Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-12 Thread chill


Something like 'this'
(https://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/products/extensions-and-networking/micro-usb-hub-v2)
ought to fit inside I would have thought.  Ok, so it would need a bit of
soldering to attach USB sockets to those 4-pin headers, but it does look
very compact. 

[image:
https://www.yoctopuce.com/projects/micro-HubV2/img/illustr-micro-usb-multi-TT-1-big.jpg]



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-12 Thread jimbobvfr400


chill wrote: 
> I'll have to have a look inside one of my spares.  I wonder what's the
> smallest USB hub you can buy, and would there be room inside, so that
> you could keep the wifi?

Not sure about a hub but it's quite roomy, the wifi card is
significantly bigger than most USB sticks. I did originally consider a
hub so I could use a USB DAC and memory stick but ended up doing a mod
to add a toslink port for connection to a DAC instead.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-12 Thread chill


jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
> If you don't need the Wifi theres a USB slot inside the Joggler you can
> use, the wifi is a USB card plugged into an internal USB socket.
> If you leave the screws out the screen will still clip on securely but
> is easy to unclip if needed so it's easy to access the card.

I'll have to have a look inside one of my spares.  I wonder what's the
smallest USB hub you can buy, and would there be room inside, so that
you could keep the wifi?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-12 Thread jimbobvfr400


chill wrote: 
> As an aside, I resisted the move to external USB installations because I
> didn't like the thought of having USB sticks poking out of the side of
> my Jogglers.  But a 'flash drive such as this one'
> (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MDXBT87) is barely visible, and
> saves the wear on the internal flash memory.  They even allow you to
> continue using a Joggler that has terminal problems with the internal
> flash.

If you don't need the Wifi theres a USB slot inside the Joggler you can
use, the wifi is a USB card plugged into an internal USB socket.
If you leave the screws out the screen will still clip on securely but
is easy to unclip if needed so it's easy to access the card.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-11 Thread Heuer


Have been running Jive Lite on two Jogglers for a couple of hours and
everything is working properly.

Many thanks to chill for the work he did on this, saved me a lot of
agonising!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-10 Thread Heuer


Running Jivelite internal. Will give it a test but at the moment it
seems OK in that I can skip forward 10 or more tracks without a crash.
Thanks for the heads up!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-10 Thread Heuer


SqueezePlay for OpenFrame V7.8 from Birds Like Wires. Ubuntu Bionic
Kernel 5.4. LMS 8.1.1

I am now running it on a USB stick and it is more stable in that it only
crashes to the command prompt rather than corrupt the internal. I can
either ssh in and reboot or pull the plug and it re-loads and goes back
online.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-10 Thread d6jg


Heuer wrote: 
> Only being used as a controller - no audio. I was wondering if there is
> any debugging log I can get running to trap what happens. Would I be
> better putting this on the Joggler Forum?

Is this the Squeezeplay OS image that chill put together with the player
element removed or a stock OS from Birds Like Wires?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-10 Thread Man in a van


Heuer wrote: 
> Only being used as a controller - no audio. I was wondering if there is
> any debugging log I can get running to trap what happens. Would I be
> better putting this on the Joggler Forum?

It won't hurt, but don't hold your breath :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-10 Thread Heuer


Only being used as a controller - no audio. I was wondering if there is
any debugging log I can get running to trap what happens. Would I be
better putting this on the Joggler Forum?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-09 Thread d6jg


Heuer wrote: 
> Failed after 28 songs!
> 
> Anyone know of any debugging measures?

Is the Joggler using analogue or USB out?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-09 Thread Heuer


Failed after 28 songs!

Anyone know of any debugging measures?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-09 Thread Heuer


I have that plugin but I am going to try changing the default 'Show
Upcoimg Songs' and 'Show Played' from 20 and 5 to 2 and 0. Something is
causing some sort of memory issue I think so once I have reflashed this
Joggler I will give it a try and report back.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-08 Thread Paul Webster


If you enable the "What was that song?" plugin then LMS will keep a
record for you of which songs were played ... so you might then find
that the last one listed is the one causing the problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-08 Thread Heuer


Well, it happened again! It has been working perfectly for the last few
days listening to Radio Paradise. This afternoon I decided to do a
Random Song Mix and it crashed back to the command line. Joggler now
stuck in a boot loop.

Anyone care to try Random Song Mix with a Joggler on 8.1.1 or 8.1.2?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-06 Thread Heuer


Paul Webster wrote: 
> 
> Perhaps something is making Jivelite run out of memory or use up all
> file handles and somehow this causes a problem in the OS which then
> results in a currupted file system ... but I would not expect that an
> application like Jivelite should be able to corrupt things that badly.

I think you are on the right lines there Paul. One Joggler was running
Random Song Mix so different artwork with each track, and it
consistently failed trying to open the fourth track. The other Joggler
was streaming Greatest Hits Radio so the station logo did not change but
the artist and song titles did. That one would stay working for over an
hour before crashing as the buffer presumably filled up a lot slower?

I redeployed my RPi from LMS to Pi-Hole and Unifi Controller duties and
as I have an 'always on' PC for security cameras and Emby media server
it seemed to make sense.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-06 Thread Heuer


Been running 24 hours now with no problems. Both Jogglers are running as
controllers rather than players. As I earlier suspected the problem
seems to be on LMS for Windows and I guess most Joggler users, being
gadget's, use Linux.

I wonder if any other instances of Squeezeplayer on other devices are
affected?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread d6jg


I have 4 Jogglers running with the latest version of 8.2 on Linux. 1 is
operating as a player, the other 3 are controllers / now playing
displays for other players.
No I such issues seen here.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread Heuer


OK, an hour in and both Jogglers are working fine with the V8.1.1 14th
Jan release. Looks like V8.1.2 is rogue.

Find it hard to grasp that a version of LMS can reap such devastation on
the Jogglers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread Heuer


I first saw the problem with LogitechMediaServer-8.1.2-167469 so
happened between that and 8.1.0. Only release inbetween was 8.1.1 on
14th January. Until someone figures out the problem I will stick with
the current version as my Jogglers memory chips have taken quite a
hammering.

I am curious why no one else has seen it, presumably all running LMS on
a RPi?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread chill


Heuer wrote: 
> ... and a re-flash is required, and the number of times that can be done
> is limited

As an aside, I resisted the move to external USB installations because I
didn't like the thought of having USB sticks poking out of the side of
my Jogglers.  But a 'flash drive such as this one'
(https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MDXBT87) is barely visible, and
saves the wear on the internal flash memory.  They even allow you to
continue using a Joggler that has terminal problems with the internal
flash.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread CJS


The officially released version of LMS 8.1.1 is version 8.1.1 -
1610364019 that was released on Jan 14. This version is also offered for
download at www.mysqueezebox.com.
It would be good to know if this version corrupts the Joggler.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread Paul Webster


This
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/fc42e0f1a87ba5c2d1e4db3e3654c26fc0bb94ed
from Jan 24th (and previous from Jan 23rd) was the specific Joggler
induced change.

Since your Joggler is working with a version of 8.1.1 that is older than
that then it means that your JiveLite/SqueezePlay is more recent than
7.8.0 so ... I think ... that means that this particular change is not
the cause of the problem.

There are more recent builds of 8.1.1 that yours from December so
perhaps you could run with an up-to-date 8.1.1 and see if the problem
returns.

Still difficult to understand what is causing it though.
Perhaps something is making Jivelite run out of memory or use up all
file handles and somehow this causes a problem in the OS which then
results in a currupted file system ... but I would not expect that an
application like Jivelite should be able to corrupt things that badly.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread Heuer


All ready have Paul. Running LMS Version: 8.1.1 - 1609139162 from Dec
28th and everything is working properly although I am now having to
re-flash one of the Jogglers as I can't get into 'Now Playing'. 

Looks like whatever was inroduced between 8.1.1 and 8.1.2 caused a
catastrophic crash. If others are not reporting a problem maybe it only
affects the Windows versions?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS killed my Jogglers!

2021-02-05 Thread Paul Webster


One recent Joggler specific (or really SqueezePlay specific) change was
to report to the Joggler an old LMS version if the SqueezePlay version
number was old.
This was to allow Jogglers running old BirdLikeWires builds to connect
to LMS 8 without having to patch/replace software on the Joggler.

You could revert to an older LMS and see if your problem stops
happening.



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