Re: [freenet-support] CS Project

2004-04-06 Thread Craig Burton

 peer reviewed publications about it out there.

Woah.
Well, I pointed them to the IEEE paper for starters.

The submitter really
 has to be a small-footprint application like a browser applet.
Hmm. So what would it connect to? Browser applets can only talk to the
server they were downloaded from - do you mean literally a browser
applet with it just talking to that node? Or do you mean a small
standalone app e.g. a transient node?
Ideally, an applet that then seeks out Freenet seed nodes it is told to go 
attempt to submit to.  If implemented as an applet, it may have to use a 
socket via javascript or similar.  I speak here in ignorance of Freenet 
protocols involving certificates, but there's our aim anyway.

I think a transient node is what we're after.   We think some of our users 
may be happy to host a node the proper way but we can't make them.  We want 
them to use the network for a single transaction without hosting a 
node.  They would not download anything.  They do not need a receipt.

Cheers,
Craig.
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[freenet-support] CS Project

2004-03-26 Thread Craig Burton
Dear Freenet,

I am an industry partner in a computer science student project to 
potentially use Freenet to transmit files.  We are keen to adapt or create 
a lightweight client, preferably an applet, that can talk to Freenet seed 
nodes and post files.  We are familiar with the downloadable Freenet client 
but are seeking to use the network for one-off sessions from people who 
cannot host a node nor download anything.  The other end of the project 
seeks to do the same thing for fetching such submissions.  All submitted 
files will be very small, only a few K.  We have some resources to create 
new work, work with your protocols etc.

Can you please let me know if this is a good idea, possible, already done 
etc?  I apologise for using a support list to ask such a question but I 
suspect this kind of thing will be known by those who listen in here.

Ultimately, the project would like to promote the establishment of Freenet 
nodes to bolster the network but for starters, we need to explore its 
potential for such low-footprint users.

Best,
Craig.
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Re: [freenet-support] CS Project

2004-03-26 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:15:57 +1100, Craig Burton  
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Dear Freenet,
:)

potentially use Freenet to transmit files.  We are keen to adapt or  
create a lightweight client, preferably an applet, that can talk to  
Freenet seed nodes and post files.  We are familiar with the
What you are asking is for us noderunners to open upp our Freenet via an  
API (FCP) for external use. People might be reluctant to do that, since  
ISPs might not understand that hosting Freenet-content for external  
users is done in the name of Freedom - they might just consider your open  
port a source for ... *that dreaded word about illegal pictures of  
you-know-what* and shut down your Internet access.

Thus, I'm not sure how many willing participans you'd find. I guess a  
second layer at the node could be installed that tried to filter out only  
your content for external users, but, than I'm starting to wonder what the  
point of using Freenet for this would be at all.

regards,
Troed - not an official Freenet spokesperson in any way - but considered  
quite knowledgeable about privacy.

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Re: [freenet-support] CS Project

2004-03-26 Thread Toad
Wrong. It's quite possible to interface to freenet on the FNP level.
Have a look at freenet/client/FNPClient.java .

On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 04:56:30PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:15:57 +1100, Craig Burton  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dear Freenet,
 
 :)
 
 potentially use Freenet to transmit files.  We are keen to adapt or  
 create a lightweight client, preferably an applet, that can talk to  
 Freenet seed nodes and post files.  We are familiar with the
 
 What you are asking is for us noderunners to open upp our Freenet via an  
 API (FCP) for external use. People might be reluctant to do that, since  
 ISPs might not understand that hosting Freenet-content for external  
 users is done in the name of Freedom - they might just consider your open  
 port a source for ... *that dreaded word about illegal pictures of  
 you-know-what* and shut down your Internet access.
 
 Thus, I'm not sure how many willing participans you'd find. I guess a  
 second layer at the node could be installed that tried to filter out only  
 your content for external users, but, than I'm starting to wonder what the  
 point of using Freenet for this would be at all.
 
 regards,
 Troed - not an official Freenet spokesperson in any way - but considered  
 quite knowledgeable about privacy.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] CS Project

2004-03-26 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:08:55 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wrong. It's quite possible to interface to freenet on the FNP level.
Have a look at freenet/client/FNPClient.java .
... in effect, creating an applet-Fred? But without a datastore and  
history, how would those integrate with the rest of the network - and  
function?

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