Re: [freenet-support] A few ideas/thoughts i would like to share with you all
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:30:35PM -0800, Sonax wrote: Hi all. Money: I'm not into the details of how often toad get's paid or how much money is usually raised on a average month, but it would seem that the project has some extra money currently. If it is just a result of people being in a happy christmas mood, ofcourse those money should be saved for the summertime (or when ever), but if it is a result of the project making/getting a bit more money than it takes to pay toad maby they should be put to use? Maby starting a bounty system for those things that toad can't fix easily would make things run more smoothly (i can't help wonder if the win-installer issues would have been fixed faster if toad, besides saying that it should be fixed asap also had promised xx$ to the first person to fix it?). I don't have the authority to do that. Ofcourse such a bounty system should be more organised (who pays the money, who is the judge of when a problem is solved etc.) But i think it might have it's strength in windows and mac specific problems that toad can't fix, and maby also in other problems that i as a non coder don't really understand. Or, if the money is there, a second (part time) coder would be possible? I'm just throwing it out there. I have no insight into the echonomy of the project besides what can be read off the web page. That might be possible. However the only way to be really sure is to try. And trying is quite hazardous. Anyway Ian is the person to talk to about this. I believe KenMan was interested. Snapshots mirrors: When someone in the irc channel asks for a .ref file or similar and they can't connect to freenet.org (for various reasons - censor or hosting problems), i would like to have one (or more) unofficial mirrors to point them to. Since i'm trying to remain semi anonymous i will not send them to http://my-ip.dk/snapshots-mirror/. So if someone would mirror these files and put a list of mirrors out (on the wiki or in the channel topic or where ever), i think that would be a great help for some (comming) freenet users. Well if it's a censorship problem, don't you think they'd get blocked too? :) But it might be worthwhile anyway. Project progress: With toad (and friends?) working mainly on the simulations and few new builds comming out it is hard for the average user, who dosn't folow the conversations in the irc channel to see if anything is happening or we have all gone home and left the project for dead. I think it might be good for morale, feeling of comunity etc. if toad (or someone else?) once in a while posted a little info of what is going on, to one of the mail lists. Agreed. I should post more status reports. :) I know it is hard to translate the numbers and graphs of the simulations to somthing that we all (coders and non-coders alike) will understand, and i'm not asking for a 10 page scientific paper, but just a confirmation that somthing is happening. (Yes, i know that toad is hired as a coder, not a journalist, but i really think it would be good for keeping people around.) It's not unreasonable to expect me to keep the lists informed of current work and progress. Have fun! -- Sonax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] A few ideas/thoughts i would like to share with
Don't worry, Sonax: any moment now, Toad or Ian will respond with a thoughtful post! ;-) O yeah, and a happy new year to you and everybody else! ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] A few ideas/thoughts i would like to share with
I think those were all good comments (though not mentionned for the first time ;-). Some of them I have proposed years ago, but...well...it somehow never amounts to anything. The problem with all these proposals is, that someone actually has to implement it. That seldom happens. I dunno why...natural inertia, perhaps. Or just busy with coding or something. It's a bit like the finance/sponsor-page I was going to make; all thought it was a good idea, but at the end, it didn't happen, but it can't be said that's my fault; the Higher Gods had a change of mind. Ah well, at least we're shown the total income, so my whining helped a bit in improving things :-). I think your suggestions are wortwhile, but I don't see much reaction, as yet. I'm wondering what Ian or Toad thinks of it. With a bit luck, they will give an elaborate response (not impossible, seen the pleasant surprise that Ian made a thoughtful response on my post about tor/freenet - even though he said he would never read anything of me again ;-). I was very pleasantly surprised, I must say. And I'm curious about any further response people might give to your post as well. As for the mirror; I used to make and distribute a SCIP on the wiki, but I stopped it because of the constantly changing builds that didn't talk with earlier builds. It was a bit too labor intensive for me. Irony is, that now the build hasn't changed in quite a while ;-). Anyway, I could, I guess, place something similar on the site, but someone else would have to maintain it. And preferably work with that freecaching-system, because the wiki can't handle mass-d/l of big amounts of data. (Not that it's likely to happen, if the normal site is accesable - exept maybe in case of a slashdot). But a real mirror wouldn't be a bad idea, indeed. thanks for your input, sonax. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] A few ideas/thoughts i would like to share with you all
Hi all. Money: I'm not into the details of how often toad get's paid or how much money is usually raised on a average month, but it would seem that the project has some extra money currently. If it is just a result of people being in a happy christmas mood, ofcourse those money should be saved for the summertime (or when ever), but if it is a result of the project making/getting a bit more money than it takes to pay toad maby they should be put to use? Maby starting a bounty system for those things that toad can't fix easily would make things run more smoothly (i can't help wonder if the win-installer issues would have been fixed faster if toad, besides saying that it should be fixed asap also had promised xx$ to the first person to fix it?). Ofcourse such a bounty system should be more organised (who pays the money, who is the judge of when a problem is solved etc.) But i think it might have it's strength in windows and mac specific problems that toad can't fix, and maby also in other problems that i as a non coder don't really understand. Or, if the money is there, a second (part time) coder would be possible? I'm just throwing it out there. I have no insight into the echonomy of the project besides what can be read off the web page. Snapshots mirrors: When someone in the irc channel asks for a .ref file or similar and they can't connect to freenet.org (for various reasons - censor or hosting problems), i would like to have one (or more) unofficial mirrors to point them to. Since i'm trying to remain semi anonymous i will not send them to http://my-ip.dk/snapshots-mirror/. So if someone would mirror these files and put a list of mirrors out (on the wiki or in the channel topic or where ever), i think that would be a great help for some (comming) freenet users. Project progress: With toad (and friends?) working mainly on the simulations and few new builds comming out it is hard for the average user, who dosn't folow the conversations in the irc channel to see if anything is happening or we have all gone home and left the project for dead. I think it might be good for morale, feeling of comunity etc. if toad (or someone else?) once in a while posted a little info of what is going on, to one of the mail lists. I know it is hard to translate the numbers and graphs of the simulations to somthing that we all (coders and non-coders alike) will understand, and i'm not asking for a 10 page scientific paper, but just a confirmation that somthing is happening. (Yes, i know that toad is hired as a coder, not a journalist, but i really think it would be good for keeping people around.) Have fun! -- Sonax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
