on your phone or pad
> to run it, and you're all set.

Well, I persisted with the balky receivers and finally got the
controller properly connected. Thanks very much to Michael and sgmlaw
for their help and encouragement.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Ah - didn’t spot that.
> Is ssh (or similar) available - as root or equivalent?
> 
> Could try commands using same account as LMS runs under to see if issue
> can be repeated.
> If it can then at least it would show that this is not directly LMS
> application issue.
> 
> ls -lrt 
> on the folders might show something odd that is not visible in other
> tools

Yes if switched on then ssh is available and I think it will be here as
WinSCP uses it and Tony has said he has used that.
The default super user on a QNAP is "admin" which is a member of the
group "administrators" - so "admin.administrators" is the same as
"root.root" (UID 0, GID 0).
>From memory when I did run LMS on a QNAP the user was "squeezeboxserver"
but a member of "administrators"
In Samba you created a user "jim" and made that a member of
"administrators" then everything you wrote from Windows got the correct
GID for LMS to see.
I do remember an upgrade breaking something where I had to chmod on a
lot of files but I don't remember the specifics.
Here I am wondering whether Tony has repsonded to the QNAP firmware nag
about default admin user and switched it off - which was the
recommendation - and perhaps this has caused a change to the group
structure?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Webster

Ah - didn’t spot that.
Is ssh (or similar) available - as root or equivalent?

Could try commands using same account as LMS runs under to see if issue
can be repeated.
If it can then at least it would show that this is not directly LMS
application issue.

ls -lrt 
on the folders might show something odd that is not visible in other
tools



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg


Paul Webster wrote: 
> See my earlier suggestion - it was from Synology themselves

It is a QNAP Paul. 
Similar but not exactly the same.
Higher end NAS users tend to fall into 2 camps. QNAP or Synology. We use
QNAP both internally and have numerous customers' who have them but as I
said above I stopped running LMS directly on one ages ago.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg


in post 26 -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?117009-Missing-Music=1064326=1#post1064326
- you posted a screenshot of some of your Qmultimedia/MUSIC library -
are there any folders shown in that screenshot that don't play?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg

Redrum wrote: 
> Im not following Jim's (d6jg) suggestion. You mentioned it's the folders
> that cannot be navigated to, right? So, you can take, say files from
> inside the problem folder and copy them to the working folders, scan,
> and LMS finds them right (because it can browse to working folder)?
> 
> Similarly, move some files from working to problem and see if they
> disappear (they will)
> 
> My point being, I had thought this was a folder problem
> 
> Jim

Tony said that the user / group and permissions on a non working folder
are identical to a working folder when looked at with WinSCP.  If that
is really correct from top level down then LMS should be able to see
them but apparently it can’t.

Although Tony doesn’t say so explicitly the QNAP must be fairly old -
top level being called Qmultimedia not Multimedia as it is on latest
models - but in order to run LMS must be using digimaster’s package and
must be fairly powerful. One thing that has changed in recent firmware
is a nag that tells you when you are using the default admin account and
suggests you change it. Tony - did you follow that advice?

I don’t use LMS directly on my QNAP and haven’t done for years largely
for this sort of reason. I can’t run digimaster’s package as my QNAP
isn’t powerful enough but it is perfectly good as a file store. Hence I
run LMS on another machine and point it at the files on the NAS. I also
have a Pi4 running pCP as a dev server pointed at the QNAP so I would
totally endorse the suggestion that Jim makes in this regard.

However as you say it was working ok so something has changed and it
probably is really simple. It may be a good idea to seek advice in
digimaster’s QNAP thread. My money is still on a subtle change on the
QNAP in relation to user or group rights and how the files have been
written from Windows to the QNAP.

Nevertheless It is possible that the files themselves have been created
differently and aren’t valid in Linux terms but are to Windows.

To upload a couple put them in a Zip file.

Just to recap. 
1. If you run a clear and rescan you get exactly the same results?
2. If you place a non working file into a working folder can LMS see and
play the file?
3. What is your folder path structure - Qmultimedia/Music/Artist/Album -
or are there sub folders between Music and Artist?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Webster


See my earlier suggestion - it was from Synology themselves



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> 
> 
> .When it comes to allocating user access to the sub folders within the
> MUSIC folder on the USB , my NAS does not allow sub folder permissions
> on external drives

maybe try just putting a bunch of music files in the root directory on
the external drive?

Also, this is a wild a$$ shot in the dark, but is it possible that your
NAS restricts hierarchy levels on your drive (similar to stick), and the
problem folders are deeper than the working, so access is restricted?
Something is preventing LMS to browse to the problem folder(s)

e.g. drive:
music/working
music/another folder/another folder/problem

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> Jim just tried - .flac and .mp3 do not appear to be valid file
> extensions on the forum, cannot upload

Im not following Jim's (d6jg) suggestion. You mentioned it's the folders
that cannot be navigated to, right? So, you can take, say files from
inside the problem folder and copy them to the working folders, scan,
and LMS finds them right (because it can browse to working folder)?

Similarly, move some files from working to problem and see if they
disappear (they will)

My point being, I had thought this was a folder problem

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread tonymac


Redrum wrote: 
> I'll have to defer to others to help you with uninstall on your NAS, I
> have zero knowledge/experience.
> 
> If it were me, I would hate to give up as it is bound to be something
> little, right? But, if you do decide you want to stop beating your head
> against the wall, I would suggest getting a raspberry pi (if you can
> find one, or second hand) and run picoreplayer (pcp) as a LMS server
> only (which is what I do). Then you can point the pcp to the NAS
> (similar to what your PC is doing). Run the pcp 24/7 (like your NAS)
> it's low power consumption, and fits your desire to not have the PC on
> to listen.
> 
> Most would suggest that you get a pi4, but I have both a 4 and the 3b+
> and the 3b+ runs fine. <$100 USD (on ebay, less if you can find one
> through an auth reseller) and your problem is solved. Plus, if you want,
> you can use the pi as another squeezelite player.
> 
> The one other option that I know nothing about, is running LMS in a
> docker. I am wondering if this would inadvertently solve your problem.
> 
> Finally, I had suggested a while back - can you insert a USB stick of
> music in your NAS and see if NAS LMS finds it? If it does, it's
> something specific to how your NAS sees your drive vs the stick
> (permissions, etc)
> 
> Jim

Jim,

Don't weant to give up yet! I have taken on board your suggestion of a
Raspberry unit if all else fails. Also tried your USB suggestion with
some files. Although the folder on USB can be seen and selected by LMS a
scan does not make them availabe to see or play? When it comes to
allocating user access to the sub folders within the MUSIC folder on the
USB , my NAS does not allow sub folder permissions on external drives



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> Forget Revo Uninstaller - that's for Windows software.
> 
> 

Thanks, and again, I know nothing about NAS, and I said "like" revo. (as
in similar to). Is there an alternate he can try?

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread tonymac


d6jg wrote: 
> Forget Revo Uninstaller - that's for Windows software.
> 
> Can you upload a couple of example files that the NAS can't see so that
> we can look to see if there is anything weird about them

Jim just tried - .flac and .mp3 do not appear to be valid file
extensions on the forum, cannot upload



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> I have uninstalled/reinstalled LMS from my NAS a few times since the
> problem began without any joy. Admittedly the uninstalls took place
> using 'Applications' built into the NAs and not Revo Uninstaller. Would
> be prepared to try that route if someone can tell me how?

I'll have to defer to others to help you with uninstall on your NAS, I
have zero knowledge/experience.

If it were me, I would hate to give up as it is bound to be something
little, right? But, if you do decide you want to stop beating your head
against the wall, I would suggest getting a raspberry pi (if you can
find one, or second hand) and run picoreplayer (pcp) as a LMS server
only (which is what I do). Then you can point the pcp to the NAS
(similar to what your PC is doing). Run the pcp 24/7 (like your NAS)
it's low power consumption, and fits your desire to not have the PC on
to listen.

Most would suggest that you get a pi4, but I have both a 4 and the 3b+
and the 3b+ runs fine. <$100 USD (on ebay, less if you can find one
through an auth reseller) and your problem is solved. Plus, if you want,
you can use the pi as another squeezelite player.

The one other option that I know nothing about, is running LMS in a
docker. I am wondering if this would inadvertently solve your problem.

Finally, I had suggested a while back - can you insert a USB stick of
music in your NAS and see if NAS LMS finds it? If it does, it's
something specific to how your NAS sees your drive vs the stick
(permissions, etc)

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread d6jg


tonymac wrote: 
> I have uninstalled/reinstalled LMS from my NAS a few times since the
> problem began without any joy. Admittedly the uninstalls took place
> using 'Applications' built into the NAs and not Revo Uninstaller. Would
> be prepared to try that route if someone can tell me how?

Forget Revo Uninstaller - that's for Windows software.

Can you upload a couple of example files that the NAS can't see so that
we can look to see if there is anything weird about them



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread tonymac


Redrum wrote: 
> Tony;
> 
> I am wondering if you have thought of uninstalling LMS from your NAS,
> and reinstalling? It shouldn't be that hard, and the biggest time
> consumer will be the initial scan. I think the key will be to get a
> complete uninstall, maybe use something like revo uninstaller.
> 
> I am thinking that you installed LMS on your NAS initially, and
> everything worked (as far as you know). Perhaps it will again. You never
> know.
> 
> Jim

I have uninstalled/reinstalled LMS from my NAS a few times since the
problem began without any joy. Admittedly the uninstalls took place
using 'Applications' built into the NAs and not Revo Uninstaller. Would
be prepared to try that route if someone can tell me how?



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