Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 Gonzalo On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:28 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the Speak.activity folder. I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/ I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB stick. Alice is now running complete with brain. Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok, can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using the rpm? The rpm should be named sugar-speak Same behaviour after: sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48* then rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm Alice: I don't know what you are talking about Directory bot/ is again missing from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/ Two attachments, 1. Speak11-Action2_attach This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in the install logs. I cannot explain the line + rm -rf .0sugar bot Until I read sugar-speak.spec - line 32. Iain 2. I made SpeakContentReview in case it throws any light. As I see it the differences are: AUTHORS bot/ po/ *.pyo Environment, hard drive install from Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso Iain Gonzalo ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-runner not working in f21 Workstation
That's not a fix, it's a work around. I suspect something has changed or broken in Xephyr when used with mesa/3D etc. Peter On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.com wrote: How to fix this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#Fix_sugar-runner_in_workstation Thanks to pbrobinson (previous comment in this thread and mcatanzaro on #fedora-desktop Giimpnet irc Tom Gilliard satellit On 11/14/2014 11:32 AM, Sam P. wrote: I have the same issue with full screen on fedora 20 with gnome 3.12. On Nov 15, 2014 3:16 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: With more testing it seems to run OK from the command line if you specify a resolution eg sugar-runner --resolution 1024x768 so I'm not sure the issue with full screen Peter On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Please copy all the output. Gonzalo On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.com wrote: I can do alt+tab and get to stalled terminal or unknown no response or output on terminal alt+f2 (Command window) works to reboot. On reboot into sugar; terminal fails to start. Log app terminal last 2 lines: TypeError: argument foreground: Expected Gdk.RGBA, but got gi.overrides.GFK.Color Exited with status 1 Tom Gilliard satellit On 11/14/2014 1:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: I seem the same on gnome3 but I don't need to restart, I get a black screen but can alt+tab away and kill it. Peter On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.com wrote: I tested sugar-runner in f21 workstation beta TC2 (bare metal install updated) and I get a grey screen but no sugar... sugar-runner locks up fedora and seems to require a power cycle to escape sugar-desktop starts and works fine from gdm login with sugar selected. in xfce and lxde sugar runner works correctly Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Possibly due to this bug? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1136581#c5 The GNOME_KEYRING_PID variable was removed in the version of gnome-keyring included with f21: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-keyring-list/2014-March/msg0.html [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Final_TC2_Desktop#Sugar_.28non-blocking.2C_all_arches.29 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed. It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru. I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I aware of any bugs related to it or performance. Please add it back Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no? Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed. It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru. I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I aware of any bugs related to it or performance. Please add it back Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
Yes, but that is what this patch do, right? http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no? Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed. It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru. I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I aware of any bugs related to it or performance. Please add it back Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
So ask Sebastian Dzallas why he removed my contribution! Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:50 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Yes, but that is what this patch do, right? http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no? Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed. It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru. I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I aware of any bugs related to it or performance. Please add it back Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
Ahh, sorry, wrong Sebastian! Gonzalo On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: So ask Sebastian Dzallas why he removed my contribution! Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:50 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org: Yes, but that is what this patch do, right? http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no? Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org: I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed. It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru. I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I aware of any bugs related to it or performance. Please add it back Sebastian Silva http://somosazucar.org/ 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted. I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm. It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been working for years does it suddenly break. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the activity work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably) cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed. I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory, _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the bots data, but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the bot directory again. I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason. Ultimately we need to just sort it out here. Peter -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca wrote: Hi All, Hate to report that due to dependencies pointed out earlier[1], sugar-tamtam has been retired from F21[2]. Yes, it can be fixed and re-packaged and then resubmiited but nobody has stepped up to test, make it work and update it from the ancient version that was shipped. I have mixed feeling about this but I personally don't really have the time to deal with it at the moment and it seems most people that care about the activities only care enough if it's them not doing the work. I'd like to be proven wrong though. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?
Hey, I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs. I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution. Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin. Thanking you, Sanatan Mishra ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?
Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar) Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running; Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar activities to get a feel for the code. [1] developer.sugarlabs.org [2] bugs.sugarlabs.org regards. -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra sanatan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs. I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution. Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin. Thanking you, Sanatan Mishra ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?
Thank you. I got the developer environment up and running. Please explain me step two. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar) Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running; Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar activities to get a feel for the code. [1] developer.sugarlabs.org [2] bugs.sugarlabs.org regards. -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra sanatan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs. I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution. Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin. Thanking you, Sanatan Mishra ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?
I think it best to get a sense of the activity stack before exploring Sugar core. So play with some activities... look at the source to begin to get a sense of the activity structure, and then either chase down a bug from our bug tracker or try making a change/enhancement of your choosing. -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Sanatan Mishra sanatan...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. I got the developer environment up and running. Please explain me step two. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar) Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running; Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar activities to get a feel for the code. [1] developer.sugarlabs.org [2] bugs.sugarlabs.org regards. -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra sanatan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs. I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution. Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin. Thanking you, Sanatan Mishra ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
