Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Where should we put our mixture of bugs, feature requests and misunderstandings as we develop curriculum

2009-10-02 Thread Caroline Meeks



 Also, as a developer I would need to see a list of the features and
 bugs most requested by deployments, and which deployments need them.
 It will be also useful when asking for help and recruiting more
 volunteers.


Yes, exactly.  We need a way for individuals to contribute individually to
this.  We need a system that is tolerant of bad reports, supports
peer-to-peer problem solving, and creates a pattern of data and feedback
that can be fed back upstream.

I'm just not sure how to create this yet, if you have ideas on
implementation please let me know.  I am leaning towards Launchpad and I
also will talk to Adam Holt about his experiences and how we can work with
the support gang.



 Regards,

 Tomeu

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Where should we put our mixture of bugs, feature requests and misunderstandings as we develop curriculum

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:27:46PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
 As I work with educators to create and write up curriculum we will discover
 problems.  They will be a mixture of Sugar, Activities, SoaS and confusion.
 There are a bunch of ways we could deal with it.
[...]
 2. Everything is first posted to IAEP

Please please don't do this - IAEP gets enough SoaS/distro noise as
is.

 3. Everyone tells me everything and I try to decide where to put it which
 has obvious problems

This is it.  If you imagine you're the deployment, you have to
communicate upstream.  I don't think, realistically, it's scalable
for every deployment to do anything else.

 4. Everything is put into Trac

No, then trac (Sugar) becomes a dumping ground that includes a lot of
downstream (SoaS, etc.) issues.


Triage suggestions (but I'm not the expert):

 For example todays issues

- Record is not recording audio - probably hardware SoaS issue.

SoaS bug tracker.

- Colors journal entries are not showing up as an image so I can't import
it into another program like Cartoon Builder.

Activity author / mailing list.

- Cartoon builder is cool, I want to make my own characters but it seems
really hard in Sugar to draw a bit, save, draw a bit more, save under a new
name, how can I do that more easily.

Activity author / mailing list.

- I'd like to save a figure out of FlipSticks and put him into cartoon
builder. Is there a way to save a flipstick image?

Activity author / mailing list.

 Thanks,
 Caroline

Martin


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Where should we put our mixture of bugs, feature requests and misunderstandings as we develop curriculum

2009-09-30 Thread Tim McNamara
Hi Caroline,
Apologies for not introducing myself to the lists before my first post, but
workflow of issues is something that sparked a neuron or two!

2009/10/1 Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com

 As I work with educators to create and write up curriculum we will discover
 problems.  They will be a mixture of Sugar, Activities, SoaS and confusion.
 There are a bunch of ways we could deal with it.

 1. Everything goes into Launchpad soas answers and we sort it out from
 there.
 2. Everything is first posted to IAEP, discussed and sorted out and then
 put into Dev, Launchpad soas or into a wiki page somewhere or just lost in
 the mailing list archives
 3. Everyone tells me everything and I try to decide where to put it which
 has obvious problems
 4. Everything is put into Trac


Here's a suggested workflow:

Issue identified with SoaS
Add Q https://answers.launchpad.net/soas/
Immediate Q answered
Decisions to make Answerer(s)
  - If substantive, invite query to be discussed on list
  - If Sugar bug, then port to http://dev.sugarlabs.org/
  - If repeated/general Q, then click Add to FAQ

Rationale:
Launchpad Answers is friendlier to newbies than Trac.
Answers allows the user to own the question = they get to decide if their Q
was answered sufficently to close the ticket.
It's very easy to create a FAQ in Launchpad Answers.
Trac is powerful for software development, but is only adequate for user
support.
Some things (like curriculum changes or substantive issues) deserve to
be forwarded to mailing list.

Cheers all,

Tim
  http://timmcnamara.co.nz
  http://twitter.com/timClicks
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