Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Herger

Ah, sorry.  macOS like you.

I never have any idea when the LMS update dialog will pop-up indicating
a download is ready to be installed.  This morning, the web interface
said there was an update available, I checked via Check for Updates, and
yes, there is an update.  Hours later, no update dialog has appeared.


It'll only check every 24h. That can be many hours later. Please 
understand that this is totally good enough for the regular user. But 
sure, if you want to have the latest and greatest build at all times, 
then that mechanism is too slow.


Improving the update mechanism admittedly is low on my priority list. In 
particular on macOS we're likely facing bigger issues, like eg. Apple 
Silicon support... Any help would greatly be appreciated!

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread MrC


mherger wrote: 
> > Currently, when you Check for Updates, or if an update is "available"
> > (you see the message in the web interface), the links take you to an
> > info page, and then offer to take you to an a page with even more
> info.
> 
> This depends on the system you're running LMS on. Each has its own 
> quirks... What OS are you using?

Ah, sorry.  macOS like you.

I never have any idea when the LMS update dialog will pop-up indicating
a download is ready to be installed.  This morning, the web interface
said there was an update available, I checked via Check for Updates, and
yes, there is an update.  Hours later, no update dialog has appeared.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread w3wilkes


I run on Windows. What I don't like is my LMS runs on a headless Windows
Server. My UI is through Material and it notifies me when there's an
update available. This is fine for plugin updates as I can do that all
through the UI. When it's an LMS update I must RDP into my server to
accomplish the update. I realize there's probably no way around the UAC
dialog, but...  If there was a way to do the update from the UI it would
be much nicer. It would also be sweet if the install had the option to
not place an icon on the desktop as I always delete it.



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Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 8.1.2 on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model
B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave
Squeezebox Boom - "At Large" player around both home and cabin
Headphones and car - Android phone/Bluetooth w/full library on MicroSD
card - PowerAmp music player app (similar to Material Skin)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread slartibartfast


markiii wrote: 
> If you run  material there isNot on all systems

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread markiii


If you run  material there is



PiCorePlayer 7.1 on Allo Digi One Signaturewith (Lounge)
PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry Dig+
(Office)
PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry
DAC+(Kitchen)
Radio  (Bedroom)
PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and USB DAC (Bedroom)
Squeezelite=x (Garage)
PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)
PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2)

LMS 8.1 on DIY Unraid 6 Server (i5)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Herger

Currently, when you Check for Updates, or if an update is "available"
(you see the message in the web interface), the links take you to an
info page, and then offer to take you to an a page with even more info.


This depends on the system you're running LMS on. Each has its own 
quirks... What OS are you using?

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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Software Updates - time to revisit?

2021-05-03 Thread MrC


Maybe it's time to revisit Check for Updates, making it more immediate,
actionable, and helpful.

Currently, when you Check for Updates, or if an update is "available"
(you see the message in the web interface), the links take you to an
info page, and then offer to take you to an a page with even more info. 
But you can't do anything from there.  From a user's perspective when
you Check for Updates, nothing happens, and it's unclear what should
happen, or what is happening in the background.  It's a tease.

If I recall correctly, LMS will download the software eventually, and
offer to install.  The problem is, that might be tomorrow, or the next
day, when yet another update is available, and the non-deterministic
waiting repeats.

Maybe this very lazy download made sense 10 years ago.  But today, the
40-50Mb is trivial, and there should be an Update Now button that starts
the process for users.

I'm using LMS 8.2 nightly, and so go manually download the update
anyway.  I have no idea if LMS had already downloaded it, often it has,
and so the downloads are doubled, and sometimes the installation
requires two runs.

Any possibility that entire procedure can be advanced to modern
practices?



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