Re: FONTS
Dear Font Experts, I have now downloaded the 'JSL Ancient Fonts from the Internet. A quick try shows that they are just great. Admittedly they are a little ragged, but that is probably what their creator, Jeff Lee, wanted to do. He is trying to re-create old fonts, isn't he? By the time the characters were printed, initially from hand cut punches, which would then be sunk into copper, and the type cast from these moulds, then when they were printed on hand made paper, I guess that they would come out roughly as he has shown. My thanks to Andrew James and John Davis for leading me to these fonts. For anyone else who did not note the web address, here it is again:- http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/typograf.html Regards, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cambridge, UK.
Re: FONTS
sundial-font the program FCP3 which can be found at www.high-logic.com Thibaud At 14-11-2000 19:21 +, you wrote: -Original Message/Oorspronkelijk bericht-- Dear Font Experts, I have now downloaded the 'JSL Ancient Fonts from the Internet. A quick try shows that they are just great. Admittedly they are a little ragged, but that is probably what their creator, Jeff Lee, wanted to do. He is trying to re-create old fonts, isn't he? By the time the characters were printed, initially from hand cut punches, which would then be sunk into copper, and the type cast from these moulds, then when they were printed on hand made paper, I guess that they would come out roughly as he has shown. My thanks to Andrew James and John Davis for leading me to these fonts. For anyone else who did not note the web address, here it is again:- http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/typograf.html Regards, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cambridge, UK. - Th. Taudin Chabot, home email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments max 500kB, in case of larger attachments contact me)
Re: FONTS
Hi Mike et al I got two responses from my original request: Andrew James suggested http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/typograf.html The JSL Ancient font which is available as freeware from this site has the long s and several other characteristic pairs of letters including ct, st and sh. It has a slightly hand-drawn feel. Dave Bell suggested http://www.fontcraft.com/scriptorium which is a commercial font house. They have hundreds of fonts, and I am currently contacting them to find which are the most suitable. I hope this helps - please let us all know if anything else appears as there seem to be several Mailing List readers interested. Happy scripting, John --- Dr J R Davis Flowton, UK 52.08N, 1.043E email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Cowham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: 12 November 2000 16:59 Subject: FONTS Dear Shadow Watchers, As we have been discussing fonts recently, let me tell you of my particular 'wants'. I want an old Roman type font with the old fashioned s that is shaped like f, but without the cross bar. Ideally the font should also include the double letters like ct that were often run together as one character. I have found some gothic type fonts like this, but alas, not a Roman one, such as was used in many books of 17/18 centuries. I do have a disk with 1000 fonts, and another with almost as many, but looking through the listings has not helped. Most of these fonts are way-out modern ones. I suppose that the nearest font found is PLANTIN, as used? by Plantin Moretus of Antwerp. Regards, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cambridge, UK.
Re: Fonts for sundials
John asked: Does anyone know of a good source for computer fonts (preferably Windows-compatible) of antique characters Adding to John's request, can anyone give me details (name, source of download) of the British public sign font, used for most of the offical signs in public places - the one that you see in airports, railway stations, road signs etc., which is designed to be very easy to read. Steve
Re: Fonts for sundials
Steve Lelievre wrote Adding to John's request, can anyone give me details (name, source of download) of the British public sign font, used for most of the offical signs in public places - the one that you see in airports, railway stations, road signs etc., which is designed to be very easy to read. 'Helvetica' in various weights and compressions has been used for much public signage for many years but I'm not sure if this is the font you are referring to. Tony Moss.
Re: Fonts for sundials
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, John Davis wrote: Does anyone know of a good source for computer fonts (preferably Windows-compatible) of antique characters? There are many sites with free- or share-ware fonts available. One that offers a few free sets, and has a LOT of quality fonts and graphics is: http://www.fontcraft.com/scriptorium Dave N37.29W121.97
Fonts for sundials
Hi all, Does anyone know of a good source for computer fonts (preferably Windows-compatible) of antique characters? Old hand-engraved dials had a very particular style which it is difficult to replicate with modern fonts. For example, the figure "8" was often flat-topped, as was the"3", and it and the "5"s and "7"s usually extended below the line. The Roman numerals for the hour-ring were usually very tall and thin, with extreme variations between the thick and thin strokes, and very narrow gapsbetween letters (eg in III). It is time-consuming generating these from scratch, or stretching existing characters. The reason for the question is that I'm making a replica or the 17th century dial (from poor-quality photos!) and it is difficult to get the "feel" right. Any help would be gratefully received. John - Dr J R DavisFlowton, UK52.08N, 1.043Eemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fonts and plotters
Hi Steve, I just printed out your scadd sundial. It's nice. Regarding the topic of getting fonts to print out the way you want them to, PostScript has a command that turns a charcater to a just another path. It should be possible to do that and then turn it into dxf. Then it should be possible to add it to another drawing shouldn't it? I've just looked into the Deltacad a little bit. The gnomon on your dial is a verticale pin at the center of the cross, and half as tall as the cross, right? Best, John A1) The HPGL definition in PRINTGL does not explain how fonts are selected. There is a CS command (Character Set), but that only allows for selection of ASCII, ISO variant etc., not typeface. It seems as if there may be no way for a CAD program to control which typeface is used. A2) The corners of the characters are put on a sloping line because the plot data includes a set of positioning commands for each character. The software carefully works out a coordinate on a sloping line for each one. It then neglects to tell the ploter to rotate them to the intended angle. I was surprised when I saw what was happening - I expected there to be a command to postion the corner of a printed text string and one to rotate it, plus a single text string forming the entire label. Instead, it treats each character as a seperate entity. results - what is that better choice of printer? - Do HPGL or HPGL/2 in fact provide a way to control the typeface used (e.g.
Re: Fonts and plotters
John, The gnomon on your dial is a verticale pin at the center of the cross, and half as tall as the cross, right? Not sure which case you mean. In the polar-axis case, you're making a Horizontal Dial. The gnomon climbs at an angle from the centre of the dial (the centre of the cross). It you tell the application that the gnomon has some width, it assumes it is a trianglular profile cut from a flat plate and displaces the hourlines accordingly. In the case of the Upright, it is an azimuth dial. I assume a round pin centred over the cross. If you tell the application that the pin has some diameter, it displaces the hour lines so that the the leading edge of the shadow marks Time. In either case the height of the style is up to you. It needs to climb high enough to ensure that a shadow reaches across the time scale year round. That would depend on your latitude. My code doesn't attempt to work out how high it needs to be...but if anyone can tell me the maths of it I'll happily add an extra facility to the code. The cross is just there to mark the centre of the dial. I use a big cross rather than marking a single point in order to have lines running at right angles. That way you can use the lines, which should be the same length, to check the aspect ratio of the printed drawing. Cheers, Steve
