Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100 features on Sugar 0.102 build
On 09/02/2014 01:49 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: Hi Jerry, As I've not had the pleasure of working with you directly and I have never been an OLPC associate, whatever that is, and, to my knowledge, there is no such thing as a Sugar Labs associate, therefore I don't feel offended by your (perceived) aggressive tone, so I hope it was not directed at me. Let me assert something which is often forgotten here: Deployments != Administrators For me, Deployments = Users. Therefore, the easier it is for users to install and/or use the Sugar Platform, the better. You say it is such a big change for the better that there exist a bunch of sugar-* packages. I ask: - Is the Sugar Datastore at all usefull without sugar? - Does any other software use the control panel packages? - Is there perhaps an alternative implementation of the aforementinoed mentioned packages that justifies splitting the platform? - Is it possible, practical, or even useful, to upgrade one component without the others? Now, as a deployment volunteer, let me tell you (you probably know this) that trying to work with Sugar on any GNU distribution other than fedora is a nightmare, as the platform does not declare it's dependencies properly, and does not communicate upstream effectively, so, for instance, Write never works, speech never works, and half the activities don't work (maybe I'm exaggerating out of frustration). see: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#openSUSE-Edu-li-f-e-gnome-classic-13.1.2 sugar 0.98.8 works very well - talk to cyberorg in #opensuse-edu (India) for details I have been a strong proponent of extirpating Sugar from the OLPC/fedora microcosmos, but frankly, adding complexity is not helping. Now, from the technical point of view, perhaps a simple sugar-platform package that pulls ALL of Sugar and glucose and dependencies would not be so hard to do, and then the deployment-administrator-supporters can just omit this package and manually pick and chop sugar as they see fit (or are requested to do). I feel sad that to this day and age, SugarLabs has not proven to be much more than an appendix of OLPC, even to hard working members of the community such as yourself. Regards, Sebastian El mar, 2 de sep 2014 a las 2:46 PM, Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca escribió: On September 2, 2014 at 11:54 AM Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: I don't care one way or the other how you guys configure olpc-os-builder, but as a Sugar platform contributor, I think sugar packages should come with all the bells and whistles included, and if any deployment wants to chop and censor functionality, then it should be their problem, not the other way around. So much for being volunteer deployment friendly, now you have to fix sugar at the image creation time, patching out/in what you want in the image, in place of just not installing certain functionality in the first place. Are you suggesting that datastore, toolkit(s), base, be re-merged into a single massive rpm? I think not, the control-panel rpm split is a natural progression of this progressive thinking. This take it or leave it attitude that is displayed here is the reason myself and Dextrose(Activity Central) came into being part of the ecosystem in the first place, for the needs of the deployment. We listened to what the deployment wanted to do and worked towards that goal. I guess that this is just another way to ensure further work is only done by a sugarlabs/olpc associate. Just my 3 cents, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100 features on Sugar 0.102 build
On 08/30/2014 08:33 AM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT wrote: There was no background section at Control Panel, after install sugar-cp-background it is present, but there is no image to set as background. http://imgur.com/JW0goSa You may need a xxx.png on a USB stick to import to journal? It is in f21 ( the background image from f21): Screenshot: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_64-21.png VirtualBox.ova: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#F21_release_candidate_Sugar_0.102_v11 2014-08-29 19:17 GMT-06:00 Jerry Vonau m...@jvonau.ca mailto:m...@jvonau.ca: Would that not require the sugar-cp-background rpm to installed in the image? Don't see it listed in OOB[1]. 1. https://github.com/sugarlabs/olpc-os-builder/blob/SL102/modules/sugar/kspkglist.50.sugar.inc Jerry On August 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org mailto:godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Can you see the background section in the control panel? On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT gr...@fundacionzt.org mailto:gr...@fundacionzt.org wrote: Also, i forget to mention, how can i try the background features? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Background_image_on_home_view 2014-08-29 14:23 GMT-06:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org mailto:godi...@sugarlabs.org: Walter, are these activities updated to use GSettings? Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Re ChangeIcon, try copying some svg files into ~/.icon from the Terminal program. There is an activity for setting up multiple home views: [4] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4722 On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT gr...@fundacionzt.org mailto:gr...@fundacionzt.org wrote: Hello I'm trying to create a custo mized image based on Sugar 0.102, with features of Sugar 0.100 [0][1] This is what i'm using: - OS Builder forked from https://github.com/sugarlabs/olpc-os-builder, branch SL102 - No gnome, just sugar But i have some problems, for example: - Icon Change activity, failed to start, here is the log [2] - When i try to test the multiple home views, they are not present after restart Sugar, this is what i type at Terminal activity as regular user: gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/view_icons --type list --list-type string ['view-radial','view-radial'] gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/view_favorites --type list --list-type string ['emblem-favorite','emblem-favorite'] gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorite_names --type list --list-type string ['Home View','Student View'] reboot [0]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Icon_Change [1]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views [2] http://pastebin.com/qDqxkuU0 Thanks for your help Regards -- German Ruíz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100 features on Sugar 0.102 build
Try this importable VirtualBox .ova where the background can be changed. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#F21_release_candidate_Sugar_0.102_v11 sugar 0.102 On 08/29/2014 03:24 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT wrote: Also, i forget to mention, how can i try the background features? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Background_image_on_home_view 2014-08-29 14:23 GMT-06:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org mailto:godi...@sugarlabs.org: Walter, are these activities updated to use GSettings? Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Re ChangeIcon, try copying some svg files into ~/.icon from the Terminal program. There is an activity for setting up multiple home views: [4] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4722 On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT gr...@fundacionzt.org mailto:gr...@fundacionzt.org wrote: Hello I'm trying to create a custo mized image based on Sugar 0.102, with features of Sugar 0.100 [0][1] This is what i'm using: - OS Builder forked from https://github.com/sugarlabs/olpc-os-builder, branch SL102 - No gnome, just sugar But i have some problems, for example: - Icon Change activity, failed to start, here is the log [2] - When i try to test the multiple home views, they are not present after restart Sugar, this is what i type at Terminal activity as regular user: gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/view_icons --type list --list-type string ['view-radial','view-radial'] gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/view_favorites --type list --list-type string ['emblem-favorite','emblem-favorite'] gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorite_names --type list --list-type string ['Home View','Student View'] reboot [0]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Icon_Change [1]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views [2] http://pastebin.com/qDqxkuU0 Thanks for your help Regards -- German Ruíz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] listing of activities that do not start in sugar 0.96.2 in http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/raspberrypi/test-releases/rpfr17/latest/raspberrypi-fedora-remix-17-test-004.img
These were installed with yum install sugar* (I think this command downloads sugar; sugar-emulator; and all of the sugar activities available in sugar 0.96.2 arm) Report:[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi#Applications The error message in log.activity is listed for the activities that do not start in f17 sugar 0.96.2 arm Tom Gilliard [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi#Test_report_raspberrypi-fedora-remix-17-test-004.img ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Test report raspberrypi-fedora-remix-17-test-003.img
Sugar 0.96.1 installs on an SDXC card for the RPi [1] [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi#Test_report_raspberrypi-fedora-remix-17-test-003.img ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
Peter; Wiki page is updated with your announcement: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Quandong Now we need to move and update it to left Projects menu on the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick Tom Gilliard On 06/05/2012 05:41 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: I'd like to announce Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong) There's been a lot of work go into this release from a lot of communities from Fedora and all the Fedora 17 features that give us new and exciting hardware support to the Sugar Labs community and all the new features that come with the Sugar 0.96 release on which SoaS v7 is based. Thanks go to all the people that have contributed to this release including Kalpa and Thomas who helped directly with SoaS, the Sugar development team and other Sugar developers. A lot of work has been done to ensure we can get working core Activities like Read and Browse and what should a good working base for deployments to test and add to. Some of the key new features of this release include: - Based on Fedora 17 and it's new features [1] - Massively improved x86 Mac support [2] - Sugar 0.96 with initial support for GTK3 Activities and many other improvements [3] - Return of Browse, now based on WebKit - The long awaited return of Read and inclusion of GetBooks - Enhanced hardware support with the 3.3 kernel - An increase in default Activities by nearly 50% Almost all of the previous Activities have seen updated releases including but not limited to: - Abacus 35 (GTK3) - Record 95 - Physics 9 - TurtleArt 138 Newly added Activities include: - Browse 137 (GTK3) - Countries 33 - Finance 7 - GetBooks 11 - Help 14 (GTK3) - Infoslicer 14 - Labyrinth 12 - Paint 43 - Portfolio 21 - Read 99 (GTK3) There are many more Activities available through the usual Fedora repositories. The release name, Quandong, continues the tradition of naming releases by types of fruit. The Quandong [4] or Native Peach is a native Australian bushfood. You can download the release from the following link. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ It can also be installed as part of a standard Fedora 17 install and is shipped as part of the official Fedora installer DVD and the Fedora Multi Spin Live DVD. It can also be installed from the GUI package tool within a running Fedora install or by command line sudo yum install @sugar-desktop. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList [2] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12037.html [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Notes [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santalum_acuminatum ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )
On 05/27/2012 05:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with e-toys: If jabber.sugarlabs.org is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network, e-toys will not start: DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not connected. (no jabber connected) As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel that this is an important bug to look at. Sorry, it was reported too late. It should have also been reported to the soas list. I have been reporting this occasional failure, But only realized what was causing this behavior 3 days ago. : ( It is possible to use E-toys but the DBusError created by the starting example is very distracting. See bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3640#comment:1 The start up example seems to require process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [Announce] [IAEP] Mageia-2 has task-sugar 0.95.1 and sugar-emulator
Great News; Mageia-2 has task-sugar 0.95.1 and sugar-emulator. [1] This is another Community Distribution for sugar [2] Ranked 6 in Distrowatch [3] (Mageia is the independent fork of Mandriva built by a majority of the Mandriva developers.) -there are some missing headers in applications, but sugar works well. Runs Gnome3 in fallback mode in VirtualBox This is just released Gnome 3.2.1 [1] http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/2/Mageia-2-LiveCD-GNOME-Europe1-Americas-i586-CD/Mageia-2-LiveCD-GNOME-Europe1-Americas-i586-CD.iso.md5 [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia [3] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mageia Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )
I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with e-toys: If jabber.sugarlabs.org is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network, e-toys will not start: DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not connected. (no jabber connected) As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel that this is an important bug to look at. Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong) Fedora release 17 (beefy Miracle) 0.96.1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ tested with dd usb and liveinst HD install [1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17.RC4/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-17-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: * *To reset only the ssh keys*, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use |rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*| in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar |su shutdown -h now|. This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files.* * I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 04:19 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: 2012/1/20 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: To reset only the ssh keys, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key* in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar su shutdown -h now. This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files. Then why include the first instruction? It deletes the Journal. Eduardo It also prepares sugar (Soas) to a virgin state ready for the next user: *To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries*, enter the command (|rm ~ rf /.sugar|) in the Terminal activity. Then shutdown sugar (|su shutdown -h now| ) . This will clear all Learner information and let you start with a fresh install. Skipping this will result in collisions in the Neighborhood view of the Jabber network. Verify the presence of the *.sugar* directory by entering(|ls -a| )in Terminal. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface#How_To_clear_Sugar_of_these_keys_and_the_name_and_color_entries If this is too advanced, for the tutorial, It can be removed. The network collisions problem is real. some people use dd to copy a usb and will have many problems if multiple identical copies are used. Tom Gilliard satellit_ I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] add --efi to the command line options on f17 liveusb-creator?
Is it possible to add --efi to the command line options on f17 liveusb-creator? In testing of USB installs on TC2 f17, liveusb-creator is the only usb creator method that cannot create an EFI bootable (Macintosh Powerbook Pro i7) USB. [1] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_TC2_Install#USB_Stick ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Log activity
Only 0.82 compatible log activity: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Log (Not on ASLO) log-7.xo (G1G1) Okay, Log-7 bundle has been posted. wade http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Wade 16:56, 21 May 2008 (EDT) The releases with which this version of the activity has been tested. 8.2.0 (767) http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4056 only goes to 0.84 On 04/09/2012 03:31 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, The Log activity not works in Sugar 0.82. Can update the page? http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4056 Regards! Alan PD: you will change it or fill a ticket? ___ ASLO mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/aslo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Cautions on using a f17 beta DVD to upgrade a f16 hard disk installed with sugar-desktop
Caution; Just using the f17 Beta DVD to do an upgrade from f16 to f17 will leave an incomplete upgrade. DVD upgrade of F16 - to F17 requires yum update on Reboot to complete. [1] This is a very large update. There is no indication after you reboot after the DVD upgrade that this is required. Tom Gilliard satellit_ [1 ] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora#f16_DVD_Upgrade_to_F17 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Packaging Wish List
On 03/23/2012 05:51 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: Hi, I updated the Fedora Sugar Activities page [1] so that the users can add their favourite/useful activities to be packaged. This will help the packagers so that they don't have to pick activities randomly to package. If you as a packager is working on a packaging a activity in the wish list please state that in the assigned to column to avoid any confusion. I hope this initiative will result for the betterment of both sugar and fedora. The table needs updating. follow the first link for browse we are up to browse 132 (133 is ready) in f17 Beta TC2 Comments are highly welcome. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sugar_Activities ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] MIT OpenCourseWare Python programming for independent learners
interesting post: Tom Gilliard New OCW Scholar Course Python programming has fast become the introductory programming language of choice, and now MIT OpenCourseWare has unveiled a new Python programming resource designed specifically for independent learners. Developed by Professor John Guttag, 6.00SC Introduction to Computer Science and Programming (http://e2ma.net/go/11749717743/4264135/114692907/12960/goto:http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/ ) is a free and open course aimed at students with little or no prior programming experience. 6.00SC is the fifth of seven OCW Scholar courses planned for release by the end of March. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] 4 GB USB stick of tuquito-5-gnome-dvd-32bit.iso with sweets-distribution (sugar 0.94.1) installed
I just made a 4 GB USB stick with ubuntu (Trisquel 5.5) startup disk creator of tuquito-5-gnome-dvd-32bit.iso http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/tuquito Then installed sweets-distribution (sugar 0.94.1) using drag-drop of group commands for 11.04 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates sugar starts right up. tuquito-5 is a very nice distribution. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
On 03/19/2012 08:03 AM, Art Hunkins wrote: FWIW, this version fails to install correctly to a 2GB USB stick via Live-USB-Creator. The log report: Traceback (most recent call last): File liveusb\gui.pyc, line 420, in status TypeError: QTextEdit.append(QString): argument 1 has unexpected type 'int' The stick also fails to boot on a computer. I suspect the problem has more to do with the compatibility between Live-USB-Creator and the TC2-Beta .iso however. Am I correct? reported bug: liveusb-creator fails to start in f17[1] use /tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh (as listed below) for a persistent USB-stick [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796489 Art Hunkins - Original Message - *From:* Thomas C Gilliard mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com *To:* SoaS mailto:s...@lists.sugarlabs.org ; Sugar Devel mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:15 PM *Subject:* [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Test results: * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Tested CD usingPenguin Libre GNU / Linux Notebook i3. (all free drivers) * Boots to name___; Color___ * Wireless AP (WEP) Connects and stays connected * Sees Jabber About my Computer Build Sugar on a Stick 7 Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) Sugar 0.95.4 Firmware 2.60 Activities 2-) Tested in VirtualBox 4.1.10 install to 8 GB HD Use whole Disk [x]use LVM key=not favorite; ok=starts and saves; == updates to: etoys 116*no* DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 (pulsing in top bar after quit) visual match35 ok chat73 ok ==74 ok maze15 ok moon13 ok abacus 31*no* failed to start AttributeError: 'AbacusActivity' object has no attribute 'set_toolbox'*are we shipping too new a version here?* turtle art 136 ok write 77 ok ==78 ok typing turtle 29 ok speak 36 ok ==37 ok jukebox 23 ok irc 10 ok pippy 45 ok?* ==46 ok fixed*(Physics does not start in 45) memorize39 ok portfolio 21 ok image viewer19 ok? no matching entries log 26 ok ==27 ok calculate 38 ok record 93==94 ok sees VirtualBox USB Camera ruler 19 ok clock7 ok physics 9 ok terminal35 ok read 97*no* failed to start browse 131 ok ==132 ok tools_livecd-iso-to-disk Persistent USB-stick 4 GB EMTEC USB-stick sudo ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 900 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)1 Verifying image... ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 806: checkisomd5: command not found Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 489975808 100%6.98MB/s0:01:06 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 490035693 bytes received 31 bytes 7259788.50 bytes/sec total size is 489975808 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 8192 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 8265 bytes received 31 bytes 16592.00 bytes/sec total size is 8192 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file 500+0 records in 500+0 records out 524288000 bytes (524 MB) copied, 86.1616 s, 6.1 MB/s Initializing persistent /home 900+0 records in 900+0 records out 943718400 bytes (944 MB) copied, 211.095 s, 4.5 MB/s Formatting unencrypted /home mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 57600 inodes, 230400 blocks 11520 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=239075328 8 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 7200 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376 Writing inode
[Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Test results: * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Tested CD usingPenguin Libre GNU / Linux Notebook i3. (all free drivers) * Boots to name___; Color___ * Wireless AP (WEP) Connects and stays connected * Sees Jabber About my Computer Build Sugar on a Stick 7 Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) Sugar 0.95.4 Firmware 2.60 Activities 2-) Tested in VirtualBox 4.1.10 install to 8 GB HD Use whole Disk [x]use LVM key=not favorite; ok=starts and saves; == updates to: etoys 116*no* DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 (pulsing in top bar after quit) visual match35 ok chat73 ok ==74 ok maze15 ok moon13 ok abacus 31*no* failed to start AttributeError: 'AbacusActivity' object has no attribute 'set_toolbox'*are we shipping too new a version here?* turtle art 136 ok write 77 ok ==78 ok typing turtle 29 ok speak 36 ok ==37 ok jukebox 23 ok irc 10 ok pippy 45 ok?* ==46 ok fixed*(Physics does not start in 45) memorize39 ok portfolio 21 ok image viewer19 ok? no matching entries log 26 ok ==27 ok calculate 38 ok record 93==94 ok sees VirtualBox USB Camera ruler 19 ok clock7 ok physics 9 ok terminal35 ok read 97*no* failed to start browse 131 ok ==132 ok tools_livecd-iso-to-disk Persistent USB-stick 4 GB EMTEC USB-stick sudo ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 900 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)1 Verifying image... ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 806: checkisomd5: command not found Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 489975808 100%6.98MB/s0:01:06 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 490035693 bytes received 31 bytes 7259788.50 bytes/sec total size is 489975808 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 8192 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 8265 bytes received 31 bytes 16592.00 bytes/sec total size is 8192 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file 500+0 records in 500+0 records out 524288000 bytes (524 MB) copied, 86.1616 s, 6.1 MB/s Initializing persistent /home 900+0 records in 900+0 records out 943718400 bytes (944 MB) copied, 211.095 s, 4.5 MB/s Formatting unencrypted /home mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 57600 inodes, 230400 blocks 11520 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=239075328 8 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 7200 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376 Writing inode tables: done Creating journal (4096 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done This filesystem will be automatically checked every 39 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override. tune2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Setting maximal mount count to -1 Setting interval between checks to 0 seconds Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
Gonzalo: I re-testedFedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Read 97 again: In a software updated Persistent USB-stick and with an Live CD: Started write and saved 4 copies of a write file as: .txt started Read ok from journal .pdf started Read ok from journal .rtf started Read ok from journal .html started Read ok from journal (with default settings) problems here: Resume with Drop Down Menu: -Write started Read ok from journal -Etoys gets grey screen (this may be the Etoys DbusErrors listed in my testing) -Browse get Unable to load page URL cannot be shown (the URL from the sugar journal may be too complex?) (I get pulsing write icons in the top bar of the frame after Write 77 saves these 4 files and exits After these tests I had 4 write pulsing icons on top bar of frame that do not time out. Only a restart will stop them.) Write 78 seems to fix this. My first tests were done with an empty journal. Read actually works very nicely. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar On 03/18/2012 04:53 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar What is the problem with Read? Can you provide a log file? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] trisquel_5.5-20120317_i686installed to Virtualbox, 16 GB HD, using (F4) OEM install with sweets-distribution (sugar 0.94.1) added
I just installed trisquel_5.5-20120317_i686 to Virtualbox 4.1.10 , (16 GB HD,) using the (F4) OEM install. Installed sweets-distribution : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates Clicked on prepare oem icon on desktop to add changes and shut down. On restart oem Trisquel set language; keyboard; location and user. All were as I set them up, with sweets-distribution as 2nd choice on login or as education/sugar in the trisquel menu. neat : ) Abrowser preferences did not change from default settings however. Tom Gilliard satellit on #trisquel and #sugar ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing Activities with Sugar 0.96
On 03/13/2012 02:42 PM, Art Hunkins wrote: I've been eager to test my activities with 0.96, but don't find a ready means of doing it. I primarily look to Sugar-on-a-Stick, but 0.94 (Pineapple) is the last official release. 1-) Install works http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Beta-TC1-x86_64-Live-XFCE_with_Sugar_0.95.4 2-) Make bootable Sugar 0.95.4 persistent USB-sticks http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/tools_livecd-iso-to-disk#Fedora-17-Beta-TC1-i686-Live-Desktop http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/tools_livecd-iso-to-disk#Fedora-17-Nightly-20120221.07-i686-Live-soas [1] (no longer available from nightly composes) 3-)Activity testing: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28A_to_I%29 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28J_to_Z%29 Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ [1] http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Fedora-17-Nightly-20120221.07-i686-Live-soas.iso Live-USB-Creator won't make me a bootable USB stick with the latest Fedora17 nightly builds either. (It all fails - goes black - just before the username screen should appear.) I've an XO-1 and XO-1.5 available as well, if an 0.96 is available for either of these. Art Hunkins ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Testing of Fedora-17-Beta-TC1-x86_64-Live-XFCE with Sugar 0.95.4
Tested 03/12/2012 Acer Aspire ONE N450 with external USB Hard Disk install. Updates done from CP\Software Update There seem to be quite a few activities not starting from f17 fedora downloads. XFCE has no log out or shutdown that work need to go to console and su shutdown-h now to quit Tom Gilliard satellit_ ===Fedora-17-Beta-TC1-x86_64-Live-XFCE with Sugar 0.95.4=== Fedora-17-Beta-TC1-x86_64-Live-XFCE.iso Boot CD Edited Wireless and added WEP ASCII password set wireless IPv6 to ignore https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801052 Install to HD: use whole disk non LVM Boot Add/Remove Programs - sugar check all pertinent activities Menu/education/sugar Sugar emulator starts: sugar-desktop starts and wireless AP is already configured. Wireless stays connected Values from Live CD seem to be transferred to install. About My Computer Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) 0.95.4 V1.05 Activities Key = ok started and saved to journal version update Error read 97 failed to start after selecting something write 77 78 ok maze 15 ok implode 10 11 ok physics 9 ok pippy 4546 ok view slides8 failed to start etoys116 starts and reports error speak 3637 ok memorize 39 ok tamtamSynthlab 5262 ok tamtamediy62 okno sound tamtamjam 5262 okno sound tamtammini5162 okno sound ruler19 ok stopwatch 14 ok terminal 35 ok visualmatch35 ok browse 131 132 ok labyrinth 11failed to start abacus31 failed to start paint 3739 failed to start calandario4 5 ok turtle art 136 ok measure 36 ok oscilloscope shows sounds calculate 38 ok typing turtle29 ok get ia books 3failed to start irc10 ok have to start 2nd time to log in? finance 3failed to start connect 22failed to start infoslicer 11 ok search olpc works pukllanapac 8 ok jukebox 23 ok record 93 failed to start moon 13 ok flip sticks12 ok clock 7 ok chat73 74 ok portfolio 21 ok log 26 27 ok image viewer 19 ok playgo 5 failed to start ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing sweets 0.86 ?
On 03/11/2012 08:13 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello, The problem with the emulator (0.84 version) is that it is in *fullscreen mode* : can I launch it in a little window, as with the new sweets emulator ? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable#Sugar-Emulator_Screen_Size_Adjustment Regards Le 11 mars 2012 15:55, Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org mailto:alsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 02:49:45PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Ok, so I installed gnome-packagekit, then Sugar SDK 0.84 But I have two troubleshoots : - I have no way to log off the sugar emulator (version 0.84) Thats because sugar-0.84 was relying on Hal for such work. Hal was removed from recent distros. Since sdk/sugar:emulator is a Xephyr window, just close it. - The terminal activity seems to take a lot of time to start (I cancelled it) Recent Terminal doesn' work with sugar versions less than 0.86. Regards Le 11 mars 2012 13:05, Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org mailto:alsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:55:41PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Ok, I did not install Package Kit, because I had done it once before, and the result was that I got two packages managers in my system instead of only one. Is there a way to install missing dependencies without package kit ? PackageKit is working on top of native packager. So, you have only one package manager all time. The whole reason for PackageKit project is having the same way to install packages on all distros (thats why it is being used in 0install/sweets). You should not have any problems after installing PackageKit on Ubuntu, just don't use it and continue using native tools. -- Aleksey -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing sweets 0.86 ?
On 03/11/2012 07:55 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 02:49:45PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Ok, so I installed gnome-packagekit, then Sugar SDK 0.84 But I have two troubleshoots : - I have no way to log off the sugar emulator (version 0.84) Thats because sugar-0.84 was relying on Hal for such work. Hal was removed from recent distros. Since sdk/sugar:emulator is a Xephyr window, just close it. - The terminal activity seems to take a lot of time to start (I cancelled it) Recent Terminal doesn' work with sugar versions less than 0.86. Activity tests for older sugar versions: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix Regards Le 11 mars 2012 13:05, Aleksey Limalsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:55:41PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Ok, I did not install Package Kit, because I had done it once before, and the result was that I got two packages managers in my system instead of only one. Is there a way to install missing dependencies without package kit ? PackageKit is working on top of native packager. So, you have only one package manager all time. The whole reason for PackageKit project is having the same way to install packages on all distros (thats why it is being used in 0install/sweets). You should not have any problems after installing PackageKit on Ubuntu, just don't use it and continue using native tools. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1
wiki page detailing install: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 Build:Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for i586 Sugar:0.95.1 Firmware: Virtualbox We have another OS with sugar. Thank you; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar freenode IRC ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] virtual appliances are virtualiser specific?
I have used VMware Player to run them [1]: I have not tested further on this topic. On Creating a New VirtualBox Appliance: Please choose the type of file that you would like to use for the new virtual disk. If you do not need to use it with other virtualization software you can leave this setting unchanged. *VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) *VMDK (Virtual Machine Disk) *VHD(Virtual Hard Disk) *HDD(Parallels Hard Disk) There may be a way to convert them. I use the VMDK format. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#VMware_Player_Virtualization VMware Player 4.0 will now work with exported Virtual Box appliances (see Below) It still works with the compressed VMware Player files below Tom Gilliard On 03/08/2012 08:53 PM, James Cameron wrote: So are your .vmdk and .ovf files for appliances only available for VirtualBox? Or will they also work on other virtualisation software? On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 08:26:06PM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Here is a new I686 VirtualBox Importable Appliance: (It is uploading now so wait until tomorrow to download it) 3 + hrs to go 8:25 PM PST http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit# XUbuntu_11.10_sweets-distribution_sugar_0.94 Tom Gilliard On 03/08/2012 08:17 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Le 8 mars 2012 16:54, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com a ?crit : This is command string[1] copy paste into terminal SV=0.94 UV=11.10 SD=http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution: sudo apt-add-repository deb $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/ ./ \ wget -qO- $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/Release.key | sudo apt-key add - \ sudo apt-get update \ sudo apt-get install sweets-distribution Did you do the last line? [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/ Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates Yes i entered all of the box content (the terminal asked me I wanted to add extra data to system, i accepted, then it downloaded the sugar packages) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Progress Report: Looks like Mageia is close to having sugar-desktop
Mageia Linux Distribution ported from Mandriva 2010.2 Many contributors from Mandriva are building this Distribution. Progress; https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1969 Wiki Page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sweets-sugar-emulator cannot be found in my Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits
Try this [1]: It will give you Sweets Distribution directly without going through Ubuntu first. * Log out * Log in session: (stared wheel in top - right corner of gdm window) drop down box appears: * Sweets Distribution =Pick this one Ubuntu Ubuntu 2D * Pswd___ * [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu/Tests#Ubuntu_11.10_with_Sugar_0.94_via_Sweets_Distribution On 03/08/2012 07:17 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello, thank you for your reply I've got the lines deb http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ deb-src http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ in my /etc/apt/sources.list I've done an apt-get update before trying to install sweets-distribution The command : $ aptitude search sweets-distribution sends me : i sweets-distribution - Sweets Distribution So I guess that sweets-distribution is installed Regards Le 8 mars 2012 13:17, Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org mailto:alsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 09:30:29AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello everyone, First I want to apologize I'm adressing to the wrong mailing-list (I've already forgotten which is the other Sugar/OLPC one). I've just tried the new repository for sweets. - I've got the sugar menu (under education) - but when I launch it, I get the error sugar-sweets-emulator can't be found However, i've copied and paste the command for Ubuntu 11.10 on the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Releases My OS is a Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits. Make sure that you have http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/; line in /etc/apt/sources.list. And system is up-to-date and sweets-distribution package is installed. 11.10 packages were uploaded yesterday. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sweets-sugar-emulator cannot be found in my Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits
This is command string[1] copy paste into terminal SV=0.94 UV=11.10 SD=http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution: sudo apt-add-repository deb $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/ ./ \ wget -qO- $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/Release.key | sudo apt-key add - \ sudo apt-get update \ sudo apt-get install sweets-distribution Did you do the last line? [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates On 03/08/2012 07:17 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello, thank you for your reply I've got the lines deb http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ deb-src http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ in my /etc/apt/sources.list I've done an apt-get update before trying to install sweets-distribution The command : $ aptitude search sweets-distribution sends me : i sweets-distribution - Sweets Distribution So I guess that sweets-distribution is installed Regards Le 8 mars 2012 13:17, Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org mailto:alsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 09:30:29AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello everyone, First I want to apologize I'm adressing to the wrong mailing-list (I've already forgotten which is the other Sugar/OLPC one). I've just tried the new repository for sweets. - I've got the sugar menu (under education) - but when I launch it, I get the error sugar-sweets-emulator can't be found However, i've copied and paste the command for Ubuntu 11.10 on the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Releases My OS is a Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits. Make sure that you have http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/; line in /etc/apt/sources.list. And system is up-to-date and sweets-distribution package is installed. 11.10 packages were uploaded yesterday. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sweets-sugar-emulator cannot be found in my Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits
It installed here without a hitch. I did a full update of xubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64 [1] before I installed Sweets_Distribution [1] I am on the jabber.sugarlabs.org atm using sugar-emulator Logout gives these selections in the Login Box Dropdown List: *Sweets Distribution == )use this one Xfce Dession Xubuntu Session Be sure to select Sweets Distribution when you log in. Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ #sugar IRC Thank you Aleksey Lim and James Cameron : - ) [1] Download :http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.10/release/xubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso [2] Test Results: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu/Tests#XUbuntu_11.10_with_Sugar_0.94_via_Sweets_Distribution On 03/08/2012 08:23 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: I kept the installation of Sweets that I've done on the morning I logged off from my XUbuntu session I chose Sweets Distribution as session to open But I got instead an xfce session. Maybe all these troubles come from the fact that it is an xfce system. Regards Le 8 mars 2012 16:50, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com a écrit : Try this [1]: It will give you Sweets Distribution directly without going through Ubuntu first. * Log out * Log in session: (stared wheel in top - right corner of gdm window) drop down box appears: * Sweets Distribution =Pick this one Ubuntu Ubuntu 2D * Pswd___ * [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu/Tests#Ubuntu_11.10_with_Sugar_0.94_via_Sweets_Distribution On 03/08/2012 07:17 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello, thank you for your reply I've got the lines deb http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ deb-src http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/ ./ in my /etc/apt/sources.list I've done an apt-get update before trying to install sweets-distribution The command : $ aptitude search sweets-distribution sends me : i sweets-distribution - Sweets Distribution So I guess that sweets-distribution is installed Regards Le 8 mars 2012 13:17, Aleksey Lim alsr...@sugarlabs.org mailto:alsr...@sugarlabs.org a écrit : On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 09:30:29AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello everyone, First I want to apologize I'm adressing to the wrong mailing-list (I've already forgotten which is the other Sugar/OLPC one). I've just tried the new repository for sweets. - I've got the sugar menu (under education) - but when I launch it, I get the error sugar-sweets-emulator can't be found However, i've copied and paste the command for Ubuntu 11.10 on the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Releases My OS is a Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits. Make sure that you have http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.10/; line in /etc/apt/sources.list. And system is up-to-date and sweets-distribution package is installed. 11.10 packages were uploaded yesterday. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sweets-sugar-emulator cannot be found in my Xubuntu 11.10 64 bits
Here is a new I686 VirtualBox Importable Appliance: (It is uploading now so wait until tomorrow to download it) 3 + hrs to go 8:25 PM PST http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#XUbuntu_11.10_sweets-distribution_sugar_0.94 Tom Gilliard On 03/08/2012 08:17 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Le 8 mars 2012 16:54, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com a écrit : This is command string[1] copy paste into terminal SV=0.94 UV=11.10 SD=http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution: sudo apt-add-repository deb $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/ ./ \ wget -qO- $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/Release.key | sudo apt-key add - \ sudo apt-get update \ sudo apt-get install sweets-distribution Did you do the last line? [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates Yes i entered all of the box content (the terminal asked me I wanted to add extra data to system, i accepted, then it downloaded the sugar packages) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC:Simple Help widget for activities
Build a Remix .iso for Soas
Help files as included .pdf?
Example from Floss Manuals
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/TurtleArt_06Sep08.pdf
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora
Include Documents in Books directory?:
and link from activity?
(From section Mel gave to me)
%post --nochroot
# Mel's Example starts (thanks to Mel Chua)
# pull and include sample content
WD=$PWD
CACHE_DIR=$WD/../cache/books
CONTENT_DIR=$INSTALL_ROOT/home/liveuser/Desktop/books
mkdir -p $CACHE_DIR
mkdir -p $CONTENT_DIR
cd $CONTENT_DIR
PDF=$PDFhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit;
PDF=$PDFhttp://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/TurtleArt_06Sep08.pdf
http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/ForwardPages5-6.pdf
PDF=$PDF link
http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/Sugar_on_a_Stick-3-Creation_Kit-en-US.pdf
PDF=$PDF link
PDF=$PDF link
PDF=$PDFlink http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/FM_Sugar_28Oct08.pdf
for pdf in $PDF ; do
remote_file=$(basename $(curl -4 -s -L -w %{url_effective} -I $pdf | tail -1))
file=$CACHE_DIR/$remote_file
if [ ! -f $file ] ; then
curl -s -4 -L $pdf $file
fi
cp -p $file $CONTENT_DIR
done
%end
On 03/07/2012 04:53 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org wrote:
We receive many times request about adding help in the activities,
and if is true Sugar propose a exploratory approach,
not all the people learn in the same way,
and there are people who prefer a little guidance.
For the development we need a simple api, and easy i18n,
and a non obtrusive experience for the user.
Inspired by the DescriptionItem, I was experimenting with a widget to add
simple help to activities.
This is not:
* A manual
* Lessons
* Tips
Is a short startup help for the activity.
Use only text and the icons already used by the activity.
A example can be seen here:
http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/images/simple_graph_help.png
In the activity we only need do:
helpitem = HelpButton()
toolbar.insert(helpitem, -1)
helpitem.show()
helpitem.add_section(_('Basic usage'))
helpitem.add_paragraph(_('First you need add data to create the
graphic'))
helpitem.add_paragraph(_('You can add data with this button'),
'row-insert')
helpitem.add_paragraph(_('...or remove data with this button'),
'row-remove')
helpitem.add_paragraph(_('To change the graphic title, just change the
activity title'))
This proposal is late for sugar 0.96, but may be we can try it in one or two
activities,
and start thinking about this topic.
I really like the help in the Implode activity, but have the following
problems:
* I don't know if apply to other type of activities.
* Is modal
* need a lot of code to implement it.
Comments?
Gonzalo
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I am busy working on my 4th generation of help for TA. None of the
previous attempts have been satisfactory to date:
(1) FLOSS Manual and very extensive wiki page : no evidence that our
users are aware of these pages or have access to them;
(2) Hover help : really annoying to have pop ups all the time -- maybe
I could have adjusted the time outs, but it never seemed very good.
(3) Hover help where the messages appear on the toolbar : the help
toolbar must be selected at the time or the help messages are not
available -- not sure it is discoverable;
(4) Using mallard to generate an indexed manual. Not sure yet how I'll
integrate this into the activity, but is uses the strings from #2 and
#3 which are already in Pootle and artwork generated by the activity.
The advantage of the mallard approach is at least we'll get a help
manual that will work with yelp/browse even if the in-activity
experience is not better.
I'll let you know how it goes.
-walter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sweets Distribution
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 11:43:07AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all! Initial 0.94 Sucrose packages for Ubuntu-10.04 are ready for testing: http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-10.04/ The setup process is the same [1]. Will add packages for other, 10.04+, released Ubuntus soon. [1]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Installation For now, there are SweetsDistribution:0.94 repos for: * Ubuntu-11.10 * Ubuntu-11.04 * Ubuntu-10.10 * Ubuntu-10.04 Ubuntu-12.04 will be added as soon as it will be released. Were fixed issues with Fructose activities found in initial packages. For now, it seems to be, there is only issue w/ gtk-3 based Read in Ubuntu-11.10: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Releases -- I updated the Ununtu page for Ubuntu-11.10 On 03/07/2012 05:39 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 11:50:36PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Ubuntu-12.04 will be added as soon as it will be released. I am able to test against 12.04 beta1 ... that would help you shorten the time between Ubuntu release and Sweets Distribution release. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sweets Distribution
Page updated; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates Testing: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu-Tests Thanks; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar On 03/06/2012 03:43 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all! Initial 0.94 Sucrose packages for Ubuntu-10.04 are ready for testing: http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-10.04/ The setup process is the same [1]. Will add packages for other, 10.04+, released Ubuntus soon. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Installation ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar is available for download in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS; 10.10 11.04 with sweets_distribution. Wiki Page updated
On 03/04/2012 09:21 PM, James Cameron wrote: Thanks. I've simplified http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu some more, concentrating on how an Ubuntu user should try out Sugar. I've removed the sections that cover prior Sugar versions where Browse won't work, because that just isn't going to help any Ubuntu user I can imagine. Sweets Distribution or the virtual appliance method is a far quicker solution, with the benefit that Browse will work. Re: the prior versions: surf-115.xo does work on them as a compatible browser and is easy to install. We used it in the last version of Soas when Browse stopped working. It is available here: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo I disagree on removing the mention of the native Ubuntu sugar 0.88 that is available from software center. We get questions in #sugar all the time from Ubuntu users and an explanation of the versions in their repositories is appropriate. Sugar 0.88 with surf-115.xo is a fine distribution and works well. 0.90 was the only flawed sugar version and it is only available through Ubuntu's software center in 11.04 Ubuntu, where the default is 0.88. Ubuntu has cleaned up their act lately w.r.t. installing sugar from their software center, where it is available by just searching sugar. I just completed testing installs of sugar in all 3 Ubuntu versions from Ubuntu's software center of those last revisions and think that they should be included and mentioned. I've also removed the end of support dates for Ubuntu, because it isn't our place as Sugar Labs to say that, they might change, and mentioning it implies that Sugar is supported in the same way. Sugar is in the universe repository, and isn't a core part of Ubuntu. Lastly, I've hunted out every mention of sugar-emulator -f, which seems to be something that you'd like fixed which still isn't fixed, and placed it in one page which is linked to. If you try running on a 10 netbook, the -f (full screen) option is needed to get sugar to not present a display larger than the screen. I have been following Sugar in Ubuntu since David Farning began USR and trying to maintain working web pages describing it. I have placed a link to the discussions of the native versions of sugar at the bottom of the page. Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location
On 03/03/2012 07:35 PM, S Page wrote:
Hey all,
@Tabitha, I made your template prominent in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_template and continued the
archivist job of marking old stuff as {{obsolete|from 2008}}...
Is _anything_ under http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tests still a useful
test case? Maybe a mass delete or rename to Tests/old crap/Xyz is in
order?
A lot of those tests are linked from activity pages, e.g.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Memorize has a TST link, but most activities
have moved to sugarlabs.org where none (?) of them have testing
information.
@Sridhar, re:
The main piece of advice I'm getting is that we need a good test case
management system that allows for linking with defects. The links need
to be able to be tracked, searched and sorted.
Passive voice is to be avoided. Before spending time on features
like that, be very clear who exactly is going to use them. You can do
powerful querying on the 2008 w.l.o test cases, but... AFAICT nobody
cared! Maybe all you actually need is to add links to bug reports in
testing results, and in bug reports add links to the test case (if
any) the tester was following when the bug occurred.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:34, Samuel Greenfeldgreenf...@laptop.org wrote:
...[lots]...
Thanks for the background, very perceptive. As always I'm eager to
assist in the wiki side of things.
== Comments on various approaches ==
In my case I've been told to use a spreadsheet.
(More passive voice, love it ;-)
Did you see the spreadsheet in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_testing_meetings/2008-11-06/Displaying_testing_metrics_in_motivating_ways
?
One nice thing about using a Google Docs spreadsheet is you can
publish a form front-end that anyone can use to add a row for a test
result, see Carl Klitscher's form front-end
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pyBIsSK_3IlsHBpwk1EFNcQ
? @Tabitha, were you among the Wellington testers that supposedly used
this? If so, did you like it?
I think the Sugar activity testing spreadsheet
*1-)Tests-Sugar-0.94.1* resulted from a need to find 0.94 sugar
compatible activities
Authored by Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn It is flexable as a spreadsheet.
with most of the features a spreadsheet offers.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc#gid=0
appends columns for each test result, which is not amenable to a form
front-end.
2-) full Open Office spreadsheet
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Activities-Index-ASLO-f13-Mirabelle-f14-rawhide-Soas-tests.ods
and posting it on sugarlabs.wiki with links. This is hard use for a
number of reporters
3-)Another approach for activity testing are this wiki tables split list
on the sugarlabs wiki that I have been maintaining:
I was guided to the wiki table approach early on as a good compromise.
Activity tests A-I
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28A_to_I%29
Activity tests J-Z
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28J_to_Z%29
An older first attempt is listed here:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA
fedora for their test day testing uses wiki tables. . Here they do use
links to subpages of wiki tables for the actual test descriptions and
testing results.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Base
(is a sample from fedora 17 testing.)
These can be complex structures. I am not certain that anything is
gained here by the complexity. But you can link to a large number of
different tests and list their results
This format can be more difficult to use as the reporters have to be
familiar with wiki table editing.
but it does have sortable columns and can include links to other
information.
4-)Fedora also uses a master tracking bug in bugzilla that lists all
of the outstanding bugs for a release and close them as issues are
fixed. this does include links and attachments.
.
The Fedora Test Day approach on the //fedoraproject.org wiki
encourages tabular reporting of test results, but I haven't found a
page with any results, e.g.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-08-19_Sugar. It's
similar to the external spreadsheet approach. The choice between them
depends whether wiki linking (e.g. What links here to find out what
test days exercised a particular test case) is more important than
spreadsheet jockeying.
I
thinkhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Testing_Results
is pretty unusable. It would be much better to create a subpage for
each testing result, like SL.o used to e.g.
5-)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Testing_Results
a single wiki page as it is more flexible for reporters to edit and for
the kind of information it contains.
The only indexing is via the table of contents and linking.
I hope that this summary of the way I have looked at test result
reporting is helpful.
Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on #sugar IRC
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location
On 03/03/2012 08:51 PM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
On 03/03/2012 07:35 PM, S Page wrote:
Hey all,
@Tabitha, I made your template prominent in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_template and continued the
archivist job of marking old stuff as {{obsolete|from 2008}}...
Is _anything_ underhttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tests still a useful
test case? Maybe a mass delete or rename to Tests/old crap/Xyz is in
order?
A lot of those tests are linked from activity pages, e.g.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Memorize has a TST link, but most activities
have moved to sugarlabs.org where none (?) of them have testing
information.
@Sridhar, re:
The main piece of advice I'm getting is that we need a good test case
management system that allows for linking with defects. The links need
to be able to be tracked, searched and sorted.
Passive voice is to be avoided. Before spending time on features
like that, be very clear who exactly is going to use them. You can do
powerful querying on the 2008 w.l.o test cases, but... AFAICT nobody
cared! Maybe all you actually need is to add links to bug reports in
testing results, and in bug reports add links to the test case (if
any) the tester was following when the bug occurred.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:34, Samuel Greenfeldgreenf...@laptop.org wrote:
...[lots]...
Thanks for the background, very perceptive. As always I'm eager to
assist in the wiki side of things.
== Comments on various approaches ==
In my case I've been told to use a spreadsheet.
(More passive voice, love it ;-)
Did you see the spreadsheet in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_testing_meetings/2008-11-06/Displaying_testing_metrics_in_motivating_ways
?
One nice thing about using a Google Docs spreadsheet is you can
publish a form front-end that anyone can use to add a row for a test
result, see Carl Klitscher's form front-end
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pyBIsSK_3IlsHBpwk1EFNcQ
? @Tabitha, were you among the Wellington testers that supposedly used
this? If so, did you like it?
I think the Sugar activity testing spreadsheet
*1-)Tests-Sugar-0.94.1* resulted from a need to find 0.94 sugar
compatible activities
Authored by Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn It is flexable as a spreadsheet.
with most of the features a spreadsheet offers.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc#gid=0
appends columns for each test result, which is not amenable to a form
front-end.
2-) full Open Office spreadsheet
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Activities-Index-ASLO-f13-Mirabelle-f14-rawhide-Soas-tests.ods
and posting it on sugarlabs.wiki with links. This is hard use for a
number of reporters
3-)Another approach for activity testing are this wiki tables split
list on the sugarlabs wiki that I have been maintaining:
I was guided to the wiki table approach early on as a good compromise.
Activity tests A-I
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28A_to_I%29
Activity tests J-Z
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix%28J_to_Z%29
An older first attempt is listed here:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA
fedora for their test day testing uses wiki tables. . Here they do use
links to subpages of wiki tables for the actual test descriptions and
testing results.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Base
(is a sample from fedora 17 testing.)
Here is an example of testing results: (I had to search for it.)
http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Installoldid=273509#Instructions
These can be complex structures. I am not certain that anything is
gained here by the complexity. But you can link to a large number of
different tests and list their results
This format can be more difficult to use as the reporters have to be
familiar with wiki table editing.
but it does have sortable columns and can include links to other
information.
4-)Fedora also uses a master tracking bug in bugzilla that lists all
of the outstanding bugs for a release and close them as issues are
fixed. this does include links and attachments.
.
The Fedora Test Day approach on the //fedoraproject.org wiki
encourages tabular reporting of test results, but I haven't found a
page with any results, e.g.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-08-19_Sugar. It's
similar to the external spreadsheet approach. The choice between them
depends whether wiki linking (e.g. What links here to find out what
test days exercised a particular test case) is more important than
spreadsheet jockeying.
I
thinkhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Testing_Results
is pretty unusable. It would be much better to create a subpage for
each testing result, like SL.o used to e.g.
5-)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Testing_Results
a single wiki page as it is more flexible for reporters to edit
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Record with camera and microphone input on VirtualBox / VMWare
On 03/01/2012 11:22 AM, Gary Martin wrote: On 1 Mar 2012, at 15:31, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi SoaS folks... plus Greg! If you do find a way to do this it would be wonderful. But, it will have to be easy to explain to parents, teachers, and kids. They are our target audience (right?). I'll forward a copy of this to Greg Dreshler up at UCSB. He was one of my booth volunteers from SCaLE 10X and is very knowledgable about how to use Parallels. Maybe he will have some ideas too. If you guys can figure this out and show me how, I will write the documentation to make it easy for our target audience to do. I think USB devices with USB passthrough might be the easiest to do on all various different virt platforms. I believe all of them support USB passthrough and on the SoaS side we shouldn't need anything special in particular as it should just see a new USB device. Just tested on VirtualBox 4.1.8 for OSX on a MacBookPro i7 in GNOME 3.3.5 with cheese Defined the USB camera for pass though: Apple Inc.Facetime HD Camera (Built in) (0516) I got a green light on camera but no image. Yes, when I last tested on my Mac (last late year) the camera device was passed through to the VM, but back then Fedora did not recognise the hardware correctly, the Mac hw camera led would light up when in 'use' but otherwise just a black image. Sorry I haven't tested a more recent build. Regards, --Gary Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sweets Distribution
I just updated the Ubuntu Sugar page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar To reflect the changes to the wiki Ubuntu page Tom Gilliard satellit On 02/29/2012 03:39 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:22:25AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM, James Cameronqu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:33:29PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Can we have a PPA for Ubuntu? What we have now is a PPA for Sweets, hosted on Sugar servers. What you are asking for is to provide those under the Ubuntu Launchpad infrastructure. As far as I can tell, the only advantage would be to shorten the command line required to install. Have it easily discoverable by the wider Ubuntu community? I don't know what mechanism would lead to discovery. The only way I've found Ubuntu PPAs is by visiting Launchpad pages for projects, or by referral from someone. The latter mechanism is equal to the way we mention the Sugar Sweets repository on the Sweets page on the Sugar Wiki. (I think Sugar moving to Launchpad to be a large change without enough benefit to outweigh the cost. I maintain Netrek with some Launchpad involvement. A hope I had was that it would cause more volunteers to appear ... but that never happened.) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sweets Distribution
On 02/29/2012 03:39 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:22:25AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM, James Cameronqu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:33:29PM +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Can we have a PPA for Ubuntu? What we have now is a PPA for Sweets, hosted on Sugar servers. What you are asking for is to provide those under the Ubuntu Launchpad infrastructure. As far as I can tell, the only advantage would be to shorten the command line required to install. Have it easily discoverable by the wider Ubuntu community? I do not understand how a user copy-pastes this command into terminal. I thought the previous format was easier for a user to understand: SV=0.94 UV=11.04 SD=http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution: sudo apt-add-repository deb $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/ ./ wget -qO- $SD/$SV/Ubuntu-$UV/Release.key | sudo apt-key add - Tom Gilliard I don't know what mechanism would lead to discovery. The only way I've found Ubuntu PPAs is by visiting Launchpad pages for projects, or by referral from someone. The latter mechanism is equal to the way we mention the Sugar Sweets repository on the Sweets page on the Sugar Wiki. (I think Sugar moving to Launchpad to be a large change without enough benefit to outweigh the cost. I maintain Netrek with some Launchpad involvement. A hope I had was that it would cause more volunteers to appear ... but that never happened.) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-emulator
On 02/28/2012 04:48 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Kalpa Welivitigodacallka...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I am on F16 64 bit and I have sugar-emulator installed. I would like to test chat activity and is there a possibility that I run two sugar-emulators on the same machine so that they act as two different sugar instances? That is I can chat between the two as two sugar users. It won't work. I suggest you join the general jabber server at jabber.sugarlabs.org and use that. Jabber.sugarlabs.org is running now - I just checked it ( 5:15 AM PST) and see 25 other users XO avatars. Try booting a live CD on both machines at the same time to test your network connections: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads The live CD has the jabber set and Chat works. These short tutorials may help: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/How_to_use_Chat Also: reboot after changing the jabber in the sugar control panel Tom Gilliard satellit I tried as instructed here [1]. And tried several other jabber servers listed here [2]. But I couldn't see any other in my neighborhood view. I doubt whether this is due to a technical issue or actually there are no other users available. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/How_to_connect_Sugar_to_a_Jabber_network [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community_Jabber_servers Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Can we be a little more friendly to Ubuntu users
I just updated the wiki page with your suggestions: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu Thanks; Tom Gilliard On 02/27/2012 12:09 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: I made some change to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Sweets_Distribution This section is linked from the Ubuntu page. I think it is slightly more clear now. I do not why the section title was used for the maybe most important link. This confused me at least. The raw repository link (rather than apt line) was not so friendly. So I replaced it with the Sweets_Distribution wiki page. People can find real instructions here, at least. Also, because instructions for synaptic is not available yet. I changed synaptic to more general apt. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Can we be a little more friendly to Ubuntu users
On 02/26/2012 05:49 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Hi, all My main reference is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu , I assume its accuracy. Please correct me when needed. The BIG picture I got: Install Sugar 0.90 is easy, but it is obsolete. Sugar is 0.94 is recommended, but, how to install it? What to do with the fancy link http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.04/ Look at these links: How to install sugar 0.94 in Ubuntu 11.04 (Try to copy-paste the commands listed on the page into a Ubuntu 11.04 terminal) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Sweets_Distribution_0.94 A VirtualBox importable appliance that works in most OS's I have tested it in Ubuntu linux and OSX NEW-completed yesterday (All of the work has been done here, just Download the 2 files and import into Virtualbox) VirtualBox top menu bar: File/import_appliance http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Ubuntu_11.04-sweets-distribution_sugar_0.94 Tom Gilliard satellit_on #sugar IRC freenode I happened to know what is /etc/apt/sources.list . http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/sources.list.5.html You should know what I mean, BUT: Should we have some documentation for adding this repository in CLI and GUI? Should we have a PPA to make things easier? I mean PPA's apt line is simpler and there is a CLI shortcut for adding PPA. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu I'm not a Ubuntu or Linux expert anyway. I have no access to a working Ubuntu temporarily, so, let me collect some discussion first. Thank you in advance. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Can we be a little more friendly to Ubuntu users
Ubuntu sweets-distribution is alsroots port of sugar 0.94 to Ubuntu with some Dextrose features. Works well-just copy-paste commands from page into Ubuntu 11.04 gnome-classic terminal http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Installation Tom Gilliard On 02/26/2012 06:08 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote: On Sun, February 26, 2012 8:49 pm, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Hi, all My main reference is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu , I assume its accuracy. Please correct me when needed. The BIG picture I got: Install Sugar 0.90 is easy, but it is obsolete. Sugar is 0.94 is recommended, but, how to install it? The big picture answer, apart from instructions for non-standard installations from non-standard repositories, is to work with the Debian and Ubuntu packagers to streamline the packaging of new Sugar releases in order to get them into the upgrade stream in a timely manner. If somebody involved in the process can explain exactly what is needed, I expect that we can recruit some more helpers. (Similarly for RPM packaging for Red Hat and other distributions that use that format.) My understanding is that the process can be automated in whole or in part if the dependencies don't change radically between versions. Someone like Jonas Smedegaard who is involved in the process can correct me if I have misunderstood, and can greatly amplify what I am telling you. What to do with the fancy link http://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/SweetsDistribution:/0.94/Ubuntu-11.04/ I happened to know what is /etc/apt/sources.list . http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/sources.list.5.html You should know what I mean, BUT: Should we have some documentation for adding this repository in CLI and GUI? Should we have a PPA to make things easier? I mean PPA's apt line is simpler and there is a CLI shortcut for adding PPA. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu I'm not a Ubuntu or Linux expert anyway. I have no access to a working Ubuntu temporarily, so, let me collect some discussion first. Thank you in advance. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Can we be a little more friendly to Ubuntu users
1-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics (Discusses alsroots' Sweets) and has overview. Real link is here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution 2-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution (has the link you sent) and was developed specifically for Trisquel Toast. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast This is special repository to add to Ubuntu or Trisquel http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel Sweets is the more general case. It is still under development by alsroot This is an Advanced_Topic : - ) Tom Gilliard satellit_ om #sugar IRC freenode On 02/26/2012 09:19 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: The above link should work. However, how to find the link from my first link? I think my link would be regarded as kind of portal. Also, what about Ubuntu other than version 11.04? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Easy Hacks in activities
Fully sugarize firefox-6.xo?[1] It starts and runs fine in most versions of sugar [2]; but has greyed circle and firefox icons in the frame while it runs and exits with a (failed to start) pop-up. [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4262/firefox-6.xo [2]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar On 02/09/2012 06:19 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I have received questions from volunteers about easy tasks to start hacking in Sugar. Of course, start with activities is easier than core Sugar, then I reviewed the open ticket in the activities and added a easy-hack tag to tickets I think can be solved by a newbie hacker. The list is here: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedgroup=componentorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=prioritycol=milestonekeywords=~easy-hack http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedgroup=componentorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=prioritycol=milestonekeywords=%7Eeasy-hack We used to have another similar tag sugar-love, but I found the tickets no so easy to solve, and the list not maintained. If anybody will maintain/use the sugar-love tag, we can keep it, if not may be is a good idea remove the tag. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Activity Errors in Fedora-17-Alpha-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS please fix.
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[Sugar-devel] Fix for Browse 131.xo on XO-1 os833- (how to remove it)
If you drag-drop Browse 131.xo to an XO-1 on os833 (sugar 0.94) you will find that browse will not start and you cannot erase it (greyed out option). Effectively you have lost your Browser. (browse 131 and 130 are not compatible uses gtk +3**) There will be a lot of releases of new activities using gtk +3 . This tecnique may be a way to revert the critical applications where erase is greyed out. Be sure to visit [2] to see if the activity version is compatable first. To Fix: Drag-drop Browse 127.xo [1] from a USB stick and click OK to install an older version. Then go to My Settings/Software update and click on Browse 129.1 and update it. [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4024/browse-127.xo Works and saves re-imaging the XO-1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4024/browse-127.xo [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GCompris on Sugar 0.94
On 02/03/2012 12:32 PM, Lionel Laské wrote: Hi all, It seems that no GCompris activity works on 0.94. All activities exit with an error on pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated in the Log. On the website, compatibility is mention from 0.82 to 0.90. Is there a known issue ? Is there any existing fix ? Look at these tests: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results Gcompris.xo (17 and 15) starts in several distros in 0.94 - (Package of GCompris Programs -114 activities with music v9.3) Trisquel 5 Toast (Ubuntu based sweets-distribution) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast XO-1 and XO-1.5:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.0 sugar 0.95.1 (testing) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3757139name=Fedora-17-Nightly-20120202.09-i686-Live-soas.iso Gcompris_admin.xo fails in all versions: Could not find the board menu or plug in, execution error Thanks for your help. Best regards from France. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3 Questions From A New Sugar User Age 21
On 01/26/2012 01:40 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 25 January 2012 03:13, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:49 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Can I install SoaS to hard disk? enter liveinst from the sugar-terminal Is there a reason why this isn't exposed in the GUI? Maybe it can be a CP applet? I think this is a valuable feature. Take a look at this new tutorial: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/liveinst It is listed here also along with some other tutorials: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#F16_Sugar_install_from_a_booted_Live_CD.2FUSB_with_liveinst Cordially; Tom Gilliard Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3 Questions From A New Sugar User Age 21
On 01/26/2012 02:07 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 27 January 2012 08:55, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/26/2012 01:40 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 25 January 2012 03:13, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:49 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Can I install SoaS to hard disk? enter liveinst from the sugar-terminal Is there a reason why this isn't exposed in the GUI? Maybe it can be a CP applet? I think this is a valuable feature. Take a look at this new tutorial: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/liveinst It is listed here also along with some other tutorials: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#F16_Sugar_install_from_a_booted_Live_CD.2FUSB_with_liveinst Thanks. The problem, however, is that this is not easily discoverable. Also listed here: Are you new to Sugar? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads A newcomer shouldn't have to go searching through the wiki to find a way to install SoaS. And using the terminal is not exactly a friendly introduction to the platform :S Cheers, Sridhar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3 Questions From A New Sugar User Age 21
On 01/26/2012 02:07 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 27 January 2012 08:55, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/26/2012 01:40 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 25 January 2012 03:13, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:49 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Can I install SoaS to hard disk? enter liveinst from the sugar-terminal Is there a reason why this isn't exposed in the GUI? Maybe it can be a CP applet? I think this is a valuable feature. Take a look at this new tutorial: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/liveinst It is listed here also along with some other tutorials: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#F16_Sugar_install_from_a_booted_Live_CD.2FUSB_with_liveinst Thanks. The problem, however, is that this is not easily discoverable. A newcomer shouldn't have to go searching through the wiki to find a way to install SoaS. And using the terminal is not exactly a friendly introduction to the platform :S Another thought; The obscurity of this command may be on purpose. Like sugar-terminal not being a favorite on SoaS, It can interact with the users Hard Disk. So it is not supposed to be too easy for kids to access. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ Cheers, Sridhar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3 Questions From A New Sugar User Age 21
On 01/24/2012 07:49 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Hi, all. If I select a wrong list, please let me know. I'm an undergraduate and an enthusiastic Linux user. I joined a OLPC event in Hong Kong recently. I appreciate OLPC's principles. In particular, I find OLPC XO's software interesting, which is based on Sugar. So, I tried SoaS (http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/) today and would like to recommend Sugar to parents I know. However, I have questions. 1. Can I install SoaS to hard disk? enter liveinst from the sugar-terminal or use the f16 netinstall cd and select configure now and select only the sugar-desktop. I know we can install a Linux distribution first, then install Sugar package. But most parents are Windows folks, right? People may want to test Sugar in their VirtualBox, VMWare or so. Booting from virtual CD-ROM and installing into hard disk is the most intuitive, right? I'm using VirtualBox and SoaS now. I cannot save anything. We may need to lock children to Sugar. The hard disk installation is the most reliable one. (I know all the issues can be solved with hacks, but this project is definitely not towards geeks, right?) 2. The HTML version of Sugar manual have broken images. Please fix it. http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ The PDF version is OK, though. 3. Not a really a question. I find the SugarLabs wiki confusing. try looking at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions_Complete_Listing for information about sugar on other distributions. Have Fun Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar freenode IRC When I discover SoaS, I think Sugar is a Fedora Spin. However, when I know I can install Sugar in Ubuntu, I think Sugar is a very special Desktop Environment. So Sugar is somehow similar to KDE while SoaS is somehow similar to KDE Spin. People may not understand why you are always talking about LiveUSB with Journal. Thank you all the contributors in advance! ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH browse] Append the current Sugar (Sucrose) version to the user agent
On 01/23/2012 07:07 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote:
El día 16 de enero de 2012 08:52, Simon Schampijer
si...@schampijer.de escribió:
This identifier is used in ASLO to determine which activities
can be downloaded (ASLO is parsing the user agent of the Browser
to provide an appropriate activity version, if it fails to get
the Sugar version from the agent string, it uses the last stable version,
which is 0.94 at the moment).
Tested, previously I got:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.4+ (KHTML, like Gecko)
Version/5.0 Safari/535.4+
Now I got:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.4+ (KHTML, like Gecko)
Version/5.0 Safari/535.4+ Sugar Labs/0.96
And works in activities.sugarlabs.org .
Comment: If a user wants to download the activity.xo file to a USB-stick
for installation later to a different version of Sugar?
Maybe a check-box to bypass the filter on the ASLO page should be added.
Tom Gilliard
One thing that is not perfectly handled by this patch is that we
need to modify the user agent for every WebView (see [1]).
I don't find a problem adding the user agent to each webview, at least
until the webkit hackers add a global setting.
Furthermore we need to modify the Sugar version in Browse accordingly
with each Sugar release as the Sugar version is only availble in the
shell and not in the toolkit.
I hope the tookit changes accordingly so we don't have to hardcore
that in activities.
Acked-by: Manuel Quiñonesma...@laptop.org
[1] https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-gtk/2012-January/000893.html
Signed-off-by: Simon Schampijersi...@laptop.org
---
browser.py |7 +++
1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/browser.py b/browser.py
index 83cc7ea..c5165db 100644
--- a/browser.py
+++ b/browser.py
@@ -383,9 +383,16 @@ class Browser(WebKit.WebView):
([str])),
}
+CURRENT_SUGAR_VERSION = '0.96'
+
def __init__(self):
WebKit.WebView.__init__(self)
+web_settings = self.get_settings()
+identifier = ' Sugar Labs/' + self.CURRENT_SUGAR_VERSION
+web_settings.props.user_agent += identifier
+self.set_settings(web_settings)
+
# Reference to the global history and callbacks to handle it:
self._global_history = globalhistory.get_global_history()
self.connect('notify::load-status', self.__load_status_changed_cb)
--
1.7.7.5
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH browse] Append the current Sugar (Sucrose) version to the user agent
On 01/23/2012 07:30 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:25 PM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: On 01/23/2012 07:07 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: El día 16 de enero de 2012 08:52, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de escribió: This identifier is used in ASLO to determine which activities can be downloaded (ASLO is parsing the user agent of the Browser to provide an appropriate activity version, if it fails to get the Sugar version from the agent string, it uses the last stable version, which is 0.94 at the moment). Tested, previously I got: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.4+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0 Safari/535.4+ Now I got: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.4+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0 Safari/535.4+ Sugar Labs/0.96 And works in activities.sugarlabs.org . Comment: If a user wants to download the activity.xo file to a USB-stick for installation later to a different version of Sugar? Maybe a check-box to bypass the filter on the ASLO page should be added. Tom Gilliard Hi Tom, thanks for the comment. I don't see this as a too common use case to justify adding UI for it. Simon; I am thinking sneaker-net where a USB-stick is taken back to a remote location off net to add activities. Maybe downloaded on a computer to the USB-stick with a fast internet connection with a different browser. The alternate is for them to Download and burn: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#ASLOxo-6 (3.2 GB DVD .iso) which has over 500 sugar activitiy .xo files on it. Regards; Tom Gilliard satellit_ Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Announcing: ASLOxo-6-3 DVD -Updated: Added new activities from the sugar-devel list up to: 01/21/2012
This is what I have been using to test activities with in a DVD format: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar * http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo6-3.iso 3.2 GB (DVD) *Updated: Added new activities from the sugar-devel list up to:* 01/21/2012 To View tests and compatibility of some of the included Activities (works off-line) on the included *Activity_Matrix* web page; Open the *Activity_Matrix.html* file in the *Activity_List Folder* on the DVD with Firefox, or in Sugar Browse 129 or Surf 115. Or. Copy contents of DVD to a USB-stick and open the USB-stick *Activity_Matrix.html* file in Sugar Browse 129 or Surf 115. - (Browse 130 does not open it in f17) * Suggestion: *copy only the ones* you want from the DVD to a (fat 16/32) USB-stick; Insert it and use it to drag-drop install a custom suite of activities to Sugar. Activities.xo files can be installed by drag-dropping them into the Sugar Journal from a mounted DVD or a USB to which they have been copied. * *Use as an off-line sneaker net- Download one time and have an off-line library of Sugar-activities on hand.* ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Nightly-20120120.10-i686-Live-soas.iso is first Nightly Compose to Boot. (Testing report)
Finally the Nightly Composes work. First look at f17 Soas: -liveinst fails -no wireless AP or Ad-hoc -Cat-5 wired network OK. -liveusb-creator makes live USB's Preliminary report; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Nightly-20120120.10-i686-Live-soas.iso Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] browse 130 is not compatible as it uses gtk +3 - should it be identified as not compatible with most present version of sugar?
http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4024/browse-130.xo Should this listing somehow identify this as a version that will not work with most sugar versions? maybe browse*-130.xo ? Until the conversion of activities is completed. Tom Giliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
On 01/19/2012 06:09 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I agree with Chris, this is a good job, but will take time to the developers to use it. There are a few things you can do to help: * Create a page in the wiki explaining what you did and pointing to the google doc, if not will be lost in the mailing list. I just elevated this to a separate heading in the sugarlabs wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Activity_Testing Shows both lists. -Google Spread sheet (Authored by Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn ) XO-1 (os833 sugar 0.94.1) -Wiki sheet with up to date testing of activities on XO-1 and XO-1.5 (os833 sugar 0.94.1) plus Soasv5; SoaSv6; and Trisquel 5 Sugar. Tom Gilliard satellit_ * You can request be a Editor in ASLO, and change the compatibility field in the activities you know are working. (I think Rafael dir...@gmail.com mailto:dir...@gmail.com or Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org mailto:alsr...@activitycentral.org can give you permissions) Thanks for doing this work, don't give up! :) Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com mailto:alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Good! But now... someone will do something with this information? Or our work was for nothing? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:31:14 -0800 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com To: alan...@hotmail.com mailto:alan...@hotmail.com CC: de...@lists.laptop.org mailto:de...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; a...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:a...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1 Alan Hi - Today I added activity tests for XO-1 and XO-1.5 (os 883; sugar 0.94.1 ) here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results These include many on the ASLOxo6-2 CD transferred to a 4GB USB-stick http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo6-2.iso I also entered some of the os883 0.94.1 activity testing results into a new column on your google spreadsheet. Cordially; Tom Giliard satellit_ on #sugar On 01/14/2012 06:15 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Some days ago I make a complete list of the activities of the SugarLabs page... Now, I make a test of the activities that only have compatibility with old sugar (from 0.82 to 0.88) There are 81 activities that runs to 0.90 or 0.92 that need to be testeds. I think that this activities works good... Between 0.90 to 0.94 not are some changes in Sugar... Only test public activities. The experimental are 82. And without page: 38. Most of the activities run correct in 0.94.1 (Ensamble 883 - Firmware: Q2E48). The major problem is that sugar changes, and the developers can't follow the train... In some activities, when you use the mouse, and request it, the value x, y were integers.. now, are float.. the same problem in another things of the screen.. that waiting a integer and have a float.. I have an activity: Conozco Alimentos that have that problem.. When I make it, not have this problem.. In the I know America, I fix it... Another problem with SugarLabs page: you need make another version to can select between that Sugar works... Well.. the list:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc http://%20https%3a//docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc The column enters means if you can enters to the activity: the red means that have error while load... or directly: not load never.. The column notes have the comments for each activity. When I said: log with some inecessary information I try to say that not are errors, but are some information that not are useful. I await your comments... Regards! Alan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org mailto:de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
Done changed to : * '''Use the ← leftright → links in the colored bar below :to connect to another part of this Annotated Guide to Sugar''' Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 01/19/2012 02:57 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:25:28PM +, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Could you edit the page then? Remove any text that shouldn't be there, and fix any text that is wrong. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 02:55 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: P.S. - The link is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit and I really think it should be moved to the users wiki page. I am hoping that this tutorial will be usefull enough to be linked/moved to a page of the new sugarlabs web page http://christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/ explanation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eLKBgFb2nAok6kQ_iyOTPlXISc5NVemtGstZThw78X0/edit?pli=1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Eduardo 2012/1/19 Eduardo H. Silvahoboprim...@gmail.com: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange-first message with held do to commands
Original Message Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:12:17 -0800 From: Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com To: Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: * *To reset only the ssh keys*, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use |(rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*)| in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar |(su shutdown -h now|). This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files.* * I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
held for moderator approval so forewarded again Original Message Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:33:19 -0800 From: Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com To: Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com On 01/19/2012 04:19 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: 2012/1/20 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: To reset only the ssh keys, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key* in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar su shutdown -h now. This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files. Then why include the first instruction? It deletes the Journal. Eduardo It also prepares sugar (Soas) to a virgin state ready for the next user: *To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries*, enter the command (|rm ~ rf /.sugar|) in the Terminal activity. Then shutdown sugar (|su shutdown -h now| ) . This will clear all Learner information and let you start with a fresh install. Skipping this will result in collisions in the Neighborhood view of the Jabber network. Verify the presence of the *.sugar* directory by entering(|ls -a| )in Terminal. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface#How_To_clear_Sugar_of_these_keys_and_the_name_and_color_entries If this is too advanced, for the tutorial, It can be removed. The network collisions problem is real. some people use dd to copy a usb and will have many problems if multiple identical copies are used. Tom Gilliard satellit_ I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Set_up_MacBook_to_Open_VirtualBox_automatically_when_you_power_it_on
Caryl; Glad you could sucessfully burn the Trisquel CD. It sounds like your Mac Graphics Card is incompatable. You may be able to start it by modifying startup parameters by adding nomodesetor vesa to boot line . (esc tab at boot menu (after language selection on Trisquel)- edit boot line This is rather too advanced I fear. OR Use SoaS-v5 with simple graphics selected (2nd menu selection at boot screen) I do not think SoaS-v6 has this option. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar I still recommend VirtualBox which interfaces graphics and wireless quite well. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html Look for OSX version * Licensing Information. VirtualBox is released as *GPL*= Freely available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and Solaris x-86 platforms. VirtualBox Extension Pack = *Free for Personal Use*, available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and Solaris x-86 platforms. (Extension Pack is required for USB 2 Access.) Trisquel-5.0-sugar *RECOMMENDED* * Sugar Desktop ONLY Trisquel 5.0 is based on the previous Ubuntu release, 11.04 Natty Narwhal. Sugar 0.94.1 * More Info: TOAST http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast * download and import 2 files: 1. http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Trisquel_5-Sugar-disk1.vmdk 540M 2. http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Trisquel_5-Sugar.ovf 12K autologon starts at color selection use ==(Back) to change name Auto logon enter password on restart User = sugar password = sugaruser 4-GB Virtual Box hard disc English and English keyboard USA-Los Angeles (Pacific timezone) --- Here is how I set VirtualBox to load at Boot on my Mac: -(I sent this to you at the end of last year) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Set_up_MacBook_to_Open_VirtualBox_automatically_when_you_power_it_on * Open System Preferences/Accounts use Spotlight: magnifying glass on right end of top bar search for accounts Choose System Preferences| Accounts * Click on your user unlock login Options/ Login Items (to right) Click Add(+) button to the right of the accounts list Select an application *VirtualBox - Application* and click add. lock * Boot Mac Mac opens directly to VirtualBox VirtualBox Manager Pointed to VirtualBox Appliance - (the last one used) You can select another on list == Start * Now when the MacBook is powered on, it will boot up in VirtualBox pointed at the last Virtual Appliance used *There can be multiple VirtualBox appliances, belonging to individual students/teachers to choose from, on the same Mac.* Nice school set up for 1 Mac with multiple student's Sugar. *easy to archive* with *export* function of VirtualBox - save weekly? backups for each of the students. To roll back: import the previously exported file - quick and easy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
Alan Hi - Today I added activity tests for XO-1 and XO-1.5 (os 883; sugar 0.94.1 ) here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results These include many on the ASLOxo6-2 CD transferred to a 4GB USB-stick http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo6-2.iso I also entered some of the os883 0.94.1 activity testing results into a new column on your google spreadsheet. Cordially; Tom Giliard satellit_ on #sugar On 01/14/2012 06:15 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Some days ago I make a complete list of the activities of the SugarLabs page... Now, I make a test of the activities that only have compatibility with old sugar (from 0.82 to 0.88) There are 81 activities that runs to 0.90 or 0.92 that need to be testeds. I think that this activities works good... Between 0.90 to 0.94 not are some changes in Sugar... Only test public activities. The experimental are 82. And without page: 38. Most of the activities run correct in 0.94.1 (Ensamble 883 - Firmware: Q2E48). The major problem is that sugar changes, and the developers can't follow the train... In some activities, when you use the mouse, and request it, the value x, y were integers.. now, are float.. the same problem in another things of the screen.. that waiting a integer and have a float.. I have an activity: Conozco Alimentos that have that problem.. When I make it, not have this problem.. In the I know America, I fix it... Another problem with SugarLabs page: you need make another version to can select between that Sugar works... Well.. the list:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc %20https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc The column enters means if you can enters to the activity: the red means that have error while load... or directly: not load never.. The column notes have the comments for each activity. When I said: log with some inecessary information I try to say that not are errors, but are some information that not are useful. I await your comments... Regards! Alan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Odp: Sugar versions - Activities
Alan; I have finished my testing of sugar 0.92.1 and 0.94.1 on Live CD's: (All of the activities on ASLOxo Cd plus most of the newest activities posted to the devel list) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results (I am used to editing wiki tables. So I proceeded to update work done last year on earlier sugar versions as part of a proposed feature of sugar.) I am not sure if it is OK for me to edit your google spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc#gid=0 I find that a lot of the activities listed do run well on 0.94.1 and 0.92. Is it Ok for me to change the entries for the correct working range? Also: Trisquel 5-sugar (TOAST) is closer to Dextrose2 (XO-1) and has many of it's features. As a consequence, activities will sometimes run on on Toast 0.94.1 sugar but not on Fedora 16 based, SoaS-v6 Pineapple sugar 0.94.1. Toast is based on alroot's Sweets-Distribution (Ubuntu 11.04) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution Collaboratively and Cordially; Tom Gilliard volunteer tester for sugarlabs satellit_ on #sugar On 01/06/2012 05:44 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Sorry, but.. is not easier to edit a google doc? Make a table in format Wiki I never like it... Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:39:16 -0800 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: sdaly...@gmail.com CC: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; dgran...@frks.pl Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Odp: Sugar versions - Activities I have set up a new wiki page for testing reports of the current Activities on XO-1; SoaS-v5; and SoaS-v6. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results (The older results are also on the same wiki page) feel free to edit the wiki page. Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ #sugar IRC On 01/06/2012 07:38 AM, Sean DALY wrote: ps. wouldn't it be sensible to do the same on SoaS? Dominik - see Tom Gilliard's previous work at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Odp: Sugar versions - Activities
On 01/15/2012 02:03 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: I am not sure if it is OK for me to edit your google spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc#gid=0 I find that a lot of the activities listed do run well on 0.94.1 and 0.92. Is it Ok for me to change the entries for the correct working range? In the spreadheet there are the version that the SugarLabs page says that the activity runs... I don't know who have permissions to change the versions in the SL page... The long way is try to contact the developer, and say to him: your activity works on 0.94. Please upload a new version with compatibility between xx and 0.94. I had such a permission from alsroot - but have not used it for over a year. (ASLO edits) let me see If I can still get in The columns enters and notes is to check if the activities run on 0.94. All my test are in a XO 1.0 with os883 (Sugar 0.94.1). Mine were done with: Dextrose2 os508dx (Sugar 0.88.1) on my G1G1-XO-1* os874 (sugar 0.92.2) on a XO-1.5 loaned from OLPC** Build 874 Sugar 0.92.2 firmware Q3b13 * this is the latest version listed on the Wiki Projects page : Dextrose ** This must have been a test version as http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dxo2/xo1.5/intl/os508dx.zd is the current one. I am downloading this now and will test it. The Soas Pineapple is exactly the os883? No there are similarities but it is sweets-distribution by alsroot. for Trisquel 5-sugar (TOAST) with some elements of Dextrose2 Exist a difference between check on XO 1.0 and in other pc with Soas? I would expect so ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
Alan: This is a very nice set of tests. Since I last responded to your previous set of tests; I have continued to work on very recent activities versus Soas-v5; Trisquel 5 Sugar (Toast) and SoaS-v6 using a live CD and XO-1 and XO-1.5 with the latest software. [1] I tested activities using the contents of the ASLOxo CD [2] plus the current new activities announced on the sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org loaded in a 8GB USB-stick. This is work is still in progress. Older versions of SoaS v1-SoaS-v4 activity tests, that were done over a year ago, are located here [3] I hope somehow that our work can get consolidated. This information is very important for the community. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#ASLOxo-6 [3]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix On 01/14/2012 06:15 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Some days ago I make a complete list of the activities of the SugarLabs page... Now, I make a test of the activities that only have compatibility with old sugar (from 0.82 to 0.88) There are 81 activities that runs to 0.90 or 0.92 that need to be testeds. I think that this activities works good... Between 0.90 to 0.94 not are some changes in Sugar... Only test public activities. The experimental are 82. And without page: 38. Most of the activities run correct in 0.94.1 (Ensamble 883 - Firmware: Q2E48). The major problem is that sugar changes, and the developers can't follow the train... In some activities, when you use the mouse, and request it, the value x, y were integers.. now, are float.. the same problem in another things of the screen.. that waiting a integer and have a float.. I have an activity: Conozco Alimentos that have that problem.. When I make it, not have this problem.. In the I know America, I fix it... Another problem with SugarLabs page: you need make another version to can select between that Sugar works... Well.. the list:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc %20https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc The column enters means if you can enters to the activity: the red means that have error while load... or directly: not load never.. The column notes have the comments for each activity. When I said: log with some inecessary information I try to say that not are errors, but are some information that not are useful. I await your comments... Regards! Alan ___ ASLO mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/aslo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Odp: Sugar versions - Activities
I have copied the page to a new location and recommend editing the wiki page for new information as we do testing: It is a wiki Contributions welcome http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/ActivityMatrix I plan to start working on and modifying it for latest the latest ASLO activities / Soas Versions Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC On 01/06/2012 07:38 AM, Sean DALY wrote: ps. wouldn't it be sensible to do the same on SoaS? Dominik - see Tom Gilliard's previous work at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Odp: Sugar versions - Activities
I have set up a new wiki page for testing reports of the current Activities on XO-1; SoaS-v5; and SoaS-v6. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results (The older results are also on the same wiki page) feel free to edit the wiki page. Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ #sugar IRC On 01/06/2012 07:38 AM, Sean DALY wrote: ps. wouldn't it be sensible to do the same on SoaS? Dominik - see Tom Gilliard's previous work at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Labs Website Revamp IRC Mtg 1-8-12 11:00amEST(16:00UTC)
On 01/05/2012 04:10 PM, John Tierney wrote: Hello All, Happy New Year! As the New Year starts we are making another effort to restart the Sugar Labs Website Revamp. Designer and community member Christian Marc Schmidt has put together a Design Template along with a Sugar Labs Website Refresh: Content Document. These two documents along with the work and content gathering done by RIT Co-op students Mike Devine and JT Mengel last year will hopefully give us solid basis to start from. Our Kick-off IRC meeting will take place this Sunday Jan. 8th on#sugar-meeting at 11:00amEST(16:00UTC), after the Design Meeting surrounding Write To Journal Anytime taking place at 10:00amEST. Please join us if you are available-our key shortcoming last year in our attempt was a lack of content to effectively create the new site. All help is Welcome and needed. I suggest looking at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface (This is a set of linked wiki pages to introduce teachers/students to sugar) Also the same content on a USB-stick for use; where there is no Internet available; on XO-1; XO-1.5 ; SoaS and Trisquel-sugar (and soon for an Intel MacBook) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#SCK-USB_.28CD.iso.29 I hope this fits in to what you want for the new wiki. Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC Because this is in the Building and Design stage please email me at: jtis4...@hotmail.com to get links to the preview documents if you are interested in being part of the process. Our First Step is to give Christian the Thumbs Up/Make Enhancements to the Design. Our Second Step will look to get individual community members to take responsibility in Content Gathering Areas that flow out of the documents Christian has prepared. Our Third Step is to execute Content Gathering Upon receiving enough content Christian will then commence the build phase. We hope you can join us on Sunday and look forward to working with the community to do this important work. Please let us know of your interest in taking part in this important endeavor. Appreciate the Collaboration! John Tierney P.S. Please get into the hands of those who will be best able to assist-Thank You! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs server - web page
I did a preliminary cut on this topic last year: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results It has not been updated This page was last modified on 1 November 2010, at 12:14. Tom Gilliard On 01/03/2012 08:20 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Many times, I wondered, what activities had to Sugar page SL (SugarLabs). But when you are looking for, not is easily to find the activities that are not public. Furthermore, when adding a new activity, you do not know if there is already a similar (even the same) on the server. So I started making a list of everything I had in the server: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/ Is a simple system: a folder for an activity and after, in the web, with the same number: the page of the activity. For example: the activity I know America was in the server in: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4464/ And in SugarLabs: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 When I check all the files, I encountered many interesting things.. Activities that did not even have a page on SL... Duplicate activities/files.. So we have supplemented the list with that information. In the first column, see the id that is automatically generated on the server. In the second column shows the name of the activity that is in that folder. In the spaces are blank, because there are no such folders on the server. In the column Notes are cases in which there are empty folders. The third column Page indicates the status of that activity in SL. Green means it is public. Orange means it is as Experimental. Red means there is no page for this activity! With the same color, I try to show the duplicate files.. Who is the maintainer of the site / server? File attached: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE Regards Alan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Network discussion group
On 12/27/2011 01:24 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all! (Texto en Español está por debajo de) One useful feature I found in Google groups web interface, you can click Translate to.. for messages that are not in your language. This also works from this link: http://translate.google.com/#auto|es I just used it to translate several wiki pages to spanish: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Introducci.C3.B3n_a_la_interfaz_de_Az.C3.BAcar (Texto en Español) Una característica útil que he encontrado en Google grupos de la interfaz web, puede hacer clic en Traducir al .. para los mensajes que no están en su idioma. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?
On 12/21/2011 07:58 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating. It is the ony activity we offer to really get a sense of how your computer works. And it is not just for diagnostics or advanced uses. A number of basic scripts or instructions about how to use or customize the XO require the Terminal. This may be an answer: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#introduction_to_the_sugar_interface_.28CD.iso.29 It is a download-able (7.4M) CD.iso file. Contains a .html of the Floss Manual Terminal. This is a useful set of wiki pages that teach the basic operations of the Sugar-desktop Intended to be used ala sneakernet with no internet connection via a USB-stick Browse/Surf-115 in SoaS and the XO-1 will not open the accompanying folder containing the files for the .html. This results in a web page with no links or .png screen-shots Firefox-6.xo file needs to be installed for the .html to work properly Firefox-6.xo is included on the .iso Note:Firefox-6.xo does not use or have sugar-journal access. This means XO-1 security should not be compromised. Firefox-6.xo has been successfully tested on a G1G1 XO-1 running os508dx - (Dextrose2) and opens these wiki pages easily. * Installation This .iso is intended to be burned to a CD The CD can be used directly or copy/paste the contents of the CD to a USB-Stick Insert the USB stick in your XO-1 USB slot Drag drop the Firefox-6.xo file from the 2nd USB-stick to the Journal - Install it * Contents: ReadMeFirst.txt Firefox-6-xo - web browser Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface.html Connecting_to_the_Internet.html Drag-Drop.html How_to_use_IRC.html How_to_use_Chat.html Terminal.html - A downloaded .html from Floss Manuals http://en.flossmanuals.net/terminal/Floss If the concern is that children might not be prepared to use it, or might somehow 'misuse' it, it would be better to provide more guidance and information with the activity [for instance: ship Man pages, include a welcome message that guides people to them, and to a txt version of Intro to the Command Line]. As for Man pages -- We now have the space; is there any reason not to ship them? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5161 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5640 SJ On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 04:07 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :) Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing? The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you. Why do you think there are a wrong message here? Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Then it makes more sense to me to say once you have learned how to su olpc, you can use terminal to hack your user experience rather than once you have overcome an obfuscating element in Sugar, you can use terminal-without-any-help to do things you might still not understand. Add this link to Default.html? (the start page of Browse): http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/Terminal_06Sep08.pdf This would require using Sugar Clone http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick.2FSugar_Clone to duplicate the live USB's Or make a Fedora Remix with the .pdf file on the Soas live CD .iso http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora The terminal-application goes to root with-out any password on SoaS. I think this is why it is not selected as a favorite. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Why are we judging that some people are 'not ready' to use terminal? it's not as though we hide the delete activity menu option from people, for instance. It seems to me to send the wrong message. Better to have a terminal replacement activity that a) shows you clearly what user you are logged in as (in the title bar?) b) by default launches you into a new user account (user:sandbox?) that can easily su to olpc... c) offers some initial welcome/guidance/help in exploring the command line. SJ On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote: If the user is ready to use the terminal, can go to the list view and select as a favorite
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse-130 fails to launch on XO-1 with os2 (F17)
Browse 130.xo fails to start on XO-1 os508dx (dextrose2) usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/activity.py:785 Warning: invalid uninstallable type '(null)' in cast to 'gdkWidget' Tom Gilliard On 12/24/2011 08:02 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: I do not know enough python to figure out for line 23 in __init__.py -- what is being imported, or from where -- but I interpret the cause for the error message from that line as could not find (since the line in webactivity.py DOES look like what the error message says it should be). mikus ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?
On 12/21/2011 07:58 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating. It is the ony activity we offer to really get a sense of how your computer works. And it is not just for diagnostics or advanced uses. A number of basic scripts or instructions about how to use or customize the XO require the Terminal. If the concern is that children might not be prepared to use it, or might somehow 'misuse' it, it would be better to provide more guidance and information with the activity [for instance: ship Man pages, include a welcome message that guides people to them, and to a txt version of Intro to the Command Line]. I cover making an activity a favorite with the f3 Home list view in this short annotated guide on the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface Maybe this should be used to orientate students/teachers to sugar (It is why it was written) As for Man pages -- We now have the space; is there any reason not to ship them? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5161 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5640 SJ On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 04:07 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :) Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing? The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you. Why do you think there are a wrong message here? Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Then it makes more sense to me to say once you have learned how to su olpc, you can use terminal to hack your user experience rather than once you have overcome an obfuscating element in Sugar, you can use terminal-without-any-help to do things you might still not understand. Add this link to Default.html? (the start page of Browse): http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/Terminal_06Sep08.pdf This would require using Sugar Clone http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick.2FSugar_Clone to duplicate the live USB's Or make a Fedora Remix with the .pdf file on the Soas live CD .iso http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora The terminal-application goes to root with-out any password on SoaS. I think this is why it is not selected as a favorite. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Why are we judging that some people are 'not ready' to use terminal? it's not as though we hide the delete activity menu option from people, for instance. It seems to me to send the wrong message. Better to have a terminal replacement activity that a) shows you clearly what user you are logged in as (in the title bar?) b) by default launches you into a new user account (user:sandbox?) that can easily su to olpc... c) offers some initial welcome/guidance/help in exploring the command line. SJ On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote: If the user is ready to use the terminal, can go to the list view and select as a favorite, right? Is not hidden, only is not selected as favorite. Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Terminal is currently hidden by default on many builds. How about unhiding it or replacing it with an activity that offers more of an intro to the command line? It is an important tool for understanding how your computer works. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 tel:%2B1%20617%20529%204266 -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 tel:%2B1%20617%20529%204266 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?
On 12/20/2011 04:07 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :) Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing? The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you. Why do you think there are a wrong message here? Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Then it makes more sense to me to say once you have learned how to su olpc, you can use terminal to hack your user experience rather than once you have overcome an obfuscating element in Sugar, you can use terminal-without-any-help to do things you might still not understand. Add this link to Default.html? (the start page of Browse): http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/Terminal_06Sep08.pdf This would require using Sugar Clone http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick.2FSugar_Clone to duplicate the live USB's Or make a Fedora Remix with the .pdf file on the Soas live CD .iso http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora The terminal-application goes to root with-out any password on SoaS. I think this is why it is not selected as a favorite. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Why are we judging that some people are 'not ready' to use terminal? it's not as though we hide the delete activity menu option from people, for instance. It seems to me to send the wrong message. Better to have a terminal replacement activity that a) shows you clearly what user you are logged in as (in the title bar?) b) by default launches you into a new user account (user:sandbox?) that can easily su to olpc... c) offers some initial welcome/guidance/help in exploring the command line. SJ On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote: If the user is ready to use the terminal, can go to the list view and select as a favorite, right? Is not hidden, only is not selected as favorite. Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com mailto:meta...@gmail.com wrote: Terminal is currently hidden by default on many builds. How about unhiding it or replacing it with an activity that offers more of an intro to the command line? It is an important tool for understanding how your computer works. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 tel:%2B1%20617%20529%204266 -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FW: scratch on aslo
I tried to do this in : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results The criteria are listed at the top of the page. This is a table matrix on the wiki in a sortable and editable form. It is also unmaintained since Nov 2010...: ( Thus newer activities and sugar versions are missing. It would be nice if we could organize volunteers to do testing of activities, and report them in this manner. Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC On 12/15/2011 03:49 PM, Gary Martin wrote: On 15 Dec 2011, at 21:55, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org mailto:s...@laptop.org wrote: * unmaintained or dormantly-maintained but working activities This one is quite a tough one, activities are distributed across a seemingly grey continuum, from non-responding authors, to authors who release in time with the Sugar release schedules. The term 'working' also needs careful definition given the wide variety of distros and hardware that Sugar can be run under (testing platform usually at the discretion of the maintainer). This alone would be quite a large matrix. With an Activity Team hat on, we should focus on polishing and maintaining the core of the known quality learning activities, to act as leading lights, and encouraging other developers to follow where there time allows. The whole 'let a thousand flowers bloom' metaphor unfortunately leads to the vast majority being left to compost. --Gary * activities that can be freely distributed but are not [confirmed to be] under a free-software license * links to activities that are freely available online (somewhere) but may not be freely distributable (from an aslo server) Excluding or obfuscating popular activities only makes ASLO a less handy service. At any rate, at the point where the ASLO software says to an uploader that file already exists in our databsae it should be able to show that person the metadata related to the file: who has uploaded it, why it is not visible, c. SJ On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com mailto:garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:44, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote: But I don't think is a good idea add a activity without a maintainer. +1 Activities without maintainers seem like a spiral to the bottom of the quality bucket - I'd personally not want to recommend the ASLO site to a teacher if we were knowingly promoting and uploading unmaintained activities. As an Open Source license (required by ASLO) allows anyone to potentially pick up maintenance, perhaps ASLO could be tweaked to hide all activities without a confirmed, named, maintainer by default? --Gary Gonzalo On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org mailto:sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: Actually if the license permits it, there isnt a necessity to await confirmation by original author, although it would be nice to ask, IMHO El 14/12/11 19:46, Rafael Ortiz escribió: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com mailto:alan...@hotmail.com wrote: It's ok uploading those to aslo, if they have OSI compliant Licences, pointing to original devs, also if they provide a good sugar experience. More info here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy#Guidelines_for_accepting_an_activity Ok. The importants are in ASLO.. maybe there are some that not.. I could test some and upload them. But corresponds me to do that? I do not want to override the original developers .. it's necessary to ask first the original devs. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17
You can import and export items from the sugar journal with this complicated procedure : Insert a 2nd USB (required to be present for this to work) open the frame (upper right corner with mouse) highlight the desired lines in terminal or browser click the scissors up icon (copy) on the top bar click on the journal icon on to frame move to the bottom left edge of frame right click on clipping icon on the left bottom edge of frame hover on this icon select Keep which appears retract frame bottom bar shows journal and USB icon drag the new clipping listed in the journal icon with mouse to the 2nd USB icon now showing in bottom bar next to journal icon hover over the USB icon remove remove USB from computer running sugar insert USB into another windows or linux computer and drag file on USB to the desktop (or into host system by removing and re-inserting it after exiting sugar) open and copy this file to a paste bin application in your browser Note this same method (drag-drop from a 2nd USB) can be used to export Photos from the sugar record activity and to import to journal of (activity.xo) files if reversed On 12/06/2011 02:51 AM, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 09:26:47AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: I can copy paste content from browse activity to terminal activity or pippy activity (there is a special icon in the border which appears), but I didn't manage to use this clipboard content in the host system. Yes, I know. But with the Browse activity open you may paste content into a Pastebin web application, and then refer to that, or copy it into your e-mail. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What should be the best set in order to develop for Sugar in Ubuntu, today ?
Here are my recommendations: Do not use the latest Ubuntu and its derivatives: It is not ready for sugar installation. Use Ubuntu-11.04 or a derivitive : 1-)http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Sweets_Distribution_0.94 Sweets Distribution is easier to use for Ubuntu' and its Derivatives (Adding an additional Repository to synaptic) as the packages are pre-configured, ready to use. 2-)Trisquel 5 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel 3-)Toast (Sugar only) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast Use Fedora: 4-)Install one of the f16 desktops and add sugar via the netinstall.iso by customize now and selecting sugar-desktop 5-) Install Soas (sugar only) with liveinst in sugar-terminal to Hard-disk from a booted Live CD Other Community Distributions work well also http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions Have fun Tom Gilliard satellit_ #sugar on IRC 6-)there are also Prebuilt VirtualBox appliances you can import: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#VirtualBox_Virtualization On 12/05/2011 02:48 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello, Sorry for the late answer, I had to reinstall my Linux partition I've came back to Xubuntu Oenreric Ocelot (11.10), unfortunately before an advice has been given to this mailing list for Fedora 16 and Gnome 3. So i'm not able to follow it right now. So, in Xubuntu, I tried to install Sweet, but it tells me that = sweets-evince-python and sweets-hulaop dependencies could not be resolved So, should I come back to a Fedora distribution or go back to a Ubuntu 11.04 or lower ? Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar emulator][Ubuntu 11.04] I can't install an activity (with the setup.py)
Ubuntu 11.04 based: If you do not require a desktop plus sugar and do not need non free software Try Trisquel-sugar-5.0 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast Boot CD and try it and if it is OK then install it to HD or use this .img to dd write a persistent USB http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img Fedora 16 based Otherwise use f16 netinstall CD and use custom select gnome and sugar-desktop and install from net Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 12/05/2011 02:57 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:21PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:28:15PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote: Hello everyone, I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010. - I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter 5 : inheriting from Activity.activity) - I've modified, carefully i think, the svg picture with Inkscape and edited the xml structure - I installed the Sugar Sweets distribution But when I try to setup the activity from the emulator terminal, I get an error saying that there is no module called sugar.activity (the line in fault : from sugar.activity import bundlebuilder. Have I forgotten an important step in my sugar environment ? The downside of using Sweets Distribution (and Sweets) is that you are getting all libraries enabled only being in Sugar session. If you are not in Sugar, the most useful setup.py's command are duplicated in sweets command, e.g.: sweets dist_xo sweets dist_source sweets genpot The reasons to have this functionality in sweet command are: * w/ Sweets, you have several versions of Sugar (and sugar-toolkit) * this functionality is common for all sugars * it will be easier to keep it in one place (not in every sugar version w/ possible chnages between versions and having a mess if you are switching between them) * the sweets command is exactly about development process, it is more obvious to have this functionality in development related command rather in sugar itself ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Can import pippy module, but not pippy.physics module, have I forgotten a package installation ?
Try: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution On 12/03/2011 11:40 AM, laurent bernabe wrote: I installed the sugar desktop package from gpk application (without sweet), maybe that's the reason why it does not work for me. 2011/12/3 Rafael Ortizraf...@activitycentral.com On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:28 AM, laurent bernabelaurent.bern...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I've just installed Fedora 14 then Sugar package (not the emulator but the session manager) - some pippy examples works well : such as Jump - but unfortunately, Camera example tell me that it can't recognize jpg file format, and Life tell me that it can't import pippy.physics module Does someone how can I fix it ? Funny these examples work o.k on both emulator (sweets) and directly on an XO. Could be packaging errors? BTW, I dunno about the xolimpics example, we should erase it. Regards ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Notes from Installing sweet-sugar in f16 gnome3-shell
Here are my preliminary notes on installing alsroot's sweets-sugar 0.88 and 0.94 in f16 gnome3-shell. With much help from alsroot. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Installing_sweets-sugar_in_Fedora-16_gnome3-shell Works; Tom Gilliard satellit_ IRC #sugar ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Let liveusb-creator know how to write dd created USB.img files in the graphical program
It would be great to have liveusb-creator know how to write dd created USB.img files in the graphical program, I am producing these files for sugarlabs as a way to mass-produce Sugar on a Stick: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img Currently we write the USB with the command: dd if=Soas_Coconuts.img of=/dev/sd(x) bs=2M dd is very dangerous for the average user (In our case teachers and students) to employ as it will destroy a hard disk with out warning. It would be nice to be able to employ the user friendly features of liveusb-creator: 1-) graphical GUI 2-) ability to specify a local .iso (.img?) file 3-) not showing the local Hard Disk. Thomas Gilliard ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Tuquito Distribution
Alvar; I just successfully downloaded the tuquito-5-gnome-dvd-32bit.iso from http://tuquito.org.ar/descargar?f=tuquito41-main-32-mirror1 Listed on our the Community Distribution Page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/tuquito (along with my notes) And installed sugar 0.94.1 from Sweets-Distribution both as a gdm selection and in sugar-emulator. I had previously used tuquito 4.1 this way I have installed it in VirtualBox 4.1.6 for OSX and it works well. Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 03/28/2011 08:14 AM, Alvar Maciel wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: I have downloaded and tested tuquito in VirtualBox 4.0.4 OSX I tried installing sweets-distribution on it and it works nicely.! my notes and your note to us are here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/tuquito I have also listed it here http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions I need your permission to use the tuquito icon for this listing and for the other page. I plan to try other ways to install sugar (including directly from Ubuntu's repo) (SURF-115.xo needs to be finished and added to distributions repositories.) Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit on IRC freenode #sugar footnote: how is tuquito licensed? Hey tom, thanks a lot for test tuquito and for add this one to sugar wiki about tuquito logo feel free for use it please, you can get this one from http://www.descargarlinux.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tuquito.png By the way we are packing sugar-jhbuild in deb format, so later you can install latest sugar in tuquito (or other debian distributions) from repositories directly. With this the browse problem is fixed because we are going to put in our repositories the packahe xpcom http://www.acercadelaeducacion.com.ar/scripts/python_xpcom.deb another thing I have made a patch for add support to tuquito in sugar I sent it to sugar labs but I dont know the exactly steps for add changes to sugar-repo so I attached this patch in this email so you maybe can add this or send to the rigth people about tuquito license, it is licensed under GPL ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS v7?
This is an example of a dd writable SoaS-v2.img file which produces a fully functional Conventional install on a USB. This is equivalent to a liveinst install to USB.[1] It was first suggested by bernie [2] in early 2010 as a better alternative to the currently used live USB SoaS filesystems with their fragile and limited sized overlay, * This functionality is expected to be included in fedora 17 liveinst (Anaconda) * It would be even nicer to be able to create and install to USB, the Soas-v7.img file directly from the first sugar boot screen as a third option line, rather from a obscure liveinst command in terminal. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#A-Non-Live_.28real_file_structured.29_USB (a working 4GB dd Soas-v2.img file and description. As proof of concept) [2] http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Direct_Soas.txt (Original Announcement) SoaS-v6 is great...thanks Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 11/09/2011 04:18 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, So there's no rest for the wicked its time to think about what you would like to develop for SoaS v7. I know upstream is all very busy already the sugar team are full pelt into the conversion of sugar to gtk3 and PyGI and there's all sorts of fun stuff going into Fedora... so what do you want? Peter ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB )
On 11/02/2011 12:16 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi... I am following the progress of this with great interest, and as soon as I finish the work I promised to do on the Help Activity/Users Manual refresh, I will have a chance to try it. I do have a few questions that will help me get started. 1) Which Mac OS X are you running? Mac OSX 10.6.8 2.7 GHZ Intel Core i7 2) Has this been tested on a MacBook? MacBook Pro 8.1 Intel HD Graphics 3000 GPU 3) Can I create the persistent usb on my MacBook using the instructions I found in item 4 on this page? I do not think that this can be done from a mac. I used a fully updated f16 gnome3-shell hard disk install to write the EFI USB Run: yum install livecd-tools so it installs all the required dependencies and then use livecd-iso-to-disk follow the instructions on : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html I doubt that the above would create an EFI boot USB, But I have not tried those methods. Only EFI USB's written from the RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso will boot directly in my Mac. I would be willing to send a 2 GB EFI USB to you to test If you like. Let me know where to send it. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ If this works, it is really good news! I would love to be able to show it at SCaLE 10X in Los Angeles on Jan 20-22. Should I put in a proposal for a presentation or is it not ready for the big time yet? Better still would someone from Sugar Labs like to do a presentation at SCaLE? I'm looking forward to hearing answers! Caryl Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:32:57 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: test...@lists.laptop.org; s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [SoaS] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB ) We now have a persistent EFI boot USB for Macs... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB works with f16 RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.RC4/Live/x86_64/Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso Use: livecd-iso-to-disk see first link for details. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB )
On 11/02/2011 05:03 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 02.11.2011, at 12:38, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 02.11.2011, at 11:28, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: 3) Can I create the persistent usb on my MacBook using the instructions I found in item 4 on this page? You can create persistent images with overlays (you always have been able to). But only under Linux, so far. The livecd-iso-to-disk tool has not been ported to OS X. The iso can be used directly on the Mac but won't have persistence. You can under windows as well. Which doesn't help Mac users ;^) My point was that its not ONLY linux. And mac users can dual boot into either Window or Linux or even run one or the other as a VM and use USB passthrough Disk Utility on the Mac should be able to put a preconfigured image onto a USB stick. May be such an image file (created on Linux) could be made available for Caryl to download? No idea, I don't own a Mac of any description. Donations welcome. That might be well-spent, indeed. However, running the livecd-iso-to-disk tool to create an EFI disk image with persistence only requires a Linux box. Maybe this could even be part of the regular automated build process? Note that f16 EFI Boot USB now works (with persistence since RC4) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB Tom Gilliard/satellit_ the EFI disk image is build automatically. The addition of persistence requires a USB key. I presume you mean a image to dd out? If so what sizes do we do? How many variants? How long do we keep them and who's going to provide the disk space and bandwidth for hosting of them? This is the same discussion I have regarding the creation of images for the various virtualisation images. At this point in time the only universal standard is still ISO and it can be created from most platforms easily enough. I don't tend to encourage the use of dd simply due to the fact I've seen too many end users blow away their OS using it. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB )
We now have a persistent EFI boot USB for Macs... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB works with f16 RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.RC4/Live/x86_64/Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso Use:livecd-iso-to-disk see first link for details. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Testing Summary: 29 October 2011 - Auckland, New Zealand
On 10/29/2011 01:23 PM, Tabitha Roder wrote: Testing Summary: 29 October 2011 - Auckland, New Zealand Had planned to test soas v6 but satellit said that it doesn't boot. Tabs; No: f16-EFI Boot USB does not boot.[1] F16-RC1 CD's boot fine [2] (f15-EFI Boot USB works fine on Macbook Pro i7) Tom Gilliard/satellit_ [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_USB_EFI_Boot [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#F16-RC1-live-i686-SoaS Tested random activities today as no new build to test. Letters 23 - cute little game like scrabble. Found that it uses a word list so you do have to use real words, can't just pick random letters. Keeps a best score which appears the same as the total score in your first game, if you exit the game and reopen it then the total is reset but the best still appears. If you start new activity then the best score is reset as well. The best score doesn't say how many turns you had, so you can beat your best score by playing the game longer. All letters have the same value, so perhaps if there was to be levels then it could assign extra points for using some letters like q or z. Maybe there should be deliberate sets of letters and you have to make as many words as possible, then you get a list of words you missed afterwards. Currently this activity gives random letters so you often get letters that don't easily make words, and you get q without u. Could this game be played in other languages that require tildes and things? DidgArt - very good idea. The mouse pointer is small so hard for people with glasses to see, but is probably useful for fine art work - maybe a resize pointer button? Reading the instructions made the activity make sense, was harder to learn without instructions. Found the keyboard tool change options very useful.. Pictures created don't appear in the journal so cant be added to Write. Python-Tute Requires you to use the Terminal as well. Maths functions working well. A bit ackward shifting between Python-tute and Terminal, tried using the alt tab but python-tute is very slow to display. Completed the first two pages. Derecho a Transitar - clicked on a speech bubble option and then there was no progress. Appears to still be running but never progressed and couldn't click on anything else. Same problem on XO-1.0 and XO-1.5 machines. Textdungeon - seems there is only two spaces you can stand in as every way is blocked. Can pick up a key, sword, lamp and princess. Tried using them all, killed a dragon, but that is it. Stuck. Seems you can't progress further than that. Not sure how to edit the game as it suggests in Write. There will be no testing in Auckland at the Windsor for the next two Saturdays. Tabitha, Tom and Oliver will be visiting Wellington next weekend and can bring the XO-1.75s to show anyone in Wellington who is interested (Tom is going to KiwiCon). The following weekend we will be at Sunshine Coast if anyone lives there and wants to see them ;-) otherwise back to testing as usual on Saturday 19 November at the Windsor, Parnell. Thanks testers Tabitha ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Announce: Soas_Coconut: tests, links, Soas_Coconuts.img plus an importable Virtual Appliance available.
Available now: 1-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Soas-v5-Coconut Tests http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_Coconuts.img use .img to dd write a 2 GB USB built with liveusb-creator in f16 with persistence file 2-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick-V5-Coconut Virtualbox Virtual Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v5 Coconut release
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Sugar on a Stick v5 is ready to go (finally). The website will be updated shortly. When it is all details will be here http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Congratulations Will the surf-115.xo on ASLO get a revision for use with sugar 0.93-94.x? Thanks again : ) Tom Gilliard Improvements over SoaSv4 include: - Sugar 0.92.4 - Fedora 15 - Network Manager 0.9 support (massive thanks to dsd!) - More Activities! - Many bugfixes and improvements - Improved HW support including better WiFi, notebook/netbook and other devices support Regressions: - 3G Modem support currently doesn't work. ISOs in the mean time can be downloaded from the following links: 32 bit http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3355572 64 bit http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3355573 Regards, Peter ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v5 Coconut release
Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Sugar on a Stick v5 is ready to go (finally). The website will be updated shortly. When it is all details will be here http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Peter; will a copy of the .ks file(s) be available? (for building remixes with livecd-tools) Thanks; Tom Gilliard Congratulations Will the surf-115.xo on ASLO get a revision for use with sugar 0.93-94.x? Its patched and working in F-16 with build sugar-surf-115-2.fc16 Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] gnome3 - conflict with sugar-desktop installed telepathy
gnome3-shell 3.1.92 conflict with sugar-desktop installed telepathy: f16 RC gnome3-shell with yum groupinstall sugar-desktop. logged into gdm as *sugar jabber.sugarlabs.org does not connect. get pop up from gnome3 asking for password for telepathy-salut gnome3-shell has telepathy also looks like it has conflicts with sugar-desktop telepathy https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742636 Looks like this will need to be addressed Tom Gilliard satellit ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Please get surf-115.xo nominated and thus visible on ASLO
Please get surf-115.xo Nominated It is an inactive state on ASLO http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/ and thus can only be listed in experimental listings (not visible to the public) We are using it as main browser in our f15 Soas (Sugar on a Stick) spin as Browse no longer works (xulrunner-1.9 is no longer supported ) References : (archived surf-115.xo; git and .rpm) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#surf_browser Thanks for your help. Tom Gilliard sugarlabs volunteer ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Simple NetworkManager-0.9 port
Please look at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3100 #3100 UNSP: Soas-v5-Coconut Beta only connects to jabber if using wired connection Sugar on a Stick 5 (Coconut) Fedora release 15 (Lovelock) Sugar: 0.92.4-2 Tom Gilliard satellit Daniel Drake wrote: Adapt sugar to NetworkManager-0.9 API changes. The major change here is the removal of the user-level connections mechanism; instead of storing connection information in Sugar, NetworkManager now Manages our Networks for us. However, some level of interfacing/monitoring NM is now needed, implemented with the Connections and Connection classes in jarabe.model.network. If found, connections in sugar's connections.cfg are automatically migrated, and then connections.cfg is deleted. Similarly, if modem connection details are found in gconf, they are migrated into NM and then the gconf keys are unset. The existing network code is far from perfect and actually quite messy. In this port I've tried not to make fundamental changes to improve this, in order to keep task complexity down and aid review. In the medium term I do plan to improve this code, by moving it to use gobject-introspection on libnm, and rewriting/restructuring at the same time. By letting libnm do most of the work for us, this layer can be greatly simplified. However, libnm and gobject-introspection improvements are needed first, which I will continue to work on. ---snip ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Please get surf-115.xo nominated and thus visible on ASLO
Rafael Ortiz wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Please get surf-115.xo Nominated It is an inactive state on ASLO http://activities.sugarlabs.**org//en-US/sugar/http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/ and thus can only be listed in experimental listings (not visible to the public) We are using it as main browser in our f15 Soas (Sugar on a Stick) spin as Browse no longer works (xulrunner-1.9 is no longer supported ) References : (archived surf-115.xo; git and .rpm) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/**Sugar_Creation_Kit#surf_**browserhttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#surf_browser The maintainer/developer hasn't uploaded latest versions to ASLO. Last one is v6 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/25930/surf-106.xo I've just changed it this version to public. I get file not found on this link. : ( Searches on Surf and surf come up empty Tom Gilliard satellit Cheers. Thanks for your help. Tom Gilliard sugarlabs volunteer __**_ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.**org Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/**listinfo/sugar-develhttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Stop start-up icon pulsing when an activity fails to start
Sugar 0.93.3 [1] is now producing this Problem in default applications: icon stays pulsing in top bar after closing these applications [2]: record 93 clock 6 Plus surf 115 None failed to start (STOP) Error in log: cannot import name AddressEntry (webtoolbar) icon stays pulsing in top bar [3] Tom Gilliard satellit [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-16-Nightly-20110906.17-i686-Live-soas (2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3079 [3] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3055#comment:8 Gary Martin wrote: On 6 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: I would like to propose that we stop pulsing the animated icons (in the main screen area as well as the upper toolbar frame) when an activity fails to start, and Sugar already knows to display a message stating this happened. +1 for stopping the pulse animation on failure. When this happens the animated icons should either be switched to the highest transparency/alpha state to indicate failure, or be made non-transparent. Might also want to consider the icon switching to grey. --Gary Otherwise, if a user is not actively watching the launcher screen, or the activity started but Sugar failed to detect it, the pulsing icons will continue to pulse using CPU cycles in the background until a users spots the issue and presses the Stop button found on the failed launch screen. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
