Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:02:47AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: On Friday 23 April 2004 00:45, Galen wrote: Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How usable is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. I am behind NAT, but was able to forward the port, and now have 650 meg in store. My performance is terrible, so I use it rarely. I click on a link and it takes several minutes to falsely indicate that the network is down. I assume you are using the stable branch? What build? Have you upgraded to 5077? And please show me the top few lines from http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/nodestatus.html phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 08:16:37PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In einer eMail vom Fr, 23. Apr. 2004 5:45 MEZ schreibt Galen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How usable is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. Thanks, ? ?Galen Currently I am running freenet on an old P2 linux box permanently. The memory is limited to 100mb, but as long as I do not use the fproxy interface too much I can run a freenet node for more then 2 days. (at least that was the case around one week ago.) The CPU usage is also ok, I am not experiencing any problems which could be caused from an overloaded CPU. The linux computer is behind a NAT router with port forwarding set and has a extremly limited upload bandwith (7kb/s) and a more moderatly set download bandwith (40kb/s right now thinking of limiting to 20kb/s) because this way I am able to use the internet for other things while running the freenet node the whole time. (the bandwith limits are set in the config of the node - higher set upload bandwith caused the whole internet access to be blocked sometimes - using DSL). Currently the node gets around 1500 request/hour and finishes around 4% (thats changing often, this is a better value) of them. The node has a datastore of 25GB, which is completly used. Data seems to last around 3 months in it(unaccessed), but that will depend on how much I download. If I download not so much data it will last longer. Currently I am having problems with RNFs despite more then 100 connections and a routing table of ~400 nodes (~300 node references), but data finding is not bad as soon as a request can be made. (The popular dbr sites can be fetched most of the time, only near the rollover time I have sometimes problems which seems logical.) To the usage: I am runing a second computer permanently for fuqid and frost, but I use only a small amount of threads for requests. (normally around 20 threads together) Woah. So as you see it is really possible to use freenet with DSL and NAT. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:53, Toad wrote: I assume you are using the stable branch? What build? Have you upgraded to 5077? And please show me the top few lines from http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/nodestatus.html I'm running 5076. What's new in 5077? Number of node references 32 Attempted to contact node references 29 Contacted node references 26 Connections with Successful Transfers 20 Backed off nodes 21 Connection Attempts 11520 Successful Connections 8522 Lowest max estimated search time 0ms Lowest max estimated DNF time 0ms Lowest global search time estimate 38402ms Highest global search time estimate 69109ms Lowest global transfer rate estimate 4,441 bytes/second Highest global transfer rate estimate 7,402 bytes/second Lowest one hop probability of DNF 0.96 Highest one hop probability of DNF 0.97 Lowest one hop probability of transfer failure 0.2 Highest one hop probability of transfer failure 0.24 Single hop probability of QueryRejected 0.12835881455029807 Single hop average time for QueryRejected 2074.4689388858346 Single hop probability of early timeout 0.4004490720707994 Single hop average time for early timeout 17750.161157313287 Single hop probability of search timeout 0.0932319037183529 Single hop average time for search timeout 86773.46966283562 Single hop overall probability of DNF given no timeout 0.9745008553493326 Single hop overall probability of transfer failure given transfer 0.04399358870116013 Total number of requests that didn't QR 9891 Total number of reqests that timed out before a QR or Accepted 3706 Implementation freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:20:41AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:53, Toad wrote: I assume you are using the stable branch? What build? Have you upgraded to 5077? And please show me the top few lines from http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/nodestatus.html I'm running 5076. What's new in 5077? A very very long list of changes - some very important bugfixes, some fairly major architectural changes (now the routing table is larger than the connected nodes rather than being smaller - this should definitely help you...), etc etc. I announced it a few days ago. Number of node references 32 That's bad. What's your rtMaxNodes set to? Are you running some crippled operating system that forces us to limit it unnecessarily e.g. Windows 98? Attempted to contact node references 29 Fair enough. Contacted node references 26 Ditto. Connections with Successful Transfers 20 Ditto. Backed off nodes 21 Not unexpected. You need more connections. Upgrading to 5077 is probably going to help you significantly. Connection Attempts 11520 Successful Connections 8522 Lowest max estimated search time 0ms Curious. Lowest max estimated DNF time 0ms Very curious. Lowest global search time estimate 38402ms Highest global search time estimate 69109ms Lowest global transfer rate estimate 4,441 bytes/second Highest global transfer rate estimate 7,402 bytes/second All 4 of these are reasonable. Lowest one hop probability of DNF 0.96 Highest one hop probability of DNF 0.97 These are depressing. Upgrade to 5077. Lowest one hop probability of transfer failure 0.2 Highest one hop probability of transfer failure 0.24 Not too good... Single hop probability of QueryRejected 0.12835881455029807 Single hop average time for QueryRejected 2074.4689388858346 Single hop probability of early timeout 0.4004490720707994 Single hop average time for early timeout 17750.161157313287 Single hop probability of search timeout 0.0932319037183529 Single hop average time for search timeout 86773.46966283562 Single hop overall probability of DNF given no timeout 0.9745008553493326 Single hop overall probability of transfer failure given transfer 0.04399358870116013 Total number of requests that didn't QR 9891 Total number of reqests that timed out before a QR or Accepted 3706 Implementation freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
Hm, interesting. This is the kind of thing I'd like to hear from people. C'mon, if you guys can support freenet, can't you tell me about your real-life experiences with it? And yeah, I do know how to port map, but in my situation, I'm not allowed to port map anything (yeah, i have a strange internet arrangement - I don't control the NAT box). -Galen Currently I am running freenet on an old P2 linux box permanently. The memory is limited to 100mb, but as long as I do not use the fproxy interface too much I can run a freenet node for more then 2 days. (at least that was the case around one week ago.) The CPU usage is also ok, I am not experiencing any problems which could be caused from an overloaded CPU. The linux computer is behind a NAT router with port forwarding set and has a extremly limited upload bandwith (7kb/s) and a more moderatly set download bandwith (40kb/s right now thinking of limiting to 20kb/s) because this way I am able to use the internet for other things while running the freenet node the whole time. (the bandwith limits are set in the config of the node - higher set upload bandwith caused the whole internet access to be blocked sometimes - using DSL). Currently the node gets around 1500 request/hour and finishes around 4% (thats changing often, this is a better value) of them. The node has a datastore of 25GB, which is completly used. Data seems to last around 3 months in it(unaccessed), but that will depend on how much I download. If I download not so much data it will last longer. Currently I am having problems with RNFs despite more then 100 connections and a routing table of ~400 nodes (~300 node references), but data finding is not bad as soon as a request can be made. (The popular dbr sites can be fetched most of the time, only near the rollover time I have sometimes problems which seems logical.) To the usage: I am runing a second computer permanently for fuqid and frost, but I use only a small amount of threads for requests. (normally around 20 threads together) So as you see it is really possible to use freenet with DSL and NAT. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
In einer eMail vom Fr, 23. Apr. 2004 5:45 MEZ schreibt Galen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How usable is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. Thanks, Galen Currently I am running freenet on an old P2 linux box permanently. The memory is limited to 100mb, but as long as I do not use the fproxy interface too much I can run a freenet node for more then 2 days. (at least that was the case around one week ago.) The CPU usage is also ok, I am not experiencing any problems which could be caused from an overloaded CPU. The linux computer is behind a NAT router with port forwarding set and has a extremly limited upload bandwith (7kb/s) and a more moderatly set download bandwith (40kb/s right now thinking of limiting to 20kb/s) because this way I am able to use the internet for other things while running the freenet node the whole time. (the bandwith limits are set in the config of the node - higher set upload bandwith caused the whole internet access to be blocked sometimes - using DSL). Currently the node gets around 1500 request/hour and finishes around 4% (thats changing often, this is a better value) of them. The node has a datastore of 25GB, which is completly used. Data seems to last around 3 months in it(unaccessed), but that will depend on how much I download. If I download not so much data it will last longer. Currently I am having problems with RNFs despite more then 100 connections and a routing table of ~400 nodes (~300 node references), but data finding is not bad as soon as a request can be made. (The popular dbr sites can be fetched most of the time, only near the rollover time I have sometimes problems which seems logical.) To the usage: I am runing a second computer permanently for fuqid and frost, but I use only a small amount of threads for requests. (normally around 20 threads together) So as you see it is really possible to use freenet with DSL and NAT. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How usable is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. Thanks, Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
On Friday 23 April 2004 00:45, Galen wrote: Hi Freenet People, I'd like to hear about your experience with and uses for freenet. I'm interested in those that use freenet. How usable is it? What is your setup? What kind of performance do you get? What kinds of content do you get on it? How often do you use it? I ask this as one hopelessly trapped behind NAT (well, at least for a little while longer) and not really able to sample freenet properly. I am behind NAT, but was able to forward the port, and now have 650 meg in store. My performance is terrible, so I use it rarely. I click on a link and it takes several minutes to falsely indicate that the network is down. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The Freenet Experience
I am behind NAT, but was able to forward the port, and now have 650 meg in Before anyone comments further on this, I am behind NAT without port forwarding options for right now. Lets not even go down this road... Anyways, back to our regularly scheduled Freenet comments -Galen ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
