Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
bpa wrote: > You can't - it is a network setup issue - streams comes Spotify will > arrive at router go to LMS then go to router then to player, files > streamed from LMS will go from LMS to router to player. This means > twice as much wireless traffic and depending where the extender is there > could be another hop - all sharing same bandwidth (i.e only one device > can transmit at a time). > > I also meant you should treat the ALAC issue as totally separate from > the Spotify one until there is clear evidence to show they are the same > problem. Thanks, I didn't think there was a way of separating Spotify traffic, now I understand you meant separate the issues, not the traffic Anyway, I've stopped using the extender so that's one less hop. If it starts misbehaving again, I'll have to monitor what else is on the network when it does it. We don't play games or stream video except occasionally iPlayer, so there shouldn't be much traffic except for my music. S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
bpa wrote: > I would separate ALAC & Flac from Spotify when using a wireless LMS as > whern using a wireless LMS there will be 2 wireless hops streaming > unlike direct streaming from LMS to a player with one hop. > > That makes sense, but how do I do that? > > One of the reasons for asking about log was to see if there was > something odd with ALAC handling - e.g transcoding to PCM. Disabling > native SBT ALAC is probably a good idea as there used to be issues > playing ALAC natively although not sure whether that changed sometime. If I've understood the logs correctly, they show ALAC streamed as FLAC. I haven't tried going back to the 'enabled' setting for ALAC streaming. S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
Well, it's been two days, and it hasn't gone wrong once, whether playing ALAC FLAC or Spotify. Still on 7.9.1, and with ALAC streaming disabled, so hope it's OK now. I've taken the LMS PC off the extender, and it's now running on the router direct, albeit still wifi as I can't get cables routed for ethernet. I'll leave it like this now, and try and upgrade to 7.9.2 if it doesn't misbehave in the next week or two. Ho hum. S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
bpa wrote: > It "feels" like the player is running out of data for some tracks as > player buffers are initially filled and then topped up as playing > continues. If buffers cannot be topped up in time - player will stop. > > How is the SBT connected to LMS ? wired / wireless / extension / > homeplug etc. > > Can failure be repeated everytime with a specific track ? Thanks for replying. I did some more investigating last night and this morning. Firstly, a track that stops after 31 seconds will do it at the same point if I go back and play it again. However, if I play the track on my tablet, using Squeezeplay (Jive) to simulate an SBT, and therefore still using LMS, the track plays fine. This got me thinking. The tracks that stop have only ever been ALAC files, not FLAC. (Not sure why a Spotify file seemed to have done it once, can't replicate that) Looking at various forum posts, the SBT allegedly decodes ALAC badly, whilst my tablet presumably doesn't have a problem with ALAC. So I checked the configuration of LMS, and found that I had ALAC and FLAC both set to Native streams , which presumably means the decoding would be done locally in the SBT. I have changed the File Types configuration such that the ALAC files stream is disabled, and therefore presumably LMS goes to the next in the menu which is to stream ALAC as FLAC using faad/sox. Spotty streams are set to stream as FLAC using spotty.exe/flac There's a lot of 'presumably' here as I'm not totally sure how LMS works! Next step is to try again with a long playlist of both ALAC and FLAC files and see if it still occasionally stops at 31 seconds. Thanks for everyone's interest. If it fails again I'll be back, if not, I'll update the thread in a day or two. S. Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
Sergeauckland wrote: > So far it's always been a alac track from my music library, but last > night it was doing it on Spotify. > > This morning I've put it back to 7.9.1 and it's been OK so far on alac > tracks. Haven't tried Spotify yet. > > If it does it again, I'll look at the log file. > S Well, it's done it again on a ALAC track. I can't see anything on the server log that makes any reference to the track that stops at 31 seconds. Here's the last few entries Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [21:24:59.4205] Use of uninitialized value $moduleId in concatenation (.) or string at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SongInfo/Plugin.pm line 335. Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [21:24:59.4210] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SongInfo/Plugin.pm line 335. Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [21:24:59.4223] Use of uninitialized value $moduleId in hash element at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SongInfo/Plugin.pm line 334. Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [21:24:59.4229] Use of uninitialized value $moduleId in concatenation (.) or string at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SongInfo/Plugin.pm line 335. Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [21:24:59.4233] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/SongInfo/Plugin.pm line 335. These are just a few of the dozens of identical entries from 21:11 hours onwards. All the ALAC tracks were ripped years ago when I was using iTunes as my ripper. In the past few years, I've used EAC as my ripper and save as FLAC. However the problem has only existed in the past few days, previously ALAC has played perfectly, and even now, most ALAC tracks play fine, just a few stop after 31 seconds. Thanks for any suggestions. S. Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
Man in a van wrote: > Next time it happens look in the server log, is it a flac or alac track > that causes the problem ? > > ronnie So far it's always been a alac track from my music library, but last night it was doing it on Spotify. This morning I've put it back to 7.9.1 and it's been OK so far on alac tracks. Haven't tried Spotify yet. If it does it again, I'll look at the log file. S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
Man in a van wrote: > Hi Serge, hope all is well :) > > which OS is your local LMS running on ? > > ronnie Hi Ronnie, yes very well, thanks. LMS on Windows 10, and it's been fine until the update to 7.9.2 S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
Further to the above, I've now updated LMS to 7.9.3, but with the same result. I've also confirmed it'a doing the same on Spotify, albeit not at 30 seconds in, more at random. The SBT didn't show an update available, just LMS. Really annoying, so any ideas very welcome. S Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox Touch stops playing a track after about 30 secs and goes on to next track
A few days ago I did an update to 7.9.2 and activated Spotty as I got a Spotify subscription. I also updated the software on the SBT itself. Since then, I get the occasional (perhaps one in 10) tracks that won't play past around 30 seconds and the SBT goes on to the next track. My music library is a mixture of ALAC and FLAC, all at 44.1/16. If I play that track again, it still stops at the same point each time. This has so far only happened with my own music, not Spotify, but I haven't used that enough to know if Spotify also has the problem. Any ideas? Thanks S. Sergeauckland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111666 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
