Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
pippin wrote: > Clear takes much longer for me. More like two hours. Just by way of comparison: 1300 albums: 23k tracks (mostly flacs) residing on a local SSD -- macOS. Clear & Rescan takes about 2min 30 secs, including searching for Artist pictures. The computer is a 2010 Mac Mini. rlsx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12092 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
It's a completely "stock" install of LMS, meaning I haven't tweaked the memory parameter yet ;) Please let us know about the results after upping the memory to the max. What level is it now? "High" or "normal"? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
Below my results on an up-board (http://www.up-board.org/up/, 2GB RAM, Intel Atom x5-Z8350 CPU) for a library that's quite a bit larger ... It's a completely "stock" install of LMS, meaning I haven't tweaked the memory parameter yet ;) 22244 +---+ |Filename: SNAG-0581.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22244| +---+ Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Car: BananaPi LMS + Squeezeplayer on Android phone - Controller TBD ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
Mnyb wrote: > Try 7.9.1 it is a bit faster . Is there really a 7.9.*1* or is that a typo? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
A lot of the delay is I/O, so local libraries on SSD or at least HDD well and truly beats networked libraries. If it bothers you move the archive; put some storage on your LMS box and provide it a local copy of your media. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
But it still searches for the ones it hasn't found, which can take a while, too. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
-Only download pictures for main artists, but not all contributors (composers, conductors etc.- I just tried enabling the -Find artwork online during library scan- option and it increased the scan time by 3-4 times. This is needless, since all my files have artwork. The artist pictures shown in iPeng must be downloaded without this enabled, since they appear in my Artist and Album Artist menu in iPeng. Well, you trade scan time performance against run time performance. The scan will be faster but then the plugin will download the images when you need them. Plus: if you store the images in a folder for future use, the plugin would use them without checking online. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
jfo wrote: > It's late Feb version of 7.9. My library is about 1300 CD's, all FLAC, > and 100% have art and all basic tags. I also use the M info plugin, > with this option... > Well, as discussed above, 7.9 is _way_ faster than 7.8.1 > > -Only download pictures for main artists, but not all contributors > (composers, conductors etc.- > I just tried enabling the -Find artwork online during library scan- > option and it increased the scan time by 3-4 times. This is needless, > since all my files have artwork. The artist pictures shown in iPeng > must be downloaded without this enabled, since they appear in my Artist > and Album Artist menu in iPeng. Well, you trade scan time performance against run time performance. The scan will be faster but then the plugin will download the images when you need them. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
pippin wrote: > With LMS 7.8.1? > BTW: it also depends on how much other stuff is in the library path. I > have a lot of artwork and metadata there that also gets scanned. > And I use Music Information which also searches for artist and > album artwork online, these scan phases take up more than half of the > time It's late Feb version of 7.9. My library is about 1300 CD's, all FLAC, and 100% have art and all basic tags. I also use the M info plugin, with this option... -Only download pictures for main artists, but not all contributors (composers, conductors etc.- I just tried enabling the -Find artwork online during library scan- option and it increased the scan time by 3-4 times. This is needless, since all my files have artwork. The artist pictures shown in iPeng must be downloaded without this enabled, since they appear in my Artist and Album Artist menu in iPeng. jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
With LMS 7.8.1? BTW: it also depends on how much other stuff is in the library path. I have a lot of artwork and metadata there that also gets scanned. And I use Music Information which also searches for artist and album artwork online, these scan phases take up more than half of the time --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
For a comparison, my clear/rescan takes 6 min 35 sec for about 19,000 tracks on an old Dell 2.66 ghz machine running VortexBox. jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
Anything within a power of two is not bad. It's when you find it takes 10 hours for the same file count that you may have an issue.. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
d6jg wrote: > I have a similar setup and similar sized library. 45 mins isn't at all > unreasonable for a full clear & rescan Clear takes much longer for me. More like two hours. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
pippin wrote: > But 45 minutes for a 26k track library on a NAS sounds reasonable with > 7.8.1 sounds reasonable, I'm getting similar times with gigabit Ethernet > as well. I have a similar setup and similar sized library. 45 mins isn't at all unreasonable for a full clear & rescan *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
I am never bothered by scans. In the Control Panel go to Advanced Settings. When the screen opens up click on the Advanced Button. Then Re-scan Music Library and set it to do the type of scan you want when you know you will not be listening. I run a look for new and changed media files scan daily at 2 AM while sleeping. No problem. If you add new music you want to listen to right away a look for new and changed media files scan only takes a few minutes. I am using 7.9.0. w 37k files. Even w earlier versions of LMS the look for new and changed is quick. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
For a full "look for new and changed music" run, that is. Only scanning playlists can be faster if you don't have too many --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
You can also in LMS web-UI settings > advanced tab > performance > Database Memory Config and set this to max if you ubuntu PC is recent and has >2GB of ram Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
You could do a playlist-only scan --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
Try 7.9.1 it is a bit faster . what kind of scan ? you have three types . "Scan for new and changed" "Rescan everything" "only rescan playlists" Plan ahead , add music as you go but start the scan whenever you not listening , while your busy with something else Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to reduce scanning time
Hi, I am having ~26,000 songs on my NAS. I have mounted this on my Ubuntu PC on which LMS server 7.8.1 is running. Whenever LMS rescan everything, it takes 45-60 min to scan all this songs. How can I speed up the scanning? I just want to listen my saved playlists. So, It will be okay for me if there is no meta information or as minimum as possible for songs. Discovering files/directories: /nas/Audiosongs (26106 of 26106) Complete 00:01:06 Scanning new music files: /nas/Audiosongs (26105 of 26105) Complete 00:40:14 Discovering playlists: /nas/playlist (16 of 16) Complete 00:00:01 Scanning new playlists: /nas/playlist (14 of 14) Complete 00:00:25 Pre-caching Artwork (1799 of 1799) Complete 00:06:20 The server has finished scanning your media library. Total Time: 00:48:06 (Wednesday, March 1, 2017 / 2:24 PM) immortalaxay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66649 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107048 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
