RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
This question about integrating Struts and Jetspeed was of some interest to me too. I subscribed to the jetspeed user ml and it looks like there is some activity (20-40 messages a day), although typical questions involve stuff like connecting to a db, ldap sources and so on, no really development/feature requests questions. Do you think that using the portal features of tiles could help in developing a portal application based on Struts? Right now (after knowing of jetspeed's death) it looks to me as a (the only?) good choice. umberto On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 04:13, James Higginbotham wrote: Thanks for the info.. You should probably check out the BasicPortal project at http://basicportal.sourceforge.net/; it's based on Struts and organized by some pretty active members of the struts-user community. It doesn't use OJB as far as I know. Will do... As for Jetspeed being dead... I'm not even a Jetspeed user, let alone a developer, but the dev mailing list monthly volume is higher than that of Lucene or even Log4J... However, from my exploring, I've gotten a mixed impression about the strength of the project community. I'm curious which list archives have diagnosed its death? Well, my understanding for a friend is that their Portal JSR impl was trying to be farmed out and that no one on the jetspeed team was going to do it. Maybe IBM stepped up and offered some help? That was several months ago.. Beyond that, I've noticed little changes to the web site, references to 2+ yr old articles (nothing newer), and no large feature improvements on their site in the last year or so.. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I should be monitoring their CVS archive more, but that's my impression, above the JSR side. I do see lots of activity, on the list, though. Thanks Joe for the info.. I'm really looking for a combination of Jetspeed + Slide + Cocoon + OSWorkflow for a CMS solution, but can't find anything other than PHP solutions at this point - and ones that lacks many features as well. I've stayed away from Jetspeed due to the new JSR potentially changing things drastically and its lack of perceived progress. I'll check into again to see if anything has changed. Regards, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- Umberto Nicoletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel. +390415701366 We'll try to make different mistakes this time. - Larry Wall -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
http://basicPortal.sf.net is a portal based on Struts. .V Umberto Nicoletti wrote: This question about integrating Struts and Jetspeed was of some interest to me too. I subscribed to the jetspeed user ml and it looks like there is some activity (20-40 messages a day), although typical questions involve stuff like connecting to a db, ldap sources and so on, no really development/feature requests questions. Do you think that using the portal features of tiles could help in developing a portal application based on Struts? Right now (after knowing of jetspeed's death) it looks to me as a (the only?) good choice. umberto On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 04:13, James Higginbotham wrote: Thanks for the info.. You should probably check out the BasicPortal project at http://basicportal.sourceforge.net/; it's based on Struts and organized by some pretty active members of the struts-user community. It doesn't use OJB as far as I know. Will do... As for Jetspeed being dead... I'm not even a Jetspeed user, let alone a developer, but the dev mailing list monthly volume is higher than that of Lucene or even Log4J... However, from my exploring, I've gotten a mixed impression about the strength of the project community. I'm curious which list archives have diagnosed its death? Well, my understanding for a friend is that their Portal JSR impl was trying to be farmed out and that no one on the jetspeed team was going to do it. Maybe IBM stepped up and offered some help? That was several months ago.. Beyond that, I've noticed little changes to the web site, references to 2+ yr old articles (nothing newer), and no large feature improvements on their site in the last year or so.. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I should be monitoring their CVS archive more, but that's my impression, above the JSR side. I do see lots of activity, on the list, though. Thanks Joe for the info.. I'm really looking for a combination of Jetspeed + Slide + Cocoon + OSWorkflow for a CMS solution, but can't find anything other than PHP solutions at this point - and ones that lacks many features as well. I've stayed away from Jetspeed due to the new JSR potentially changing things drastically and its lack of perceived progress. I'll check into again to see if anything has changed. Regards, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
Do you think that using the portal features of tiles could help in developing a portal application based on Struts? Well, if you need something now, like me, then you'll probably be doing what I do - comparing the potential of Jetspeed's codebase vs. writing something simple from scratch using Tiles. If you have some time, a ref impl of the portlet JSR should be out within the next month or two and would allow you to choose from (hopefully) multiple portal containers once the JSR goes final. I'm not sure where I stand at this point, I just know that after 3 years of J2EE, someone should have a solid portal framework (ala PHPNuke, but better), but nothing really exists yet. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
Take a look at http://basicportal.sf.net -- it's a sample portal application based on Struts and Tiles. It could give you a headstart in writing a portal with Tiles. It comes with a fast DAO layer that you can use. basicportal is designed to be able to plug in your own persistance framework to replace custom DAO if you want (ie EJB, castor, etc) -jm -Original Message- From: James Higginbotham [mailto:jhigginbotham;betweenmarkets.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:31 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed Do you think that using the portal features of tiles could help in developing a portal application based on Struts? Well, if you need something now, like me, then you'll probably be doing what I do - comparing the potential of Jetspeed's codebase vs. writing something simple from scratch using Tiles. If you have some time, a ref impl of the portlet JSR should be out within the next month or two and would allow you to choose from (hopefully) multiple portal containers once the JSR goes final. I'm not sure where I stand at this point, I just know that after 3 years of J2EE, someone should have a solid portal framework (ala PHPNuke, but better), but nothing really exists yet. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
James Higginbotham wrote: Do you think that using the portal features of tiles could help in developing a portal application based on Struts? Well, if you need something now, like me, then you'll probably be doing what I do - comparing the potential of Jetspeed's codebase vs. writing something simple from scratch using Tiles. If you have some time, a ref impl of the portlet JSR should be out within the next month or two and would allow you to choose from (hopefully) multiple portal containers once the JSR goes final. I'm not sure where I stand at this point, I just know that after 3 years of J2EE, someone should have a solid portal framework (ala PHPNuke, but better), but nothing really exists yet. I'm not surprised that there isn't a java nuke. The typical nuke user is someone running a hobby or special interest site. Nuke's use of php/mysql supports the cheapest hosting option. Since java used more in business/corporate settings, I wouldn't expect a big need for something like phpNuke. I used Tiles to create an intranet site that had user customizable modules but I didn't need all the nuke type candy or the threaded message board (slashdot style) stuff. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
You should probably check out the BasicPortal project at
http://basicportal.sourceforge.net/; it's based on Struts and
organized by some pretty active members of the struts-user community.
It doesn't use OJB as far as I know.
As for Jetspeed being dead... I'm not even a Jetspeed user, let
alone a developer, but the dev mailing list monthly volume is higher
than that of Lucene or even Log4J... However, from my exploring,
I've gotten a mixed impression about the strength of the project
community. I'm curious which list archives have diagnosed its death?
It looks like this topic came up and petered out in December 2001 and
January 2002; perhaps you should look at the Jetspeed mailing list
archives or post to the list and survey the interest of the current
developer community. They could probably tell you better than I can
whether they think Jetspeed is dead too!
Jetspeed is one of the references for the official Portal JSR (#168,
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=168), that page indicates: The RI
will be managed by IBM as an open source project at Apache and will
be made available under terms similar to that used for Apache
Tomcat. but there's no knowing if that means extending Jetspeed or
starting from scratch. JSR #168 is behind its original schedule, but
the public draft is currently scheduled for a December release.
Joe
At 1:22 PM -0600 2002/11/04, James Higginbotham wrote:
Jetspeed is dead - check some list archives. They *may* redo something
to use the new portlet API, but I haven't seen much activity from them.
There may be some folks out there still working on it, but in reality,
some new codebase should probably take its place (or some new
maintainers should step up for Jetspeed, if the customer base is still
large enough).
In fact, they were trying to pawn off their portlet reference API off to
a friend of mine as well. Too bad, since we need something like a
PHPNuke equiv in Java. I'd be interested in a similar project if one
exists.. Anyone know of any good portal framework that uses Struts, OJB,
and other proven frameworks?
HTH,
James
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RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
Thanks for the info.. You should probably check out the BasicPortal project at http://basicportal.sourceforge.net/; it's based on Struts and organized by some pretty active members of the struts-user community. It doesn't use OJB as far as I know. Will do... As for Jetspeed being dead... I'm not even a Jetspeed user, let alone a developer, but the dev mailing list monthly volume is higher than that of Lucene or even Log4J... However, from my exploring, I've gotten a mixed impression about the strength of the project community. I'm curious which list archives have diagnosed its death? Well, my understanding for a friend is that their Portal JSR impl was trying to be farmed out and that no one on the jetspeed team was going to do it. Maybe IBM stepped up and offered some help? That was several months ago.. Beyond that, I've noticed little changes to the web site, references to 2+ yr old articles (nothing newer), and no large feature improvements on their site in the last year or so.. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I should be monitoring their CVS archive more, but that's my impression, above the JSR side. I do see lots of activity, on the list, though. Thanks Joe for the info.. I'm really looking for a combination of Jetspeed + Slide + Cocoon + OSWorkflow for a CMS solution, but can't find anything other than PHP solutions at this point - and ones that lacks many features as well. I've stayed away from Jetspeed due to the new JSR potentially changing things drastically and its lack of perceived progress. I'll check into again to see if anything has changed. Regards, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: [OT] OJB/Struts and Jetspeed
Jetspeed is dead - check some list archives. They *may* redo something to use the new portlet API, but I haven't seen much activity from them. There may be some folks out there still working on it, but in reality, some new codebase should probably take its place (or some new maintainers should step up for Jetspeed, if the customer base is still large enough). In fact, they were trying to pawn off their portlet reference API off to a friend of mine as well. Too bad, since we need something like a PHPNuke equiv in Java. I'd be interested in a similar project if one exists.. Anyone know of any good portal framework that uses Struts, OJB, and other proven frameworks? HTH, James -Original Message- From: Hoang, Hai [mailto:Hai.Hoang;coair.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:01 PM To: 'struts-user' Cc: 'ojb-user' Subject: OJB/Struts and Jetspeed Hi, I am a Struts and OJB user and I would like to use Jetspeed. The problem is that Jetspeed architecture is heavily depended on turbine/velocity/torque frameworks. What I want to know is there any plans, initiatives or fork to decouple Jetspeed to allow it to work with OJB/Struts frameworks? Are there any supports from Struts and OJB user communities to port Jetspeed? Thank you, Hai Hoang _ Introducing the all new and improved continental.com. With a totally new personalized design, it's the best place to go. Before you go. Continental Airlines. Work Hard. Fly Right. http://www.continental.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
